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Agreed, I feel like it's such a great way at characterizing him. Shows how he is a sketchy con artist, but really DOES genuinely love and care about those close to him, and would never (intentionally) hurt them
The interpretation of “Mabel reminds Ford of Stanley, therefore he hates her” is infinitely less interesting and show accurate than “Mabel reminds Ford of young Stanley, therefore he is very fond of her” She is a mini Stan! The Stan he doesn’t have conflicting feelings about, the one he promised to sail the world with and wholeheartedly meant it, when things where simple and the future looked bright, a Stan before the science fair.
@@matti.8465 oh for sure, they both have their knee jerk reaction to the bizarre be unfiltered amazement, caution thrown out the window, they both dated mermaids!
@@theonewhoknows4978 i saw someone point out that Dipper has Stan's cynic realism and Ford's calculated mind, while Mabel has Stan's extroverted personality and Ford's wide-eyed optimism
@@PitofTrogness That’s it! That’s who they are! I would honestly have loved if we got to see Dipper’s hero worship of Ford fade enough to realise “oh, Grunkle Ford is the insane one” while he and Stan try to keep their siblings from endangering themselves recklessly.
The idea that Ford, for entirely incomprehensible reasons, just decided to torture a Gnome one day until he broke its mind is genuinely hilarious. Why would he do that.
@@plushcentric to be fair he did spend 30 years hopping between dimensions, and a good part of that was probably spent in the Nightmare Realm, so his views on reality are a little screwed up
the argument section: i LOVE the line "i have a mullet stanford!" so much. because yeah to stanford it's such a nothing statement as you clearly said but to stan it's everything. i've been where stan is. i know that feeling. i know what it's like to have dirty, matted hair that's clining to your neck making you feel gross, ugly, and unclean. stan isn't saying "i have ugly hair." he's saying "i can't cut/clean/brush" my hair. he's saying "i'm lucky if that motel had a shower." he's saying *"i'm homeless and living out of my car"* and that point is ILLISTRATED by stan's next line pointing out that ford is living in 3 story house THAT WAS CUSTOM BUILT FOR HIM. sure ford is going crazy because he built some magic protal or whatever but he has never worried about where he's going to sleep(only if he'll sleep ;) ) or if he can get food today or when he'll have access to running water. the mullet is EVEYRTHING to me.
Couldn't it also be a metaphor for their lives? Stan tries to seem trustworthy in order to get his way but deep down he has a lot of issues (business in the front party on the back) Meanwhile ford has been given most of his opportunities in a silver platter but unnecessarily focuses on things that don't bring him happiness
Do you ever think about how Ford missed 9/11? That's gonna be really weird for him while he simultaneously notices how intense the airport security has gotten and finds out he's on the no-fly list.
Something that always stuck with me is how Stanley while creative and crafty, didn't even graduate high school and only made as far as he did by copying Ford's school work. Stan thought of himself as the dumb twin. But Stan still spent *30 years* studying and learning from the Journals and actually managed to quickly fix the machine once he got all 3 journals and the secret black light messages. And I remember being so proud with Stan because in a way he showed that he was more book smart than anyone gave him credit for, including himself. Basically I want Dipper and Ford to be talking complete nerd stuff and for Stan to completely understand and respond, shocking everyone listening lol.
we do not need a gravity falls revival or new story movie, we just need an hour+ extended cut of a tale of two stans with all the stuff they couldnt condense down
@sagaevan9641 Why not get the Grunkles on Sea spinoff Alex said he could imagine doin one day after his netflix deal is over; there we could get all that infor they couldn't include ^^
@@platina1502YES! That’s what I’ve been saying for YEARS! Screw some third season that would be mediocre at best, I want to watch a spin-off of those two rekindle their past relationship.
no joke, that is the whole reason my friends also watched the video when i posted it in the chat. It's not even a Gravity Falls server, no one has ever expressed interest in the show. Everyone just saw the thumbnail, then the run time, and went "yep, this'll be a good one" (and it was, i drew a fucking HORSE listening to this)
fords definetley pulling a dipper "i am pretending to write something down" in journal 1 and if we get journal 1 as a book one day and i dont see a page with that i will riot
Hearing both stanley and stanford do the "what are you waiting for? a kiss on the cheek?" makes me imagine their father saying that either to them or a customer or something
Funny when I think about the mystery of who the author was, I can't help but think of how much the clues were scattered throughout the show to where it looks obvious. The mystery shack was the author's old house but renovated into a tourist trap, the hidden room with the body swap carpet was fords old experiment, and the portal underneath the mystery shack heck the townspeople knew who the author was but really only knew him as the local weirdo who kept to himself until his brother took his place. This whole time Dipper has been closer to the truth than he realized (he was living in the renovated house of the author). When I think back to why Gideon wanted the journals confused me. He thought that having the journals close to each other would open the gateway to ''unimaginable power'', even if he did get the journals, he didn't have the portal like stan did, all he would have been the codes and full illustrations of the portal (wouldn't surprise me that he didn't even know about the portal since he skimming the monster sections and not about the author's occasional exposition about his life). Gideon and Dipper did elevate the author of the journals to almost mythical status, assuming that he was an extraordinary genius with vast, almost supernatural ambitions. This perception was built on the mysterious nature of the journals themselves, which were filled with incredible knowledge about the paranormal and the unexplained phenomena of Gravity Falls. When the author was revealed to be Stanford Pines, or "Ford," he turned out to be more of an ordinary man with an academic background-a genius in his own right, but still very human. Ford is a brilliant scientist and inventor with a PhD, but his goals were rooted in curiosity and a genuine desire to understand the mysteries of the universe, not in the pursuit of power or grandeur. This contrast between the perception of the author and the reality of Ford's character adds a layer of complexity to the story. Sorry for the long comment😅😉
@@Cottencandycat987 I know right, Dipper started writing in it (not knowing there is invisible ink in a couple of blank pages) instead of getting his own journal to write in. I was p*ssed when Dipper started writing in it with his 12-year-old handwriting in what was essentially (what I interpreted from the first episode since I did not know how old the journal was) a 19th-century work of art that was barely keeping itself together from years of neglect. I wish Dipper had made copies of the pages in case the worst had happened. I'm amazed the journal managed to hold itself together with the amount of physical abuse it absorbed (The journal has been dropped, tossed, and squished multiple times in various episodes, usually during chases or action sequences. Journal 3 gets soaked in water during a confrontation in the bunker etc)
@@SebastienGendron-uk4po honestly if ford wasnt happy that he now has a little helper/student type or if what Dipper wrote down wasn't that helpful or just kinda ruined his book he'd be absolutely pissed so luckily Dipper is almost exactly like him adding good bits rather than only dairy like stuff over the important knowledge
@@Cottencandycat987 I see your point. But if my handwriting was inferior to elegant calligraphy I wouldn't bother writing in the same book. I don't care if Dipper adds extra information as long as it's, not the 30-year-old original journal that looks like it could crumble from physical abuse (he could have made copies of each page and created his own journal with as many blank pages as he wants. Dipper is lucky the author just so happens to be related to him) Ford's handwriting is a blend of an elegant, old-fashioned script with a touch of scientific precision, which matches his intellectual and meticulous nature. The letters are neatly formed, with flowing curves and a slightly slanted style typical of traditional calligraphy, evoking a sense of care and artistry in every word. This beautiful, almost timeless handwriting, combined with the worn, stained pages of the journal, does give the impression that the work could be from the 19th century. The style adds to the sense that the journal is a carefully crafted, long-lost artifact, passed down through generations or hidden away for decades. Ford's handwriting stands in stark contrast to Dipper's less refined, youthful scrawl, further reinforcing the idea of the journal being something ancient and delicate, deserving of careful preservation. Dipper was lucky he didn't write over the invisible ink parts of the blank pages. Sorry for the long comment
3:41:40 the dollar bill being replaced with a picture o Dipper and Mabel and having Soos as the employee of the year instead of himself literally made me cry. We knew that Stan would move mountains just for his family but this detail is just so sincere and precious
Good eye, when we look at the earlier episodes, it makes it sad that stan painted his little boat as ''stan O war'' in memory of his brother and genuinely wanted to spend time with Dipper and Mabel because he sees their relationship as a reflection of his past. Let's be honest, parents aside did stan really want to take care of two kids while he was running the mystery shack and at the same time trying to make the portal work, the summer was more for stan to kick back and relax with his great-niece and great-nephew (he's been estranged from his family long enough that they think ''Stanley pines'' is dead) and to reminisce about his past while watching Dipper and Mabel's relationship with envy because at the back of his mind, he probably assumes Ford is dead.
The reason that one bully was so existential to the boys when they were kids is because he was an 8th grader. I don't know what it is but there's a skill tree unlocked only at 8th grade for some advanced bullying techniques.
Kids going through puberty and school adding more stress on top of that. I mean when there's a numerical system where you can tell how much of a failure a kid is, and not be able to help these kids when it comes to their frustration and anger, they're gonna lash it out wherever.
The most interesting thing about McGucket is that he stayed in Gravity Falls. He wasn't a native. He had a nice home with a wife and kid waiting for him. And yet, when he saw what was on the other side of the portal, when he fought with Ford, when he stormed out and said he was done with it all... he still stayed. Maybe he felt so changed that he couldn't go back home, maybe he thought Ford would come around, idk. And his son! His son, who sees him as an embarrassment and avoids him, came! He came to Gravity Falls! Why? To reconnect? To take care of McGucket? Who knows! But he came, and like his father, he stayed! He avoids his father but he doesn't just leave him behind and go back home?? Ugh, these characters are so interesting.
Very true, it always struck me as weird that his son came to Gravity Falls despite no mention of Mcgucket bringing his family along when he came to Gravity Falls to help Ford. Considering we never see Mcgucket's wife maybe she died at some point during those 30 years (after raising their son presumably) and after that his Son moved to GF to be somewhat close with his remaining family, but after moving he realized Mcgucket was too far gone and simply went on with life knowing his Dad was "okay" and occasionally seeing him but never being willing to actually hang out with him
@@theleonpasta7336I believe it’s revealed in the gobblewonker episode that McGucket got divorced, and then proceeded to terrorize his ex wife via killer robot.
