Reaction To Hjernevask - Race (Norwegian TV) Harald Eia

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  • @Batchelli
    @Batchelli 3 місяці тому +19

    Harald Eia is a legend

    • @Glenn-hm8sb
      @Glenn-hm8sb 3 місяці тому

      At representing Oslo 😅 Oslo losen

  • @4211234
    @4211234 3 місяці тому +10

    I really like that you react to these, I havent seen them for so many years and its very interesting!

  • @Nabium
    @Nabium 3 місяці тому +29

    There's so much deadpan irony/sarcasm here that just doesn't translate well. Norwegian humour can be very edgy, dry and ironic.
    For example when the anti-racist said "they usually come later", or the theory about making chimp-humans, I saw Mert have a facial reaction. But obviously those were meant to be taken as irony.

    • @BiasOfficialChannel
      @BiasOfficialChannel 3 місяці тому +5

      I felt he got them wrong too 😅

    • @smaakjeks
      @smaakjeks 3 місяці тому +1

      @@BiasOfficialChannel It was an extreme pikachu face we got there, yeah

  • @Henoik
    @Henoik 3 місяці тому +26

    This notion that human races don't exist, or at the least, that they are irrelevant, is not a controversial opinion in Norway. I grew up in the 90s, and the whole concept of human races and racism was first introduced to me by American pop culture.

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 3 місяці тому +1

      Just shows how brainwashed we are in Norway. All other species have races but not the homo sapiens 😂

    • @kunilsen2519
      @kunilsen2519 3 місяці тому +2

      I only learned about it when I got more into the internet and started learning more about America as well

    • @feonor26
      @feonor26 3 місяці тому

      In biology there is only homo sapiens, there are no sub-races in the species of homo sapiens so that different human races doesn't exist is supported by science.

    • @Borrelaas
      @Borrelaas 3 місяці тому

      I am not surprised, many norwegians are clueless and naive to the world when they grow up
      It takes a while until the eyes are opened

    • @squick1842
      @squick1842 11 днів тому

      Marxism

  • @mariannepedersenhagen6760
    @mariannepedersenhagen6760 2 місяці тому

    We are all one People one this earth. Focus on equality and to take care of the world together. We are on the wrong path... One People, One World❤ Greetings from Norway ❤

  • @LillebjørnTrønnes
    @LillebjørnTrønnes 3 місяці тому +6

    To one of your questions, genetics or environment? Thats actually the main theme for the entire 7-parts series. He tries to summarise it in his last episode «Born this way or became this way?». Its a bit of both i reckon.

  • @Glundberg84
    @Glundberg84 3 місяці тому +1

    I have not seen this before, and it was really enjoyable to watch it with you. If there is a continuation, I hope you will watch it. 😊

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 3 місяці тому +1

      I think it has 7 parts. It was unfortunately removed from NRK web site.

    • @Glundberg84
      @Glundberg84 3 місяці тому

      @@miloe436 that's sad. 😞

  • @oh515
    @oh515 3 місяці тому +7

    I do not claim to have definitive answers, but one thing is certain: political and ideological backgrounds can influence and create researcher bias. Researcher bias means that the results can be affected during the data collection process, in some way or another. This does not imply intentional data manipulation, but rather unintended influence. Additionally, preconceived ideals may impact the interpretation process. What we do know is that everyone who conducts research does so for a reason-there is always some underlying interest.
    In this type of research, there are many parameters that need to be in place.
    There are also several missing parameters in the arguments used to substantiate the results. Take, for instance, Jewish communities in the United States and their societal standing. I do not wish to undermine the exceptional achievements seen here, but there is an attribute of Jewish culture that is not adequately reflected, which is their strong ability to support their own-to lift each other up. Some may find this statement controversial, but I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories or the idea that Jews seek world domination. Rather, this phenomenon stems from their historical experience of antisemitism, which led to suspicion and exclusion. As a result, they have developed a culture of solidarity to survive. This has nothing to do with IQ but rather strong traditional networks.
    It is also important to note that these discussions often concern averages. Motivation levels can vary significantly. When an average score is as low as 60, there must be some individuals scoring well below 60-essentially non-functional individuals. Were their results included in the analysis? Well, they must have been, otherwise, how would one arrive at an average of 60? Unless, of course, everyone scored exactly 60, which would be just as remarkable. Either way, these are implausible results, but the researcher has still taken them into account.

