Guyversity would be a great send up of 'Diversity'. Have a group of men in their 40s performing stunts/back flips/break dancing without injuring themselves 😂
Honestly, the premise of the gag is pretty good but the ability to drag it out to nearly 20 minutes without just repeating things over and over shows talent.
What ever happened to people being outraged about overpriced skins and pay to win mechanics? Can we go back to that? Ya know, shit that is an ACTUAL issue?
To elaborate, I mean I think people getting upset over pronouns in video games is fucking stupid. The pronouns can't hurt you. This is like when people acted like being gay was a disease that you could catch 🙄
That's the legacy of electing a certain someone in 2016. That certain someone opened the floodgates of fake issues and bigotry. The enormous waves it released reached every place on the planet and some places got permanently damaged. Can we go back? I wish we could.
this feels the same as when Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg pointed out that her dream of nine women on the supreme court was weird but no one bats an eye at the fact that there was basically always 9 men
I saw one of these outrage addict fake nerds complain that the Metal Gear Solid remake looked like it was going to be political. Really. Can you imagine? A political version of Metal Gear. What's next Bioshock?
Now, to be fair, my historic best memories of Metal Gear Solid are roaming around the forest in a crocodile mask, and stabbing and immediately eating animals with the fork. That's not a political memory
I liked the Dunkey review where he said it’s the first game for people with memory issues since your companions continually remind you of what quest you’re doing or have just done.
What really shits me about the people calling the new Dragon Age game "WOKE" is that... it's nothing new. BioWare literally had gay romance going as far back as _Knights of the Old Republic,_ to the point it was a massive controversy when Mass Effect 1 let you date an asari on Fox News. And, since then, you've had people calling the series going "SJW" when Inquisition had a minor trans character in as an NPC for five seconds. And yet you have these so called "gamers" go on about how they "loved the old BioWare," ignoring that BioWare has _always_ been this progressive. It's really fucking funny and also sad to see these Nerdzis twist over themselves to justify their own bigoted hatred and desire for conservative status quo and then praise KotoR1 and Mass Effect 2 as "non-woke". It really shows them as they are: they aren't BioWare fans, they're outrage tourists who don't even pay attention to the game they complain about. And that's a shame, because while IMHO The Veilguard is very much a step in the right direction, there are legitimate reasons to critique it that are drowned out by the Nerdzis flipping out about the fact the game lets you say outright you're trans if you want to. And that's the thing: _if you want to._ It's an _option._ And to these people, the very _existence_ of trans people as an option is a step too far, because to them, there's only two genders: "male" or "political".
that actually sounds kinda nice. i'll often spend like 30 hours on an RPG before life makes it impossible to play for a few months and then i just cant come back to it cause i've forgotten what i was doing
The part of the Veilguard discourse that really annoys me is that it makes it hard for those of us who have actual complaints about the plot (like killing off my favorite character and pretending they didn't so they can have an ~Oooh, he was dead all along~ twist) to talk about it publicly without some Gamer(tm) trying to complain that the problem is really how woke the series is "now", comically unaware that in Dragon Age 2 the only straight party member was DLC and also sucked
Yeah, it's always the worst when the people who are actually upset about queer and/or PoC representation pretend to actually be concerned about a small set of talking points some video told them to bring up ad nauseam, since that muddies the water with both bad-faith arguments and plain disinformation. But then, poisoning the discourse is the entire point for them.
This has been an issue for over a decade at this pt, its y outrage tourists r the actual Fake gamers, they make it impossible to just talk abt The Game... idk if they still claim thats actually what they want like they did a decade ago but at this point the idea is openly laughable
Just as annoying as criticism about the game in terms of gameplay, writing, enemy design, art style, characters being deflected by the usual "racists, sexists, transphobe" remarks.
The irony of "loving" Wukong after years and years of sinophobia because they couldn't get a haircut for a bit (for the few that have hair) is not lost on me.
Ngl, while I try to generally treat transphobes as ignorant first, vindictive second, and will try to have an actual conversation with them….sometimes it does feel good to just laugh at the snowflakes whining about snowflakes.
Poe's Law: Without a clear indicator of the author's intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.
Privileged people rarely have self reflection when they are made to feel even a fraction of what they inflict on others. It only fills them with fear that some day the under-privileged will do to them what they do to everyone else.
That's the thing though, she's really NOT being more ridiculous than them, she's just saying the quiet part that they are implying with what they say, and then reversing it.
What really shits me about the people calling the new Dragon Age game "WOKE" is that... it's nothing new. BioWare literally had gay romance going as far back as _Knights of the Old Republic,_ to the point it was a massive controversy when Mass Effect 1 let you date an asari on Fox News. And, since then, you've had people calling the series going "SJW" when Inquisition had a minor trans character in as an NPC for five seconds. And yet you have these so called "gamers" go on about how they "loved the old BioWare," ignoring that BioWare has _always_ been this progressive. It's really fucking funny and also sad to see these Nerdzis twist over themselves to justify their own bigoted hatred and desire for conservative status quo and then praise KotoR1 and Mass Effect 2 as "non-woke". It really shows them as they are: they aren't BioWare fans, they're outrage tourists who don't even pay attention to the game they complain about. And that's a shame, because while IMHO The Veilguard is very much a step in the right direction, there are legitimate reasons to critique it that are drowned out by the Nerdzis flipping out about the fact the game lets you say outright you're trans if you want to. And that's the thing: _if you want to._ It's an _option._ And to these people, the very _existence_ of trans people as an option is a step too far, because to them, there's only two genders: "male" or "political".
I think my favorite part about that comment is that in many cases that could be true. Like if you played DA:I at 10 you'd literally have been a fan for half of your own life.
Personally, i'm tired of seeing high fades, and dreads in fantasy worlds. You either look like a hipster, or an athlete with these terrible hair options. More modern day cuts than actual medieval ones.
Speaking as a cis white hetro male, I've found the character of Tassh to be immensely endearing as they figure themselves out. It's genuinely feels meaningful to me to be a supportive influence on their journey and character development. It's an experience I haven't had the opportunity to partake in before in my life and as such It's rewarding my curiosity and deepening my emphaty. Not just for this fictional character, but actual real people in the real world I can't fully relate to, but whish I was better at understanding in general. And that's in spite of me finding the dialog in this game flat and uninspired. But for all the flaws this game has, it has made me quite appreciative of the inclusion of this one character and their journey.
"How dare a fantasy setting use modern English instead of... um... shut up!" Literally zero fantasy fiction, whether it be games, movies, or books, has ever used anything even vaguely resembling the actual languages used by medieval people. Exactly no one who has ever made this complaint could understand them if they did. They all, without exception, use modern language with modern grammar and syntax, and yes, modern idioms. Yes, even Tolkien.
And those same people were probably Game of Thrones fans back then, not realizing how anachronistic the dialogues sounded to people who had read the books.
@@bencoomer2000 it's in a mix of French and a first nations language but outside subtitles Tchia is that, fully modern setting with some cool magic. if you can't read subtitles like me then you're only understanding gestures. the game also lets you be a flying coconut then eat the coconut on landing to regain spirit energy.
I haven't seen one complaint that the writing uses "modern" English. I have however seen many complaints that the writing tone is far removed from the previous DA games. Are you perhaps confusing the two together?
@albert2006xp I feel like there are too many and the game is too long given than you are specifically intended to play it multiple times for different endings. It would be the right length otherwise. But I should say, this is only a light criticism, game is excellent and I recommend it.
@@mitrovarr Meh I wouldn't say you have to play it for multiple endings. Lots of games have NG+, doesn't mean you need to force yourself to play it twice in a row or more. That'll be there when I feel like playing it again after some time passed. Longer game is also more game, thus better. Wish it was 100 hours if you ask me.
It's so wild to me that these people suggest Bioware has just now "gone woke." They clearly haven't played any Bioware games if they think queer representation is new for Dragon Age.
@@nick5661 fun fact about that, star trek was literally created as a response to one of Roddenberry's legal drama episodes being refused to be aired by the network because it dealt with racism and the network didn't want to "antagonize the south."
That's exactly the point. Damn near every outrage is about some sudden recent change, followed by people who know what they're talking about clowning on those chuds for being so ignorant of the thing they're complaining about.
Just fantastic. Absolutely brilliant video Steph! Thank God for you! 👏 And yeah, it is sad (distressing really) that 99% of the crowd this video is talking about will never change/stop. Because that requires bravery, facing one's own awful choices and the consequences they've wrought.
