Ask Adam Savage: My Best and Worst Models from ILM
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2022
- What does Adam consider his best and his worst model at ILM? Did he ever stumble across any legendary props in ILM's halls? Why doesn't Adam seem to laser cut as much as he used to? In this live-stream excerpt, Adam answers these questions from Silver Defender, Baldo Fraggins and Paul Jimenez, whom we thank for their support! Join this channel to support Tested and get access to perks, like asking Adam questions:
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Adam ...do your design, and then a video on using the laser to engrave the wooden nickels.
Hey you should go through the movies you made props in and breakdown what it took to make them!
Neat stories but blending in an image of the props would have been nice.
@@Thoran666 Agreed, especially since Adam has been showing us the Propstore Auction this weekend.
(Which has been Amazing!)
It's so nice hearing someone like you talk about mistakes they made in their profession. I'm a set designer for theatre and make mistakes all.the.time - most of the times small, but sometimes I mess up like you did on Ep2. And I'm always questioning if I'm even up to the task. But in the end there's always a solution for every given problem.
Well, tell us what your biggest mistake you've done were?
Just out of curiousity
I shot a pipe off a cooling tower because I connected it with a non-pressure rated fernco. lol. That was a crappy Friday. I was so embarrassed I tried to quit my job later that day.
Adam, it takes a lot of balls to tell what your biggest screw-up is. We all learn to from our mistakes and ralrely from our successes. thanks for the story.
Uh… I think you mean the opposite of hubris
Thanks, bad choice of words. Be safe
Don’t worry Adam. I remember the particle accelerator scene. I don’t remember what the entrance to the nightclub looked like. Death stick guy stole that scene.
Elan Sleazebaggano did in fact steal that scene.
@@haystack413Glup Shitto
For very long, I was thinking of "what will be the best colab between LTT and Tested", now i know, the ULTIMATE laser cutter setup. Now I have to wait for the next WAN show to suggest it.
The whole "now that you've got me thinking about this...." at the end totally hits me in the feels lol. That's how half my projects get started/restarted.
Adam,
Just consider the laser cutter and accompanied computer as another shop infrastructure build. You could even build a computer that can handle the dust in your shop. Or at least a nice cover for it, so it can live in your shop more safely.
What is your go-to CAD program?
I always love hearing your fail stories (the defcon 17 failure video is one of my favorites). Not because I'm going "oh look, adam FAIL", but because it's great to see that even a master crafter still had moments of failure that he learned from. Also get that laser cutter running, your time is too valuable to waste on manually cutting things out if you can have a machine do it for you. It doesn't make it any less crafty because it still involves designing the parts.
I can't stop thinking about Spinal Tap's Stonehenge when I hear that story.
Out of all the different visual representations you’ve had a hand in creating to help a director shape a world that best visually conveys the story being told, which one would you say you had to most autonomy or freedom to actually design and create from you own ideas (if any) and which would you say felt the most rigid, finding your work constantly unacceptable (if any)? Thank you, Adriana. 😊
When you mentioned Alan Rose's name my ears perked up. I've heard that name for years. He's was my buddy's best friend. I've heard many stories of their adventures but never heard about those books. Yes, I called my buddy and it's the same Alan. I sent him a link to this video. Thanks for mentioning him.
The easily accessible, intuitive workflow thing makes so much sense to me! Yes, computer methods might be extremely useful and accurate and all, but if it takes too long to set up, then it just FEELS more easy to get working with your hands.
As for the Ep II nightclub model, eeek! It looks amazing onscreen though, and I never would’ve guessed it was a model if I hadn’t seen the behind-the-scenes footage. Personally, I think that the CG department should always follow the model shop’s lead. Their strength is flexibility so they can make changes like that on the fly, while the model gives real-life believability and should be the foundation of the work. Never let the tail wag the dog!
I love that just as he discusses the particle accelerater he accelerates some dust particles from his desk with a breath and blow....how cinematic !
