toyota tundra rusted frame repair update 2 winters later.
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- i bought this 2oo4 toyota tundra a little under 2 years ago with a rusted frame. the recall was over for this truck and the toyota dealer only sprayed it down with some black covering that in my opinion just made it worse. so I purchased the truck cheap and patched the frame where the rusted holes were, then scraped off the flaking black stuff and sprayed it down with oil. fast forward today and the truck comes in to see how it is holding up and do some repairs.
lets fix an exhaust leak, a broken sway bar link and respray it with oil.
I just wanted to thank you. I have an old homelite weed eater. Has to be 20 years old and hadn’t ran for adleast 8years. I order a carb kit from yes china. I had never done anything like this before. Thanks to watching you working on stuff i figured what the hell. It worked and purrs like a kitten. Although its still freezing up here it feels great to have done this. Thank you.
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Love your quiet (and very restful) shots of the New England winter. And for that matter, spring, summer, and fall. I look forward to them.
Just saw a comment that made me remember to thank you also! You live in a beautiful place Nd I want to thank you also for showing us the country side ! That is really a nice touch,, I feel like you are giving us an encore every video! THANK YOU!!!!
You are so welcome!
When I was a kid I lived near an old man who had probably 50 old cars lined up in rows in a field. These were like 40's,50's and 60's body styles. He used to go out every year and spray them down with plain old motor oil. He sprayed the bodies, the frames and pretty much the entire exterior and the engine bays. They had rust but I don't remember any holes and all the rust looked... well wet and dark. It didn't seem to ever get any worse. He always did that for... I guess 25 or 30 years, and then he passed away and the family sold them all. When I last saw them, they didn't look much different from when I was 12 or so. So... I can say that your oil thing works, or at least what I saw did. I think the chain oil is a really good idea.
I remember that repair well. It looks like it's holding up pretty well. New, full-sized trucks these days are astronomical...$50K plus, so if you can get by for $3-4K, you're making big bucks. Thanks, Mustie!!
Trucks aren’t that expensive if you get a more base model. They knock 10-15k off the sticker.
Staying busy prevents cabin fever with all that snow
Weather went bad fast! Very impressive how you have fixed that truck and kept it road worthy! Fourteen New England winters of "rock-a-salt", sponsored by the American Auto Body Association, is a noteworthy accomplishment.
Tolba Szy indeed it is, I've seen trucks that are barely 10 years old in worse condition than that Toyota is in now
Salt corrosion isn't seen like that in my part of the world, which is South Australia, unless your vehicle regularly sees beach driving and you fail to properly clean underneath with fresh water. Our ute bodied Toyotas, which are Hiluxs and Landcruisers, never rust away. They usually just die due to old age, big kilometres and fatigue, or a combination of all three. Another great vid 👍👍
I had a brand new mid 80s Isuzu pickup literally dissolve after about 2 years of constant beach usage. Cheap steel, cheap paint and cheap labor, Isuzu wasn't very well made back then. That's why there are very few survivors today.
get a ex mine vehicle ...dead within 2 years
I had a 91 Toyota pickup. Loved that truck. The bottom of the doors eventually rusted thru, had them repaired and the truck painted. The diff rusted thru, had it cut off and a new cover welded on, Then the oil pan rusted thru. Had to finally give up after 11 years. Powertrain was still solid though.
Always like to see the place around you at the end of the vids. So much snow. Cheers
I moved from Maine to Arkansas 30 years ago and I still do not miss the snow. It's pretty to look at (on computer) but you can have it.
You have a real knack for talking your thoughts on camera, not an easy thing to do thanks for bringing us along AGAIN :-)
His wife told him to stop talking to himself so he got a camera.
Been working on cars since I was 14 now I'm 68 and still learning somethings by watching your videos
The Tundra was a good series. I like the $200 pick up truck. That was crazy.
I bought an 01 Mazda B2300 about a year ago. It only has 49K miles on it and it runs like a dream, but it's never had any preventative measures done to protect it from the Western NY salt. This winter has taken a toll on it. I need to patch some holes in the side of the box and clean the rust off the frame and oil it. I'm going to watch your Toyota frame repair videos... just in case. Your videos are great. Thanks.
Watching this video makes me happy that I live in Texas, and don't have to worry about 'salting' of the roads in the winters.....That's crazy how much rust you can see on the frame & chassis pan of that 15 y/o Tundra. Complete destruction on that frame.