    • @Henoik
      @Henoik 3 місяці тому +3

      Exactly, and as an academic myself, I find that a lot of these people seem to conclude on the causality, even though the studies only show a statistical correlation. A good way to combat researcher bias is by conducting bigger meta studies, but still, if you don't look at the why, then you can't really conclude with the why either.

    • @herrbonk3635
      @herrbonk3635 3 місяці тому +2

      I largely agree, except for two remarks that I find important:
      1) It's not only about data collection, more about assumptions (axioms), leading to certain models, interpretations, and conclusions being strongly preferred over others, i.e. without empirical or logical ground.
      2) It's not really about jews per se, but specifically about ashkenazi jews, i.e. these stemming from Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, etc. (formely German and Jiddish speaking areas).

    • @oh515
      @oh515 3 місяці тому +2

      @@herrbonk3635
      1. You are absolutely right. No, it’s not just about the process of data collection, but the margins are already influenced at that stage. Not least, what you’ve touched upon: whether it’s even possible to measure intelligence differences between ethnic groups without nearly identical cultural preferences and standardized tests.
      2. That’s correct. The claim was that higher IQs were only found among Ashkenazi Jews, but the Jewish success story in the U.S. also includes Jews of Sephardic and Mizrahi descent. So, your observation reinforces my point, which was: even though solidarity has been a smart strategy, it is neither in itself proof of, nor a barometer for, an overall higher IQ. It may be an indicator, but the formidable success of the Jewish population wouldn’t have been the same without traditions such as solidarity, education, and mentorship. IQ alone wouldn’t have led to the same level of success.
      And this is where your point comes in: especially when this success isn’t limited to Ashkenazi Jews. My claim is also not that certain ethnic groups may not have higher or lower measured IQs than others.
      One must also consider the reasons behind such differences, which brings us back to point 1. How to calibrated the measurement.

  • @TheBann90
    @TheBann90 3 місяці тому +5

    It was a good show. But the censorship machine cancelled him even before season 1 was over. It was a sad spectacle.

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 3 місяці тому +2

      True. Norwegians were not ready for this. Too much truthbombs.,

    • @BergenDev
      @BergenDev 3 місяці тому

      @@miloe436 Not the Norwegians, but the loud minority. Everything is racist, homophobic etc to these people. And still they claim to be liberal, but act like fascists by muting opposing thoughts challenging their agendas. But if there is no race, nobody could be racist.

  • @nanach6276
    @nanach6276 3 місяці тому +2

    Curiosity is humans strongest emotion

  • @nanach6276
    @nanach6276 3 місяці тому +1

    Anyone who thinks everything will be the same if numbers got out have never played World of Warcraft before. Lets say 500 is required to do a job and I'm 550. They will still wait around for 30 minutes to get a 600+ just to make sure everything goes smooth. World of Warcraft is like a small copy of our society in a way

  • @avlinrbdig5715
    @avlinrbdig5715 3 місяці тому +5

    Certainly there are differences between different genetics. In different populations and within the same population.
    There are however smart and stupid black and white people. And there are athletic black and white people.
    Maybe there might be some statistical difference but regardless of that
    Most peoples have the capacity to produce skilled individuals in various fields and to categorise humans based on ethnicity is mostly unfounded
    Because environmental factors will determine most of it.
    Imo

    • @avlinrbdig5715
      @avlinrbdig5715 3 місяці тому +1

      However.. does this mean that we should for example give all the same people the same treatment in heal care if some diseases are more prevalent in certain ethnicities? No. It should be fair, and all human health should be researched and treated. Including even women.
      But people should not be so woke that they think there are no differences at all

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 3 місяці тому

      The average IQ of african american is 85. Average US white is 100. This is one of the most researched topic in human science and well established. So no, enviromental factors are not the most important. Genetics is. Probably around 70-80% of determining cognitive capacity.

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 3 місяці тому +1

      The lowest values we find in Africa with as low as 50 for some tribes, average Africa is 70. Ashkanasi jews has an average of 112-115, the highest on this planet. IQ is one of our best methods of determining the outcome of your life.