I can't help but see Stan angrily walking into the science fair while eating toffee peanuts as an allegory to someone getting drunk and acting recklessly out of anger.
I think what Stan was worried about was... Why would Ford ever come back for his loser brother and his abusive parents? Especially from Really Cool Science School? Like, the principal said it: at least ONE of your kids will be stuck in New Jersey forever. Ford was gonna BE someone. Someone doesn't come back for his nobody brother when he has cool nerd friends just like him. Yeah, neither was gonna die... But the relationship of the two of them being there for each other always was gonna fade away and they BOTH knew it.
Okay for what happened to Ford's pet Axolotl; imagine Stan is out fishing in his bargain bin Stan O' War, he lost his brother a few years ago, when suddenly he sees this little Axolotl that looks a lot like Ford did, Frilliam also recognizes Stan's face, so it's basically "hey little guy you look kinda like my brother, I do have that tank at the shack, come with me then little one" and Frilliam is just like "damn Ford you let yourself go, but sure, whatever!"
To me the whole tragedy of this episode and the Stans in general was that you can't really blame neither of them. There's always another point of view, another thing to track back. You can't point fingers because both their feelings are valid and both of them are at fault. I'm somehow of a newcomer in the fandom (I watched it growing up but never interacted with the community) and the way people talk about the fight and pick sides really pisses me of. It feels downright purposely misread. It's such a complex situation. I may have a favoritism for Stanley, just because I see myself a little more in him, but villanizing Ford for wanting his own life is crazy. They both clearly love each other, and I hate how the fandom talks about it.
They're definitely both at fault, but that doesn't mean you can't pick sides, I'd say Stan is much more in the right here even if he does share a lot of the blame
@@crypt5129 i can see where you're coming from, but you can be mad at one of them and still understand where they are coming from and the psycology behind their actions. The way I see people talk about it is villanize one to uplift the other. If one of them is the clear "bad guy" then the point of the story is lost, at least to me.
@@Mara-mm5zeand you need to remember that everyone is not you. There is no way everyone else is going to see it exactly from your point of view. You can believe what you want, but there are thousands of other people watching who have different lives and understandings than you.
@@Mara-mm5ze I entirely agree, I just don't think siding with one of them is necessarily doing that, but ig that's more a disagreement in how we'd term things rather than an actual disagreement
3:05:43 one theory ive heard is that based on TBOB info that bill can possess corpses, ford was paranoid that bill might've been watching through the skeleton
bill clearly states he only possesses things that have neurons in them, tho. he could be lying OF COURSE, but... idk, makes sense for me, especially knowing that corpses still have brains in them. (which cant be argued, because, well, that was what ford was going to still from it anyway) so i feel like this skeleton thing is just, well... a way to illustrate "dont trust anyone"
That makes total sense. If Bill can posses anything with neurons, includind fragments of a brain since he can possess paper made with brains, then it is completely within the rules. And since he reveals that neuron rule only after his death Ford in the 80's was using the skull to study which parts of the head does Bill need to control someone
@@x1ere even still, ford has no idea whether that's true or not so it's better to be careful. that's probably what the electrodes on the dino are for, to alert him if they report any brain activity
Don’t know if anyone’s said this already, but I think the bag Filbrick throws at Stan could have been a bag Stan had packed for the Stan o’ War adventure. Maybe he’s had it ready to go for years. I think it’s also poetic that a bag representing his hopes and dreams is thrown in his face and taken with him on a different adventure, much grimmer and more lonely than the one he had in mind.
I like how “a place where weirdos like me fit in” neatly parallels bills offer to take Ford in, “With that extra finger, you’d fit right in with my freaks!”
38:12 i like to imagine ford broke a bone or something and went for x-rays and the guy doing the x-rays was just new and had never seen them before and was just IMMENSELY fascinated and was like “hold on can we get extra x-rays of your hands just for fun?”
Ford: "Wouldn't that give me cancer" Doctor: *puffing a cigar* "Nah, these machines are made with asbestos, perfectly healthy for a young lad like you."
I grew up in a city with a bunch of tunnels underground that were previously used for ammo storage for the military. Someone opened an arcade, mini golf course, rock wall and laser tag course down there but there was still a LOT of graffiti from bygone times and most of it was just like "SENIOR PRANK" or "INITIALS WAS HERE". Such a place deserved more cryptic graffiti if you ask me.
@@jainebutters7891 nah i think I can say, it was Atchison Kansas. Unfortunately last I heard, that arcade went bankrupt and now the tunnels are owned by some rich guy who stores his car collection down there
YOu don't bring much attention to this but I both love and hate how Ford weaponizes the Stan O' War in his argument. He opens the conversation with what seems like an invitation, "Hey dude remember our promise to each other to be together forever in spite of the world? Do that but without the most fundamental part." Like Ford seems to have forgotten why they needed the boat, that he thinks it was just sailing and not being with each other. I also love how Simmons utilizes the higher register when Stan gets burned on the whatevermajig, like for a brief moment the old, young Ford is shining through, the ford who would do anything to help his brother. The second he sees he's actually fighting his brother, the 17 years of friendship finally pushing through the one moment of divergence, he wants to take it all back, he sounds like a child. Same with Hirsch when Ford falls through the portal and Stan is trying to turn it back on, actual consequences of them fighting have Arrived and the child in Stan wants nothing more than to undo it.
An x-ray for people with polydactyly is actually fairly common. The abnormality may actually not be the finger itself, but rather the amount of bones within it, as well as the fact it appears to be fully functional.
About Ford going to Backup's More instead of a better college, a theory I like a lot is that after Stan was kicked out, Ford fell into depression and just lost interest at anything and stopped attending to school or stop paying attention to classes and so he ended up with bad grades, or not good enough grades to get a scholarship to a good or even average college, so he ended up in the only college his family could afford.
I like the idea of this, however, this theory’s kind of contradicted by that fact that Ford was still able to graduate as valedictorian of his class in high school. I think that the more likely scenario is that Ford was so set on attending West Coast Tech, that he failed to consider any other reputable colleges as alternatives, & thus, got stuck with Backupsmore.
As much as this would've made sense, Ford's enthusiasm and determination to get himself into a grant kind of undermines that. If he genuinely did got through depression after losing his brother, he wouldn't exactly be motivated to continue his studies himself. It can be possible though, I just personally think it's not that possible.
Kind of a small thing but I like that even when homeless Stan isn't skinny and actively seems to be at his heaviest. Gaining weight isn't just about how much you eat but also what you eat and Stan wouldn't have the means to be eating healthy at this point, I mean he's probably living mostly off cheap junk food and whatever restaurant he thinks he could reasonably dine and dash at and it shows. Meat and fresh produce is also pretty expensive and Stan wouldn't have the luxury at this point to choose quality over quantity, plus he wouldn't have a refrigerator living out of his car so any food he does get would have to be able to last without that. I just like the representation of a character not getting enough to eat while still being overweight.
I gained 100 pounds while homeless. You know what's cheap, can be made with only a microwave, and doesn't need to be refrigerated? not a balanced diet. more like 4 packages of ramen and a bag of chips a day, plus one "better" meal a week from any of various sources (mostly someone picking up burger king, but about twice a year a bunch of people would pitch in for this guy to make everyone a low country boil to share). Also, soda was cheaper than bottled water which didn't help either. and living out of his car, stan wouldn't have even had the microwave option like i did. he's just got burger king and chips (and maybe based on him trying to buy only a loaf of bread,, he just ate bread straight up? just plain? but maybe there was jelly at the shack still or something. i imagine he'd eat peanut butter straight from the container, but ive tried to eat just jelly alone and it's not. something im physically capable of personally.)
My theory is that it's really delicate, seeing as how Stan broke it that easily. Every time Ford tried to fix it, it would break further. Maybe he couldn't replicate it because he lost the blueprints or a one-of-a-kind part that was stolen by Blendin.
I choose the headcanon that it's not an animation error, it's Stan's desperation to get his brother back breaking the universe. ........in the form of an animation error
3:25:53 I NEED this fic now, or an animation. one of them tackles the other to the floor. flash of light. mildly disoriented, they get up and start fighting again before they even notice they've swapped places before stan-as-ford goes "wait these knuckles aren't broken the same way. these are more knuckles than I normally have." and ford-as-stan pauses to sniff himself and go "EUGH"
3:45:11 a little off topic, but i think it’s very interesting that Ford is upset that mabel and dipper were intended to stay with him (but couldnt . For obvious reasons), but he seems largely apathetic to the fact that the things filbrick intended Ford to have (fez, suit) went to Stan. Idk it just feels like Ford distanced himself from his parents (mainly filbrick) and now couldnt give less of a care of anything connected to him. Like he’s very protective of what’s his and is intended to be his. He rambles about what happened to his house and his various possessions in J3 and mentions it more than once in the show. The fact he’s very insistent on his house, is very obviously bitter on the relationship with Mabel and dipper he had missed out on up until that point, but something like his fathers fez and suit (STRICTLY intended for him, the latter he mentioned wanting to wear to receive some grand award) not really bothering him in the slightest (hell not even mentioning that he wants it back or that he begrudgingly lets stan have it or anything along those lines) is very interesting characterization to me. The fact we DO see ford with the outfit intended for him in the last episode, but he instantly takes off the fez the second he doesn’t need to wear it anymore kinda adds to it In a weird way. I’m definitely reading too much into this little detail but i thought it was worth noting
2:01:30 I’d argue that almost all of Stan’s clear not Ford-ness and the Town’s acceptance of that can be explained by Stan’s existence as a Grieving Twin. In world obviously Stanley constructs the lie that Stanley died in a Car Crash & Stanford is still around, but either Stan dying at all reveals both identities as Twins, and even without knowing a person intimately you know that loss is horrific, loss changes people, especially loss of family members even if those family members where estranged. “Stanford’s” insane switch of personality is really easily explained as a Grieving Twin, and it’s not even a wrong assumption as Stanley is still a grieving twin regardless of the lie
From experience, when your only support has been a single person and they betray you somehow, you lose your mind a little. Your reality is literally broken.