Quite possibly the best video you've done in a while Steph. These idiots are giving us cishet blokes a bad name, and this take on the issue perfectly outlines how unbelievable their arguments are against outside of their own cishet groups.
I'm starting to wonder if the co-editor (Zilla) is putting on a voice/persona or if they're actually like that. I kinda wish it's the latter, because it's a cool voice! Also yay, Laura! She's doing great work for accessibility and is really kind in general.
it was very funny and pretty enlightening to hear you flip the script like this. i hadn't even considered how incredibly hateful the motivation behind their objection to the regular terminology was
As someone who is in the "needs a more in-universe term" camp, I agree that was a very enlightening take. I'm still not entirely convince, the term non-binary still feels very modern for the setting to me, but I can see how that can be taken as more hurtful than I innately expected.
@@spiderlily723 Tiffany! It's The Tiffany Problem, where some modern sounding names are actually historically accurate because they are older than people think. Also goes beyond names to other things, for example something akin to modern hoodies has been worn since at least the 18th century.
@@orcmcc As an enby myself i never cared much for the term either, and I'd love a replacement in real life. It's weird to determine yourself with something you're not, right? Like, children aren't usually called non-adults. I find it a bit othering and I wish another term would catch on.
The biggest problem with the misgendering scene is just that the writing is terrible. Suggesting it's better for people to do 10 press-ups than to just apologise for their mistake is stupid. I'm almost certain that if i attempted that scene in front of most trans perople they would not appreciate it in the slightest and would just think i was mocking them.
Yeah, that scene would have been stupid regardless of what the push-ups were supposed to be an apology for. Also, I'm not really sure why the devs decided to feature a scene where Taash (the NB character) specifically goes out of their way to spitefully ignore Emmerich's pleas to call him by his actual name. I feel like that muddies the waters unnecessarily.
Yeah the writing is horrible and it makes Taash and through them all NB people look bad in the eyes of the player. But when I point it out I'm getting called a transphobe.
Oh yes, let's keep talking over and over about a short scene in a 50+ hours game and make it sound like it's like this for the entire playthrough. Let's also pretend that because one NPC says something it is the perfectly unaltered opinion of the devs and they'd say the exact same thing in real life.
@@kathleendelcourt8136Tash is poorly voiced and written throughout that 50 hour playthrough. Those are just the most extreme examples - and they deserve to be paraded around as a shining example of how not to write an enby in a medieval fantasy world.
@@kathleendelcourt8136 Literally no one *here* said any of that. That scene sucks, because it gives those Nazis a thing to point to that is bad that normies will agree is bad.
Not related to the comment, but what really shits me about the people calling the new Dragon Age game "WOKE" is that... it's nothing new. BioWare literally had gay romance going as far back as _Knights of the Old Republic,_ to the point it was a massive controversy when Mass Effect 1 let you date an asari on Fox News. And, since then, you've had people calling the series going "SJW" when Inquisition had a minor trans character in as an NPC for five seconds. And yet you have these so called "gamers" go on about how they "loved the old BioWare," ignoring that BioWare has _always_ been this progressive. It's really fucking funny and also sad to see these Nerdzis twist over themselves to justify their own bigoted hatred and desire for conservative status quo and then praise KotoR1 and Mass Effect 2 as "non-woke". It really shows them as they are: they aren't BioWare fans, they're outrage tourists who don't even pay attention to the game they complain about. And that's a shame, because while IMHO The Veilguard is very much a step in the right direction, there are legitimate reasons to critique it that are drowned out by the Nerdzis flipping out about the fact the game lets you say outright you're trans if you want to. And that's the thing: _if you want to._ It's an _option._ And to these people, the very _existence_ of trans people as an option is a step too far, because to them, there's only two genders: "male" or "political".
After Bioware already survived the failure that was Anthem, I feel EA might be intentionally keeping the studio alive just to contradict the reputation. They'll probably keep reorganizing the studio untill it bares no resemblance to it's original sefl, but the name Bioware might just have too much brand value to discard.
As a cis het man, this is fucking hilarious. The childish outrage over enby/trans folk in this game has been endlessly entertaining to watch. No idea why anyone even cares. If they don't like the game, they should just not buy it like normal people. If representation turns out to be unpopular, entertainment companies will just stop doing it because its not profitable. Unless... It actually is profitable...?
No, but you don't understand. As another cis het man, what if I misclick during character creation and pick something else than myself? Ever thought about that? That would obliterate me.
Are you saying you enjoy how the game parades minorities on the stage like circus animals, as if purposefully making them easy targets for bigots while also pushing anyone who is on the fence all the way back to the madness?
@@Idziemel1 Even worse, you could make a cis-man as all the gods intended, and accidentally flirt with another male character to no consequence at all!
Veilguard is selling sooo poorly. It's currently #3 top seller on steam, behind the Steamdeck and Black Ops 6. I don't know how Bioware is going to stay above water as the third top seller on the largest platform.
We don't really know how well it's selling. Remember, that this is EA we are talking about and the game was in development for a long time. The game could sell a million copies, but still be considered a commercial failure by EA
The entertainment industry has been living of conservative tears for decades. When they cry their eyes off because "rock music is satanic", "movies too prngraphic", "games too violent", "everything too 'woke'", creators and artists double down on it waiting for the next conservative outburst. It's great marketing.
Yeah, but decades in the past, entertainment really tried to break taboos. Now it's mostly, as the video alludes to, crazy people with absolutely no memory getting enraged in a time loop. We had this discussions with any new Bioware games for 15 years or longer by now.
Well, game development studios need those conservatives to buy their games because their liberal fan base doesn't have any money. This is why these games are financial failures.
Nobody was complaining about diversity back then. But now, a lot of people are seeing problems with the new wave of it. Maybe it's because it's being done in a new way which is inferior to the old? Maybe gamers *don't* hate the LGBT? Maybe a lot of the people who don't like this stuff are LGBT themselves and want to pull their hair out in bloody clumps when they're accused of bigotry for daring to express their concerns about identitarian zealotry?
@@bluester7177 Ah yeah they did say going into a metaing am non binary cause that is what its always been inside there game, no they were not shuved into peoples face it was sutle, it was done with class not this garbage
@@bluester7177They weren't woke. They just had gay characters. They had gender-non-conforming characters. They displayed women as being just as capable as men. They were anti-racist. We didn't complain then because there was nothing to complain about. Something is different now, and to try and claim otherwise is tantamount to gaslighting. You don't know me. Whatever mental picture you have of me, whatever you assume my beliefs, lifestyle and politics are, you're almost certainly wrong in that assessment. I urge you to keep that in mind.
Let's be fair, the game just isn't that great. Take out all the stuff these people want to point at for the reason it's bad and it'd still wouldn't be good.
@@BriBCG This. It's an objective step down from the previous title, and years behind the older titles that made DA what it is. The rest is just outrage from both sides of political debate, hijacking the games we would like to enjoy in peace.
@@BriBCGThat's the case for all of the recent flops. Inclusivity is just a scapegoat that chuds use to ignore why games actually fail, because the real cause of failure doesn't fit their boogieman narrative. It's why when you point out commercial success stories that also have "woke" content, they can't think of a retort other than to tell lies about how the game is actually a failure.
Straight dude here. LOVE THE VIDEO! Thumbs up. Furthermore, i'm so sick of the "UA-camr says game bad, so game bad" culture. But negatively drives views and these grifters thrive on the discourse.
It's the same people who says that only idiots believe journalists. Self proclaimed critics influencers are so much more professional an trustworthy obviously. 🤪
It clearly isn't profitable, though; the sales are terrible. For the record, I hate capitalism. And I especially hate people who are too stupid to understand that identity politics is a tool for capitalists to maintain power.
@@Snowie7826 it is profitable a lot of the times, BG3 is an example, inclusion helps profit in the sense that more people might play a game, but for years now what game companies are doing is making rushed games and chasing trends and also, using the culture war as free advertising, you get gamers angry with something, so that controversy is created, that's basically the problem.
Inclusion isn't profitable. Why is that hard to understand. The idea representation matters is asinine. DBZ didn't and doesn't have "inclusion" and it's basically more popular than Star Wars.