    • @smaakjeks
      @smaakjeks 3 місяці тому

      @@miloe436
      1 - IQ is affected by environment, as twin studies have shown. This was also shown by how Irish people performed on IQ tests before they were accepted as "white". You systemically keep a population from achievements, you keep their IQ test scores low.
      2 - You increase your IQ score by conducting repeated tests. Are we to assume that your inherent intelligence increases just from performing tests?
      3 - Human genetics vary on a cline. There is no way to categorise biological differences among humans into "black" and "white" categories, because the categories are socially identifiable, not genetically.
      Obviously, IQ test scores is not a good score of general inherent mental faculties.

  • @herrbonk3635
    @herrbonk3635 3 місяці тому +1

    12:40 Yes, there are a lot of countries with majority "black" people. But who says all of them have the same genetics... (more than all "white" people would be identical). Africa is still the most genetically diverse continent on earth, so there are lots of subgroups there (including those who recently migrated to other places, say Jamaica).

    • @smaakjeks
      @smaakjeks 3 місяці тому

      Only racists say they are the same.

    • @herrbonk3635
      @herrbonk3635 3 місяці тому

      @@smaakjeks Yeah, pretty much.

  • @nanach6276
    @nanach6276 3 місяці тому +1

    If the IQ test where to guess how many marbles where in a glass bowl you would get accurate answers, because using different size objects is something everyone do every day.
    In guessing competitions where size is the matter the average is always the closest.

    • @truxton1000
      @truxton1000 3 місяці тому +1

      Well that’s just about understanding maths…

    • @poulhenne
      @poulhenne 3 місяці тому

      The IQ tests are designed to make western culture look superior, it has nothing to do with how intelligent a person is.

  • @kunilsen2519
    @kunilsen2519 3 місяці тому +2

    I think 90% of who we are is our culture -how we were raised. I do think we inherit traits from parent to child, but that is based on genetics, not race. If race is a thing, it's only to describe the general looks of people, and nothing more than physical appearance.

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 2 місяці тому

      The average IQ of african american is 85. Average US white is 100. This is one of the most researched topic in human science and well established. So no, enviromental factors are not the most important. Genetics is. Probably around 70-80% of determining cognitive capacity.

    • @kunilsen2519
      @kunilsen2519 2 місяці тому

      @@miloe436 Well, IQ is only one component of a person's intelligence. And that is developed through generations of natural selection. So depending on your ancestry, different components of the Human genes have survived or been developed depending on the different places of the world.
      How we look is part of this, and is what people call race. But a human race can be mixed, and a person's race does not decide really anything about what that person is good at or how smart they are. It is their genetics and upbringing.

  • @iopla3755
    @iopla3755 3 місяці тому +4

    i feel like norway has gotten a lot better about accepting colored people in jobs now, ofc i can't speak for everywhere but more uncommon to find workplaces without colored people rather than with them

    • @iopla3755
      @iopla3755 3 місяці тому

      @@Glenn-hm8sb what? i can't say i understand what you mean by that, and what that has to do with my comment?

    • @iopla3755
      @iopla3755 3 місяці тому

      @Glenn-hm8sb sry, i guess. I'm from Norway, and i personally haven't seen much discrimination in the workplace around where i have been working these past few years. Hence, why i said i "think" it's gotten better compared to how it was in the video

    • @iopla3755
      @iopla3755 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Glenn-hm8sb not sure you hit the right comment when typed the first message, i never compared norway to the states. i compared norway now to noeway when the video he reacted to was made🤔

    • @iopla3755
      @iopla3755 3 місяці тому +1

      @Glenn-hm8sb sure, but any country can get "better" than what it was were years prior. That is not exclusive to the "worst" countries, and why even bring up the states? The reactor is not from the states video is not from the states, and i'm neither from the states or metioned it lol

    • @Glenn-hm8sb
      @Glenn-hm8sb 3 місяці тому +1

      @@iopla3755 Got the point. You might be right ;)

