Hi! Thank you for your valuable info. My creams have separated on me many times. Its usually after it has emulsified, cooled and I add my fragrance oil and preservative. Do you think this may be due to not having the right percentage of emulsifying wax?
I want to make a vitamin e moisturizer. I have the vitamin e and I have the emulsifier (and distilled water) however I don't know what the percentage of each should be. I want my moisturizer to be slightly greasy or oily and not to be completely absorbed into the skin.
For my case i think the seperation is due to an emulsion mistake ( i got oils floating on the top surface) I got an emulsifier wax from my manufacturer and he told me to put oil in water but it wasn't true when i searched the web. I have found that water should be added to oils. I think this can also lead to cream seperation right?
If you are making lotion, you will add melted oil phase ingredients to the heated water phase ingredients. If you are making a cream (thicker emulsion, you will add water to oil ).
Please could you give us more insight about lotions with Sodium Lactate, because is high in Ions, I have heard that it tends to separate the emulsion when is made with BTMS 25, is that true. Or it’s because of the percentages ?
Sodium Lactate and BTMS 25 are not meant for lotion. Sodium Lactate is meant for Cold Process Soap mostly. A better humectant is glycerin or propanediol 1,3. BTMS 25 is better for haircare product because it is cationic. Use emulsifying wax or other emulsifiers meant for oil in water emulsion.
@@greenbeautychemist. thank you so much for your advice 💥🥰 I wanted to use the Sodium Lactate because the expiring date of the cream would be longer, since here in my City the weather is so hot, but I’ll use Propanediol. 🌺🌺🌺🌿
In the beginning of the video you mentioned the oil to water ratio. What is the recommended oil to water ratio for o/w emulsions? I'm trying to make a magnesium lotion and when I take the water portion and replace it with magnesium oil, the emulsion fails. I've wasted so much product, and I'm ready to give up after many failed attempts. I would greatly appreciate any advice. Thank you for your channel, and God bless.
Please what could be the cause of a lotion,especially a hair conditioner to be airy? After mixing and leaving the mixture I see tiny bubbles but when I touch it,it smoothens out. In Nigeria,Lagos especially the emulsifiers don't come with recommended usage because where I purchase them its been measured in a nylon because I buy little for experiments and that's all. I make use of BTMS 50,Cetyl achol and glceryl stearate. 2%:1%:1%.
When it is airy, it shows it is not stable. Your emulsifier use is not enough. You need to contact your supplier for recommended usage rate. Another cause of airy emulsion is when use an immersion blender. It will pump in a lot of air into your emulsion. I recommend you learn cosmetic formulation. That is the first place to start. It will eliminate trial and error that results in waste. Take care.
Check your formula. May be it is not properly balanced. Everything must add up to 100% with the appropriate proportion of all ingredients. For lotion, use emulsifier up to 5%. For cream (thicker emulsions) use from 7 to 10%. Thank you.
Thanks so much, this helped when my lotion didn’t emulsify. I accidentally messed up my measurements and didn’t add enough emulsifier. Immediately as the oil and water combined I noticed the difference. Luckily it was still hot so a placed in a double boiler with the e-wax and oil. Worked perfectly.
@Shanelle Foster. You are welcome. I'm glad this worked for you. Happy formulating. Keep trying different combination of oils and botanical extracts. This will greatly help your formulation skill.
You should follow the instruction from the manufacturer of your base cream. May be glycolic acid is not compatible with some of the ingredients in the base cream. Ask the manufacturer this question. Glycolic acid is a sensitive ingredients. If the pH is not properly adjusted it will separate.
Knowledgeable mam, i have doubt that how to calculate waxes for creams if we want to make cream with 50%waxes n 50%polymer. At that time should we take 3%wax, 1%fatty alcohol n Sepimax zen 1.5% for creams.. ll it work mam. Thank u so much mam.
I tried to make magnesium lotion. It came out more like a paste. Then when I scoop to put in the jar, the water separates. Can you give a calculation to help me fix this? I mainly use mango butter or coco butter, Appleseed or olive oil and local beeswax
very hard to read upside down. I will keep watching. I make my creams all the time but sometimes my supplier sends me cream base and other times a lotion base which I understand has more water in it
I've been trying to make a leave in conditioner with btms 25 with my oil phase being over 12% i find that my product doesnt feel stable it has tiny bubbles in it which I think is oil drops. I've been considering adding 2% cetyl alcohol to stabilise it, do you think this could work?