I’ve felt how nonsensical and aggressive the people you’re satirizing have been over the years. But you flipping the script in this way made me realize how desensitized I’ve become to it. Great work. I’ve appreciated what you do and how open you’ve been your whole career. Your saints row 4 review helped cultivate a comfort with myself I’d been struggling against most of my life. I deeply appreciate your public resilience and intensity.
Further proof these idiots don't play or understand anything about the games they claim to play is that there's one title on their list of "not woke or political" games that made me laugh out loud. That title was the original Deus Ex.
The paradox of tolerance: if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them.
I just realized how weirdly normal your intro was this week. I guessed this week would be about Veilguard the moment I learned Laura worked on it. Hope she's filtering the harassment effectively.
The funny thing is Veilgaurd had such a troubled development I didn't expect it to do well. The reactionary gamer crowd getting so mad about it probably helped get the word out about the game more than the marketing did.
That is true but only because it's had horrid marketing. Compared to Origins which had unique CG trailers with heavy metal playing on the background it was garbage.
tbh, it feels like a Ghostbusters remake situation- where the studio making it is using the chuds getting irrationally angry at it as its own form of marketing for an otherwise unremarkable product.
No I think it did good despite the many attempts to bury it but it would have done better without the interference. Too many people have bought the "terrible game" narrative.
I’ve been pleasantly surprised with the whole game. It’s been a lot of fun for me and I think it’s awesome how diverse they made the main cast. Variety always make a team look cooler imo
Veilguard's character creator is literally the best I've ever used. The three face morph thing, the different lighting to make sure your character doesn't look dumb in a cave... it's amazing. The gender/pronoun selection is clean, clear and easy, but it's telling that the rest of the innovation in the character creator is getting overshadowed by the outrage over the usual tripe.
Right? I only like the first two games very much and don't wanna play this one, but I am sneaking to my partner's copy to mess with the character creator. It's awesome.
If I mod a game like this it's almost always the character creation/appearance mods This is the first game i can think of outside dragon's dogma 1+2 that didn't have me looking for mods for it, The hair.. the lighting, the options.. amazing.
If there's something i hate to see what has become of gaming in recent years other than the greedy monetization and sterilization of creativity is how the discourse and having meaningful conversations about the qualities of games has been so thoroughly derailed and damaged by the "anti-woke" crowd whose entire identity and ideology is one gigantic paradox in accusing SBI and Western devs of forcing their ideology, politics and identities onto games and being obsessed about them in general...while doing the exact same thing without any hint of self-awareness. To put it simply they are the Johnny Somali of video game community and unfortunately will not shut up about it for one second. And you know, there are things that can be criticized in Veilguard like the character artstyle feeling weird, the over style and feel of the game having this Disney Pixar vibe to it that feels weird even though it's meant to be a dark fantasy, removing questionable moral decisions and behaviors you could make and finally writing issues where much of the game feels too sanitized and safe and doesn't really seem to tackle social issues like the previous games did where racism and bigotry against Elves are just practically gone now from what i have read. There are things that can be legitimately criticized about the game like how Skill Up did. But the issue is that so much of it is buried under the pointless culture war nonsense that has made being a gaming fan utterly miserable by people who don't love games but rather want to hate people while accusing other people of hating as well. That and being obsessed with physical appearance of women to such ridicolous degree that they pretty much objectify women.
Thank you about mentioning about them removing talk about stuff like racism and bigotry. I have been split on if I wanted to get the game or not but you made me sure I don't want it.
What gets me especially is the "bad writing" argument as if that's proof that no game should have queer characters in it. Because you know, there's never been games with a full cast of cishets that were badly written. If the heteros get to have games with terrible dialogue and bad plot lines, then it's only equality that we get queer games with terrible dialogue and bad plot lines.
I hate that they took out the persistent gore yeah it needed toned down but removing it makes me so sad. Also theirs basically no evil options. I like having an jerk playthrough and then a hero play theough in these games
@@Kagomai15 it's not in the game they don't get a drop on them anymore. Theirs is some combat gore but none of the classic dragon age awkward conversations covered in demon bits
I mean, it was strange that the entire party was always drenched in super dangerous darkspawn blood, with only two grey wardens in the team immune to it, in Origins. The lack of jerkiness I can't judge much yet, you can leave that mayor behind for the wolves.
Haven't played a Dragon Age since Origins, which I loved. It just seems like Bioware forgot what sort of games they were supposed to be making, so they don't interest me anymore. I am really pleased that at least they are trying to make as many people as possible feel included and represented. It is quite frankly bizarre that anyone would see that as a bad thing.
Inclusivity hurts no one; All the people who got mad at the little mermaid having a black woman as the main character, are great examples of how it only hurts the most sensitive, close minded people. My black friend told me how much his little nieces loved the new little mermaid, having felt represented. Anyone who complains about that stuff is quite silly and, quite frankly, have an opinion that matters very little.
Yeah, they definitely don't know how to make RPGs anymore, but the action adventure games they do make are still fun for the most part imo, Veilguard included.
Yeah, I stuck around through Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age: Inquisition, despite their habit of stripping out the more interesting mechanics from both series. I'd even go so far as to say that Dragon Age II took the series in a fun direction that would have made for a great game if EA hadn't set such a short deadline for it, while Dragon Age: Inquisition would have been better with a more _limited_ scope instead of filling the world with open-world style collectibles and filler side quests. And, honestly, I probably would have been pretty excited for The Veilguard/Dreadwolf if it had released half a decade ago instead of BioWarEA constantly forcing the team to help out with other projects. It looks really cool. The character creator looks like the best they've ever produced. But I'm out of the enthusiasm I used to have.
I'll third it, but this tribalism would make even Trump proud of the loyalty to fiends over criticizing a clearly deficient title that would have been ripped apart on this channel 10-15 years ago.
Okay the sarcasm *oozing* from every swcond of this video has me chuckling. It would be absolutely hilarious if it wasnt for people unironically trying to argue like this in public discourse. Every. Fucking. Time.
Veilguard is truly shameful. I spent several hours making a trans masc xaddy to play as and stare longingly at and being angry about, only to find that the game's only going to bring up his transness like once in six hours - and they even had a little content warning so that I wouldn't be upset by the choice I might make! Disgusting.
this is really disappointing :( :( I am definitely going to avoid this game that I only heard about a few days ago now, when I otherwise would have bought 3 copies and played it for years
@@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll - Unjoking for a moment : I think something that really upsets these guys is that the market for gaming is pretty close to "one man, one vote", because the expected number of sales of any game to any given consumer is either One or Zero. So it's a lot harder for someone to wield more influence just by having more money or being angrier or considering themselves The True Fans or whatever. So the maximum number of sales that anyone can threaten to withhold is... One. This is why so much of the grift is focused on spreading as many lies as possible and establishing a narrative that This Is The Bad Game - to try to deter anyone from bothering to find out why they might like the game themselves or not. Nothing offends these guys more than someone showing up in their space to tell people that they bought the game and what they do or don't like about it - because even if they say they don't like it, they're still contradicting the message that you MUSTN'T buy it.
From what I heard of the Veilguard, they've backpedalled the race war implications for Solas, got a Tevinter revanchist cult to embrace elven gods, and stuffed the party exclusively with uncontroversial do-gooders. Which is to say, the game has gone completely apolitical, abandoning the series's prior direction of being political AF. And of course the outrage merchants are angry that the game from BioWare, the people who put one of the first official lesbians in Star Wars (if not the very first) is "woke". Damn parasites are tainting pertinent criticism by association.
waaait who? was it Juhani? or is it in the mmo? it's been so long since i played kotor i remember having to install a mod so you could romance Bastila as female Revan
@@666FallenShadow Juhani. I’m not sure if she’s actually the first but she’s definitely one of the first. And I think there was a same sex romance option in BG2 but I can’t remember if they were male or female. Fallout 2 had same sex marriage for both genders so that’s probably the first.
@@Pårchmēntôs BG2 doesn't have same-sex relationships, BG2:EE introduced them, ~15 years later. BG2 did tone down some of the sexism of BG1 though (David Gaider successfully campaigned for dropping the Conanesque paperdoll designs) and there were some subtexts/teasings with the drow, but until Beamdog's additional NPCs as part of their Enhanced Editions/Siege of Dragonspear, all the romance options were straight, so I wouldn't really count that one.
im trying to remember who is not good in dragon age and the only ones i could think of is origins with Sten, Zevran, and maybe Morrigan, Dragon age 2 you could only say Anders is not good for blowing up the chantry but that about it and inquisition only solas comes to mind but that only because of veilguard and nothing else.