Hey Adam, here is an idea for your laser cutter computer to protect it from the shop environment, create a fabric ‘hood’ that has a folding frame such that when stowed the hood acts like a cover but when you need to use it the frame holds it out of the way. The inspiration was the sideline rig the NFL uses to allow a ref to review a play. Should work whether you use a laptop or full sized PC with a monitor. Really enjoy the videos and would love to hear more about using the laser cutter.
If all it took was asking and answering that question to give Adam an urge to almost get out of his chair, and set up his laser cutter right then and there, I wonder how much/how little pressure from his fans would it take to see him go through with it?
Interesting to hear you talk about the flow. Very insightful.
Great video. It wouldn't take much to get the PC setup so you can use your laser cutter. They truly are wonderful machines. Can't see it taking more than half a day at most to get it setup the way you want. Love the channel.
You should look into some of the industrial computer and monitor cases/ mounts/ kiosks/ etc.
If you must use a traditional physical keyboard and mouse setup.
There's lots of cool looking stuff out there made out of stainless steel, on wheels, etc.
It would probably be easier to get a tablet or tablet style computer with a tough case on it and set up a way to send the job to the cutter over the network.
Thank you for how often you share your failures as an expert. I'm in my fifties with ADHD and no professional experience in building, more often than not, I mess up projects around the house and feel so incompetent.
Great video - but my favorite part is the Scaled Composite sticker on the mill. Burt Rutan is the man, and seriously under rated among the general register of amazing people.
I like how often Adam admits "Yup, I done fucked up."
entertaining insight on your experience with a supervisor while making a mistake. Dude you make videos like it was a regular week at work. but then, the history you were apart of, and on top of that you had to have been known by everyone in the late 2000s. its just nice to hear the same stuff all of us face on our bad days. just without the cool side story of your work being part of a massively achieving movie
That particle accelerator scene WAS one of the best parts of that movie, and that Terminator movie was easily one of the best terminator movies ever made to date!
I need to rewatch, but I think you may be right @ 0:30 that, that was the best part of the movie.
Adam,
Have been watching you since the M.B. days and really enjoy your channel. We have an older aluminum sailboat, and that has us learning all sorts of things about electrolysis and galvanic series.
Would be cool if you could show a bit of the destructive effects of galvanic/electrolytic corrosion.
Your comment on the laser cutters is how I work with 3D printers. I print in batches. So, I slice a bunch of parts for a model (Usually color dependent) and print them all in order. Then it takes me time to get the motivation to slice the next set of models to slice. It's not hard. It's the tedium and time that gets me. Just have to force myself to work through it.
Please do a video on your watch collection. I am now obsessed with watches and watch making. I am constantly looking at everyone's watches.
For the rounds, get a stamp that says "TUIT". When someone says, "I'll do that when I get around to it", hand them a round TUIT, pronounced "to it".
Mr. Savage I must say I have been appreciating your work before I knew you had done so much in so many movies. Learning about some of your process in particular about the laser cutter I must say ... SQUIRREL!
love the flow
the paint rack shelves are too thin and starting to sag under the weight, might want to fix that in case it gets worse
I've recently gained access to a nice laser cutter and they are game changing.
The down side of walking all over the place in the workshop (which sometimes is inevitable). while doing a project is for me a "mind focus black hole"...sometimes I get up...and do not return until hours latter😂😂😂😂😂, BUT having everything organize and at hand I can be at the work bench for 9/10 hours straight, happy and with no problem, and the best part is getting the project done the way I envision it.
"I got the scale wrong on one axis but not the other." LOL Super funny. If you fail, fail big.
Adam, I'm a sheet metal worker turned CAD guy who's entire job is preparing things to be laser cut. I work for a company who bought one of the best cutters available. This thing cuts up to 1.5" Aluminum. I'm just now starting to experiment with my own designs. It's nice to hear your brain was prepared in a similar way as mine. My work is all about making 2d pieces into 3d work.