I know this video on lotion but my question is about hair conditioner, I made a conditioner and everything was going well until I added the preservative then my lotion broke down and turn watery ...my preservative was sitting in a hot room and I was wondering can that destroy it and make it act in this way
You need to look at the percentage of your other ingredients. Your oil phase ingredients may be too high. Formulation support is reserved for My students at stablecosmeticformulas.com
I had enough emulsifier, it was 5%. The water phase (including sodium lactate) was 76% while the oil phase(incliding kojic dip) was 19.5%. It didn't emulsify. The previous one I did was 78% water, 17% oil and 4% emulsifying wax. It turned out great. So what was the problem with this 76% formula?
Did you use a precision or electronic balance scale?. Did you heat the oil phase and water phase to 80-83C? that may be the cause of it not emulsifying. What type of emulsifier did you use. Some emulsifier will not work if you didn't heat both phases to at least 80C. Get a thermostatic water bath and set the temp to 83C.
Invest in a OHAUS Scout SPX scale and use the heat recommendation I gave earlier on. Take care. There are some video recommendations on the channel. Take care.
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Hi! Thank you for your valuable info. My creams have separated on me many times. Its usually after it has emulsified, cooled and I add my fragrance oil and preservative. Do you think this may be due to not having the right percentage of emulsifying wax?
Some preservative are notorious for separating emulsion and large amount of preservative use is also a culprit.
@@greenbeautychemist. which preservative would you recommend for lotion formulation??
I want to make a vitamin e moisturizer. I have the vitamin e and I have the emulsifier (and distilled water) however I don't know what the percentage of each should be. I want my moisturizer to be slightly greasy or oily and not to be completely absorbed into the skin.
For my case i think the seperation is due to an emulsion mistake ( i got oils floating on the top surface)
I got an emulsifier wax from my manufacturer and he told me to put oil in water but it wasn't true when i searched the web.
I have found that water should be added to oils.
I think this can also lead to cream seperation right?
If you are making lotion, you will add melted oil phase ingredients to the heated water phase ingredients.
If you are making a cream (thicker emulsion, you will add water to oil ).
Please could you give us more insight about lotions with Sodium Lactate, because is high in Ions, I have heard that it tends to separate the emulsion when is made with BTMS 25, is that true. Or it’s because of the percentages ?
Sodium Lactate and BTMS 25 are not meant for lotion. Sodium Lactate is meant for Cold Process Soap mostly. A better humectant is glycerin or propanediol 1,3.
BTMS 25 is better for haircare product because it is cationic. Use emulsifying wax or other emulsifiers meant for oil in water emulsion.
@@greenbeautychemist. thank you so much for your advice 💥🥰 I wanted to use the Sodium Lactate because the expiring date of the cream would be longer, since here in my City the weather is so hot, but I’ll use Propanediol. 🌺🌺🌺🌿
In the beginning of the video you mentioned the oil to water ratio. What is the recommended oil to water ratio for o/w emulsions?
I'm trying to make a magnesium lotion and when I take the water portion and replace it with magnesium oil, the emulsion fails. I've wasted so much product, and I'm ready to give up after many failed attempts. I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Thank you for your channel, and God bless.
The magnesium oil is 50/50 by weight, magnesium chloride flakes and distilled water
Please what could be the cause of a lotion,especially a hair conditioner to be airy? After mixing and leaving the mixture I see tiny bubbles but when I touch it,it smoothens out.
In Nigeria,Lagos especially the emulsifiers don't come with recommended usage because where I purchase them its been measured in a nylon because I buy little for experiments and that's all.
I make use of BTMS 50,Cetyl achol and glceryl stearate. 2%:1%:1%.
When it is airy, it shows it is not stable. Your emulsifier use is not enough. You need to contact your supplier for recommended usage rate.
Another cause of airy emulsion is when use an immersion blender. It will pump in a lot of air into your emulsion. I recommend you learn cosmetic formulation. That is the first place to start. It will eliminate trial and error that results in waste.
Take care.
Thank you very much.
You are welcome
Question:
I made a great emulsifier but it’s a little hard to be spread on the body I would say it’s good for hands but not body
So what am I missing?
Check your formula. May be it is not properly balanced. Everything must add up to 100% with the appropriate proportion of all ingredients.
For lotion, use emulsifier up to 5%.
For cream (thicker emulsions) use from 7 to 10%.
Thank you.
Thanks so much, this helped when my lotion didn’t emulsify. I accidentally messed up my measurements and didn’t add enough emulsifier. Immediately as the oil and water combined I noticed the difference. Luckily it was still hot so a placed in a double boiler with the e-wax and oil. Worked perfectly.
