Why LOW ELO ADC Players LOSE Team Fights! - League of Legends
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What ADC Guide do we release next? 👇
Make a teamfighting oriented champion macro guide
Get me a what to do after taking/losing bot turret, where to go, what to focus on, etc.
Also, how can I make the midlaner go bot when we need to push for mid?
How to snowball properly when ahead as adc.
How to outplay Boris
Ive always had issues dealing with mid/jungle double gank in the bot lane
There's no way anyone can resist finishing off a low hp Teemo.
You are so right in so many different ways
True
Tbh teemo is as useful dead as he is alive=All he does dmg with are shrooms and shrooms can be activated when dead
@@burstmage6982 yes but like its a joke because so many ppl hate teemo in toplane
@@mrrrb4104 yeah i use to hate teemo until I was playing tryndamere vs teemo and for some reason he didn't deal damage so i had a fun time
Step 1- Don’t get touched by something.
Step 2- If you do you are dead.
you mean, if you see the eyes, you are probably dead.
1:55 - no it's not true, Teemo is the most annoying champion in the game, thus you must always kill him with no exceptions. Ezreal did nothing wrong in this teamfight.
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How many times I've been flamed for hitting whats in front of me rather than "KiLl ThE cArRy" when they 2.5 flashes away neck deep, protected by their front line.
Bronze am i right
@@mrrrb4104 Yep, I’ll leave them everytime and then be told I’ll be reported post game. Bronze takes terrible fights where if you ward, farm and don’t take team fights you can typically pull the game back
@@FDT222 FoCuS eZrEaL who is 10km away from me has flash, heal and e and is protected my his maokai and malphite if i even touch him
And i dont even have mana as anivia because the fucking garen who doesnt use mana took the blue buff. Yes cdr is useful but is cdr more useful on a tank/bruiser or an a control mage who is ahead?
Bronze sucks and im 20lp away thx to skillcapped
@@mrrrb4104 talk that talk king!
@@FDT222 you too. Hopefully we both get out of here by next week
"Trying to play as a friendly team member is not AT ALL how a good player plays in low elo" *cries in support main*
😂 😂
I like how they say wukongs 1st engage was bad when it was a 1 for 4 while they advertise his 2nd fight where they went 4 for 4
@@Schimml0rd Outcomes are not how you evaluate a decision. Wukong's first engage was bad because he died. The second fight he played well because he didn't die. You can't do anything useful while you are dead.
@@ragefacememeaholic5366 wow you are so smart let me guess you are watching a lot of ls and are now officialy a challenger level analyst?
@@Schimml0rd tbf they said Wukong’s engage was good but in low elo you shouldn’t do what he did as you are relying that your 4 randomizes will do something off of that.
@@klauskeller6380 the fact they still went 4 for 4 after their fed Senna ran it down at the start is a huge success for Wukong. You need to watch more LS
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Tip;!!!
When wulong stands still it means he's accepting his death and it is the perfect time to spam all your abilities at him 💗
thank you for the tip!
it worked once but he duplicated somehow? And when i killed him i didnt get any gold or kill message,maybe a bug
thank you for the tip tho!
ITS A PRANK LOL
One incredibly crucial detail that you have to mention on the Kai'sa fight is that there was nothing to fight over, no objective. Her team started a fight with a numbers disadvantage for no reason. That is an extremely important piece of information when talking to players of low elo because as it is, the message that example gives (and the whole video to a degree) is "you play better than your teammates so nothing they do matters and you have to go in only to capitalize on mistakes" and that is a dangerous message to give low elo players because it's simply not true. You don't always play better than your teammates, you don't always know what's going on, you can't always capitalize on mistakes (primarily because you're not good enough yet) and ignoring a perfect engage like that had there been any epic monster or even inhibitor tower exposed would arguably be griefing.
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no that was actually a lost fight. If kaisas team played together maybe, but in that clip all they did was go in and die 1 by 1. Kaisa too would have died there if she even attempted to fight.
@@amalkrishna7742 thats what op said. the team started a pointless fight with no objective up while at a numbers disadvantage. there was nothing to gain, and everything to lose
I don’t know kaisas items, but looking at how many spells were burned from the enemy while also landing many insane ults that kaisa should’ve been able to murder many of them. Since this is 25 minutes in.
@@tomwanders6022 I agree, I think Kaisa had her chance to put in some DPS earlier when WK and Seraphine went in. and since Yasuo came over and hit the three men ulti she could probably follow that.