I live in Upstate NY and just today I used Texas as a comparison of vehicles. I said that if you go to Texas, you'll see 35 year old trucks that are in better shape than 2 year old trucks in New York. That's why when people are looking for older cars/trucks to purchase, they generally look down south for them, because the bodies don't rot like they do up north. I have a '69 Charger and when I retire in 10 years, I plan on moving to a part of the country where I can drive it year-round and never have to worry about it rusting.
They just started salting roads in The Boise, Idaho/Eastern Oregon area this winter. Gonna have to do something as the rust is already showing it's destructiveness. Thanks Mustie for the tips on how to help save our rigs. Looks like I'll be spraying some oil.
I've recently discovered your videos and think they are fantastic. I started with your roadside snowblower find and have been motivated to repair my own.
Don't worry about overdoing it Mustie, this fix will last longer than the truck as a whole. 10+ years.
Lol Mustie- little typo on the note about tapping goes away when warm. Always enjoy the videos!
Nothin' like good old fashioned underside oiling and taking a ride down a dusty road.
The closing scenes of snow make me glad I'm in Houston!!!
Hey... Don't forget those batteries. Enjoyed this video as I just watched the frame repair about a month ago ago. Still looks great.
Great follow-up on the repairs and spraying--catching up on the Tundra videos.
I always wondered why Y'all don't oil'm like that. Thanks for sending the cool weather down to us here in fl. We've had several mornings down in the 30s. Will be hot as hell here soon enough
Nice job on the frame. I had the frame on my 83 Hi Lux repaired/welded twice. It finally got to the point there was nothing left to attach to. An amazing truck. Current Tacoma sits in the yard all winter and frame still looks like new (a 97). I'm pretty much convinced that if a cost analysis was done to compare the total consumer cost of frames and bodies rotting away due to salt with the cost of using an alternative (there are a few) that even though the alternatives are costly in the long run the public would be well served by using the more expensive alternatives to salt. And that's not considering the negative environmental impacts of using salt year after year after year.
the government works for car manufacturers, not the actual consumers who pays the salaries....
Sorry, but the consumers would be screaming if they had to pay for alternatives. But local nukes might have extra heat for desalination or road heating. Go GEN IV nukes!
28" of snow in three days here in VT I can here the salt eating my cars at night. I will spray them down and try your tonic as soon as it warms enough. Thanks Mustie
Hard to believe it's been 2 years already. It seems like yesterday you were going to look at the truck and then doing the frame repairs. I will say though that it is holding up very well.
I really enjoy your videos, I miss doing all the stuff you are doing, had neck surgery and had to retire early.
I got 2 more patch welds on my 1986 Toy 2WD PU frame, tip o'the hat - would never have done it if'n I didn't see you do it first. (If only I had oiled it more) Might be interesting to people out where they don't salt the roads, to show them the Town Garage (what we call it in VT) where they have a huge pile of salt. Then there's the State District piles for the state roads and Interstate. Then there's the piles of sand. Thanks again dude!
good repairs and maintenance a well-done job thumbs up and shared more snow don't fret spring is not far away now
Hi Mustie, working out a deal on a 2010 Tacoma. I’m going to use a mixture of UMO,grease and Fluid Film. A touch up at every oil change or whenever I get under the vehicle. I once saw a guy that had an 80’s Tacoma, no rust, he also used bar and chain oil.
Here in Canada there is a recall on these old Tundras. I know someone who is getting a new frame from Toyota. It's costing them thousands of dollars to replace.
Nice to see a manufacturer stand by their product.
I used POR-15 on my frame. 5 years later and it's still there protecting. It's a bit expensive, but I sprayed it through my paint gun, so pint (17.00) goes further.
Wow wow, we have our problems in the south BUT,,,, THAT damn salt up north is really bad! I wanted to move to Massachusetts until I saw how every vehicle, every vehicle turns into a rust bucket after 5 or 6 years! I think I will stay where I’m at! We can keep a vehicle 15 years down here and with very moderate care hardly have any rust! It is beautiful up there in the winter for sure! I was not sure about your oil process but I have learned after watching over one hundred 💯 of your videos never second guess MUSTIE 1,,,, EVER!!!
You have lots of energy doing all that work. Sale Sale Sale ... My friend had his Toyota Pickup recalled, Toyota had to replaced his frame. That's a good tip for me, keep my old 2002 Ford Ranger XLT 4X4 with no rust at 173,000 miles (the 4.0L OHC purrs, burns no oil). I change the oil and rotate the tires three times a year (Nov,-Mar,-Jul.) . I only drive it 3300 miles since retired, but the engine doesn't run long enough to burn the moisture out of the oil. The oil fill cap will look somewhat chocolate milk, if I don't change the oil. I have no head gasket leaks, the exhaust is clear, no smoke, and inside of the tailpipe looks good and dry. The emission test results are really good for an old truck, I used the spray intakes valve cleaner product twice before. I would love to buy a new Ford Bronco, but at age 72 I probably die before my old truck would. Oh well.