@Shanelle Foster. You are welcome. I'm glad this worked for you. Happy formulating. Keep trying different combination of oils and botanical extracts. This will greatly help your formulation skill.
Please what can i do my separated Base cream after adding glycolic acid more i stir the more it gets melting please what can i do please answer me
You should follow the instruction from the manufacturer of your base cream. May be glycolic acid is not compatible with some of the ingredients in the base cream. Ask the manufacturer this question.
Glycolic acid is a sensitive ingredients. If the pH is not properly adjusted it will separate.
Knowledgeable mam, i have doubt that how to calculate waxes for creams if we want to make cream with 50%waxes n 50%polymer. At that time should we take 3%wax, 1%fatty alcohol n Sepimax zen 1.5% for creams.. ll it work mam.
Thank u so much mam.
I tried to make magnesium lotion. It came out more like a paste. Then when I scoop to put in the jar, the water separates. Can you give a calculation to help me fix this? I mainly use mango butter or coco butter, Appleseed or olive oil and local beeswax
I am having this issue right now and so I’m looking on here for a solution. Did you find anything that worked?
Hi. I wonder if using a normal hand mixer can cause the lotion to seperate?
No. The major cause of separation is your ingredient selection and usage rate.
very hard to read upside down. I will keep watching. I make my creams all the time but sometimes my supplier sends me cream base and other times a lotion base which I understand has more water in it
Do you heat the existing (separated) lotion a little before adding the extra oil and emulsifier lotion?
heat it slightly
I've been trying to make a leave in conditioner with btms 25 with my oil phase being over 12% i find that my product doesnt feel stable it has tiny bubbles in it which I think is oil drops. I've been considering adding 2% cetyl alcohol to stabilise it, do you think this could work?
How many % of BTMS 25 did you use.
The recommended usage rate is 1 to 8%
What if the lotion has bubbles
Bubbles is a sign of contamination.
I know this video on lotion but my question is about hair conditioner, I made a conditioner and everything was going well until I added the preservative then my lotion broke down and turn watery ...my preservative was sitting in a hot room and I was wondering can that destroy it and make it act in this way
Your preservative is not compatible with some items in your formulation. Another issue is excessive usage of preservative.
@@greenbeautychemist. Okay, Thank you
I use a fatty alcohol and an e-wax at 4% and I’m getting separation. It wasn’t doing that for a whole year now I’m having that issue.
Your process may be the problem or your preservative
I only used Shea butter and glycerin but it separated. They are both oil so why did it separate? What natural emulsifier can I use?
If you don't use any emulsifier it will not turn into an emulsion. Try Olivem 1000 or Emulsifying Wax
Natural Skincare School please which one is natural because I don’t want to have any preservatives.
Natural Skincare School I was using arrowroot powder, will that work?
If you don't want any preservative ensure you keep it in the fridge to protect your skin from mold,yeast and bacteria
Arrowroot powder is not an emulsifier, it is a thickener. It won't work. You need an emulsifier to make a lotion or cream.
I have also formulated my lotion but in the end it’s separated. I don’t know what to do again . But hv putting it into bottles
Thats what just happened to me .pls how can i fix a watery promixed lotion can i add organic base cream to a promixed lotion so it can emulsify
What caused the separation?
I emulsified using btms 50 @ 7% for a body butter . It didn’t emulsify😭. Should i increase the percentage of btms 50?
You need to look at the percentage of your other ingredients. Your oil phase ingredients may be too high.
Formulation support is reserved for My students at stablecosmeticformulas.com
@@greenbeautychemist. noted thank you
I used 5 percent of lotion pro and 2 percent of cetyl alcohol and it refuse to thicken.
I don't give formulation support on this channel.
I had enough emulsifier, it was 5%. The water phase (including sodium lactate) was 76% while the oil phase(incliding kojic dip) was 19.5%. It didn't emulsify.
The previous one I did was 78% water, 17% oil and 4% emulsifying wax. It turned out great. So what was the problem with this 76% formula?
Did you use a precision or electronic balance scale?. Did you heat the oil phase and water phase to 80-83C? that may be the cause of it not emulsifying. What type of emulsifier did you use. Some emulsifier will not work if you didn't heat both phases to at least 80C. Get a thermostatic water bath and set the temp to 83C.
@@greenbeautychemist. Thank you. I heat both phases to 75C and my scale isn't electronic, i guess I should change it.
Invest in a OHAUS Scout SPX scale and use the heat recommendation I gave earlier on. Take care. There are some video recommendations on the channel. Take care.