That feel when you’re Gold and still have teammates saying stop hitting the tanks and hit the carries to me as the ADC. I’m like yea let me step pass this fed sion to help you do your job
Just mute people that start mentioning this, i was so sick of it when i was in bronze/silver/gold
@@getjinxed2146 trying my best to get out of gold now. I think you right and it may be time to just mute people
@@SirBackPack Bad part is it happens in diamond too. It's like a virus infection spreading into every Elo its pure cancer
@@wargames43 I guess the good thing is now I’m plat since this post 😁
This. Enemy team has a Seju/Braum as front and my mid is like wtf u shootin tanks Trist. Incredible, lemme just W over them and flash on the Lucian, surely nothing will go wrong??
At 4:05 you can clearly see that the Neeko is playing Crit Neeko
Very Pog Moment
Where?
@@flameofmage1099 you can see her third auto proc kraken slayer
at 5:02 when you said you're like a crew that can't steer the ship like the captain do and you're using a miss fortune a literal captain lmao
I like how this guide showed both things to do and things not to do. It gives a better understanding of the role of the adc.
the nr 1 rule i learned when i picked up adc in season 3 was
"hit the target thats closest to you yet keeps you in the most protected position"
Me a Support main: Yeah! Exactly! Do what they are saying! It's totally not my fault!
Support is pain, your team will not pick a frontline if you pick an engage support. As a result: They will not peel for your ADC when you are at the front or they will not be the frontline when you are peeling the fed kayn off of your ADC
@@shikikankillzone4239 Plus I never managed to play engage supports, I really tried but my type was Enchanters and I main Yuumi, still I'm really happy I peaked at Plat IV with Yuumi, and I am even more happy that I have stopped playing
Someone send this video to every teammate I've ever had.
8:08 I can hear the questionmark pings being spammed
Ngl this guide, even though it’s correct and I agree with the content, is gonna make everyone even more selfish and toxic in soloq
Nothing wrong with being selfish to ultimately win the game
@@TheTitusification exactly if everyone is selfish, they actually try to win the game and not try to get other carry them.
In Team Games in general its often advised every member to be the strongest on the team, obviously that doesnt work, but it will push everyone higher and higher.
Sport Animes really going into this concept.
Haikyuu or better Kuroko no basket as probably the best examples.
like the wukong example.
everyone was able to carry the fight if someone made a mistake.
(with that i mean senna and wukong)
thats a team diff right there.
the wrong kind of selfish is my 1/9 adc taking my jungle while im 9/1 and half a screen away from it at 13min game time
"One player has to be sacrificed for the greater good and it should never be you"
That's my Akali gameplay right here.
Why low elo ADCs lose teamfights: They type too much instead of actually use their fingers to play
Wait my teammates have fingers?
well that is true my adc duo flames too much ,but she is god at farming ,almost 10 cs/m every single game and super kitin , cant get a better duo as a jungler. i just get her fat and enjoy the show
As an adc i have to give you a like, but i don't like it.
10:33 wtf is that wukong Q range XD
I said the same thing lpololol
it's the result of 200 years of collective gameplay design.
Just like yesterday when I was about to kill my opponent as viego and they auto me WHILE STUNNED by my w. I could easely have W out of there but I just assumed the game's most basic mechanics should be working fine lol
At max rank wukong q range is the same as vayne autoattack range.
@@ReivasMC Game designers don't fix bugs. Those are called programmers and trust me, their job ain't easy.
@@emanuelecorbellini5110 well I'm sorry for not having a degree on the mater. Fact is that these bugs are becoming more common and more severe which leads me to believe that the people taking care of the game right now are simply less competent than the team 5 or 6 years ago.
I'm not saying it's an easy job, but if it's that hard to do it this way, do it another way just so it works like it's supposed to. What good is it to have all these mechanics if they don't work?
actually for what he said around 6:20. I have to add something . You should NOT care of what someone random over the internet thinks of you. Just consider this. if you where real life friends. that flamer would have attacked anyone who was mean to you for the same mistake that he would flame you for. what I am saying is their opinion does not matter cause its always bias
Also they are low elo and bad so that's like taking investment advice from a Crack addicted homeless person. Not very wise. Even trailer park guy is better than him. Mute em both tho
@@TheKittyClink wow that explanation is perfect
Edit : Also is good not to type WP or GJ cause people tend to play worse after cause they believe you have high expectations now
Important note: Most computers can maintain 60-80 fps in 99% of league of legends gameplay, but go down to 20-30 fps in full 5 man blowouts. Make sure your comp aint washed
Seriously, this channel alone got me to Gold and rising. This is exactly what I need after a 4-loss streak as an ADC main yesterday.
