I disagree-I'm of the opinion that if you're not getting a 1 piece maple q-sawn (or rift sawn) neck from the Custom shop you're doing it wrong. This is an awesome base though.
I vote YES on the idea of a “What we’re listening to here at Empire Music” segment. I love artist/album spotlight type videos. Pino Palladino is one of my favorites too. A Pino video would probably get a ton of views.
There's a lot of them out there already.. so probably won't go there. However, I like the "staff pics" idea. hmmmmm. 3 from my week has been - Jimi Tenor "Order of Nothingnes" , Stevie Wonder "In Square Circle", and Bill Laswell "Live at the Bowery Poetry Project. Thanks for watching - Anthony
I’ve actually played Pinos actual red P bass. Supported the Who back in 2007 on 14 dates . Spent every night sitting a feet behind a Pa stack watching him . And the days talking about everything from bass and dangelo sessions to living around the world . He’s a lovely man . His bass plays like butter . Just like my very own 63 P . I have never played a custom shop instrument that comes anywhere near an original . Similar but not even close
I'm lucky to be able to have two amazing P's in the stable. One with each... tracked a record last weekend and used ALL ROUNDS. So much depends on the music. My sage advice... BUY TWO... FROM EMPIRE MUSIC lol. Thanks for watching - Anthony
- I play onenof these at the Boston Guitar Center back when they stocked higher end basses. It was an amazing bass both in tone and feel. Very comfortable playability even with the 1 3/4” chunky neck. I found it to have an early Entwhistle P bark to it when you dig in a bit.
I have a a 2014 one, and I totally agree : palm mute is very addictive on this bass ! Mine does not sound as bright as on this video.... probably due to my worn TI infield strings :D
Yeah probably. I had everything flat on the amp/DI. I believe I played the majority of it w/ tone at 100%. Fresh flats still have a crispness to them for a few weeks. Thanks for watching - Anthony
Depends on the Era, but I know what you mean. Being a MASSIVE D'angelo Voodoo fan (and that was really where Pino became my guiding voice) I think of a P personally. A testament to his longevity and versatility. Thanks for watching - Anthony
@@EmpireMusicPgh No worries. Thank you for providing it. Was it measured from the output jack or directly on the pickup? This pickup has something special going on!
There is nothing new or novel about these basses. It’s not that good it only has pino name on. It’s very basic and not worth the money. You could build out a warmoth put a fralin pup in and pay $1200 or under as opposed to $5000 for virtually nothing. This is my opinion
I understand your point BUT I do think the custom shop is worth every penny. You can’t get that feel and mojo from a warmoth built bass unless you are a master luthier… among other things
@mikevee333 wood is wood alder is alder ash is ash. You can treat and texture it how you want to make it feel a certain way. If someone can “gaslight” you to pay $5000 for something that’s treated and lacquered differently with a fender logo on it. More power to you. All these guys warmoth, fender, Gibson, etc. Buy their wood from the same suppliers but “treat” the wood differently. If that’s worth $5000 over $500 or less to you. More power to you buy it. Not hatin at all.
To me, the most disappointing aspect of the PINO CS is that the relic’ing is done with a stencil process, and so every PINO CS has identical relic’ing to mimic one of PINO’s vintage basses. So the relic’ing is really not custom at all. It’s production in the truest sense. This is why I won’t own one of these. The Pino CS bass is the least custom made of the Fender CS basses. It should cost the same as an AVRI.
That's the whole point of a signature series which has relic; that it replicates the ACTUAL relic of the reference bass. Also, for the Pino's, the only relic which is mimicked are the wear on the headstocks fender logo, and the buckle rash on the back of the bass. All the other parts of the bass has journeyman which varies bass to bass (the nitro cracking + aged hardware/pickguard). Every other artist signature relic from the CS also uses stencils to copy the actual wear (Jaco Pastorius, Michael Landau, Rory Gallagher, Dusty Hill, list goes on and on...) Is it really the 'Pino signature custom relic' if it doesn't have his exact wear?
I understand your point, but I still maintain that it’s more of a production bass than a CS shop. I would be far more interested if each bass was hand relic’ed to resemble the model bass as close as possible without using a stencil process. It would also make the relic’ing look more realistic. As it is, the back of the bass looks almost cartoonish. The first Pino CS basses did not use stencils, and they look much better. They are hard to come by.
I get all of this. I also am aware (as someone in the public eye, and in the industry) that there will ALWAYS be conflicting views/opinions on topics like this. The bottom line is this. Find an instrument that you connect with by whatever means you need to, and play the living **** out of it. I love relic'ing (regardless of pattern) as well as NOS basses. I think these basses are overwhelmingly impressive from a tone and feel perspective. I also completely understand how someone may look at it otherwise. I've played MANY AVII's and think this a real step above those. That doesn't make the AVII bad, it actually proves its value at the price. Thanks for watching and for participating in the discourse on our channel - Anthony.
Arguably the best custom shop precision they have ever made. Period.
Why?
I disagree-I'm of the opinion that if you're not getting a 1 piece maple q-sawn (or rift sawn) neck from the Custom shop you're doing it wrong. This is an awesome base though.
Check out the one I bought, it’s on my channel, there’s an unboxing video about it :)
@@TehDFC But the pino’s DO come with a quartersawn 1pc maple neck
@@saiful7752 With rosewood fretboard glued on making it more than 1 piece in total.
I vote YES on the idea of a “What we’re listening to here at Empire Music” segment.
I love artist/album spotlight type videos. Pino Palladino is one of my favorites too. A Pino video would probably get a ton of views.