Better than wooden nickels. "Round-2-its"! Just print "2-it" on both sides and outline both edges with red grease pencil to emphasize the shape. My Dad wanted me to organize his garage on my days off from 12 hour shifts. I did one day while he did other stuff. Nowhere to be found to confer with him as to where he wanted SPECIFIC items or tools. Naturally when he arrived the complaints started. So, I asked why he hadn't attempted the task himself. "I just haven't gotten around to it." He replied. I nodded. So, I then grabbed a 12 inch piece of 1.5 inch wooden dowel approximatell 1/8 thick, and wrote "2-it" in black grease pencil, both sides. And outlined it in red, both sides. I flipped it across the garage to him. He caught it. "Now you have." Turned and left. SATISFYING. 😌
There have been a some suggestions about handling dust for a desktop type PC. I'd always recommend a prebuilt rugged laptop if that'd be fit for purpose. Most of the major companies produce at least one model, and you can typically check out their MIL-STD 810G&H testing results regarding dust intrusion etc.
It was similar for me when I first got my 3d printer actually, the process of unplugging the sd, getting an adapter, plugging it in the computer, saving the gcode, and putting it back in the printer kinda put me off actually printing things
But once I got OctoPi set up and can do it all remotely, I use it WAY more often, dunno if a Raspberry Pi would be enough to handle a laser cutter server, I've never worked with one, but it could be an idea
Yeah, I was thinking that instead of an always-on dedicated CAD machine, having a server he could use from his laptop (wherever it happens to be) would be better, but I don't even know if that's a tenable kind of thing in laser-cutter land. (and yes, I'm the guy who asked the question)
Thanks for sharing your screw-up. That's the kind of thing a person feels in their psyche for the rest of their days (and probably learns a hell of a lesson).
I mounted a monitor over our laser cutter with a tiny Intel compute stick in the HDMI port and since the cutter is just a posh printer it became super easy to just go draw and cut something quickly. Kept a wireless keyboard and mouse up on top of it and it didn’t get in the way.
We just used our laser to make a rubber stamp at the library. I'd be happy to make one for you and send it over. Over the pandemic a patron donated a bunch of vintage handles as well.
Adam! You can use a laser cutter to make that rubber stamp!!!
I would love to see some images of this being spliced into the video.
For copyright reasons, we have been avoiding that, having gotten burned in the past. But we may reconsider soon.
@@tested Thank you! It doesn't have to be from the movie or anything either. Just some behind the scenes images with Adam would be the absolute best if available :D
That paint bottle holder shows the issues with plywood, at any scale, it sags. You might want to add an 1/8th inch gusset under each side of each shelf holding the paints. I guess the weight of those adds up.
Don't worry, the model was far from the worst part of Episode 2.
I hate sand.
He speaks the truth!
And yet, it's still not the worst Star Wars movie.
That entire movie is coarse and irritating
@@anon_y_mousse Yeah…episode 8 is so much worse!
Ep9 has at least one excuse, being, that it is the movie, that somehow had to clean up the mess, that was left from ep 8!
Ep8 has no excuse!
7 may rode the nostalgia train way too hard, but at least it did not set fire to everything the previous movies tried to achieve.
It is possible to add a PC to your workflow. You can get cables long enough to have your PC in a clean room and pipe the I/O to a spot in your shop.
Linus Tech Tips has tons of videos that cover this. It would be a great collaboration too I think.
Btw. The best thing you made was when you and Hyneman did the set to the highway chase in Matrix 2.
That was one of the all time best chase scenes ever.
They did that?!
@@BrentWalker999 +1 Did they?
You could set up a pc in such a way that it loads every program you need on startup. If you suspect you may need a laser cutter for a build, you just press a button and when you finally get to it, it's ready to go
Those cut-out blanks should be Round To-Its!
“I do have a PC in there that’s not being used”.
Yep. That’s it. Can’t unregister that thought now. In fact, dang it, now you’ve made me think “I have this unused PC in there” that I can actually use in my workflow. Grrrr
It's great that you own your mistakes, I do hope though that your supervisor recognised that they made their own mistake by not picking it up, given they were your supervisor.
You can individually learn a lesson about an extra check you can put it in your process to prevent repeating the same error, but that learning leaves with you. The great organisations don't blame individuals when these things happen, they fix the gap in the process so that future employees aren't having to make the mistake themselves in order to learn from it.
For Laser cnc try Lightburn software.
If your machine is supported give it a try. It's brilliant and easy to use.