I recently had a game where, as Ashe, I grouped with the team for a soul fight. We’re set up in the river near mid, with the enemy in their jg, grouped and taking care of wards (we’d warded everywhere). As I almost arrive, my team just runs left into a bush, as I’m left out in the open. I’m suddenly alone as the enemy gets to the river, with Naut hooking me, Kha’Zix jumping on me and Darius and the rest of their team running at me. I die over the course of around 2 seconds due to Shieldbow. My team now exits the bush and aces their team, taking no casualties other than me, with them all being above 50% HP. I guess they just decided I was bait, and the Caitlyn mid was the only ADC they needed. Kek.
LMAO
When we getting a update on namas bronze to diamond
I believe that series is over
@@magick8561 but he didnt get diamond
@@merlin396 did he not? i remember them saying that episode 9 was the last one they would make as it would cover all the basics a player needs to know.
@@merlin396 he got hard stuck and quit the game or does not play on the account anymore so the series is definitely over euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Super+Bubbles
@@magick8561 he got to gold and then got stuck by the looks of it
4:51 The sheer number of times since been flamed for backing out of a terrible fight and surviving on 1hp, is too high. The fight was never gonna work out, so why die for no reason?
Amen! Every time I play with my buddies my support goes full carry and starts fights 1 v 3 or 2 v 3 for the sake of placing 1 ward. Not only is it a bad matchup but he’s playing a scaling support while trying to fight as much as possible in the early mid game
Yep, using your defensive options to bail and barely survive a clearly bad engage is a recipe for instant missing pings from your entire team. The problem is too at low elo sometimes players are too conservative and bail on winnable fights. It is pretty frustrating to take an obviously winning fight while your bot teammates stand by and watch, leaving you to die. In a lot of cases it's better just to go down with the ship because A. it lets you limit test, B. sometimes the fights work out in your favor, and C. it preserves your team's mental.
I think these hard and fast rules are good more so to challenge low elo habits, rather than necessarily steadfast rules to apply to your games. League is very situational, so for example if I'm behind or the enemy team has a heavily fed assassin and my chances of coming back or impacting the game as ADC are minimal I'll just commit to whatever fight happens and die. But if I'm ahead and in a position to carry, or if I have a big shutdown, or if there's a huge wave and/or free tower for me to collect I'll bail.
Same thing with their "never teamfight" rule. Hector carrying while split pushing as ADC in low elo is more a function of his superior map awareness, decision making, and mechanics. They try to argue that it's better to funnel gold onto one person and that in teamfights the kills will be spread out, but in reality there's usually one person in each low elo game who is substantially more skilled than the others and all the kills will go to them. It doesn't matter if you're at 8cs/m at 15 minutes when everyone else is at 4cs/m when the enemy midlaner or jg is already 12/2 by that point.
Plus getting caught once or twice in a sidelane pretty much undoes any advantage you gained by split pushing. And it's very easy to get caught, especially when nobody wards and you don't have a good feel for how quickly various champs can get across the map yet. That being said these rules are really good for breaking out of bad habits. I used to always lose midgame because I'd just follow my team around while they pointlessly wandered looking to aram mid. My wr spiked when I initially started following the don't teamfight rule, but has been falling since I've swung too far in the other direction. It's all about finding a good balance.
I play lots of yuumi and kaisa and this happens a lot. Especially when I leave early and my team mate starts pinging me like would you rather me live or give them another kill or a shutdown?
@@trinityuwu4853 Exactly, like we weren't gonna win a 3v5 so why die trying?
@@TwistedTeaFate Just mute whoever flames
so in summary:
always bait your team into 5 enemies so you get fed
Man you hit every single point so well, i die with the team cuz i dont wanna be flamed 😭 and I also always prioritize the carry even if theres a tank in front of me
This is exactly where I am right now. I ditch ppl going into senseless fights and they ping "?" It gives a mentallity that it is ok to die to show them I did try to fight with them.
Lesson learned, don't play adc
9:00 As a Riven with flash this is most of the time me. The best fix I found is buying stopwatch. But it does feel coinflippy.
More ADC guides, please
agreed, adcs need to learn how to play the game and stop blaming the lack of impact on their class
@@ReivasMC glass cannons are pretty freaking hard to play, let's be honest.