I like the effort on the edited thumbnails and text inside the video!!
thanks
Integra DIY I agree
Thanks for the video, I need to change the donut gasket on my 01, doesn't look as bad as I thought. I just replaced my front sway bar links also, I had to cut the nuts off too.
My 1979 Ford rusted to pieces by 82K miles. After I moved to the South I never had a problem with rust- my 1984 truck has no rust at all! There has to be a better way to deal with snow and ice than dumping tons of salt on the roads.
I gotta do this to my Ranger...hope it's not too late...thank you for posting.
Hi Darrin,
good work , i have did this for Years saw chain oil and used motoroil and same diesel fuel works great ,
love your work , cheers from Germany
Really beautiful outtro, but from California I can't believe how you can drive like you do in the snow. It looks like a real skill.
Those wet roads are salt-impregnated!
Reminder: Buy new batteries!! :P
Can't beat a Honda Generator, I love my little EX650, when it snowed previously to the "beast from the east", I ran it in the snow outside my shed, and it was so quiet you couldn't hear it by the house, perfect little thing for keeping a few things going in the even of power failure... :)
Lived in Laconia for 7 years. Know this task well. Now out in Arizona and we get under our trucks to CLEAN them !
From? I haven't been there. Hope you're not under there detailing!!!
nice too see the welding is holding up great.
I've always used a 50/50 mix of black waxoyl and engine oil (40 weight) makes for a nice gooey mix that runs slightly when warm but sets like a thin grease when cold and seems to last much longer than just oil or just grease in our climate...the MOT testers around here (UK) hate testing my cars as they get messy but I can live with they're swearing if it means no rust :)... and I drive and old Jag so I'm no stranger to tin worm.
Looks like you guys are having the winter we had over here in Idaho last winter...man I wish we had winters like that every year...this winter has been a dud, most of the winter it was in the 40's some 50's but very few days below freezing...last winter on the other hand, 2 feet of snow, below freezing pretty much all winter, my truck looked like I came down from the arctic LOL, I had my truck in 4WD for a month straight...man talk about terrible fuel economy HAHA. Roads weren't plowed very well if at all, plows would go by and throw all the snow right back into your driveway making it fun to get out. Every time the plow would go by I'd get in the truck and drive through it to keep an open path in and out of the driveway. Still don't have a snow blower, they're useless in the snow like that once the plow throws it back into your driveway its like compacted snow/ice at that point so the blower won't go through it anyhow. Probably won't get another winter like that for another 20 years HAHA!!!
This is a never ending problem with Toyota frames.its their frame design period. They had this problem since they came out and same dam problems today. Until they get around to changing their frame design nothing will ever change.
Liked the video right down to the white out at the end. Not many V8 Toyota vehicles came to NZ especially not utilities or 4 Runners anyway.
I have the exact same year SR5. It has 120K and runs like a beast. These are great trucks...overbuilt. zero body rust except the tailgate is rotted out which Im going to replace. Best part is I traded some furniture for it. Big score. Zero dollars. No payment. Being an upstate NY truck, its has some frame rust too. I'm going to do your undercoating routine on it. I wanted to thank you for the fantastic education. Much appreciated. BTW, does anyone ever tell you you sound like Peta Griffin? Love your channel
👍 from Montreal, Canada. We get the same problem here from road salts and stones. At least you have a frame to hold that truck together, what about these darn unibody cars and such... galvanized metal or not, it doesn’t take long for rust to destroy a floor pan. Next thing you know, you’re doing a Fred Flintstone through the floor. I usually do an oil/graphite shoot every fall and have good success keeping cars 10+ years. P.S. I know we’re watching you, but we can’t help you if an accident happens while you’re working alone, hope you have a cell phone nearby.
Your bar and chain oil seems to work well, a shame this truck didn’t originally have it that way, would have saved the frame.
Did my jeep frame same way,holding up 👍.love Honda generators,have a little 2200 an use it more than the big one.
Glad we dont have the road salt issue here in Australia, looks like a full time job.
I had exactly the same problem with a Walker replacement on my Isuzu, which looks like what yours might be. The flange was thinner than stock and was running out of thread before fully tightening up. Adding washers seems to have taken care of the problem and it's been a few years now with no issue.
G'day Kevin from Australia.