My personal headcanon is that what Ford invented was a breakthrough, but wasn’t actually a perpetual motion machine; that’s just Stan’s vague memory. Considering it’s never brought up verbally, (at least in the show, sry if it’s mentioned in the books and I wasted ur time) this just makes logical sense, while the alternative doesn’t
4:05:57 (Charlie Kelly Pepe Silvia posing) Okay but can we talk about the beds. It's been 9 years and I just realized this about the beds and it's making me crazy. Stan and Ford have a bunk bed growing up. Stan is on the bottom bunk, which aligns with his fear of heights. But it also perfectly encapsulates the hierarchy going on, with Ford the golden child on top, his head in the clouds, and Stan on bottom, literally in his brother's shadow. But he's okay with that; it's a comforting shelter from the realities of growing up. When that shelter is ripped away he doesn't know what to do. Meanwhile, Dipper and Mabel have adjacent beds on equal ground. Beds where they can look each other in the face and have a conversation. It's such a beautiful visual representation of the different levels of communication skills each set of twins have.
it hides his grey streak too so they can pull off the twin switch later (part of me feels like its a shame they immediately go back to his regular design afterwards tho)
14:10 There's an interesting detail here that isn't mentioned. When young Stan & Ford are writing their names on the cave wall, Ford signs his first name using his usual cursive handwriting, but writes their last name with all-caps block letters that match closer to how Stan signs _his_ first name; additionally, the camera cuts to only show Ford writing in the last name. This makes it look as though _Ford_ was the one who wrote in the name "Stanley". Rather than being an error, this is intended, I believe, to delay the reveal of Stan having taken Ford's identity until the intended point in the episode, by making it temporarily appear as though "Stanley" is the name of the Author-twin, rather than "Stanford".
Not sure if this was intended but if you compare the handwriting, it turns out Ford's CAPITAL LETTER font he uses in the journal sometimes is actually the same as Stan's font (and that goes for the font used to quote Bill in the lost journal pages too). So ironically Ford can forge Stan's handwriting perfectly
@@inorexablechaos1139 idk how it happened, my dad did not teach me how to write or anything, and my handwriting (like most people's i think?) has changed a lot over the years anyway, but my dad still has a paper grocery list that's kept on the wall, and people regularly mistake items i've put on there as my dad's handwriting. once my sister and i were convening at the list the night before grocery day and my sister goes, "why did dad write down nutty buddies? there haven't been nutty buddies in this house in the time we've been alive, why does he suddenly want them?" and i had to tell her that i was the one who wanted nutty buddies.
34:02 now I have this idea that hot Belgian waffles had some kind of commercial where people used it as a replacement swear that was like “everyone swears that hot Belgian waffles has the best waffles this side of the lead paint district! So come, try the waffles that everyone swears on” and it became a meme in the town similar to “where’s the beef”
let's be honest with ourselves: Ford could've totally made it as an artist with how realistically (for his dimension) he's able to draw EVERYTHING that he does. Also Dipper to? Idk I haven't seen his pages in the book in a while.
I’ve always been confused as to how Ford couldn’t just fix or make a new perpetual motion machine? Like surely he had blueprints and designs and things. Great video Hana!!
The way I justify it to myself is that things take a while to troubleshoot and figure out what went wrong and those admissions committee ppl were busy. Also dude probably got blacklisted or smthn since west coast tech is highly reputable in the gf universe so I bet they wouldn’t even hear him out if he called and was like “I fixed it come back!!”
3:05:29 Bill has been shown in Sock Opera to be capable of possessing inanimate objects, but is explained further in Book of Bill that Bill can possess anything as long as it has a neuron. It’s later shown in the book that Bill can possess corpses, which Ford witnesses while on a trip to the Valentino’s funeral home. So Ford turning the skeleton is likely a trauma response or at least his paranoia and anxiety telling him to make extra sure Bill isn’t watching.
I WAS JUST BINGING YOUR WHOLE CHANNEL LAST NIGHT AND WENT "aw man im running out of hana hyperfixates content what will i do with my life" AND THE GODS SMILED UPON ME AND SAID "FEAR NOT CHILD FOR THOU NEED NOT A LIFE BUT ONLY UA-cam" AND BLESSED ME WITH 4 HOUR LONG VIDEO ESSAY
2:44:38 this very fact is what I think makes Mabel so important to breaking the cycle with Dipper, having a good sister made him more open to communication and they both avoid letting defensive anger mislead them.
part of me wonders if part of the reason Stanford went to Backupsmore is cause it's the only college he could see his brother maybe getting into. Stan wasn't keeping in touch with his family (for obvious reasons) and how he left probably left a bitter taste in Ford's mouth. As upset as he was, and probably still was, about Stan breaking his machine, accident or not, he still likely missed his brother. So, in a desperate attempt to hopefully find him, he goes to a college who's tagline is literally "Everyone is welcome here!" hoping that included his brother, unaware that at this point Stan was like halfway across the country.
Combining this with @hobbesthetiger comment I read above, both brothers had their own parallel solo adventures hoping to run into each other on the way but only getting further apart. But that’s a way more depressing read LMFAO
Combining this with @hobbesthetiger comment I read above, both brothers had their own parallel solo adventures hoping to run into each other on the way but only getting further apart. But that’s a way more depressing read LMFAO
As someone who’s about to enter the animation industry (and who has idolized Alex Hirsch’s work my whole life), my absolute favorite thing about this video is how you point out every single animation error, inconsistency, and “sloppy” mistake, but in a lighthearted, understanding kinda way. It makes my aspirations as a storyteller feel so much more attainable! To know this incredible show has stupid little production flaws/confusing retcons, AND that a fan as diehard as this is generally accepting of them… it just makes me relax a little about pursuing my own tv show development goals
I am living for the "Stanford Pines did Many things wrong and looked So Sexy while doing it" energy. Gravity Falls fans who openly love Mabel AND Ford are braver than any US Marine. We are cut from the same cloth my friend
1:58:28 This is also shown in The Book of Bill! It shows a picture of the Stans as babies with a mobile of basic geometric shapes above them, and Ford reaches specifically for the one yellow triangle
It's insane that McGucket had a wife and a little son, and one day just "temporarily" left them and never went back. Just stayed in Roadkill County, Oregon, where he gradually lost his mind. At least he kept contact with his son.
I’m only 21 seconds in and the “Does Stan have a cousin????” red arrow pointing at Ford sent me into a minutes-long laughing fit. Oh my god, I don’t know why that hit me so hard, but I’m psyched to keep watching!
Just finished the video and it was incredible! I wasn’t too active in the fanbase back when the show was airing, so it’s always really fascinating to hear about what the fandom was up to. Though I admit, I did wind up buying into the theory about Dipper’s eyes in Not What He Seems xD I also really enjoy all the analysis you do into body language and expressions. As someone who regularly watches shows frame-by-frame, I’ve always loved the amount of detail in this episode. One of my favorite bits is a subtle moment during Mabel’s “hug it out” scene (1:27:30). The first time she suggests it, Ford briefly stops writing and looks at Stan, as if he’s gauging Stan’s receptiveness to the idea. Stan doesn’t react and so after a beat, Ford goes back to scribbling while Mabel repeats herself. I have no idea what Ford would do if Stan actually did try to hug it out, but that tiny moment makes the whole scene for me.
As an identical twin, the most realistic thing was the secretary calling both of them when only one was needed. I've had teachers give up and just call us both "twinny" or pull us both into detention because they couldn't remember which one got in trouble
I think Ford would not enjoy exercise as PE class puts it, but something like boxing where theres no grade and he's just bettering himself and his body and mind and like, reading his opponent, he would enjoy
Unfortunately for you, you did forget a detail and it's that the punch drenching at prom parallels when Dipper shaved his head to match Mabel I do gotta say tho, regardless of whatever small details you did a great job with this video. Makes me want to overanalyze this one scene from this one finale from this one show I like (whether I actually get to that is a whole other story)
I remember the french transaction, and i might be remembering wrong, Stanley says his father didn't expect twins and named them both Stan cause he couldn't be bothered to come up with two names
yeah there was a rhyme in english too which went along the lines of "a stubbon [something] jersey native, filbrick wasn't too creative. having twins was not the plan, so he just shrugged and named both stan."
as a virginia resident, on my last visit to luray caverns i made sure to scrawl “you are currently in virginia” on the cave walls just so no one was confused!
Honestly I'm kinda surprised they let all that punching fly on Disney, like ATLA wasn't allowed to have straight up punching on Nick, so to think Disney actually had less censorship is wild. Honestly Gravity Falls got away with SO much it's insane (like calling the Mystery Shack the MURDER HUT even just once for a bit)
Tbf wasn’t most of gravity falls run on Disney XD? Disney XD was aimed at tween/teen boys mainly ages 10-16 and most of its shows such as kickin it had fighting as their main plot lines.
the funniest answer for the "maps of where stan's been to/banned from being different" thing is just that they heard of him and decided "nah, not dealing with it" and banned him pre-emptively. which, as you noted, would also make the "you dont just get banned from states legally" argument make more sense. they just ran a news report saying he was banned or smth and by some miracle of luck, he always managed to hear it and didnt bother even trying
AHH this whole part at 1:58:13! I remember losing my mind a little bit at that one photo of Ford as a baby in the book of bill where he’s staring in awe at a yellow triangle in the baby mobile above his crib. Love that it’s an expression of amazement too, as that foreshadowed how he was oblivious to bill’s intentions
I love videos like this, so unbelievably in depth that skipping through it can lead to some unhinged out of context moments. Such as hearing about how cute the Pines twins are as kids then skipping forward and hearing an explanation of the Vietnam draft lmao
“How much crime can you really get into in Rhode Island” 1:53:06 I’m howling 😂 you should look up Buddy Cianci and the Patriarca family. Stan probably didn’t go to Rhode Island because he knew better.
something I always notice in that fight is when Ford pushes Stan and he gets branded, the way Ford says "Oh my gosh!" sounds just like the way Dipper says it (he does it after hitting Wendy in the eye with a baseball and I think in other places in the series but that's the one I can remember off the top of my head.) Ford and Dipper are alike in the way they react to hurting someone else is the same, and if he's not careful Dipper could end up like Ford.