First time I've seen some praise for low elo players! Haha! But seriously, great guide! Suffered hard on ADC today, came here to see a nice guide to fix my problems! Thanks!
yeah, though its probably just.
Oh a fight breaked out, lets join them.
Thank you so much for this, I've hit a plateau and this helped me alot.
Can you make a macro guide for supports? And how to solve the grouping and aram problem? I feel as if i can't push sidelanes and just look at 4 people sharing gold and exp on mid, bleeding waves on the sides just waiting for drakes and baron. What can i do to solve this? Or do i just coin flip those games and hope we win?
You can go duo with me and we can push side-lanes all day long lol
This isn’t the answer that you want but their website has multiple full courses on support carrying. I’ve never looked into it bc I play jungle but if you’re willing to spend the $5 a month it might be worth it to check it out.
Go brand and push lanes urself
Yeeees, more low elo Supports guides! It's been impossible to carry games when my team mates continusly die seaking useless kills by the jungle instead of taking towers or doing objectives. My main account it's on platinum l and the secondaries are stuck on silver l/gold lV 🤣, I play the same way and I think maybe that's the mistake. Lately I been taking Brand and solo carry fights/pushing sidelines by my self to win
I once was playing as Rakan and everytime I saw a lane too pushed into our tower I would push one or two waves then return to my team and the enemy team would be too late to get me
We won one team fight because of that because they were miss positioned in our jg and went on to win the game
got from silver 4 to gold 4 with your videos, thanks!
One game I had I was doing poorly as a Xayah, Caitlyn was pretty fed. I was barley working on my second item, So understanding the disadvantage I had against the enemy team, I chose to stay back in team fights and watch for anything I might be able to help with, but I ran away most of the time because my team would get obliterated by the enemy (none of us were very good except our lux). Later in the game after some farming and helping a little in some kills, I started to get my items, and was actually able to help in team fights and killed most of the enemy.
My top and jungle: All Xayah does is runaway from team fights and steals kills from me, gotta love it.
What an excellent vid!!! TY
There's an art to being selfish in low elo, as long as you at least look like you tried, your teammates will be less likely to flame and tilt
Your Adc guides are getting much better. They're starting to sound like they weren't made by an angry jungler, support, or mid laner. Good job 👍
10:50
I used to think that thinking like that made me a bad player
Glad to know its the opposite and I can use teammates more freely without guilt
Thx skillcapped this guide massively helped me.
I really dont know how to teamfight even thou I've been playing the game for 3 months.
The advice in this video is something most serious players in low elo need to keep hearing I think "mute your team and trust yourself" felt like the main theme of this video. I really need to do that more often. Problem is I main support and go for a more team-oriented playstyle D:
Mute your team, there is nothing useful that can be communicated through chat that can't be communicated through pings.
omg thank you for this video. i am an adc main and hacent really played ranked but almost every time i hit the frontline i get flamed while my frontiline just goes for whoever is killable and leave me without protection. im not saying that i always make the right choices (which im clearly not) but it kinda annoys me
This tips can also be applied to every role unless u playing a support or tank in which it is quite different
yes, playing tank or support has no advanced tips since it's brainless gameplay
that's why supports that can actually pull off plays are allways high elo
@@ReivasMC that's not true, tanks have a different set of abilities and skills they need to understand
@@ReivasMC PLSS support has brainless gameplay lmao?, you need to look at the map constantly and protecting your allies at the same time and also positioning the best way possible to not die first in order to support your team 😀🙂
@@meenispham anything can be made to look complex when you spell out every single detail you gotta do.
you don't have to farm, you can suck at mechanical skill and get away with it since most support require none, you don't need to have early game macro for the most part and all you do is little trades and ward. Mid game you gotta support your team, you don't need to pull off plays for the most part and you don't need to hardcarry, you're just a stun/shield/cc/heal bot. Support players are complete dogshit compared to their same ranked "peers".
The justification is allways the same "it's not that I'm bad at the game, I'm just a support player" lol Why do you think so many chicks play support and so few play lanes that actually requires skill? Support is a good place to hide your lack of skill.