Another great video
Don't forget to order camera batteries 😁
good luck with the storm, I wish youd run one of those Coleman Maxa generators a while, I have to, and love them, but never ran one around the clock.
I watched the original repair video and yeah ... It's holding up well. 👍
Living in the South-Arkansas, I have Never Seen Anyone Oil down a Vehicle Frame, this is Strange but Like John Wayne said--a Man has Got to Do What a Man Got to Do.
NIce job, I have a 2010 Ram and im starting to see some very slight rusting I will be trying this oiling trick.
That undercoating spay you use really did an excellent job after two years! This update proves it! Paddy could use a little. Otherwise it will feel left out - haha.
Don’t forget to buy new camera batteries!
Some 35 years ago, I took my first brand new car to have it treated at Ziebart. Worst idea of my life. It caused exactly the same problem as on your truck. Supposedly guaranteed for 10 years. Ah ! It terminally rusted through frame, doors fenders, everywhere in 4 years. Had to take them to court. They wanted to repair the busted and twisted frame. No way. I won and they had to pay half my new car. Never went back. Since then, oil based yearly spray on my 2 cars and 1 truck. No rust at all.
Is that all they did down there for the fix was replaced the frame? Up here in Canada they were giving people Black Book value on the trucks and then sent off to be crushed. A guy I work with at the time went online and bought every Tundra he could find in the area and if they had a rusted frame he bought them up. He ended up turning in eight of them and got anywhere between 14 and $18,000 for each truck and the most he paid for any was $5,000 so he made a killing on that deal
So sad that NH and the other northern states continue to use road salt with the department of transportation refusing to change to other alternatives such as sand, coal cinders, or what ever. They are not held accountable for the billions of damage to rusted out cars, destroyed trees, ruined wells and the like. I left NH back in the mid seventies one of the reasons being that it was B.S. that the damage caused by road salt was being ignored. Moved to the mtns of Colorado and here they use magnesium chloride though while fraught with it's own problems (rotted rubber parts, brake failure, wheel failure, contaminated wells and destroyed trees, at) least we don't have a rust issue. We could use coal cinders but the ski resort areas don't want to see dirty snowbanks as it looks bad to the tourists. Remember, it's all about the money! With all that being said, great videos!
In MI we use a combo of salt and sand. But its even worse because the underside and wells are sand blasted then start to rust from the remaining salt. :-(
I have a 2001 Tacoma , nice truck. Woman that owned it before had taken it to have the frame recalled and since she lived in Arizona they sprayed it instead of doing right by her. Like you said it trapped the rust and I have to spray it every year to protect it . Toyota cheated the people that they refused new frames.
I have a 1990 Toyota and the frame is mint. These newer years of Toyotas are really bad for the frames being rotten
Hey Mustie 1 . I use a pocket mirror to check for exhaust leaks, just run it along and it fogs up when you hit the leak
Looks like that body mount needs some love too!
Every time I see Mustie under a vehicle on his creeper i feel like im watching a surgeon doing an exploratory before the actual procedure.
I have always been impressed with Toyota coatings. I guess salt can eat through anything. My Jeep on the other hand, had NO coatings. Even down here in Texas, I sprayed oil on it. Eliminates squeaky suspension too.
I Put my Snow Shovel Away on the Hook.If it snows,the sun will shovel it away.Thanks and Cheers. From John at Alberta Canada
Have you considered mixing Paraffin with the chain oil to make it stay on better? This basically creates Cosmoline. Eastwood makes something similar that I have used with success. Great video though.
Made quick work of that exhaust repair, have to do a repair on my pilot where the rear subframe bolts to the body at one of the four points and some front end parts to replace, I hate wrenching on my car but not as much as a 110$ an hour mechanic bill, don't forget camera batteries!
HONDA PILOT? Ok I admit I looked over and even test drove one at an auto auction. Saw it had the exact rust issue you mentioned.. rear subframe mounts rusted to nothing. But actually looked like an easy fix compared to many rust issues on other vehicles.
My brother had a 1983 F100 back around 1990. He was religious about changing the oil and sprayed the used motor oil on the frame and underside of the truck. 10 Years go by and the truck had disappeared, more than likely recycled. I blew the engine in my 1999 F-350 and needed something to drive. I didn't have much money so my buddy said he had a an old f100 down in back of the house. I get there to look at the truck and guess what truck it was. Yes sir! it was my brother 1983 f100. The red paint was faded to pink but the frame and underside of the truck looked like new. I drove the truck for several months till I got back on feet. Moral of the story...Oil your frames especially if you live in the northeast US.