Respondo en español porque mi inglés no es bueno al escribir. Aunque Dipper si tiene parecido a Ford e incluso a Filbrick superficialmente, él se parece muchísimo más a Stan en cuanto a valores fundamentales
As someone who just started college again- I can’t wait to find 4 hours where I can just sit and do nothing except watch you talk about my favorite episode of Gravity Falls in excruciating detail. Thank you Hana-
as someone who recently returned to college and doesn't have time to watch a 4 hour analysis of one kids show episode i'm glad that i'm ignoring everything else i have to do to watch this!
I do have to ask: When's the 6 hour video essay analyzing Bill Cipher as a character, complete with overanalysis of his appearances and mentions in the series, Journal 3 The Book, Hirsch's In-character AMAs, an analysis of the history and Themes of Flatland, and a comprehensive book report about The Book of Bill. (Joking, of course..... maybe)
I like to think Ford never rebuilt the perpetual motion machine because he just genuinely didn't care to improve humanity in that kinda way. Like, he's always been concerned most with weirdness, and so somethin that seems that big for general science just wasn't super important to him. It was just an early step in a different journey. He does want to make a big deal in the science community, but he's set on doing it in this one specific way to the point that he barely even registers that he already has made arguably the biggest scientific breakthrough ever.
stan and ford also parallel eachother in entertaining the mystery shack guests and lying to the agents. they even say “right” in the same way at the end of the spiel.
i just wanted to say as an artist who works from home and is insane about gravity falls this is a PERFECT video to put on in the background while i work thank you so much your analysis is UNMATCHED
Ok I have to admit something, I'm not fluent in english so I always thought that "gruncle" was a pun between grumpy and uncle, I never realised, even when I watched the show in french (my mother tongue) that Stan and Ford weren't the uncles of Dipper and Mable but instead they were their great uncle
Dude English is my first language, and it took me YEARS to realize it’s a combination of great and uncle, and not grandpa and uncle. My only guess was I was too young to question how those word combinations made any sense.
I'm about to have the best baking session of my life. Ok editing this as I go, "abolish prisons, except for me, right now. Put me in prison" is an amazing bit Okay I finally finished it. Only took me two days and countless numbers of distractions. Just got to say I'm so excited for the analysis of 2015 fandom culture and your defense of stanford, I feel like in my spaces of the fandom the conflict has leveled out to "yeah, Neither of them are perfect in the situation, but it's not really anyone's fault either." It's a complex situation where nobody was in a good headspace in like, pretty much any of these interactions. Kind of glad I skipped over the part of the fandom where Stanford was hated because I think I would get really sad . Come on he's literally just a boy. (He is 32 years old at the minimum)
1:49:40 To be fair- Ford was like legitimately losing his goddamn mind while writing book 3, if I was that sleep deprived and had a literal demon inside my head, I’d probably mislabel a few things too.
man I am so glad they didn’t go for the fighting for a girl plot lol, not only does it kind of suck but i am a gay ford truther (fidauthor is my roman empire)
will never understand ford haters btw like what was he supposed to do when stan got kicked out 😭 and his anger was definitely justified in the moment (talking abt fords anger btw not their dad)
@@reallyradrabbit i think the idea is that ford wasn't going to west coast tech anyway so he may as well have given up even trying to have a scientific career and gone straight on to the stan o'war
It's worth noting about the discrepancy between what Hirsch says about McGucket and the fact he created the blind eye society, os there anything contradicting the idea that it wasn't initially a cult but warped into that overtime? The way he describes it in the flashbacks makes it sound more like a voluntary thing when McGucket was in control
I sat through this whole thing, because I absolutely adore the passion you put into these deep dives, and because I have been both Ford and Stanley at multiple moments in my life with family. That's why it always crushes me when Ford doesn't thank Stanley and for all his trouble, he just gets told to get out of the house, he's just expected to pack up and leave despite all he did to try to make it up to Ford, he's expected to just go back to having nothing? It's a painful moment, but especially if you've been close to that point with a sibling. And Mabel, for once she has that sleepless night of worrying if she'll see her Grunkles be torn apart when she might've been the one to see that happen with her parents. And worrying about if growing up means growing apart. No matter how many times I binge watch Gravity Falls, that's always the part that gets me.
Note: A perpetual motion machine is not necessarily a free energy machine! Perpetual motion just means it doesn't need any additional energy to stay in motion. However, Stanford's machine is not inside a perfect vacuum, so perhaps it does generate electricity. And now I'm wondering if the energy you can collect for free from ambient radio waves (like, literal music radio) is enough to create such a device.
Are we gonna talk about how Stanley very clearly is not wearing glasses in his younger years. (Not helping his dylexia I'm sure). Only when he's reached a certain point, is he finally wearing them... I wonder how hard it must've been to getting used to seeing Ford's face again, but only in the mirror. Did he only put them on when he was walking out? Did he stare at them at night wondering where Ford's glasses were? Did he have that prescription for months before he literally started running into things? Did he only agree to finally wear glasses when there was no other option because it reminds him of the smarter twin?
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Slight correction: I say at one point that Stan hadn't been to Georgia in one map, though he was banned in another. I misspoke, but should have said South Carolina. I mixed them up on the map during the late filming.
And when I say he hasn't been through Arkansas?... no idea which state I really meant, my brain is mush.
It’s all good Hana you’re busy
hana this is the sixth time you've done this. please stop being neurodivergent and gay and go to sleep
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@@CA19 Fr Fr
shouting like karkat in this comment oh my god
Stan being a great con artist but also being unable to lie to his loved ones is SUCH a good snippet of his character. God I love him so much
Agreed, I feel like it's such a great way at characterizing him. Shows how he is a sketchy con artist, but really DOES genuinely love and care about those close to him, and would never (intentionally) hurt them
The interpretation of “Mabel reminds Ford of Stanley, therefore he hates her” is infinitely less interesting and show accurate than “Mabel reminds Ford of young Stanley, therefore he is very fond of her”
She is a mini Stan! The Stan he doesn’t have conflicting feelings about, the one he promised to sail the world with and wholeheartedly meant it, when things where simple and the future looked bright, a Stan before the science fair.
Also, Mabel also has a lot in common with Ford.
@@matti.8465 oh for sure, they both have their knee jerk reaction to the bizarre be unfiltered amazement, caution thrown out the window, they both dated mermaids!
@@theonewhoknows4978 i saw someone point out that Dipper has Stan's cynic realism and Ford's calculated mind, while Mabel has Stan's extroverted personality and Ford's wide-eyed optimism
mini stan :3
@@PitofTrogness That’s it! That’s who they are! I would honestly have loved if we got to see Dipper’s hero worship of Ford fade enough to realise “oh, Grunkle Ford is the insane one” while he and Stan try to keep their siblings from endangering themselves recklessly.
The idea that Ford, for entirely incomprehensible reasons, just decided to torture a Gnome one day until he broke its mind is genuinely hilarious. Why would he do that.
I mean he made a tie for Robald Regan's masters, who knows what he's capable of
He said Rudolph should've just killed the other reindeer for making fun of him. Ford isnt the most morally correct person
He was feeling silly
@@plushcentric to be fair he did spend 30 years hopping between dimensions, and a good part of that was probably spent in the Nightmare Realm, so his views on reality are a little screwed up
because he's a little freak ❤
the argument section:
i LOVE the line "i have a mullet stanford!" so much. because yeah to stanford it's such a nothing statement as you clearly said but to stan it's everything. i've been where stan is. i know that feeling. i know what it's like to have dirty, matted hair that's clining to your neck making you feel gross, ugly, and unclean.
stan isn't saying "i have ugly hair." he's saying "i can't cut/clean/brush" my hair. he's saying "i'm lucky if that motel had a shower." he's saying *"i'm homeless and living out of my car"*
and that point is ILLISTRATED by stan's next line pointing out that ford is living in 3 story house THAT WAS CUSTOM BUILT FOR HIM. sure ford is going crazy because he built some magic protal or whatever but he has never worried about where he's going to sleep(only if he'll sleep ;) ) or if he can get food today or when he'll have access to running water.
the mullet is EVEYRTHING to me.
Damm, thanks for your insight and sharing your experience, I hope you’re better
@@josefagomezschmeisser8356 yeah i'm doing much better! even learning how to manage and style my hair
i was thinking the same! thanks for making this comment and sharing your experience
Couldn't it also be a metaphor for their lives?
Stan tries to seem trustworthy in order to get his way but deep down he has a lot of issues (business in the front party on the back)
Meanwhile ford has been given most of his opportunities in a silver platter but unnecessarily focuses on things that don't bring him happiness
@@airplanes_aren.t_real i don't really understand this take (especially what you said about stan) but if that's your read more power to you
Do you ever think about how Ford missed 9/11? That's gonna be really weird for him while he simultaneously notices how intense the airport security has gotten and finds out he's on the no-fly list.
There are multiple fanfics about the Pines explaining what 9/11 was to Ford actually 😭
@@iatecielssoulsorrysebastian could you drop some names please, there are so many fanfics everyday and I don't know how to look for this kind of fic
ua-cam.com/video/NuFP2iuiOAs/v-deo.htmlsi=epkEotG_5dcRhRmD this is a narrated fic that I listened to today and it gave me quite a few giggles
I kid you not after finishinf this video i got recommended one called “ford learns about 9/11”
@@mothgirl0512I need to watch that
Something that always stuck with me is how Stanley while creative and crafty, didn't even graduate high school and only made as far as he did by copying Ford's school work. Stan thought of himself as the dumb twin.
But Stan still spent *30 years* studying and learning from the Journals and actually managed to quickly fix the machine once he got all 3 journals and the secret black light messages.
And I remember being so proud with Stan because in a way he showed that he was more book smart than anyone gave him credit for, including himself.