There's a lot of them out there already.. so probably won't go there. However, I like the "staff pics" idea. hmmmmm. 3 from my week has been - Jimi Tenor "Order of Nothingnes" , Stevie Wonder "In Square Circle", and Bill Laswell "Live at the Bowery Poetry Project. Thanks for watching - Anthony
I’ve actually played Pinos actual red P bass.
Supported the Who back in 2007 on 14 dates . Spent every night sitting a feet behind a Pa stack watching him . And the days talking about everything from bass and dangelo sessions to living around the world . He’s a lovely man . His bass plays like butter . Just like my very own 63 P . I have never played a custom shop instrument that comes anywhere near an original .
Similar but not even close
P basses with flats sound so good! I need to put flats on one of my P basses but it's hard because they also sound great with roundwounds! 😅
I'm lucky to be able to have two amazing P's in the stable. One with each... tracked a record last weekend and used ALL ROUNDS. So much depends on the music. My sage advice... BUY TWO... FROM EMPIRE MUSIC lol. Thanks for watching - Anthony
Nice video on the bass! It would be great to one one with both the Pino and Sean Hurley signature bass to compare!
Thanks! Nice review done by a great Bassist! 🤙🎸🎶
Beautiful instrument.
- I play onenof these at the Boston Guitar Center back when they stocked higher end basses. It was an amazing bass both in tone and feel. Very comfortable playability even with the 1 3/4” chunky neck. I found it to have an early Entwhistle P bark to it when you dig in a bit.
100% correct... at least to my interpretation of these basses! Thanks for watching - Anthony
Nice video! The strings is la bella? Or Thomastiki? Tanks
Nice flame in the headstock.
I have a a 2014 one, and I totally agree : palm mute is very addictive on this bass ! Mine does not sound as bright as on this video.... probably due to my worn TI infield strings :D
Yeah probably. I had everything flat on the amp/DI. I believe I played the majority of it w/ tone at 100%. Fresh flats still have a crispness to them for a few weeks. Thanks for watching - Anthony
amazing!!
SURE IS!!! - Anthony
pino will forever play a stingray in my mind.
Depends on the Era, but I know what you mean. Being a MASSIVE D'angelo Voodoo fan (and that was really where Pino became my guiding voice) I think of a P personally. A testament to his longevity and versatility. Thanks for watching - Anthony
had one, best bass I've ever owned, sold it to finance a carved upright...BIG mistake.
So cooool ❤❤❤❤
EXTREMELY COOL. JUST LIKE PINO!! Thanks for watching - Anthony
What’s the pickup D.C. resistance on these Pino CS basses?
10.08 - just checked it. Apologies for not having that ready for the vid. Thanks for watching - Anthony
@@EmpireMusicPgh No worries. Thank you for providing it. Was it measured from the output jack or directly on the pickup? This pickup has something special going on!
There is nothing new or novel about these basses. It’s not that good it only has pino name on. It’s very basic and not worth the money. You could build out a warmoth put a fralin pup in and pay $1200 or under as opposed to $5000 for virtually nothing. This is my opinion
Cool story.
I understand your point BUT I do think the custom shop is worth every penny. You can’t get that feel and mojo from a warmoth built bass unless you are a master luthier… among other things
@@pattonPwr ok we”ll go with that
@mikevee333 wood is wood alder is alder ash is ash. You can treat and texture it how you want to make it feel a certain way. If someone can “gaslight” you to pay $5000 for something that’s treated and lacquered differently with a fender logo on it. More power to you. All these guys warmoth, fender, Gibson, etc. Buy their wood from the same suppliers but “treat” the wood differently. If that’s worth $5000 over $500 or less to you. More power to you buy it. Not hatin at all.
@mikevee333 ooooh gotcha I see you are correct. Incorrect comprehension
To me, the most disappointing aspect of the PINO CS is that the relic’ing is done with a stencil process, and so every PINO CS has identical relic’ing to mimic one of PINO’s vintage basses. So the relic’ing is really not custom at all. It’s production in the truest sense. This is why I won’t own one of these. The Pino CS bass is the least custom made of the Fender CS basses. It should cost the same as an AVRI.
That's the whole point of a signature series which has relic; that it replicates the ACTUAL relic of the reference bass. Also, for the Pino's, the only relic which is mimicked are the wear on the headstocks fender logo, and the buckle rash on the back of the bass. All the other parts of the bass has journeyman which varies bass to bass (the nitro cracking + aged hardware/pickguard).
Every other artist signature relic from the CS also uses stencils to copy the actual wear (Jaco Pastorius, Michael Landau, Rory Gallagher, Dusty Hill, list goes on and on...)
Is it really the 'Pino signature custom relic' if it doesn't have his exact wear?
I understand your point, but I still maintain that it’s more of a production bass than a CS shop. I would be far more interested if each bass was hand relic’ed to resemble the model bass as close as possible without using a stencil process. It would also make the relic’ing look more realistic. As it is, the back of the bass looks almost cartoonish. The first Pino CS basses did not use stencils, and they look much better. They are hard to come by.
I get all of this. I also am aware (as someone in the public eye, and in the industry) that there will ALWAYS be conflicting views/opinions on topics like this. The bottom line is this. Find an instrument that you connect with by whatever means you need to, and play the living **** out of it. I love relic'ing (regardless of pattern) as well as NOS basses. I think these basses are overwhelmingly impressive from a tone and feel perspective. I also completely understand how someone may look at it otherwise. I've played MANY AVII's and think this a real step above those. That doesn't make the AVII bad, it actually proves its value at the price. Thanks for watching and for participating in the discourse on our channel - Anthony.