I'll be trying to
Just what i do with my car and Yes it works great... love you Videos great work a lot of good tips...Alfie from England
Like all your videos. Especially the ones on the motorized bikes. Working on a couple of my own. I learned alot. Thanks. Keep the good work
Good old Toyota trucks they are hard to kill. The body and frames give out before the motor and trans.
Frame replacement and patching are still less expensive than a new truck.
Is it that joke. Frame give up in a few years.
Great truck and and for thanks for the continued education
I’ve had 2 sequoias, and 2 tundras. And they all tapped until they were “rarm”... 👌
That's crack manifold
I don't think chasing a cold tap is a major feature of this channel.
Seatbelt Mustie just saying like to keep you around!
You've done a great job mustie ! Thanks for the great video
Old trick from the UK, we used Vaseline to cover the chrome on motorcycles in the winter, no rust and no pits, did it on my stainless exhausts too. My bike looked shit all winter and shone so bright it'd blind ya in summer. Vaseline looks much better than oil on chrome work, lol.
The first generation tundras seemed to be built a bit better than the newer ones (2007+). Had far more issues with my 08 tundra than grandpa has had with his 05 tundra.
147k on the 05 tundra with the 4.7L V8, and the 08 tundra had 104k on it when I sold it this past summer, with the 5.7L V8.
Mustie, I'm surprised that you don't use, on 'new' vehicles you may keep a while, rust converter (such as CRC formula) after de-scaling. One or two treatments of that on already-surface-rusted components would protect those surfaces indefinitely via black oxide without a need for bar/chain oil re-treatment. And the thin, milky-white solution would work well in your spray guns. Plus you could also treat the vulnerable exhaust system, driveshaft, etc. without oiling your floor. And as well, no hydraulic wash off. You could recapture over-spray and drip-off with a large, low-profile tote bin, screen filter it and re-use, since it ain't cheap. I plan to do such on my old Explorer when the weather drys this summer, along with door-bottom rework and internal spray down. Oil spray and/or greasing, while effective, seems too messy, temporary and demanding of re-treatment. And once used, pretty much rules out the application of other rust treatments.
I have a 2006 Tundra. They sprayed that black crap on it a few years ago, it seems like it really made things worse for sure. My front gas tank strap broke and all the exhaust mounts are barely hanging on. I also got some bubbling around where the box is bolted on. I wish I could sue them for a new frame. I only have 113,000 miles on it. The power steering is leaking, replacing the rack for 1,200. My end links have been broken for years also. Other than that it runs like a top and rides like a caddy. No rust on the body anywhere. I do live in Wisconsin. Pretty surprised the body doesn't have cancer.
Now that's enough snow to make some half-size Beetles in the yard! XD
No doubt about it ,Mustie 1, you are a hard working man. Keep up the great work! I always enjoy your videos.
I appreciate that
Bar and chain oil, very efficient rust protection. Have you tried white spirits as a thinner?
I just sprayed my frame on my truck 2 weeks ago it was a mess im not gonna lie but it looks good thanks for the video on it
I spray all my vehicles wih oil and taken to brushing on a thick layer of grease on the suspension parts too.
I just seen the weather report looks like another nor’easter coming your way!
Glad to see you cleaned the rust and oiled this bad boy! Ignore my comment on another video then haha. Keep up the good work, I love your videos!
Interesting and informative. Please order some new batteries for the camera. Thanks.
You did a great job, seems to be holding up pretty well!
Yankee ingenuity! Great job.
What Tom said. Order some new batteries. I wonder if I need to undercoat my Dodge? The winters here in Florida’s panhandle are murderous. It almost snowed twice.
Do they salt your roads? If so, probably best you do something, or else rust will sneak up on you. I've yet to seen the car, truck what have you, that can take the salts on and laugh.
aserta my post was in jest. In the five years I have lived in Calhoun County, I think we have had one dusting that lasted 5 minutes.
If you live near saltwater or go near it regularly it wouldn't be a bad idea to coat it. That moist salty air gets into places and creates galvanic corrosion. No where near as bad as up here in the rust belt though.
Ha. Ha.
Blazer02LS I was in the Navy and worked for them for about 35 years. Done with saltwater! But you are spot on.
Got to say , that’s some nice welding skills 👌🇬🇧
Thanks 👍
Undercoating a vehicle that has been on the road is a no no for the exact reason you said.
Always a good watch, still the best show on youtube whatever you are doing
First generation tundra is a great truck. My 06 has 150 thousand and still has sixty percent of the original brakes.
You answered my questions later in the video. Thanks