Basically I want Dipper and Ford to be talking complete nerd stuff and for Stan to completely understand and respond, shocking everyone listening lol.
To save his brother he did the thing he refused the most to do... LEARN!
we do not need a gravity falls revival or new story movie, we just need an hour+ extended cut of a tale of two stans with all the stuff they couldnt condense down
But what if...both?
@sagaevan9641 Why not get the Grunkles on Sea spinoff Alex said he could imagine doin one day after his netflix deal is over; there we could get all that infor they couldn't include ^^
I'd watch that in cinemas
@@platina1502YES! That’s what I’ve been saying for YEARS! Screw some third season that would be mediocre at best, I want to watch a spin-off of those two rekindle their past relationship.
And one more episode, about Wendy and nobody else. Have it replace the episode where Dipper becomes a womanizer.
I love that you called Fiddleford a twink because now I can't stop thinking of his descent into madness as "twink death" 😂
TWINK DEATH AND SEXY OLD MAN REBIRTH(joking as I don't find men attractive but you know)
I saw "this was meant to be 45 minutes" in the thumbnail and went "Well how much longer could it be?"
What a fool I was...
Almost 60 times that length
@@cartoonishidealism582you mean over 6 times that length? 60 is waaaaaaay longer 😂😭
The time stamp was in the corner.
no joke, that is the whole reason my friends also watched the video when i posted it in the chat. It's not even a Gravity Falls server, no one has ever expressed interest in the show. Everyone just saw the thumbnail, then the run time, and went "yep, this'll be a good one" (and it was, i drew a fucking HORSE listening to this)
I read that in the tune of how bad can I be 😭✋️
fords definetley pulling a dipper "i am pretending to write something down" in journal 1 and if we get journal 1 as a book one day and i dont see a page with that i will riot
The auto generated subtitles got the name hana wrong but got shmebulock right every single time.
the name that matters lol (also, accurate captions coming Monday)
Hearing both stanley and stanford do the "what are you waiting for? a kiss on the cheek?" makes me imagine their father saying that either to them or a customer or something
Makes sense
30:04 "Dipper is like 'You're the author of the Journal !' and Ford is like 'You read my diary ?'"
This is so accurate, lmao
Funny when I think about the mystery of who the author was, I can't help but think of how much the clues were scattered throughout the show to where it looks obvious. The mystery shack was the author's old house but renovated into a tourist trap, the hidden room with the body swap carpet was fords old experiment, and the portal underneath the mystery shack heck the townspeople knew who the author was but really only knew him as the local weirdo who kept to himself until his brother took his place. This whole time Dipper has been closer to the truth than he realized (he was living in the renovated house of the author). When I think back to why Gideon wanted the journals confused me. He thought that having the journals close to each other would open the gateway to ''unimaginable power'', even if he did get the journals, he didn't have the portal like stan did, all he would have been the codes and full illustrations of the portal (wouldn't surprise me that he didn't even know about the portal since he skimming the monster sections and not about the author's occasional exposition about his life). Gideon and Dipper did elevate the author of the journals to almost mythical status, assuming that he was an extraordinary genius with vast, almost supernatural ambitions. This perception was built on the mysterious nature of the journals themselves, which were filled with incredible knowledge about the paranormal and the unexplained phenomena of Gravity Falls. When the author was revealed to be Stanford Pines, or "Ford," he turned out to be more of an ordinary man with an academic background-a genius in his own right, but still very human. Ford is a brilliant scientist and inventor with a PhD, but his goals were rooted in curiosity and a genuine desire to understand the mysteries of the universe, not in the pursuit of power or grandeur. This contrast between the perception of the author and the reality of Ford's character adds a layer of complexity to the story.
Sorry for the long comment😅😉
I love how technically From ford's perspective he just found out some 12 year old who's apparently his great nephew has read his dairy
@@Cottencandycat987 I know right, Dipper started writing in it (not knowing there is invisible ink in a couple of blank pages) instead of getting his own journal to write in. I was p*ssed when Dipper started writing in it with his 12-year-old handwriting in what was essentially (what I interpreted from the first episode since I did not know how old the journal was) a 19th-century work of art that was barely keeping itself together from years of neglect. I wish Dipper had made copies of the pages in case the worst had happened. I'm amazed the journal managed to hold itself together with the amount of physical abuse it absorbed (The journal has been dropped, tossed, and squished multiple times in various episodes, usually during chases or action sequences. Journal 3 gets soaked in water during a confrontation in the bunker etc)
@@SebastienGendron-uk4po honestly if ford wasnt happy that he now has a little helper/student type or if what Dipper wrote down wasn't that helpful or just kinda ruined his book he'd be absolutely pissed so luckily Dipper is almost exactly like him adding good bits rather than only dairy like stuff over the important knowledge
@@Cottencandycat987 I see your point. But if my handwriting was inferior to elegant calligraphy I wouldn't bother writing in the same book. I don't care if Dipper adds extra information as long as it's, not the 30-year-old original journal that looks like it could crumble from physical abuse (he could have made copies of each page and created his own journal with as many blank pages as he wants. Dipper is lucky the author just so happens to be related to him) Ford's handwriting is a blend of an elegant, old-fashioned script with a touch of scientific precision, which matches his intellectual and meticulous nature. The letters are neatly formed, with flowing curves and a slightly slanted style typical of traditional calligraphy, evoking a sense of care and artistry in every word. This beautiful, almost timeless handwriting, combined with the worn, stained pages of the journal, does give the impression that the work could be from the 19th century. The style adds to the sense that the journal is a carefully crafted, long-lost artifact, passed down through generations or hidden away for decades.
Ford's handwriting stands in stark contrast to Dipper's less refined, youthful scrawl, further reinforcing the idea of the journal being something ancient and delicate, deserving of careful preservation. Dipper was lucky he didn't write over the invisible ink parts of the blank pages.
Sorry for the long comment
3:41:40 the dollar bill being replaced with a picture o Dipper and Mabel and having Soos as the employee of the year instead of himself literally made me cry. We knew that Stan would move mountains just for his family but this detail is just so sincere and precious
Good eye, when we look at the earlier episodes, it makes it sad that stan painted his little boat as ''stan O war'' in memory of his brother and genuinely wanted to spend time with Dipper and Mabel because he sees their relationship as a reflection of his past. Let's be honest, parents aside did stan really want to take care of two kids while he was running the mystery shack and at the same time trying to make the portal work, the summer was more for stan to kick back and relax with his great-niece and great-nephew (he's been estranged from his family long enough that they think ''Stanley pines'' is dead) and to reminisce about his past while watching Dipper and Mabel's relationship with envy because at the back of his mind, he probably assumes Ford is dead.
No cause now I’m crying seeing it 😭😭😭😭
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Never before have I related so much to a piece of text
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The reason that one bully was so existential to the boys when they were kids is because he was an 8th grader. I don't know what it is but there's a skill tree unlocked only at 8th grade for some advanced bullying techniques.
when i was in 8th grade i got called an npc and, i dont know how to feel about that??
It's like that one John Mulaney bit - 13 year olds make fun of you, but in an *accurate* way.
Kids going through puberty and school adding more stress on top of that. I mean when there's a numerical system where you can tell how much of a failure a kid is, and not be able to help these kids when it comes to their frustration and anger, they're gonna lash it out wherever.
No but fr, i still wish the worst to that bitch who bullied me in eight grade BC i was ugly and had an autoimune desease, like girl????
This is so true and universal lmao
The most interesting thing about McGucket is that he stayed in Gravity Falls. He wasn't a native. He had a nice home with a wife and kid waiting for him. And yet, when he saw what was on the other side of the portal, when he fought with Ford, when he stormed out and said he was done with it all... he still stayed. Maybe he felt so changed that he couldn't go back home, maybe he thought Ford would come around, idk. And his son! His son, who sees him as an embarrassment and avoids him, came! He came to Gravity Falls! Why? To reconnect? To take care of McGucket? Who knows! But he came, and like his father, he stayed! He avoids his father but he doesn't just leave him behind and go back home?? Ugh, these characters are so interesting.
Very true, it always struck me as weird that his son came to Gravity Falls despite no mention of Mcgucket bringing his family along when he came to Gravity Falls to help Ford. Considering we never see Mcgucket's wife maybe she died at some point during those 30 years (after raising their son presumably) and after that his Son moved to GF to be somewhat close with his remaining family, but after moving he realized Mcgucket was too far gone and simply went on with life knowing his Dad was "okay" and occasionally seeing him but never being willing to actually hang out with him
@@theleonpasta7336I believe it’s revealed in the gobblewonker episode that McGucket got divorced, and then proceeded to terrorize his ex wife via killer robot.
I can't help but see Stan angrily walking into the science fair while eating toffee peanuts as an allegory to someone getting drunk and acting recklessly out of anger.
mmm drunk on toffee
I think what Stan was worried about was... Why would Ford ever come back for his loser brother and his abusive parents? Especially from Really Cool Science School? Like, the principal said it: at least ONE of your kids will be stuck in New Jersey forever. Ford was gonna BE someone. Someone doesn't come back for his nobody brother when he has cool nerd friends just like him. Yeah, neither was gonna die... But the relationship of the two of them being there for each other always was gonna fade away and they BOTH knew it.
Okay for what happened to Ford's pet Axolotl; imagine Stan is out fishing in his bargain bin Stan O' War, he lost his brother a few years ago, when suddenly he sees this little Axolotl that looks a lot like Ford did, Frilliam also recognizes Stan's face, so it's basically "hey little guy you look kinda like my brother, I do have that tank at the shack, come with me then little one" and Frilliam is just like "damn Ford you let yourself go, but sure, whatever!"
Hopity dopity, your headcanon is now also mine-ity
Wh im okay and not crying
To me the whole tragedy of this episode and the Stans in general was that you can't really blame neither of them. There's always another point of view, another thing to track back. You can't point fingers because both their feelings are valid and both of them are at fault. I'm somehow of a newcomer in the fandom (I watched it growing up but never interacted with the community) and the way people talk about the fight and pick sides really pisses me of. It feels downright purposely misread. It's such a complex situation.
