Best reason for going with the killer b intake, for me, is it can grow with the car. If you have a stock sized 2.4" turbo inlet, you can use that coupler. Down the road...bigger turbo is just a coupler swap. With the silicon turbo inlets, you'd have to buy a whole new one. At that point, your way beyond the cost of the killer b. Nice build.
I just got one based on this video and it's a nightmare to install even with the intake manifold off it won't line up with the turbo I am still trying to figure it out.
This is awesome!! Thanks for posting this video. Im about to tackle this project this weekend. Do they make silicone hoses for the connections to the turbo inlet?
This didn't fit in my '05 saabaru without modification. i'm having to die grind parts of the intake manifold where it connects to the tgv assemblies at the front and the back for clearance. There's clearance problems with the aforementioned evap solenoid as well even without the 90deg fitting installed. There's definitely trouble putting this thing in an old crusty car like mine
I wonder if Saab had anything extra that the WRX or STI didn’t have. Or have some parts in a different location. For the evap solenoid, I installed that afterwards with no issues. You can grind down the nub on that evap bracket and be able to rotate even more which adds some clearance. Either way this area for the turbo inlet is always limited. From the APS turbo inlet to the Samco turbo inlets, this by far was the easiest one I have ever installed.
I returned mine, went with a cobb. The install was not easy, even with having the manifold off. There was a lot of rubbing and bending of fuel lines. Just wasn't worth it in the end.
@@Chris05STi1982 I have spoken to killer b since my first comment and all they said was " We installed this part on many different models, all in various stages of modification. Unfortunately it’s impossible to get our hands on every variation." and " We did not have a fitment issue like that."
Regarding the silicon coupler that sits between the Killer B inlet and the turbo...did you have any difficulty installing this coupler on the inlet side (i.e. the side with the larger ID)? It seems like a really snug fit between the coupler and the Killer B inlet. Any tips on how to get it on without ruining the finish? Thanks!
I have done these and the APS turbo inlets and they have been snug. The key with this turbo inlet is trimming the coupler at an angle to fit the turbo and inlet. If you have a larger turbo like mine it is really really tight for the coupler to fit perfectly but that is always the case with stock location unless you go with a full silicon turbo inlet. Then you risk it collapsing
@@Chris05STi1982 I actually reached out to Killer B as well and it seems like they had a rare defect on my coupler--the ID to the inlet was too small. They think the wrap was too much under tension during production. They've already shipped me a replacement KBM to OEM coupler😂Hopefully I won't have any of the same issues on the turbo side!
@@Chris05STi1982 yeah. I'm restoring this car and I figured I would upgrade that because somebody had a junk silicone inlet hose I can't stand on there and didn't even bother to plug the hole for the bypass valve because it runs a blow off valve. So I'm just trying to go through and fix all the stupid mistakes and wanted to try this intake. I didn't want to have to go through and alter too much on this car.
@@TheJines123 you may be able to slightly bend the fuel lines if they are close and touching the turbo inlet. Could try installing the turbo inlet first then then the intake manifold.
Great video. But the reason it's easy is because the size is similar to stock. Your engine is out, you have spacers. I have the perrin version which is much bigger with better air flow and a pain to install. But it does install with engine in. However, the killer bee looks really nice but doubt it ha better airflow than perrin.
I have a friend with the Perrin silicon turbo inlet as well and while tuning it was collapsing on its self. This doesn’t do that, it is actually larger in diameter than stock and has a smoother transition. Reminds me of the APS turbo inlet back in the day. The way this turbo installs is just as easy as the engine in the car or not. But it is always a struggle with the silicone couplers.
As others have commented, the fitment of the Killer B hard turbo inlet is trash. It hits the TGV housings and OEM fuel lines. It is also well nigh impossible to install with the engine in the car. Overhyped and under-engineered.
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Now do it with the engine still in the car.
Best reason for going with the killer b intake, for me, is it can grow with the car. If you have a stock sized 2.4" turbo inlet, you can use that coupler. Down the road...bigger turbo is just a coupler swap. With the silicon turbo inlets, you'd have to buy a whole new one. At that point, your way beyond the cost of the killer b. Nice build.
I just got one based on this video and it's a nightmare to install even with the intake manifold off it won't line up with the turbo I am still trying to figure it out.
What turbo are you running? The coupler per their video requires you to trim it. Can you give some details?
Thanks for the video bro🤜🏻🤜🏻 bout to do the install this weekend 👍🏻👍🏻
Hope my video helps!! Let me know if you have any questions!🤙
I just bought one in black . For my 2010 sti
This is awesome!! Thanks for posting this video. Im about to tackle this project this weekend.
Do they make silicone hoses for the connections to the turbo inlet?