Most importantly it's all in one, from project creation to cnc execution.
I have tried almost all different programs for laser cnc and most of them are clunky
and if you have low power diode laser they will make it almost unusable for anything with how unoptimized the cut/engrave is.
With various settings in LB I can optimize the project so much that it will reduce the time needed by minutes.
The old Stonehenge from This Is Spinal Tap fail. Happens to the best of us.
It's a pity they didn't give you that model. As you say in your ad for the patches, mistakes are integral to making, even when you're on the clock.
As far as not wanting to move away from your workspace, I get it. It breaks your brain to have to change your landscape for a project in the middle of making the thing. Maybe a "painting booth" that's just a 3x3 plastic enclosure for your laptop to sit on a podium, set the whole thing on casters as well?
We have something in common. You built a particle accelerator model for a movie. I made the target plates for the LHC. You should do more mill work. I could have made that paint storage thing in half an hour on the mill. Stacked the sheets with the holes to do them all at once. Into a vice on the mill keeps the holes in line so there's no time wasted lining up a hand drill on each one. Then turn the feed handle to locate each hole on the digital. Done. Consistent identical parts. If you have the mind to go from 2d to 3d you are a mill man. We are a higher level of machinist than a mere lathe man. Any mill man can operate a lathe. But I know many lathe operators that cannot do mills. Mill men are real machinists. We do everything. In sorcery the highest level of sorcerer is a smith. Literally a blacksmith. Using invisible forces to make objects of great power like swords, shields, cavalry, etc. Since I made the heart of the largest, most expensive, and most powerful machine ever built (not the only magic I do) I am the most powerful sorcerer in the world. That's all certified. My worst mistake was when the boss jiggled my elbow about an issue lining up a cylinder of PVHO (pressurized vehicle human occupancy) plastic for hyperbaric chambers used in speeding healing burn victims. Same thing we made Atlantis resorts, and tourist submarines out of. We had discussed the line up issue when we got the job, and he had was ok with the solution. I had made several of these cylinders over a couple of years, and they all made spec. But the boss forgot we had solved the issue, and dragged it up again. Took some explaining to remind him of the discussion, and solution. Problem was he interrupted me just as I was installing the cutting tool to make the final chamfer cut. Result was I forgot I had not yet tightened the tool. As the cut began the tool slipped out enough to cut it 1/16" under spec before I stopped it. $12,000 part. Never got another to do, and it sat on the machine for months while the engineers tried to figure out how to salvage it. Then it sat on the shop floor for a long time till the economy of the early '90s put us on 3 day weeks, and I quit to find more work.
Nice Video adam sir. And congratulations you 6.3m subscribers sir.
Adam should get a Toughbook for the laser cutter.
😉
Adam, you need to build a vaccum chamber for a laptop and make a 3d printed keyboard for the outside, so its easy clean up on the outside.
Here is an idea for the computer in the workshop getting dusty problem. Build a custom case with oversize filters to provide plenty of airflow and keep the dust out. If you use a regular computer instead of a laptop, the monitor could be mounted on the lid so it folded down with it and the whole thing could be made like a suitcase. If you use a APU instead of a CPU you could keep it relatively low profile. Now I wish I had a workshop... And money... So I could do that myself.
I Liked and subbed and I enjoythevid of rust remover you made three years ago. 🤗
You could make custom Tested poker chips out of those cut outs!
These episodes would be alot better if when your talking about something, we get a quick picture up on screen so we can see what you are talking about! Just an idea
Laser cutters are nice, but I really want to get a desktop 60W Mopa Fiber Laser some day. However, they are like $6,000+ even for the cheap Chinese versions (which admittedly are good) and I can't afford to spend that kind of money on a tool right now. But there are SOOO many things you can do with one of those.
Print tuit on the rounds and when some says they “ just haven’t gotten a round to it “ hand them a round tuit ! Ok so I’m old and so is that, but I like it
Could definitely use a nuc computer and a monitor on an articulated wall mount so you can have it high and angled down so you don't have dust collecting on the screen itself and the PC doesn't have fans so dust doesn't matter, not super powerful but more than enough to print to the laser cutter, then you'd only need a mouse/keyboard, I've seen some keyboards that have no gaps between the keys and a joystick type mouse so dust doesn't matter at all. Or possibly a new Lazer cutter that has it all built in?