  • @Nabium
    @Nabium 3 місяці тому +4

    The difference between humans and bred animals, like dogs, is the natural mix of humans. It's hard to make out where the borders would go on the supposed different races of humans, and most attempts at classifying different races has had huge problems when looking at genetics. For example East Asians have much more similar genes to Native Americans, than someone from West Africa has with someone from the Horn of Africa. And moreover, someone from the Horn of Africa has more genes in common with someone from Norway or even Native Americans than they do with Khoi-San people of Southern Africa. Yet we systematically label subsaharan into one race, and genetically speaking that isn't sensible - instead that's a sign of our own prejudice.
    We just have too much cultural prejudice to make sensible classification of supposed races.
    If we were to meaningfully use the term race then there should be some kind of scientific study to determin this, and not our Western traditional classification. And so far no biologist have been willing to make such studies, instead most biologists today speak against the notion of human races. So therefore it would make sense to talk less about races in our everyday talk.

    • @poulhenne
      @poulhenne 3 місяці тому

      The biological definition of race is actually very clear, but it does not get much airtime: If two individuals can reproduce offspring that itself can reproduce, they are of the same race.
      But since that cannot be used to make aryans look superior, it is ignored.

    • @Nabium
      @Nabium 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@poulhenne I found no-one who shared that definition when searching for it. It sounds more like the definition of species, if you ask me.
      Also, I don't see that aryan argument as very valid either. How many today follows such a world view? Not many, maybe a fringe bunch of people with different personality disorders.
      Just watch the video, all the people who's more on the racist side of the scale clearly states East-Asians and Ashkanazi as "superior" in intelligence, West-African descendent Americans in strength, and certain East African tribes in endurance.

    • @herrbonk3635
      @herrbonk3635 3 місяці тому +1

      @@poulhenne No no... that's the same *_species!_* Races can mix, per definition.

    • @herrbonk3635
      @herrbonk3635 3 місяці тому +1

      That's like saying there are no colors, because colors are usually mixed. The fact that there are no clear line between yellow and green, or yellow and orange does not make colors non existent, or even unscientific.

    • @Nabium
      @Nabium 3 місяці тому +1

      @@herrbonk3635 I'm saying it's hard to define where one race begins and one ends, and that's problematic.
      Especially, when the definitions we use groups people who are very different together, and then seperate people who are very similar, just based on European prejudice.

  • @arngrimandersen5690
    @arngrimandersen5690 3 місяці тому +3

    så alt der kan misbruges skal ikke undersøges , det giver jo ingen mening

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 3 місяці тому +2

      This is number 1 reason why mass media in Sweden refused to write about the problems with immigration. Even the police when they asked people to look out for a person of interest wouldn't give a description of the person if he was black or middle eastern.

    • @arngrimandersen5690
      @arngrimandersen5690 3 місяці тому

      @@miloe436 du får den lige på Dansk , mit Engelsk er ikke 100% , ja du har ret , man skal førdst se problemet ! så kan man der efter finde en løsning , og tro mig , når Dansker kikker på sverige , så er vi glade for at vi aldrig har gjordt som svenskerne . kik på Bande problemerne ,tak for det fine svar . have en god dag

    • @poulhenne
      @poulhenne 3 місяці тому

      Det giver ligeså lidt mening, som den “forskning” der bliver lavet af ariske mennesker der ønsker at sætte sig selv på toppen?

  • @Grimhead
    @Grimhead 3 місяці тому +2

    Ofcourse there's diffrent humanoid races. It documented and proven..

    • @smaakjeks
      @smaakjeks 3 місяці тому

      lol no

    • @Grimhead
      @Grimhead 3 місяці тому

      @@smaakjeks You do know Homo Sapien is not the only one, right? If not you should REALLY go back to school.

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 2 місяці тому

      Of course. We are just one of the species with different races. Just like dogs, cats and horses.

    • @smaakjeks
      @smaakjeks 2 місяці тому

      @@miloe436 No. Humans are too similar to meaningfully be distinguished into biological races or subspecies. Dogs, cats, horses; all of these have MUCH more genetic diversity among them than do humans.

    • @Grimhead
      @Grimhead 2 місяці тому

      ​@@smaakjeks That is an incorrect statement made by an undereducated person. You.