No but you can buy the Vibrant multi vac hose kit and use one of the hoses and cut to length.
This didn't fit in my '05 saabaru without modification. i'm having to die grind parts of the intake manifold where it connects to the tgv assemblies at the front and the back for clearance. There's clearance problems with the aforementioned evap solenoid as well even without the 90deg fitting installed. There's definitely trouble putting this thing in an old crusty car like mine
I wonder if Saab had anything extra that the WRX or STI didn’t have. Or have some parts in a different location. For the evap solenoid, I installed that afterwards with no issues. You can grind down the nub on that evap bracket and be able to rotate even more which adds some clearance. Either way this area for the turbo inlet is always limited. From the APS turbo inlet to the Samco turbo inlets, this by far was the easiest one I have ever installed.
I returned mine, went with a cobb. The install was not easy, even with having the manifold off. There was a lot of rubbing and bending of fuel lines. Just wasn't worth it in the end.
I've just tried installing one of these on my ej255. It definitely doesn't fit. I am also having clearance issues with the tgv and stock fuel lines.
Where is it hitting? I suggest calling Killer B for technical help. I found that having it go in them rotate into position was the easiest method.
@@Chris05STi1982 I have spoken to killer b since my first comment and all they said was " We installed this part on many different models, all in various stages of modification. Unfortunately it’s impossible to get our hands on every variation." and " We did not have a fitment issue like that."
I returned mine, the fitment wasn't great for stock lines, too tight of a fit. Aftermarket TGVs and fuel lines, maybe.
@@StarwindIV I managed to get it to fit but with some modification to the fuel lines and tgv housing and it was still a tight fit
@@subaru4life936 we weren't confident in the long term rubbing on the fuel lines... Wasn't comfortable
the concern is that metal retaining heat and effecting the intake temp from the heat dur8ng track days
Haven’t seen any heating issues with my intake air temp. It has been about 10 degrees warmer than ambient temp.
Regarding the silicon coupler that sits between the Killer B inlet and the turbo...did you have any difficulty installing this coupler on the inlet side (i.e. the side with the larger ID)? It seems like a really snug fit between the coupler and the Killer B inlet. Any tips on how to get it on without ruining the finish? Thanks!
I have done these and the APS turbo inlets and they have been snug. The key with this turbo inlet is trimming the coupler at an angle to fit the turbo and inlet. If you have a larger turbo like mine it is really really tight for the coupler to fit perfectly but that is always the case with stock location unless you go with a full silicon turbo inlet. Then you risk it collapsing
@@Chris05STi1982 I actually reached out to Killer B as well and it seems like they had a rare defect on my coupler--the ID to the inlet was too small. They think the wrap was too much under tension during production. They've already shipped me a replacement KBM to OEM coupler😂Hopefully I won't have any of the same issues on the turbo side!
Does this fit 98-00?
This looks like a cool upgrade but dont see anything about being carb legal in California.
Will this fit a 2013 wrx
It should fit any ej engine
Is it 2.4 inch or 3 inch turbo inlet ?
I believe it is a 3” but I can take measurements for you to make if you would like?
i hear those clear timing covers fade over time
I haven’t seen any yet but this being my daily I am sure I will fully test to see if it does!
This doesn't fit around my fuel lines on my 2004 sti at all.
Stock fuel lines?
@@Chris05STi1982 yeah. I'm restoring this car and I figured I would upgrade that because somebody had a junk silicone inlet hose I can't stand on there and didn't even bother to plug the hole for the bypass valve because it runs a blow off valve. So I'm just trying to go through and fix all the stupid mistakes and wanted to try this intake. I didn't want to have to go through and alter too much on this car.
@@TheJines123 you may be able to slightly bend the fuel lines if they are close and touching the turbo inlet. Could try installing the turbo inlet first then then the intake manifold.
@Chris05STi yeah that's what I had to do. It wouldn't clear the FPR
@@TheJines123 after that it fit ok?
Great video. But the reason it's easy is because the size is similar to stock. Your engine is out, you have spacers.
I have the perrin version which is much bigger with better air flow and a pain to install. But it does install with engine in.
However, the killer bee looks really nice but doubt it ha better airflow than perrin.
I have a friend with the Perrin silicon turbo inlet as well and while tuning it was collapsing on its self. This doesn’t do that, it is actually larger in diameter than stock and has a smoother transition. Reminds me of the APS turbo inlet back in the day. The way this turbo installs is just as easy as the engine in the car or not. But it is always a struggle with the silicone couplers.
With the motor out of the bay
As others have commented, the fitment of the Killer B hard turbo inlet is trash. It hits the TGV housings and OEM fuel lines. It is also well nigh impossible to install with the engine in the car. Overhyped and under-engineered.