I may have a favoritism for Stanley, just because I see myself a little more in him, but villanizing Ford for wanting his own life is crazy. They both clearly love each other, and I hate how the fandom talks about it.
Welcome to the fandom :)
They're definitely both at fault, but that doesn't mean you can't pick sides, I'd say Stan is much more in the right here even if he does share a lot of the blame
@@crypt5129 i can see where you're coming from, but you can be mad at one of them and still understand where they are coming from and the psycology behind their actions. The way I see people talk about it is villanize one to uplift the other. If one of them is the clear "bad guy" then the point of the story is lost, at least to me.
@@Mara-mm5zeand you need to remember that everyone is not you. There is no way everyone else is going to see it exactly from your point of view. You can believe what you want, but there are thousands of other people watching who have different lives and understandings than you.
@@Mara-mm5ze I entirely agree, I just don't think siding with one of them is necessarily doing that, but ig that's more a disagreement in how we'd term things rather than an actual disagreement
3:05:43 one theory ive heard is that based on TBOB info that bill can possess corpses, ford was paranoid that bill might've been watching through the skeleton
bill clearly states he only possesses things that have neurons in them, tho. he could be lying OF COURSE, but... idk, makes sense for me, especially knowing that corpses still have brains in them. (which cant be argued, because, well, that was what ford was going to still from it anyway)
so i feel like this skeleton thing is just, well... a way to illustrate "dont trust anyone"
@@x1ere it's just a theory I've heard floating around
That makes total sense. If Bill can posses anything with neurons, includind fragments of a brain since he can possess paper made with brains, then it is completely within the rules. And since he reveals that neuron rule only after his death Ford in the 80's was using the skull to study which parts of the head does Bill need to control someone
@@x1ere even still, ford has no idea whether that's true or not so it's better to be careful. that's probably what the electrodes on the dino are for, to alert him if they report any brain activity
@@x1ereMaybe that's why the elektrodes are attached to the skull, to see if bill would be able to possess it.
Don’t know if anyone’s said this already, but I think the bag Filbrick throws at Stan could have been a bag Stan had packed for the Stan o’ War adventure. Maybe he’s had it ready to go for years. I think it’s also poetic that a bag representing his hopes and dreams is thrown in his face and taken with him on a different adventure, much grimmer and more lonely than the one he had in mind.
I think so too. Stan must've been preparing to leave and sail the oceans, since that was such a big aspiration of his
stated in the video
@@nemnyoom Time stamp? I watched the section through but I don't think I heard my specific point
@@hobbesthetigerthey listed it as one of the possibilities
Ok I rewatched the section and they don’t state it explicitly, but you guys are right. That’s probably what they meant.
I like how “a place where weirdos like me fit in” neatly parallels bills offer to take Ford in, “With that extra finger, you’d fit right in with my freaks!”
finally. after all these years. i have all four hours of hana hyperfixates’ video about a tale of two stans
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I know right!!
I get that reference
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HI OTGW PFP I feel the need to share the news that there is a ton of new otgw merch in hot topic for the 10 year anniversary
Oh boy! I can't wait to watch this A Tale of Two Stans analysis that definetly does NOT include an insane overanalysis of Schmebulock lore.
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"Does He Know?"
38:12 i like to imagine ford broke a bone or something and went for x-rays and the guy doing the x-rays was just new and had never seen them before and was just IMMENSELY fascinated and was like “hold on can we get extra x-rays of your hands just for fun?”
Ford: "Wouldn't that give me cancer"
Doctor: *puffing a cigar* "Nah, these machines are made with asbestos, perfectly healthy for a young lad like you."
@@nickrustyson8124I'm trying to figure out if that's a Portal 2 reference with the asbestos
@@Jayboe1123 nah it's a historical fact
@@bryce4395 ah okay
@@nickrustyson8124The most Alex hirsch joke possible
I grew up in a city with a bunch of tunnels underground that were previously used for ammo storage for the military. Someone opened an arcade, mini golf course, rock wall and laser tag course down there but there was still a LOT of graffiti from bygone times and most of it was just like "SENIOR PRANK" or "INITIALS WAS HERE". Such a place deserved more cryptic graffiti if you ask me.
K I totally respect personal privacy if you wish not to share this information but, I'm so curious what town this is.
If i made graffiti in a place like that i would put something more cryptid like... "Cult Camp was here" or something edgy like that
@@jainebutters7891 nah i think I can say, it was Atchison Kansas. Unfortunately last I heard, that arcade went bankrupt and now the tunnels are owned by some rich guy who stores his car collection down there
What a shame Matt Chapman wasn't able to contribute some "heh senior prank senior prank" graffiti.
WHERE THE FUCK WAS THAT AND CAN I GO THERE
OH GODDAMMIT WHAT A PRICK
YOu don't bring much attention to this but I both love and hate how Ford weaponizes the Stan O' War in his argument. He opens the conversation with what seems like an invitation, "Hey dude remember our promise to each other to be together forever in spite of the world? Do that but without the most fundamental part." Like Ford seems to have forgotten why they needed the boat, that he thinks it was just sailing and not being with each other.
I also love how Simmons utilizes the higher register when Stan gets burned on the whatevermajig, like for a brief moment the old, young Ford is shining through, the ford who would do anything to help his brother. The second he sees he's actually fighting his brother, the 17 years of friendship finally pushing through the one moment of divergence, he wants to take it all back, he sounds like a child. Same with Hirsch when Ford falls through the portal and Stan is trying to turn it back on, actual consequences of them fighting have Arrived and the child in Stan wants nothing more than to undo it.
well I guess I'm havin' tear soup with a side of vicarious agony tonight!
An x-ray for people with polydactyly is actually fairly common. The abnormality may actually not be the finger itself, but rather the amount of bones within it, as well as the fact it appears to be fully functional.
About Ford going to Backup's More instead of a better college, a theory I like a lot is that after Stan was kicked out, Ford fell into depression and just lost interest at anything and stopped attending to school or stop paying attention to classes and so he ended up with bad grades, or not good enough grades to get a scholarship to a good or even average college, so he ended up in the only college his family could afford.
I like the idea of this, however, this theory’s kind of contradicted by that fact that Ford was still able to graduate as valedictorian of his class in high school.
I think that the more likely scenario is that Ford was so set on attending West Coast Tech, that he failed to consider any other reputable colleges as alternatives, & thus, got stuck with Backupsmore.
yeah isn't the point that he was relying on the scholarship to west coast tech?
@@fuzzysweater12i agree, a lot of kids do that in the US
He's just like me fr fr
As much as this would've made sense, Ford's enthusiasm and determination to get himself into a grant kind of undermines that. If he genuinely did got through depression after losing his brother, he wouldn't exactly be motivated to continue his studies himself. It can be possible though, I just personally think it's not that possible.
Kind of a small thing but I like that even when homeless Stan isn't skinny and actively seems to be at his heaviest. Gaining weight isn't just about how much you eat but also what you eat and Stan wouldn't have the means to be eating healthy at this point, I mean he's probably living mostly off cheap junk food and whatever restaurant he thinks he could reasonably dine and dash at and it shows. Meat and fresh produce is also pretty expensive and Stan wouldn't have the luxury at this point to choose quality over quantity, plus he wouldn't have a refrigerator living out of his car so any food he does get would have to be able to last without that. I just like the representation of a character not getting enough to eat while still being overweight.
I gained 100 pounds while homeless. You know what's cheap, can be made with only a microwave, and doesn't need to be refrigerated? not a balanced diet. more like 4 packages of ramen and a bag of chips a day, plus one "better" meal a week from any of various sources (mostly someone picking up burger king, but about twice a year a bunch of people would pitch in for this guy to make everyone a low country boil to share). Also, soda was cheaper than bottled water which didn't help either.
and living out of his car, stan wouldn't have even had the microwave option like i did. he's just got burger king and chips (and maybe based on him trying to buy only a loaf of bread,, he just ate bread straight up? just plain? but maybe there was jelly at the shack still or something. i imagine he'd eat peanut butter straight from the container, but ive tried to eat just jelly alone and it's not. something im physically capable of personally.)
i'm very glad that someone is finally acknowledging the absurdity of ford inventing a perPETUAL MOTION MACHINE . i have NEVER seen anyone mention it.
And getting dismissed for it, even if it didn't work he's probably the closest anyone has ever gotten
My theory is that it's really delicate, seeing as how Stan broke it that easily. Every time Ford tried to fix it, it would break further. Maybe he couldn't replicate it because he lost the blueprints or a one-of-a-kind part that was stolen by Blendin.
@@ScrumpeyBros honestly kinda wished they added a scene where blendin went in the past to do that but we didn't know why until the episode
I choose the headcanon that it's not an animation error, it's Stan's desperation to get his brother back breaking the universe.
........in the form of an animation error
3:25:53 I NEED this fic now, or an animation. one of them tackles the other to the floor. flash of light. mildly disoriented, they get up and start fighting again before they even notice they've swapped places before stan-as-ford goes "wait these knuckles aren't broken the same way. these are more knuckles than I normally have." and ford-as-stan pauses to sniff himself and go "EUGH"
I can see Stan noticing his knuckles aren't broken before he notices he suddenly has an extra finger 😂
I too would kill for this fic
I need this fic in my life now lol
I actually found a fic like this!!! "Blow the Dust from the Bones" by emjam on AO3! Not finished yet but so far it's really good!