@@ShadowGun625 Isabela is an unapologetic pirate who set off the whole Qunari crisis, Merrill is a blood mage liable to get her entire village killed, Sera is an aimless racist troll, Blackwall is a murderer, and all of that is off the top of my head. You can lose more than just Anders in the DA2 finale if you don't have good influence because they take sides in a real deadly conflict.
The funny thing is the point will still be missed by some people. But gosh you could have warned me before subjecting us to such horror. That disclaimer at the start didn’t come close.
Even the main thing that's being criticized as far as I've seen, the scene about Bharving, is just really cringy. I'm sure plenty of people have raged about it being what stops them buying the game entirely, which is ridiculous, but it deserves to be cringed at. My interest in it was lost when I heard that it was only going to have three choices from previous games. Oh sorry, previous game. Because apparently it's only getting them from Inquisition.
Whenever a piece of media comes out which is declared as "Woke" I'm always reminded of Sarah Z vid called "Sacrificial Trash" which talks about how demonizes progressive media is when it isn't considered good. How people will hyper focus and tear a work apart for years and blame the writing on the progressive themes. Ultimately, Queer folks and PoC have every right to make mediocore games, just like Ubisoft does!
There's a difference between a game having mediocre writing and just coincidentally being progressive. And it being progressive being the cause of its bad writing. There is literally no good way to write modern gender communist propaganda into a medieval europe style fantasy setting with dwarves and elves and whatnot. Just the attempt is inherently gonna cripple your work automatically.
"guyversity" and "himclusion" would be excellent names for boy band parodies.
Guyversity would be a great send up of 'Diversity'. Have a group of men in their 40s performing stunts/back flips/break dancing without injuring themselves 😂
Manachronistic got me.
And still doesn't sound as gay as "Proud Boys".
Drag King boybands
boyversity
I'm only 2 minutes in and already cracking up at "life long fan of Dragon Age since Dragon Age Inquisition"
@@vertigoneaway He/him they/them
@@CookaSoupNieceEHFOOKIN PRONOOOOUUUNS!
it is important to note that the game did come out almost 10 years ago :p
Origins or gtfo.
@@caseyogden9268wasn’t Veilgard supposed to be out from this week on?
Hmm, 10 years ago, it makes sense.
Maybe the real Veilguards were the dragons we aged along the way.
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One of the best comments ever made on the internet XD
Honestly, the premise of the gag is pretty good but the ability to drag it out to nearly 20 minutes without just repeating things over and over shows talent.
Yeah! I'm impressed at Stephanie's endurance to keep edging that joke as far as it can possibly go!
Lots of material to parody
It also shows the absolute depth of the unhingedness of the anti-woke movement.
@@AlexDeLarge1 Yeah it's an endless and relentless stream of shite.
She broke sarcasm
What ever happened to people being outraged about overpriced skins and pay to win mechanics? Can we go back to that? Ya know, shit that is an ACTUAL issue?
To elaborate, I mean I think people getting upset over pronouns in video games is fucking stupid. The pronouns can't hurt you. This is like when people acted like being gay was a disease that you could catch 🙄
Only when it's a game they're currently outraging about...
That's the legacy of electing a certain someone in 2016. That certain someone opened the floodgates of fake issues and bigotry. The enormous waves it released reached every place on the planet and some places got permanently damaged. Can we go back? I wish we could.
Which game has pay to win mechanics? I haven't heard of any such game in recent memory. Most games nowadays are pretty good about avoiding being p2w.
Doesn't seem like culture war grifters care about actually playing a game - just if there's any minorities
I saw a man once. I immediately called the police. Thankfully the officer was a bear.
I called my beefy male Qunari character "Bear", now what?
Officer Bär saving the day.
"AAAARGH!"
Officer Bear is the police reform we need.
@@Bruced82 *Iron Bull liked this*
what us otters and cubs?
Used to be you'd get oil everywhere when stir frying vegetables, but not anymore. Because of wok.
Didn't get to finish the cool dream I was having. because of woke.
Wok? More like cok! Got em!
It's the mixed veg agenda
Nah thats Diddy fault he buyin it all up
Used to be I couldn't get the dried on stains out of clothing but not anymore. Because of soak.
Things to take away from today's episode:
1. The internet is once again being the internet.
2. Sugartush
I would have gone with sugar tits. Z-man is a true gentleman.
Unironically, trans women love it when you use really misogynistic language to refer to them. It validates their womanhood!
3. Follow Laura Kate Dale.
this feels the same as when Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg pointed out that her dream of nine women on the supreme court was weird but no one bats an eye at the fact that there was basically always 9 men
Okay, no shade to your last 18 months, but this is next level. One of your funniest in ages. Its so perfect.
I saw one of these outrage addict fake nerds complain that the Metal Gear Solid remake looked like it was going to be political. Really. Can you imagine? A political version of Metal Gear. What's next Bioshock?
Original Deus Ex remaster with all its politics, gasp!
"My god, they're turning the water wet!"
"Papers, Please is just about the satisfaction of completing paperwork. Why do you make everything out to be political?"
The joke is, they will remove politcs from MGS and put they worldview instead.
Now, to be fair, my historic best memories of Metal Gear Solid are roaming around the forest in a crocodile mask, and stabbing and immediately eating animals with the fork.
That's not a political
memory
I liked the Dunkey review where he said it’s the first game for people with memory issues since your companions continually remind you of what quest you’re doing or have just done.
As someone that has been playing it while as drunk as a sailor in port, this is a feature for me!!!😂
What really shits me about the people calling the new Dragon Age game "WOKE" is that... it's nothing new. BioWare literally had gay romance going as far back as _Knights of the Old Republic,_ to the point it was a massive controversy when Mass Effect 1 let you date an asari on Fox News. And, since then, you've had people calling the series going "SJW" when Inquisition had a minor trans character in as an NPC for five seconds. And yet you have these so called "gamers" go on about how they "loved the old BioWare," ignoring that BioWare has _always_ been this progressive.
It's really fucking funny and also sad to see these Nerdzis twist over themselves to justify their own bigoted hatred and desire for conservative status quo and then praise KotoR1 and Mass Effect 2 as "non-woke". It really shows them as they are: they aren't BioWare fans, they're outrage tourists who don't even pay attention to the game they complain about. And that's a shame, because while IMHO The Veilguard is very much a step in the right direction, there are legitimate reasons to critique it that are drowned out by the Nerdzis flipping out about the fact the game lets you say outright you're trans if you want to. And that's the thing: _if you want to._ It's an _option._ And to these people, the very _existence_ of trans people as an option is a step too far, because to them, there's only two genders: "male" or "political".
Finally a game for those with dementia
Look as someone who has a bad habit of putting down a game and forgetting to finish it for days if not weeks, this isn’t the worst thing
that actually sounds kinda nice. i'll often spend like 30 hours on an RPG before life makes it impossible to play for a few months and then i just cant come back to it cause i've forgotten what i was doing
The part of the Veilguard discourse that really annoys me is that it makes it hard for those of us who have actual complaints about the plot (like killing off my favorite character and pretending they didn't so they can have an ~Oooh, he was dead all along~ twist) to talk about it publicly without some Gamer(tm) trying to complain that the problem is really how woke the series is "now", comically unaware that in Dragon Age 2 the only straight party member was DLC and also sucked
There is a transexual in inquisition, bioware has always been like this and I'm consistently surprised that the mob keeps being surprised.
@@whitewall2253 Exactly! Like bro have you met my dear friend Krem. He's really the Krem de la creme
Yeah, it's always the worst when the people who are actually upset about queer and/or PoC representation pretend to actually be concerned about a small set of talking points some video told them to bring up ad nauseam, since that muddies the water with both bad-faith arguments and plain disinformation.
But then, poisoning the discourse is the entire point for them.
This has been an issue for over a decade at this pt, its y outrage tourists r the actual Fake gamers, they make it impossible to just talk abt The Game... idk if they still claim thats actually what they want like they did a decade ago but at this point the idea is openly laughable
Just as annoying as criticism about the game in terms of gameplay, writing, enemy design, art style, characters being deflected by the usual "racists, sexists, transphobe" remarks.
The irony of "loving" Wukong after years and years of sinophobia because they couldn't get a haircut for a bit (for the few that have hair) is not lost on me.