Any mid/top/jungler/adc from your elo could outdo you as a support player if you give them a few games to practise, your role is pathetic.
the only supports that require actual skill to play in this game are pyke, sometimes leona, senna..... and I think that's about it off the top of my head. Most of them don't even have skill shots and they use basic combos. Get over yourself
@@victorgomezgarcia5630 yes "cleaver go there, truck-like hitbox, hit even when miss" or "lemme just play this lane like shit, throw away my hp and still win cause I can set up ganks way better than my bruiser opponent", "I'm vs an assassin? lol I beat them no mater what they do, they gotta land skills, I just gotta headbut the keyboard and win by default" or the classic "lemme just go full tank and outdamage this bruiser until he has 3 items lol, he can't snowball and carry if I tank all his damage face first and dish out just as much"
yes very skilled. That's why I don't play them, it's not that they are boring, they just require too much skill for me
Best positioning guide!
I didnt watch even 5 sec of this video but I lose my teamfight as ADC because of Kassadin deleting me in under 0.30 sec according to death recap.
If your team didn't win by the time kassadin is lvl16 then your team just deserves to lose.
well you were certainly in range of that kassadin.
Either you write something to your teammates to peel kassadin away from you or you just wait out of vision (you can buy controll wards) until kassadin has 0 mana or like is dead or something to then go in and carry that fight. Or you get Zhonyas,or Guardians or something and hope its enough.
@@mauer1 So basicly it is out of my control when he has flash, my team wont peel, we are during siege of their nexus so they have vision of me no matter what, he had blue buff and noone was able to kill him because my mid laner was the one that fed him in the first place. This is actual situation and it happens a lot. Left the game because this game sucks, see ya in hell.
@@alcor7416 well basically its out of your control then.
Yes, thats why ADC is sometimes really annoying to play.
I mean you can be outside of the enemy base somewhere not participating.
About the trist need to retreat situation is so similar to me if I back off even though I'm an assassin. I killed a key target and backs off but still my teammates just go straight to the enemies and died. Suddenly, they flame me for no reason but I know it is crucial for me to back off
This video is absolute gold. This is why you can't play this game with friends and have that friendship survive lol. "Just leave your team, play selfishly, hopefully they all die so you can clean up the kills and carry" how to win friends and influence people lol
it's talking about solo queue low ELO games. Not Low ELO team games.
This is a really great video that tells what a true adc needs to do in order to win !
7:50 is suboptimal general advice (also conflicts with your later point about using teammates as bait entirely). If losing/walking from the fight would result in losing baron or elder, you should take the risk and ult in as both walking away and losing the fight result in losing the game anyway as it’s
game isnt ending there
Thaks to this video I hard carried a game with garen in teamfights, TY skill capped.
So im still learning but I can think back recently to a few games where as a ACD there were some really bad fights and rather than going in and dieing I sit back and try to take a few shots and run when my team dies. Two times this happened I was flammed by my team saying I dont do shit.
well first of all, /mute all . or if you dont need pings. /fullmute all
that makes life way easier.
but I cant see if those fights in particular where correct, if you were able to carry them as teamfights are very random. 10 totally different champions with totally different items on a totally random map point with totally random cooldown isnt something i can predect of you saying, im an adc and those were bad fights.
ngl the way his voice sounded when he said "You see, you can't carry if you are dead" was perfect
Eve was infront of neeko on the map, how would you know that neeko would be able to walk right past her ? You can only look at the map so much and by the point you realise eve was greeding or unable to help it would have been too late?
Mmmmm I can't wait to spend 25 mins farming and hitting objectives from a safe distance. Super engaging gameplay.
well you picked adc not me.
play any other role
Good vid 😊
I'm realy bad at early farming.
One of the biggest mistakes I see is that people stop farming. And roam only for a fight or an enemy mistake. When I have 20 creeps some will have 36. At the end (when we are losing hard) I usually have 60+ cs more then the enemy player with highes cs.
Ur doing damn great job!
"League of Legends is a team game which should be played selfishly." Actually well said.
number disadvantage isn't the only thing the determines tf win/lose btw.
I can't help but feel this is a guid for smurfs trying to get their 2nd or 100th account high.
What about new players who want advice and actually want this to be a team game? - I get not dying to show support. But other than that, I would actually like to be of value to my team and fun playing with friends.
Wait you play league to have FUN?
A question regarding the Kai Sa clip, i understand the reasoning and her play was correct.
but how does she win from there? i have finished many games 1/1/1 with 300cs w teamates w 15 deaths each for not commiting to stupidity
4:59 pyke be like : no sir
I also feel like calling your teammates out on their mistakes and talking to them like their teammates and people can help you win. Sometimes people just need guidance I’ve never seen any of this LOL guides talk about that. What you teach players is to be selfish and not be team players and it leads to selfishness and entitlement in some players
You must be new to league, why would a random stranger will wanna hear you out? And do you know for a fact that everytime you waste time typing and they waste time reading that it will work out? Haven't you got hit with the famous "you talk too much" before?