3:45:11 a little off topic, but i think it’s very interesting that Ford is upset that mabel and dipper were intended to stay with him (but couldnt . For obvious reasons), but he seems largely apathetic to the fact that the things filbrick intended Ford to have (fez, suit) went to Stan. Idk it just feels like Ford distanced himself from his parents (mainly filbrick) and now couldnt give less of a care of anything connected to him. Like he’s very protective of what’s his and is intended to be his. He rambles about what happened to his house and his various possessions in J3 and mentions it more than once in the show. The fact he’s very insistent on his house, is very obviously bitter on the relationship with Mabel and dipper he had missed out on up until that point, but something like his fathers fez and suit (STRICTLY intended for him, the latter he mentioned wanting to wear to receive some grand award) not really bothering him in the slightest (hell not even mentioning that he wants it back or that he begrudgingly lets stan have it or anything along those lines) is very interesting characterization to me. The fact we DO see ford with the outfit intended for him in the last episode, but he instantly takes off the fez the second he doesn’t need to wear it anymore kinda adds to it In a weird way. I’m definitely reading too much into this little detail but i thought it was worth noting
2:01:30 I’d argue that almost all of Stan’s clear not Ford-ness and the Town’s acceptance of that can be explained by Stan’s existence as a Grieving Twin. In world obviously Stanley constructs the lie that Stanley died in a Car Crash & Stanford is still around, but either Stan dying at all reveals both identities as Twins, and even without knowing a person intimately you know that loss is horrific, loss changes people, especially loss of family members even if those family members where estranged. “Stanford’s” insane switch of personality is really easily explained as a Grieving Twin, and it’s not even a wrong assumption as Stanley is still a grieving twin regardless of the lie
From experience, when your only support has been a single person and they betray you somehow, you lose your mind a little. Your reality is literally broken.
My personal headcanon is that what Ford invented was a breakthrough, but wasn’t actually a perpetual motion machine; that’s just Stan’s vague memory. Considering it’s never brought up verbally, (at least in the show, sry if it’s mentioned in the books and I wasted ur time) this just makes logical sense, while the alternative doesn’t
4:05:57 (Charlie Kelly Pepe Silvia posing) Okay but can we talk about the beds. It's been 9 years and I just realized this about the beds and it's making me crazy. Stan and Ford have a bunk bed growing up. Stan is on the bottom bunk, which aligns with his fear of heights. But it also perfectly encapsulates the hierarchy going on, with Ford the golden child on top, his head in the clouds, and Stan on bottom, literally in his brother's shadow. But he's okay with that; it's a comforting shelter from the realities of growing up. When that shelter is ripped away he doesn't know what to do.
Meanwhile, Dipper and Mabel have adjacent beds on equal ground. Beds where they can look each other in the face and have a conversation. It's such a beautiful visual representation of the different levels of communication skills each set of twins have.
kinda random but did you ever notice that bill burns off ford's sideburns when he electrocutes him
it hides his grey streak too so they can pull off the twin switch later (part of me feels like its a shame they immediately go back to his regular design afterwards tho)
when my ex-husband grows ugly ass sideburns and I have to get rid of them
14:10 There's an interesting detail here that isn't mentioned. When young Stan & Ford are writing their names on the cave wall, Ford signs his first name using his usual cursive handwriting, but writes their last name with all-caps block letters that match closer to how Stan signs _his_ first name; additionally, the camera cuts to only show Ford writing in the last name. This makes it look as though _Ford_ was the one who wrote in the name "Stanley". Rather than being an error, this is intended, I believe, to delay the reveal of Stan having taken Ford's identity until the intended point in the episode, by making it temporarily appear as though "Stanley" is the name of the Author-twin, rather than "Stanford".
Not sure if this was intended but if you compare the handwriting, it turns out Ford's CAPITAL LETTER font he uses in the journal sometimes is actually the same as Stan's font (and that goes for the font used to quote Bill in the lost journal pages too). So ironically Ford can forge Stan's handwriting perfectly
@@goldsk5877 silly to think that he can forge Stanleys handwriting, while Stanley can do an impression of Fords voice (if I remember correctly)
@@goldsk5877Stan can do a perfect impression of Ford’s voice. Maybe it’s just a twin thing!
@@inorexablechaos1139 idk how it happened, my dad did not teach me how to write or anything, and my handwriting (like most people's i think?) has changed a lot over the years anyway, but my dad still has a paper grocery list that's kept on the wall, and people regularly mistake items i've put on there as my dad's handwriting.
once my sister and i were convening at the list the night before grocery day and my sister goes, "why did dad write down nutty buddies? there haven't been nutty buddies in this house in the time we've been alive, why does he suddenly want them?" and i had to tell her that i was the one who wanted nutty buddies.
34:02 now I have this idea that hot Belgian waffles had some kind of commercial where people used it as a replacement swear that was like “everyone swears that hot Belgian waffles has the best waffles this side of the lead paint district! So come, try the waffles that everyone swears on” and it became a meme in the town similar to “where’s the beef”
let's be honest with ourselves:
Ford could've totally made it as an artist with how realistically (for his dimension) he's able to draw EVERYTHING that he does.
Also Dipper to?
Idk I haven't seen his pages in the book in a while.
I like how you assume that Bill is the one who bit things, when clearly it was feral Ford
I’ve always been confused as to how Ford couldn’t just fix or make a new perpetual motion machine? Like surely he had blueprints and designs and things. Great video Hana!!
He forgor
The way I justify it to myself is that things take a while to troubleshoot and figure out what went wrong and those admissions committee ppl were busy. Also dude probably got blacklisted or smthn since west coast tech is highly reputable in the gf universe so I bet they wouldn’t even hear him out if he called and was like “I fixed it come back!!”
3:05:29 Bill has been shown in Sock Opera to be capable of possessing inanimate objects, but is explained further in Book of Bill that Bill can possess anything as long as it has a neuron. It’s later shown in the book that Bill can possess corpses, which Ford witnesses while on a trip to the Valentino’s funeral home. So Ford turning the skeleton is likely a trauma response or at least his paranoia and anxiety telling him to make extra sure Bill isn’t watching.
Saying “Stop fucking shmebulock!” with two empty monster cans in the background speaks to me in a way I can not put to words.
I WAS JUST BINGING YOUR WHOLE CHANNEL LAST NIGHT AND WENT "aw man im running out of hana hyperfixates content what will i do with my life" AND THE GODS SMILED UPON ME AND SAID "FEAR NOT CHILD FOR THOU NEED NOT A LIFE BUT ONLY UA-cam" AND BLESSED ME WITH 4 HOUR LONG VIDEO ESSAY
LITERALLY SAME
SAMEEE
"This guy that you pushed into a manhole... did you pay his mortgage?!" is a great way to end the video. 10/10 watch
Ford getting the grant and just fucking off to the woods to be autistic is honestly such a mood 1:48:18
@@ellajazz4861 "Lets run away and be autistic in the woods together" -Ford to Mcgucket, probably
2:44:38 this very fact is what I think makes Mabel so important to breaking the cycle with Dipper, having a good sister made him more open to communication and they both avoid letting defensive anger mislead them.
The wizard who cursed Shmebulock is Xgqrthx, the same guy who in The Book of Bill, builds a portal as a trick to trap Bill in an orb 🧙🏻♂️
Sounds like a interesting character that he would attempt to entrap an unfathomably ancient and powerful demon triangle.
@@kylepessell1350 To impress his ex, too
part of me wonders if part of the reason Stanford went to Backupsmore is cause it's the only college he could see his brother maybe getting into. Stan wasn't keeping in touch with his family (for obvious reasons) and how he left probably left a bitter taste in Ford's mouth. As upset as he was, and probably still was, about Stan breaking his machine, accident or not, he still likely missed his brother. So, in a desperate attempt to hopefully find him, he goes to a college who's tagline is literally "Everyone is welcome here!" hoping that included his brother, unaware that at this point Stan was like halfway across the country.
Combining this with @hobbesthetiger comment I read above, both brothers had their own parallel solo adventures hoping to run into each other on the way but only getting further apart. But that’s a way more depressing read LMFAO
Combining this with @hobbesthetiger comment I read above, both brothers had their own parallel solo adventures hoping to run into each other on the way but only getting further apart. But that’s a way more depressing read LMFAO
T~T
As someone who’s about to enter the animation industry (and who has idolized Alex Hirsch’s work my whole life), my absolute favorite thing about this video is how you point out every single animation error, inconsistency, and “sloppy” mistake, but in a lighthearted, understanding kinda way. It makes my aspirations as a storyteller feel so much more attainable!
To know this incredible show has stupid little production flaws/confusing retcons, AND that a fan as diehard as this is generally accepting of them… it just makes me relax a little about pursuing my own tv show development goals
Also, I’d forgotten how UNHINGED some of those old theories were omg, the schmebulock torture rocketed me back in time
I am living for the "Stanford Pines did Many things wrong and looked So Sexy while doing it" energy. Gravity Falls fans who openly love Mabel AND Ford are braver than any US Marine. We are cut from the same cloth my friend
1:58:28 This is also shown in The Book of Bill! It shows a picture of the Stans as babies with a mobile of basic geometric shapes above them, and Ford reaches specifically for the one yellow triangle
It's insane that McGucket had a wife and a little son, and one day just "temporarily" left them and never went back. Just stayed in Roadkill County, Oregon, where he gradually lost his mind. At least he kept contact with his son.
What a normal video length!
Only the most concise analysis :)
I am overjoyed that the video is long tho because I need something to play while I play Minecraft
That channel wasn't lying. That Hana can hyperfixate
I’m only 21 seconds in and the “Does Stan have a cousin????” red arrow pointing at Ford sent me into a minutes-long laughing fit. Oh my god, I don’t know why that hit me so hard, but I’m psyched to keep watching!
Just finished the video and it was incredible! I wasn’t too active in the fanbase back when the show was airing, so it’s always really fascinating to hear about what the fandom was up to. Though I admit, I did wind up buying into the theory about Dipper’s eyes in Not What He Seems xD
I also really enjoy all the analysis you do into body language and expressions. As someone who regularly watches shows frame-by-frame, I’ve always loved the amount of detail in this episode.
One of my favorite bits is a subtle moment during Mabel’s “hug it out” scene (1:27:30). The first time she suggests it, Ford briefly stops writing and looks at Stan, as if he’s gauging Stan’s receptiveness to the idea. Stan doesn’t react and so after a beat, Ford goes back to scribbling while Mabel repeats herself.
I have no idea what Ford would do if Stan actually did try to hug it out, but that tiny moment makes the whole scene for me.
@@KezismeJ awsome.
honestly I don't think it would've worked but still.