The best part about leaving Twitter is not having to hear about cis tantrums.
or transtrums
As someone who often uses this tactic (treat them as they treat you, just as an example, to see if they get it): I love this video.
Do they ever get it?
@@junebunchanumbers no. But it feels good.
@@DivaPWI Fair enough. Can't say fairer than that.
Ngl, while I try to generally treat transphobes as ignorant first, vindictive second, and will try to have an actual conversation with them….sometimes it does feel good to just laugh at the snowflakes whining about snowflakes.
It's about time CIS-Het men like me get some representation.
Poe's Law: Without a clear indicator of the author's intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.
@@IRGeamer I have faith in the fans of Stephanie Sterling.
Roger roger!
Don't give up. At least we still have Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast, one of the only games to feature a male protagonist.
@@Idziemel1 I LOLED tyvm
Go BLOKE go BROKE
-BACK MOUNTAIN
Privileged people rarely have self reflection when they are made to feel even a fraction of what they inflict on others. It only fills them with fear that some day the under-privileged will do to them what they do to everyone else.
That's why it's so funny when progressives get cancelled by normal people for being super weird. They never see the irony of it.
I mean they're scared of reflections because that might change their gender :D.
@@leebard9335 honey you don't have to say stupid things to talk to us, you can just ask what we think and why x
@@leebard9335 Oh yeah? Name 57 examples..
@@leebard9335 garbage isn't normal, garbage.
JSS proving that satire still isn't quite dead yet. You just gotta be MORE ridiculous than they are, and that takes skill.
That's the thing though, she's really NOT being more ridiculous than them, she's just saying the quiet part that they are implying with what they say, and then reversing it.
"I've been a longtime fan of the Dragon Age series ever since Dragon Age Inquisition..." HAHAHAHAHA I'm dying,,,,🤣🤣🤣
What really shits me about the people calling the new Dragon Age game "WOKE" is that... it's nothing new. BioWare literally had gay romance going as far back as _Knights of the Old Republic,_ to the point it was a massive controversy when Mass Effect 1 let you date an asari on Fox News. And, since then, you've had people calling the series going "SJW" when Inquisition had a minor trans character in as an NPC for five seconds. And yet you have these so called "gamers" go on about how they "loved the old BioWare," ignoring that BioWare has _always_ been this progressive.
It's really fucking funny and also sad to see these Nerdzis twist over themselves to justify their own bigoted hatred and desire for conservative status quo and then praise KotoR1 and Mass Effect 2 as "non-woke". It really shows them as they are: they aren't BioWare fans, they're outrage tourists who don't even pay attention to the game they complain about. And that's a shame, because while IMHO The Veilguard is very much a step in the right direction, there are legitimate reasons to critique it that are drowned out by the Nerdzis flipping out about the fact the game lets you say outright you're trans if you want to. And that's the thing: _if you want to._ It's an _option._ And to these people, the very _existence_ of trans people as an option is a step too far, because to them, there's only two genders: "male" or "political".
@@jatkinson85 He/him they/them
@@CookaSoupNieceEHThank you for saying your pronouns.
I think my favorite part about that comment is that in many cases that could be true. Like if you played DA:I at 10 you'd literally have been a fan for half of your own life.
I felt attacked by that comment 😂
The concept of "Straight Person Haircuts" is bloody hilarious
have you seen a straight recently? the best looking ones all have queer haircuts
Personally, i'm tired of seeing high fades, and dreads in fantasy worlds. You either look like a hipster, or an athlete with these terrible hair options. More modern day cuts than actual medieval ones.
@@jamiekjackson I'm not black, but I was under the impression that locs have been used as a protective hairstyle for a long time.
@@jamiekjackson Though fantasy worlds are not set in the medieval period, which was a time and place in the real world.
@@theshadowherself sup can a loc come up in your crib?
16:55 Sure I'm a M.A.N.
Most
Attractive
Nonbinary
why are you gae
I, on the other hand, am CIS.
Cute
In
Skirts
And I am a W.O.M.A.N
Wildly
Obviously
Most
Attractive
Non-binary
Speaking as a cis white hetro male, I've found the character of Tassh to be immensely endearing as they figure themselves out. It's genuinely feels meaningful to me to be a supportive influence on their journey and character development. It's an experience I haven't had the opportunity to partake in before in my life and as such It's rewarding my curiosity and deepening my emphaty. Not just for this fictional character, but actual real people in the real world I can't fully relate to, but whish I was better at understanding in general. And that's in spite of me finding the dialog in this game flat and uninspired. But for all the flaws this game has, it has made me quite appreciative of the inclusion of this one character and their journey.
"How dare a fantasy setting use modern English instead of... um... shut up!"
Literally zero fantasy fiction, whether it be games, movies, or books, has ever used anything even vaguely resembling the actual languages used by medieval people. Exactly no one who has ever made this complaint could understand them if they did. They all, without exception, use modern language with modern grammar and syntax, and yes, modern idioms. Yes, even Tolkien.
And those same people were probably Game of Thrones fans back then, not realizing how anachronistic the dialogues sounded to people who had read the books.
Okay. Now I want a game in their world's language, without translations at all.
"You want REALISM?!? FINE."
@@bencoomer2000 it's in a mix of French and a first nations language but outside subtitles Tchia is that, fully modern setting with some cool magic. if you can't read subtitles like me then you're only understanding gestures.
the game also lets you be a flying coconut then eat the coconut on landing to regain spirit energy.
I haven't seen one complaint that the writing uses "modern" English. I have however seen many complaints that the writing tone is far removed from the previous DA games. Are you perhaps confusing the two together?
@@mattandrews2594 because modern english evolved and settings evolve. if you want the same game play the old 1.
I think they probably jumped onto Dragon Age so quickly because their 'Silent Hill 2 remake has gone woke' claims weren't gaining traction.
I really enjoyed SH2R, by the way. And while it does have too many mannequins, I didn't feel like it diminished the experience to me.
@@mitrovarr There's the perfect amount of enemies imo. Could even do more. Otherwise it's just walking. Probably easy game of the year.
@albert2006xp I feel like there are too many and the game is too long given than you are specifically intended to play it multiple times for different endings. It would be the right length otherwise.
But I should say, this is only a light criticism, game is excellent and I recommend it.
@@mitrovarr Meh I wouldn't say you have to play it for multiple endings. Lots of games have NG+, doesn't mean you need to force yourself to play it twice in a row or more. That'll be there when I feel like playing it again after some time passed. Longer game is also more game, thus better. Wish it was 100 hours if you ask me.
AC SHADOWS , they lost there goose for the month too
It's so wild to me that these people suggest Bioware has just now "gone woke." They clearly haven't played any Bioware games if they think queer representation is new for Dragon Age.
These are the same idiots who think the new star Trek has gone woke 😐
@@nick5661 fun fact about that, star trek was literally created as a response to one of Roddenberry's legal drama episodes being refused to be aired by the network because it dealt with racism and the network didn't want to "antagonize the south."
GamersTM have turned into Jack Thompson, it's sadlarious
That's exactly the point. Damn near every outrage is about some sudden recent change, followed by people who know what they're talking about clowning on those chuds for being so ignorant of the thing they're complaining about.
Yep the problems with this game have nothing to do with gay folks, the level of discourse around this game is depressing.
"Go buy some supplements about it" should become a dismissive spell to ward off conservative grifters and their thralls
Yes, I love it.
Just fantastic. Absolutely brilliant video Steph! Thank God for you! 👏
And yeah, it is sad (distressing really) that 99% of the crowd this video is talking about will never change/stop. Because that requires bravery, facing one's own awful choices and the consequences they've wrought.
WTF
Quite possibly the best video you've done in a while Steph. These idiots are giving us cishet blokes a bad name, and this take on the issue perfectly outlines how unbelievable their arguments are against outside of their own cishet groups.
lol, imagine calling yourself "cishet" unironically. Yikes.
I'm starting to wonder if the co-editor (Zilla) is putting on a voice/persona or if they're actually like that. I kinda wish it's the latter, because it's a cool voice!
Also yay, Laura! She's doing great work for accessibility and is really kind in general.
Unfortunately, Zilla's done a video on that. While the attitude is genuine, the voice is an affectation.
@@teheqlles9036 I reject your reality, and substitute my own.
Laura is cute, also. I know that doesn't matter, but I just like pointing it out.