Adam, stick the computer somewhere else so it's safe from dust, then just run cables to a basic monitor, mouse, and keyboard setup right by your laser cutter. Doesn't even need to be a high-end PC if all it needs to run is basic CAD.
There are industrial computers that laugh in the face of dust...you can teamview into your main Pc if you have to.
You also could one-day-built one yourself, get components that are passively cooled so they don't need any air from the outside and built an airtight box to put it in.
Getting the inside scoop on Adam's ADHD and how he uses it to excel in life is inspirational.
While wooden nickles are great those would also make for some great "A Round Tu-it". As in I'll finish this project when I get "around to it".
Yup, a favorite stocking stuffer!
This is first time I heard that laser story :D
I'd blame it on the death-sticks.
That Episode Two story sounds like it came right out of Spinal Tap.
5:00-5:04 is what I'm like
7:06-7:07 is what I should do but not in the habit yet 😅
Question though - I completely understand that you're on the hook for the build and missing the measurement, but I'm also curious where it lands on your Supervisor for missing your mistake? Clearly not the stance you want to take when it was your fault and yes what a learning experience to have. Failures can always equal opportunities to learn and grow.
it's more and more possible to keep a computer setup and online power efficiently now days, don't give up on your laser cutter, you could pair it with one of the many great single board pc's that consume mere watts of power
use elctro etching to make your stamps to stamp your wooden nickels.
I have a question! How do you clean your cave and how often? I mean there must be tons of dust and stuff all around
If the laser cutter software would run on an Ipad, no dust ingress and a magic keyboard in a sleeve to keep dust out. Two items on a stand.
May I suggest that wooden nickels have two sides and that if one side is a rubber stamp then the other side should be BRANDED. A bit more involved but would really polish the result
I'm not connected to the company, but lightburn is the best software for making the work flow of using the laser so easy. I would like to add its tested's fault I now own a laser and can say this.
I want to ask this. Did the mythbuster crew members stop working on movie sets when the show became priority. How many movie memories do you think you missed out on by entering the TV series. and what shows do you think you may have been a part of if life at ILM had continued its course
Hmmm, like doing Stonehenge for Spinal Tap eh? 😉
i also have a 150 watt laser. great tool. but not the ONE tool. Great tool but not the end all.
Keep a cover over your computer in the shop. It's easy to remove and easy to replace
You did a Stonehenge!
Adam how do you make a rounded windshield for models? I’m working on the vehicle Mon Mothma uses from Andor. It has rounded glass.
I was thinking about printing it out on my 3-D printer and then using that as a mold, and putting some type of acrylic over it
I see a perfect one day build "shop based PC storage with filters to keep the PC clean + a screen on an arm"
I would like to know what your worst model was that made it into the movie without further change.
Get a panasonic toughbook. Great shop computer.
@0:45… there was a night club in Terminator 2? 😂
Skip the wooden nickels. Those need to be stamped as TUITs. You put the letters TUIT on one side. Then whenever someone says "I'll do that when I get around to it," you give them a round TUIT.
Pc with passive cooling… no fan parts, dust isn’t a issue
Buy a Panasonic Toughbook Adam, when it gets dusty, stick it under the tap.
Bag of "Tested Round TUITs"
Do I need to explain that? Nah, not in this crowd.
Laser cutter?
*_William Osman has entered the chat_*
For the laser cutter, could you put a PC in a box with positive air pressure inside, to keep dust from getting in? Or would the filters needed for that be inadequate in the shop?
The part of me that likes overly complex nonsense wants to put a glove box on it, to access the interface. But really you could just open it up to use it, or put a semi-expendible USB keyboard and mouse on the outside.
@cathodeRayDude recently located a tape from Project Beret. do you know anything about that one?
Need a linus tech tips computer install to set up a laser cutter remote rig
I appreciate the wooden nickels, but I think that looks more like a bag of round tuits. No more excuses!
I see a one day build for a dust cover for your computer inside the shop.