  • @Noomi-v8j
    @Noomi-v8j 2 місяці тому

    I don’t mind if we actually are different physically in bodies and brains.
    And different due to evolving with our environment, -the nature where we live in the world,
    and our social and cultural environments.
    And different due to family and inheritance and what were available to us, of learning and resources, such as teachers and trainers, but also foods and nutrients, health care, economy, free time to rest, play, restitution, health, ….. being allowed and acknowledged by parents…
    Having great role models.
    🙂
    I believe that the reason it problematic to talk about race is because cruel people always finds a way to abuse others, for what ever reason,
    and some victims are told that their race is the problem with them.
    Which is idiotic. Embarrassing. Wrong. Cruel. Stupid. Pointless.
    And - if we focus on race when someone is going to choose a career path or lifestyle, we rob the individual of choosing for them selves. And this right and need is important for our mental and physical health.

  • @smaakjeks
    @smaakjeks 3 місяці тому +1

    Biologist here: there are no human races, going by any metric of genetic distance you care to measure. Or, to put it another way, if you want to distinguish humans into subspecies/races, you end up with either only 1 race, or hundreds. And then you have to distinguish THOUSANDS of races/subspecies among other mammals. Humans are incredibly similar genetically, due to a bottleneck event that happened about 70k years ago. So, we are all Africans. Sorry, racists ^-^

  • @tomre2769
    @tomre2769 3 місяці тому +2

    Genetics determine almost everything.

  • @BastianNorW
    @BastianNorW 3 місяці тому

    All humans are the same. The fact that people still split humans into different races is "raciest". And using the word "racism" is wrong. It's more like ethnocentrism. The most important things for any human is how your upbringing was, and how the environment around you was while growing up.

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 3 місяці тому

      Humans are very different. If you mean that the human value is the same then this is of course a valid opinion. But it would still be an opinion, or if you like, a social construct.

  • @omgwerockhard
    @omgwerockhard 3 місяці тому +5

    These woke hobby "professors" (probs vote SV-Rødt-MDG)claims that there isn't anything with genes to make them run fast i was shaking my head. It was even mentioned they had rare genes in Jamaica.

    • @BergenDev
      @BergenDev 3 місяці тому

      These are the same people supporting Palestine, even tho most concider them a terror state.

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 3 місяці тому +5

      Yeah, they are even worse in the other episodes. Totally ignoring the genetic side and only "researching" on environment.

    • @omgwerockhard
      @omgwerockhard 3 місяці тому

      @@miloe436 aha ok i have no idea why they just totally ignore facts and they get upset on others behalf. Its even more of that stuff today than back then. Its like if you take someone from lets say from a random country to Norway and let him train from a young age skiis i highly doubt he or her would out class anyone else and win world cups

    • @smaakjeks
      @smaakjeks 3 місяці тому

      2 questions:
      1 - Who's the "them" you refer to about running fast?
      2 - What is your expertise on quantitative genetics as it relates to anthropology?

    • @omgwerockhard
      @omgwerockhard 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@smaakjeksDidnt you watch the video... The woke karens had buried their heads in the sand denying it. Whilst studies had shown it to be the case. Nr2 that is such a trash argument. If you follow a football team with that logic you cannot complain or say what you think cuz you arent the manager. Give me a break

  • @BergenDev
    @BergenDev 3 місяці тому +2

    "There are no races"? WUT?Why am i called Caucasian then? Im not from the bloody Caucasus!

    • @jostein1195
      @jostein1195 3 місяці тому +1

      There's a difference between biological races, and cultural races. The Americans. for some (cultural) reason are very specific at labelling everyone in some race.

    • @miloe436
      @miloe436 3 місяці тому

      @@jostein1195 There's nothing called cultural race.

    • @poulhenne
      @poulhenne 3 місяці тому

      @@miloe436: And biological race is defined clearly from who can breed reproducing offspring, which has zero to do with skincolor.

    • @poulhenne
      @poulhenne 3 місяці тому

      Caucasian is a rebranding the americans had to do, after the 50’s where “white” got a bit too abused by the kkk. And it is all of course a social construct to make exploitation more acceptable in the aryan dominated world.

    • @jostein1195
      @jostein1195 3 місяці тому +1

      @@miloe436 short for "race as a cultural concept". The obsession with classifying people according to their race is limited to the American culture, and the former apartheid cultures of southern Africa.

  • @karsteinmartinsen489
    @karsteinmartinsen489 2 місяці тому

    SOS rasisme.ha ha ha