@@teheqlles9036 i mean, as long as they keep doing it i don't mind that they don't use it when buying a coffee or yelling at the cat
I've known Zilla for a fair couple years, when I heard him doing that voice for his Sesamarot bit on TikTok I was dying, lol, it's great
I love the extreme parody. This was Brilliant. I think I got sarcasm poisoning. I would watch again.
it was very funny and pretty enlightening to hear you flip the script like this. i hadn't even considered how incredibly hateful the motivation behind their objection to the regular terminology was
As someone who is in the "needs a more in-universe term" camp, I agree that was a very enlightening take. I'm still not entirely convince, the term non-binary still feels very modern for the setting to me, but I can see how that can be taken as more hurtful than I innately expected.
@@orcmcc Thing is, what we consider 'too moderns' is entirely subjective. What was that classical medieval name - Jennifer?
@@spiderlily723 Tiffany! It's The Tiffany Problem, where some modern sounding names are actually historically accurate because they are older than people think. Also goes beyond names to other things, for example something akin to modern hoodies has been worn since at least the 18th century.
@@spiritmuse Thanks!
@@orcmcc As an enby myself i never cared much for the term either, and I'd love a replacement in real life. It's weird to determine yourself with something you're not, right? Like, children aren't usually called non-adults. I find it a bit othering and I wish another term would catch on.
The biggest problem with the misgendering scene is just that the writing is terrible. Suggesting it's better for people to do 10 press-ups than to just apologise for their mistake is stupid.
I'm almost certain that if i attempted that scene in front of most trans perople they would not appreciate it in the slightest and would just think i was mocking them.
Yeah, that scene would have been stupid regardless of what the push-ups were supposed to be an apology for. Also, I'm not really sure why the devs decided to feature a scene where Taash (the NB character) specifically goes out of their way to spitefully ignore Emmerich's pleas to call him by his actual name. I feel like that muddies the waters unnecessarily.
Yeah the writing is horrible and it makes Taash and through them all NB people look bad in the eyes of the player. But when I point it out I'm getting called a transphobe.
Oh yes, let's keep talking over and over about a short scene in a 50+ hours game and make it sound like it's like this for the entire playthrough. Let's also pretend that because one NPC says something it is the perfectly unaltered opinion of the devs and they'd say the exact same thing in real life.
@@kathleendelcourt8136Tash is poorly voiced and written throughout that 50 hour playthrough. Those are just the most extreme examples - and they deserve to be paraded around as a shining example of how not to write an enby in a medieval fantasy world.
@@kathleendelcourt8136 Literally no one *here* said any of that. That scene sucks, because it gives those Nazis a thing to point to that is bad that normies will agree is bad.
Unfortunately the people you're parodying are not self-aware enough to get the sat-eerie.
Still, thank god for Steph.
Yes Steph, we could tell.
I don't care how stupid they are this is definitely going to make them seethe.
Too subtle for conservatives
People like that are not really conservatives, they are regressives
My stepdad was baffled that I love American Dad, because I'm a "librull"
He's a MAGA
Guy-versity and Him-clusion… I like that 😂
Edit: how am I being intolerant just because I don’t tolerate… 😂🤣
Because of..... uhhhh..... bad writing
EA hasn't killed a studio in a hot minute. Bioware must be looking quite juicy in Android Wilson's mechanical eyes.
Wilson is a vampire, not a robot.
Not related to the comment, but what really shits me about the people calling the new Dragon Age game "WOKE" is that... it's nothing new. BioWare literally had gay romance going as far back as _Knights of the Old Republic,_ to the point it was a massive controversy when Mass Effect 1 let you date an asari on Fox News. And, since then, you've had people calling the series going "SJW" when Inquisition had a minor trans character in as an NPC for five seconds. And yet you have these so called "gamers" go on about how they "loved the old BioWare," ignoring that BioWare has _always_ been this progressive.
It's really fucking funny and also sad to see these Nerdzis twist over themselves to justify their own bigoted hatred and desire for conservative status quo and then praise KotoR1 and Mass Effect 2 as "non-woke". It really shows them as they are: they aren't BioWare fans, they're outrage tourists who don't even pay attention to the game they complain about. And that's a shame, because while IMHO The Veilguard is very much a step in the right direction, there are legitimate reasons to critique it that are drowned out by the Nerdzis flipping out about the fact the game lets you say outright you're trans if you want to. And that's the thing: _if you want to._ It's an _option._ And to these people, the very _existence_ of trans people as an option is a step too far, because to them, there's only two genders: "male" or "political".
His spyware is going to activate soon and he will terminate Bioware unless he is distracted by whatever else.
@@whitewall2253unless he's a vampire robot (he doesn't need the blood, but he wants it anyway)
After Bioware already survived the failure that was Anthem, I feel EA might be intentionally keeping the studio alive just to contradict the reputation. They'll probably keep reorganizing the studio untill it bares no resemblance to it's original sefl, but the name Bioware might just have too much brand value to discard.
As a cis het man, this is fucking hilarious. The childish outrage over enby/trans folk in this game has been endlessly entertaining to watch. No idea why anyone even cares. If they don't like the game, they should just not buy it like normal people. If representation turns out to be unpopular, entertainment companies will just stop doing it because its not profitable. Unless... It actually is profitable...?
No, but you don't understand. As another cis het man, what if I misclick during character creation and pick something else than myself? Ever thought about that? That would obliterate me.
Are you saying you enjoy how the game parades minorities on the stage like circus animals, as if purposefully making them easy targets for bigots while also pushing anyone who is on the fence all the way back to the madness?
@@Idziemel1 casts dysphoria on you
@@Idziemel1 Even worse, you could make a cis-man as all the gods intended, and accidentally flirt with another male character to no consequence at all!
Not buying the game? NOOOO!! Every game should cater to MEEEE!! I'm the center of the UNIVERSE!!
Veilguard is selling sooo poorly. It's currently #3 top seller on steam, behind the Steamdeck and Black Ops 6.
I don't know how Bioware is going to stay above water as the third top seller on the largest platform.
We don't really know how well it's selling. Remember, that this is EA we are talking about and the game was in development for a long time. The game could sell a million copies, but still be considered a commercial failure by EA
Forspoken was also top seller #1 on release…
The entertainment industry has been living of conservative tears for decades. When they cry their eyes off because "rock music is satanic", "movies too prngraphic", "games too violent", "everything too 'woke'", creators and artists double down on it waiting for the next conservative outburst. It's great marketing.
Yeah, but decades in the past, entertainment really tried to break taboos. Now it's mostly, as the video alludes to, crazy people with absolutely no memory getting enraged in a time loop.
We had this discussions with any new Bioware games for 15 years or longer by now.
no
@GEMINIIMONEYx2 Yes'nt
Can you imagine the unpure thoughts my daughter might have listening to this Elvis Presley with all that hip thrusting! It’s just not right!😡
Well, game development studios need those conservatives to buy their games because their liberal fan base doesn't have any money. This is why these games are financial failures.
The funniest thing about this is how many people are mad about wokeness in DAV and want us to think they've literally ever played a BioWare game.
Nobody was complaining about diversity back then. But now, a lot of people are seeing problems with the new wave of it. Maybe it's because it's being done in a new way which is inferior to the old? Maybe gamers *don't* hate the LGBT? Maybe a lot of the people who don't like this stuff are LGBT themselves and want to pull their hair out in bloody clumps when they're accused of bigotry for daring to express their concerns about identitarian zealotry?
We have though, dummy.
@@Snowie7826 then you wouldn't be complaining about "woke", because it always has been that, and you would have probably stop playing it by now.
@@bluester7177 Ah yeah they did say going into a metaing am non binary cause that is what its always been inside there game, no they were not shuved into peoples face it was sutle, it was done with class not this garbage
@@bluester7177They weren't woke. They just had gay characters. They had gender-non-conforming characters. They displayed women as being just as capable as men. They were anti-racist. We didn't complain then because there was nothing to complain about. Something is different now, and to try and claim otherwise is tantamount to gaslighting.
You don't know me. Whatever mental picture you have of me, whatever you assume my beliefs, lifestyle and politics are, you're almost certainly wrong in that assessment. I urge you to keep that in mind.
More like Dragon Age has GONE JOKE! Because the "controversy" surrounding it IS a joke.
A so called nontroversy
As it is every single time.
As it has been for (Dragon) Ages.
Let's be fair, the game just isn't that great. Take out all the stuff these people want to point at for the reason it's bad and it'd still wouldn't be good.