As an identical twin, the most realistic thing was the secretary calling both of them when only one was needed. I've had teachers give up and just call us both "twinny" or pull us both into detention because they couldn't remember which one got in trouble
I think Ford would not enjoy exercise as PE class puts it, but something like boxing where theres no grade and he's just bettering himself and his body and mind and like, reading his opponent, he would enjoy
Unfortunately for you, you did forget a detail and it's that the punch drenching at prom parallels when Dipper shaved his head to match Mabel
I do gotta say tho, regardless of whatever small details you did a great job with this video. Makes me want to overanalyze this one scene from this one finale from this one show I like (whether I actually get to that is a whole other story)
My years of Jenny Nicholson and Defunctland training has prepared me for the length of this video.
watching a 10 hour harry potter analysis has prepared me maybe too much
I remember the french transaction, and i might be remembering wrong, Stanley says his father didn't expect twins and named them both Stan cause he couldn't be bothered to come up with two names
yeah there was a rhyme in english too which went along the lines of "a stubbon [something] jersey native, filbrick wasn't too creative. having twins was not the plan, so he just shrugged and named both stan."
as a virginia resident, on my last visit to luray caverns i made sure to scrawl “you are currently in virginia” on the cave walls just so no one was confused!
Alright, that's gonna be my new bit whenever I do graffiti
Honestly I'm kinda surprised they let all that punching fly on Disney, like ATLA wasn't allowed to have straight up punching on Nick, so to think Disney actually had less censorship is wild. Honestly Gravity Falls got away with SO much it's insane (like calling the Mystery Shack the MURDER HUT even just once for a bit)
Tbf wasn’t most of gravity falls run on Disney XD? Disney XD was aimed at tween/teen boys mainly ages 10-16 and most of its shows such as kickin it had fighting as their main plot lines.
1:05:37 "Stan habibi please go get Ford" this literally why you're my fav UA-camr ever
its so in character for bill to be like "OH I HAVE TEETH NOW. I CAN BITE STUFF. HOW STURDY ARE THEY? HOW BOUT METAL?" and, yeah...
the funniest answer for the "maps of where stan's been to/banned from being different" thing is just that they heard of him and decided "nah, not dealing with it" and banned him pre-emptively. which, as you noted, would also make the "you dont just get banned from states legally" argument make more sense. they just ran a news report saying he was banned or smth and by some miracle of luck, he always managed to hear it and didnt bother even trying
AHH this whole part at 1:58:13! I remember losing my mind a little bit at that one photo of Ford as a baby in the book of bill where he’s staring in awe at a yellow triangle in the baby mobile above his crib. Love that it’s an expression of amazement too, as that foreshadowed how he was oblivious to bill’s intentions
i fucking love when you talk about gravity falls in the context of the vietnam war
I love videos like this, so unbelievably in depth that skipping through it can lead to some unhinged out of context moments. Such as hearing about how cute the Pines twins are as kids then skipping forward and hearing an explanation of the Vietnam draft lmao
Thinking about how Stanley kept the Axolotl alive the entire time Stanford was in the portal. 🙃
I headcanon that Stan, by pure coincidence, also named the axolotl Frilliam.
“How much crime can you really get into in Rhode Island” 1:53:06 I’m howling 😂 you should look up Buddy Cianci and the Patriarca family. Stan probably didn’t go to Rhode Island because he knew better.
oh the universe where ford never called fiddleford and there are strawberry brand computers and phones everywhere in the gravity falls world
something I always notice in that fight is when Ford pushes Stan and he gets branded, the way Ford says "Oh my gosh!" sounds just like the way Dipper says it (he does it after hitting Wendy in the eye with a baseball and I think in other places in the series but that's the one I can remember off the top of my head.) Ford and Dipper are alike in the way they react to hurting someone else is the same, and if he's not careful Dipper could end up like Ford.
Respondo en español porque mi inglés no es bueno al escribir.
Aunque Dipper si tiene parecido a Ford e incluso a Filbrick superficialmente, él se parece muchísimo más a Stan en cuanto a valores fundamentales
HELP! HANA TRAPPED ME IN MY COMPUTER UNTIL I WATCHED THIS 4 HOUR VIDEO
"The triangle man is sharp on my mind. The angles cut me when I try to think"
join the club, I'm 3 hours in now
Sorry but literal goosebumps when Stanley pushes Ford into the thing. if only they could've communicated properly.
As someone who just started college again- I can’t wait to find 4 hours where I can just sit and do nothing except watch you talk about my favorite episode of Gravity Falls in excruciating detail. Thank you Hana-
as someone who recently returned to college and doesn't have time to watch a 4 hour analysis of one kids show episode i'm glad that i'm ignoring everything else i have to do to watch this!
Canonically the fish mask thing has to be in the bag that was thrown at Stanley when he was kicked out lol
True, unless Ford had it in his stuff at the lab, like in a box or something.
@@hanahyperfixatesthat’s also very true!
3:05:29 with new bill lore of him possessing corpses, that skeleton being turned around suddenly makes sense
I am SO excited for the defending Stanford video cuz I have a good feeling you’re gonna set straight the immense resurgence of Ford hate happening rn
"they would find a way to get eaten by a shark in non-shark infested waters"
perfection. 😂👌
I always took the bag being thrown at Stan as being empty with the implication that his dad expects him to fill it with money.
I do have to ask: When's the 6 hour video essay analyzing Bill Cipher as a character, complete with overanalysis of his appearances and mentions in the series, Journal 3 The Book, Hirsch's In-character AMAs, an analysis of the history and Themes of Flatland, and a comprehensive book report about The Book of Bill. (Joking, of course..... maybe)
I like to think Ford never rebuilt the perpetual motion machine because he just genuinely didn't care to improve humanity in that kinda way. Like, he's always been concerned most with weirdness, and so somethin that seems that big for general science just wasn't super important to him. It was just an early step in a different journey. He does want to make a big deal in the science community, but he's set on doing it in this one specific way to the point that he barely even registers that he already has made arguably the biggest scientific breakthrough ever.
stan and ford also parallel eachother in entertaining the mystery shack guests and lying to the agents. they even say “right” in the same way at the end of the spiel.
okay stan banging on the portal and yelling "i just got him back i cant lose him again" legitimately made me bust out sobbing
i just wanted to say as an artist who works from home and is insane about gravity falls this is a PERFECT video to put on in the background while i work thank you so much your analysis is UNMATCHED
Ok I have to admit something, I'm not fluent in english so I always thought that "gruncle" was a pun between grumpy and uncle, I never realised, even when I watched the show in french (my mother tongue) that Stan and Ford weren't the uncles of Dipper and Mable but instead they were their great uncle
Nah same, it took me years to realize it was an actual word and not just a pun.
Dude English is my first language, and it took me YEARS to realize it’s a combination of great and uncle, and not grandpa and uncle. My only guess was I was too young to question how those word combinations made any sense.
@@blobfish7109 I USED TO THINK IT WAS GRANDPA AND UNCLE TOO😭
I'm about to have the best baking session of my life.
Ok editing this as I go, "abolish prisons, except for me, right now. Put me in prison" is an amazing bit
Okay I finally finished it. Only took me two days and countless numbers of distractions.
Just got to say I'm so excited for the analysis of 2015 fandom culture and your defense of stanford, I feel like in my spaces of the fandom the conflict has leveled out to "yeah, Neither of them are perfect in the situation, but it's not really anyone's fault either." It's a complex situation where nobody was in a good headspace in like, pretty much any of these interactions. Kind of glad I skipped over the part of the fandom where Stanford was hated because I think I would get really sad . Come on he's literally just a boy. (He is 32 years old at the minimum)
1:49:40 To be fair- Ford was like legitimately losing his goddamn mind while writing book 3, if I was that sleep deprived and had a literal demon inside my head, I’d probably mislabel a few things too.
man I am so glad they didn’t go for the fighting for a girl plot lol, not only does it kind of suck but i am a gay ford truther (fidauthor is my roman empire)
will never understand ford haters btw like what was he supposed to do when stan got kicked out 😭 and his anger was definitely justified in the moment (talking abt fords anger btw not their dad)
@@reallyradrabbit i think the idea is that ford wasn't going to west coast tech anyway so he may as well have given up even trying to have a scientific career and gone straight on to the stan o'war
That's the issue??? Not the misogyny?? Also Ford could've been bi anyway
It's worth noting about the discrepancy between what Hirsch says about McGucket and the fact he created the blind eye society, os there anything contradicting the idea that it wasn't initially a cult but warped into that overtime? The way he describes it in the flashbacks makes it sound more like a voluntary thing when McGucket was in control
I sat through this whole thing, because I absolutely adore the passion you put into these deep dives, and because I have been both Ford and Stanley at multiple moments in my life with family. That's why it always crushes me when Ford doesn't thank Stanley and for all his trouble, he just gets told to get out of the house, he's just expected to pack up and leave despite all he did to try to make it up to Ford, he's expected to just go back to having nothing? It's a painful moment, but especially if you've been close to that point with a sibling. And Mabel, for once she has that sleepless night of worrying if she'll see her Grunkles be torn apart when she might've been the one to see that happen with her parents. And worrying about if growing up means growing apart.
No matter how many times I binge watch Gravity Falls, that's always the part that gets me.
Note: A perpetual motion machine is not necessarily a free energy machine! Perpetual motion just means it doesn't need any additional energy to stay in motion. However, Stanford's machine is not inside a perfect vacuum, so perhaps it does generate electricity. And now I'm wondering if the energy you can collect for free from ambient radio waves (like, literal music radio) is enough to create such a device.
Are we gonna talk about how Stanley very clearly is not wearing glasses in his younger years. (Not helping his dylexia I'm sure).
Only when he's reached a certain point, is he finally wearing them... I wonder how hard it must've been to getting used to seeing Ford's face again, but only in the mirror. Did he only put them on when he was walking out? Did he stare at them at night wondering where Ford's glasses were? Did he have that prescription for months before he literally started running into things? Did he only agree to finally wear glasses when there was no other option because it reminds him of the smarter twin?