@@BriBCG This. It's an objective step down from the previous title, and years behind the older titles that made DA what it is. The rest is just outrage from both sides of political debate, hijacking the games we would like to enjoy in peace.
@@BriBCGThat's the case for all of the recent flops. Inclusivity is just a scapegoat that chuds use to ignore why games actually fail, because the real cause of failure doesn't fit their boogieman narrative. It's why when you point out commercial success stories that also have "woke" content, they can't think of a retort other than to tell lies about how the game is actually a failure.
Straight dude here. LOVE THE VIDEO! Thumbs up. Furthermore, i'm so sick of the "UA-camr says game bad, so game bad" culture. But negatively drives views and these grifters thrive on the discourse.
It's the same people who says that only idiots believe journalists. Self proclaimed critics influencers are so much more professional an trustworthy obviously. 🤪
I'm playing Echoes of Wisdom and I am outraged they made Zelda a woman
To be fair, a lot of people called Link Zelda back in the NES days. Maybe they're just old folks?
Well, you should be!!
ahhh that really tickled me
"Tourist Nerdzis" is a great turn of phrase
Wild that "gamers" will loudly proclaim how capitalism good but when the market decides basic inclusion is profitable it's time to mess themselves
Yeah but those same 'gamers' mess themselves on a daily basis, so they're used to it. It's their natural state of existence.
It clearly isn't profitable, though; the sales are terrible. For the record, I hate capitalism. And I especially hate people who are too stupid to understand that identity politics is a tool for capitalists to maintain power.
@@Snowie7826 it is profitable a lot of the times, BG3 is an example, inclusion helps profit in the sense that more people might play a game, but for years now what game companies are doing is making rushed games and chasing trends and also, using the culture war as free advertising, you get gamers angry with something, so that controversy is created, that's basically the problem.
@@Snowie7826can you explain how the sales are “terrible?”
Inclusion isn't profitable. Why is that hard to understand. The idea representation matters is asinine. DBZ didn't and doesn't have "inclusion" and it's basically more popular than Star Wars.
Steph, this was exactly the sort of palette cleanser I needed around this game. Thank god for you.
how on God's green earth?
You laugh but the council of Helens has influence beyond your comprehension
I’ve felt how nonsensical and aggressive the people you’re satirizing have been over the years. But you flipping the script in this way made me realize how desensitized I’ve become to it. Great work. I’ve appreciated what you do and how open you’ve been your whole career. Your saints row 4 review helped cultivate a comfort with myself I’d been struggling against most of my life. I deeply appreciate your public resilience and intensity.
Further proof these idiots don't play or understand anything about the games they claim to play is that there's one title on their list of "not woke or political" games that made me laugh out loud. That title was the original Deus Ex.
Indeed cuz unlike what they claim they are against only specific politics not politics in general.
Demenorates was what broke me.
tea out my nose laughter.
One of several pungasms this video gifted me with. Truly inspired.
"Himclusion" 😂 I don't get round to watching much jimquisition these days but this script was a banger
Still wild that Bioware of all studios managed to survive the past decade of EA
The Montreal branch took one for the team.
*chef's kiss*. Also "Mars-Born" is way cooler than anything I've ever called myself, dang.
Holy shit Stephanie! What an amazing video!
Sad that videos like this need to be made, but this was a wild ride and brilliantly written! Thank you!
So much for the tolerant right. Dragons btw
The paradox of tolerance: if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them.
@IRGeamer are you like a bot or something?
it´s just as if they are the actual ❄ obsessed with getting anything that threatens their bubble/safespace canceled
Happy Holidays !
@@samuelvimes5770 Happy holidays ☺️
Since when did the right ever claim to be tolerant?
I just realized how weirdly normal your intro was this week. I guessed this week would be about Veilguard the moment I learned Laura worked on it. Hope she's filtering the harassment effectively.
Another W take by Stephanie. Its always refreshing to hear rational discourse among the cacophony
Panda dance makes me smile
Every single time
My favorite mythical beast is being seen.
The funny thing is Veilgaurd had such a troubled development I didn't expect it to do well. The reactionary gamer crowd getting so mad about it probably helped get the word out about the game more than the marketing did.
Actually the opposite, the beta for Monster Hunter Wild is more popular and that's a stuttering mess.
they don´t have do get angry, it´s their constant condition
That is true but only because it's had horrid marketing. Compared to Origins which had unique CG trailers with heavy metal playing on the background it was garbage.
tbh, it feels like a Ghostbusters remake situation- where the studio making it is using the chuds getting irrationally angry at it as its own form of marketing for an otherwise unremarkable product.
No I think it did good despite the many attempts to bury it but it would have done better without the interference. Too many people have bought the "terrible game" narrative.
I’ve been pleasantly surprised with the whole game. It’s been a lot of fun for me and I think it’s awesome how diverse they made the main cast. Variety always make a team look cooler imo
“And I should buy some supplements about it” lmao!
11:26 Did he call you "sugar tush"?
Goddammit I love you two working together. 😂
Veilguard's character creator is literally the best I've ever used. The three face morph thing, the different lighting to make sure your character doesn't look dumb in a cave... it's amazing. The gender/pronoun selection is clean, clear and easy, but it's telling that the rest of the innovation in the character creator is getting overshadowed by the outrage over the usual tripe.
Right? I only like the first two games very much and don't wanna play this one, but I am sneaking to my partner's copy to mess with the character creator. It's awesome.
If I mod a game like this it's almost always the character creation/appearance mods This is the first game i can think of outside dragon's dogma 1+2 that didn't have me looking for mods for it, The hair.. the lighting, the options.. amazing.
If there's something i hate to see what has become of gaming in recent years other than the greedy monetization and sterilization of creativity is how the discourse and having meaningful conversations about the qualities of games has been so thoroughly derailed and damaged by the "anti-woke" crowd whose entire identity and ideology is one gigantic paradox in accusing SBI and Western devs of forcing their ideology, politics and identities onto games and being obsessed about them in general...while doing the exact same thing without any hint of self-awareness. To put it simply they are the Johnny Somali of video game community and unfortunately will not shut up about it for one second.
And you know, there are things that can be criticized in Veilguard like the character artstyle feeling weird, the over style and feel of the game having this Disney Pixar vibe to it that feels weird even though it's meant to be a dark fantasy, removing questionable moral decisions and behaviors you could make and finally writing issues where much of the game feels too sanitized and safe and doesn't really seem to tackle social issues like the previous games did where racism and bigotry against Elves are just practically gone now from what i have read.
There are things that can be legitimately criticized about the game like how Skill Up did. But the issue is that so much of it is buried under the pointless culture war nonsense that has made being a gaming fan utterly miserable by people who don't love games but rather want to hate people while accusing other people of hating as well. That and being obsessed with physical appearance of women to such ridicolous degree that they pretty much objectify women.
Thank you about mentioning about them removing talk about stuff like racism and bigotry. I have been split on if I wanted to get the game or not but you made me sure I don't want it.
this might be the only rational thing to say about the "discussion" about this game
There is no rational discussion in videogames anymore, just picking your poison.
This video was so beautifully and hilariously cathartic
These videos are the best work Bruce Lee has done since Enter the Dragon
What gets me especially is the "bad writing" argument as if that's proof that no game should have queer characters in it. Because you know, there's never been games with a full cast of cishets that were badly written.
If the heteros get to have games with terrible dialogue and bad plot lines, then it's only equality that we get queer games with terrible dialogue and bad plot lines.
"Other bad games exist so let's make bad games". Dumbest logic I've ever read.
@@JerkandDorkNotice no one said the bad writing was actually okay.
I think they should make a good game instead of making a circle jerk simulator it's boring
@@GEMINIIMONEYx2 And said good game definitely wouldn't be a circlejerk of things you personally like.
@@Peasham yeah you don't like hot women be real
The speed at which I pressed this video! I've been waiting for this video since the "woke controversy"
This is actually an incredibly novel way of making the argument you're making, and I don't think it would work with any other channel. Bravo.
I hate that they took out the persistent gore yeah it needed toned down but removing it makes me so sad. Also theirs basically no evil options. I like having an jerk playthrough and then a hero play theough in these games
Have they really removed the persistent gore or did they just turn it off for the trailers? It's always been a toggled feature.
@@Kagomai15 it's not in the game they don't get a drop on them anymore. Theirs is some combat gore but none of the classic dragon age awkward conversations covered in demon bits
I mean, it was strange that the entire party was always drenched in super dangerous darkspawn blood, with only two grey wardens in the team immune to it, in Origins. The lack of jerkiness I can't judge much yet, you can leave that mayor behind for the wolves.
A bastion of sanity in these bloke times, thanks Steph.
Just love the use of the word "tourist" to describe these people. I've been seeing it catch on and its perfect.
Haven't played a Dragon Age since Origins, which I loved. It just seems like Bioware forgot what sort of games they were supposed to be making, so they don't interest me anymore.
I am really pleased that at least they are trying to make as many people as possible feel included and represented. It is quite frankly bizarre that anyone would see that as a bad thing.
Inclusivity hurts no one; All the people who got mad at the little mermaid having a black woman as the main character, are great examples of how it only hurts the most sensitive, close minded people. My black friend told me how much his little nieces loved the new little mermaid, having felt represented. Anyone who complains about that stuff is quite silly and, quite frankly, have an opinion that matters very little.
Yeah, they definitely don't know how to make RPGs anymore, but the action adventure games they do make are still fun for the most part imo, Veilguard included.
Yeah, I stuck around through Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age: Inquisition, despite their habit of stripping out the more interesting mechanics from both series.
I'd even go so far as to say that Dragon Age II took the series in a fun direction that would have made for a great game if EA hadn't set such a short deadline for it, while Dragon Age: Inquisition would have been better with a more _limited_ scope instead of filling the world with open-world style collectibles and filler side quests.
And, honestly, I probably would have been pretty excited for The Veilguard/Dreadwolf if it had released half a decade ago instead of BioWarEA constantly forcing the team to help out with other projects. It looks really cool. The character creator looks like the best they've ever produced. But I'm out of the enthusiasm I used to have.
I really like this ironic/sarcastic angle to the Jimquisition episodes. I hope she'll make them like this more often.
Thank God for Stephanie and Z.Mann Zilla's interactions
and thank god for her fanbase
Can we make that Steam group and the Bloke Games detector a real thing, please?
"That's not intolerance, if anything it's narcissism. Wait, no, it's not that either... shut up!" 😆
Thank God for you, Steph.
I'm gonna second your praise of Laura. She's awesome. I'm happy to see her do accessibility consulting on multiple video games this year.
I'll third it, but this tribalism would make even Trump proud of the loyalty to fiends over criticizing a clearly deficient title that would have been ripped apart on this channel 10-15 years ago.
I am here 18 seconds after release. sigh What am i doing with my life.
29 seconds
3 minutes, mood kindred.
Thanking God for Steph, I assume.
Spending it well?
Okay the sarcasm *oozing* from every swcond of this video has me chuckling. It would be absolutely hilarious if it wasnt for people unironically trying to argue like this in public discourse.
Every.
Fucking.
Time.
The jon zoom in was peak comedy
Cateful now, you may get me interested in playing an EA title, something I have been avoiding for many years.
Veilguard is truly shameful. I spent several hours making a trans masc xaddy to play as and stare longingly at and being angry about, only to find that the game's only going to bring up his transness like once in six hours - and they even had a little content warning so that I wouldn't be upset by the choice I might make! Disgusting.
this is really disappointing :( :( I am definitely going to avoid this game that I only heard about a few days ago now, when I otherwise would have bought 3 copies and played it for years
@@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll - Unjoking for a moment :
I think something that really upsets these guys is that the market for gaming is pretty close to "one man, one vote", because the expected number of sales of any game to any given consumer is either One or Zero. So it's a lot harder for someone to wield more influence just by having more money or being angrier or considering themselves The True Fans or whatever. So the maximum number of sales that anyone can threaten to withhold is... One.
This is why so much of the grift is focused on spreading as many lies as possible and establishing a narrative that This Is The Bad Game - to try to deter anyone from bothering to find out why they might like the game themselves or not. Nothing offends these guys more than someone showing up in their space to tell people that they bought the game and what they do or don't like about it - because even if they say they don't like it, they're still contradicting the message that you MUSTN'T buy it.
This is what I needed to get through this monday
speak for yourself...... i was hoping to hunt here..... I'm smruffing here
From what I heard of the Veilguard, they've backpedalled the race war implications for Solas, got a Tevinter revanchist cult to embrace elven gods, and stuffed the party exclusively with uncontroversial do-gooders. Which is to say, the game has gone completely apolitical, abandoning the series's prior direction of being political AF.
And of course the outrage merchants are angry that the game from BioWare, the people who put one of the first official lesbians in Star Wars (if not the very first) is "woke". Damn parasites are tainting pertinent criticism by association.
waaait who? was it Juhani? or is it in the mmo? it's been so long since i played kotor i remember having to install a mod so you could romance Bastila as female Revan
@@666FallenShadow Juhani. I’m not sure if she’s actually the first but she’s definitely one of the first. And I think there was a same sex romance option in BG2 but I can’t remember if they were male or female. Fallout 2 had same sex marriage for both genders so that’s probably the first.
@@Pårchmēntôs BG2 doesn't have same-sex relationships, BG2:EE introduced them, ~15 years later. BG2 did tone down some of the sexism of BG1 though (David Gaider successfully campaigned for dropping the Conanesque paperdoll designs) and there were some subtexts/teasings with the drow, but until Beamdog's additional NPCs as part of their Enhanced Editions/Siege of Dragonspear, all the romance options were straight, so I wouldn't really count that one.
im trying to remember who is not good in dragon age and the only ones i could think of is origins with Sten, Zevran, and maybe Morrigan, Dragon age 2 you could only say Anders is not good for blowing up the chantry but that about it and inquisition only solas comes to mind but that only because of veilguard and nothing else.
@@ShadowGun625 Isabela is an unapologetic pirate who set off the whole Qunari crisis, Merrill is a blood mage liable to get her entire village killed, Sera is an aimless racist troll, Blackwall is a murderer, and all of that is off the top of my head. You can lose more than just Anders in the DA2 finale if you don't have good influence because they take sides in a real deadly conflict.
My favorite part in Valguard is where you missed-gendered a character and are forced to do push-ups.
Top tier writing, Bioware.
5:27 This. Just THIS. ❤️
The funny thing is the point will still be missed by some people. But gosh you could have warned me before subjecting us to such horror. That disclaimer at the start didn’t come close.
I'm waiting for this to get clipped out of context on twitter and a hoard of capital "G" Gamers™ to get mad about it
Omg it's been over two years since the last video of yours that I watched omg you're looking amazing Stephanie!!!
Whoa! How'd you go so long?
@geoffok idk youtube stopped recommending her videos to me until today i guess?
I only play games that represent me and characters I can relate to, like cyborg ninjas and cowboys
I hope we will get part 2 - review of the game.
12:12 - NBA 2K25 being the list of *woke games on that site is undeniably hilarious 😂😂🤣
I sure hope no person in my country takes this seriously after edging all weekend for the election.
I agree with the overall point, but criticising Veilguard for bad writing is definitely a valid criticism
Let me ask you a question? Did you think DA2 had good writing?
@lessonslearned2569 we could talk about the bathtub full of blood quip from DA:O.
@@lessonslearned2569 Does that somehow make it better that this game has bad writing? 'what about'ism' is lame, dude.
@@xboxrules8472 Ah, aacknowledging other's people existence is "bad writing".
Your literal fantasy is for other people not to exists.
Ok then....
Even the main thing that's being criticized as far as I've seen, the scene about Bharving, is just really cringy. I'm sure plenty of people have raged about it being what stops them buying the game entirely, which is ridiculous, but it deserves to be cringed at.
My interest in it was lost when I heard that it was only going to have three choices from previous games. Oh sorry, previous game. Because apparently it's only getting them from Inquisition.
Whenever a piece of media comes out which is declared as "Woke" I'm always reminded of Sarah Z vid called "Sacrificial Trash" which talks about how demonizes progressive media is when it isn't considered good. How people will hyper focus and tear a work apart for years and blame the writing on the progressive themes.
Ultimately, Queer folks and PoC have every right to make mediocore games, just like Ubisoft does!
There's a difference between a game having mediocre writing and just coincidentally being progressive. And it being progressive being the cause of its bad writing.
There is literally no good way to write modern gender communist propaganda into a medieval europe style fantasy setting with dwarves and elves and whatnot. Just the attempt is inherently gonna cripple your work automatically.
Nicely done, Steph. Some superlative satire!
I am also immensely proud of Laura