It is simply not worth it, get on voice with a duo. Typing to strangers screwed me out of so many games.
great video
I don't think smurfs need a guide on how to win in low ELO.
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If you have enough skill to deserve moving out of your current ELO but aren't full-on smurfing, you can't play selfishly as instructed -- it's bad tactics. You don't have the experience to carry your team even if you get a bit fed. ADCs are notoriously fragile. If you play to get fed and 1v5, what actually happens most of the time is you eventually make a big mistake and throw the entire game. You've let your teammates die so they are down on gold/XP, you are higher level so your death counter is long, and the enemy team wins the game or takes 3 big objectives while you sit dead in base.
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Fragile roles like ADC are meant to enable your teammates to build tankier and take damage for you. They give up offense to survive, and you as the ADC absolutely must be in position to deal out the damage in their place. This means two things -- you must not be so far away that you can't attack, and you must not be so close that you get killed. If you aren't there, they die slowly and neither of you get any gold. If you die, they die afterward and neither of you get any gold. The only scenario where you get gold is when you are in position to deal damage while they take damage. They stall, you kill.
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Playing selfishly will lead you to play from too far away. You'll see that you are at risk and abandon the tank that just went in to buy you time to attack. They'll die, then the enemy will come for you. Only this time you have no tank, so you'll have to run again. You can't win that way. At some point you have to fight, and the best time to fight is that moment when your tank went in. Go where the tank goes, and only run once the tank loses aggro (or dies, and the fight is going badly).
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The two mistakes I always see from ADC players:
- going in first, forcing your own tank to rush in to save your sorry behind.
- not going in at all after your tank has committed to trying to fight
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Both of these are just leadership issues. As ADC, your tank tells you when to fight. If you don't like being the one who follows orders, you need to be playing as the tank not the ADC. That's just how LoL works; you'll cost your team (and yourself) wins if you are stubborn about it. And it's also why ranking up as ADC is hard; you need at least one competent tank on your team, who is making good calls on when to go in. There are 2-3 roles that often build tanky; top, jungle, and support. (Your mid is usually in the same boat as you, wanting a tank in front of them; even Yasuo who is melee ranged wants that.) The odds are not bad that you'll have at least one competent tank on your team. Figure out who is making decent calls, and don't let them down.
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I will say that if you have no competent tank, there's something as ADC that you can do. But it isn't "play selfishly". Tank up. The tank's job is to keep you alive so you can deal damage. If they aren't doing it or aren't able to do it, you have to keep yourself alive. It means doing less damage, in terms of raw stats and dps. But dead ADCs deal 0 damage per second, so you do the math. I would point you to Wit's End, Guardian Angel, and any number of items that have both health and AD on them to tank up while still building as an effective ADC. Sometimes just doing this will take the pressure off your struggling tank, which helps them get back into the game a bit. It can win a lost game.
What they are saying is not to necessarily 1v9 every game, is how to consistently get leads, not throw and then close the game. As an adc, your biggest job is to gain gold to hit your item spikes and do a bunch of dmg, and they already did a lot of guides covering that. The purpose of this video is to teach adcs how not to throw their leads by playing a team fight poorly. The adc job in the fight is to do as much dmg as they can without dieing, and knowing when the fight is already lost is a valuable skill since an adc dmg doesn't matter if you know u cant win the fight, so just getting away is the best option, cause if you dont die u can still farm lanes and jungle in order to keep getting gold, while if u just die with your team u cant get any gold, which delays your farm and items, and risks giving shutdown bounty for the enemy, which is even worst. Playing for the team is good in organised play like clash or pro play, but in solo q the only thing u can do to get better is to find consistent ways of impacting the game positively. And as an adc, that way is to simply win lane, farm everything, get items, do dmg and dont die. Thinking on a team perspective doesn't help cause it relies on your team being good enough, and in soloq, sometimes they are, sometimes they are not. The only factor you can control is yourself, so the only way you can get consistent is to learn how to abuse your leads the most effective way, and use that to win your games without necessarily relying on your teamates to do their job well. If they are good you have an easy win, if they are bad then u need to find a way to carry them. It wont work every time, but if works most of the time then thats enough to get better at the game and climb
reminds me of Invader zim leadership and tactics
This was a good video. I like how you used bad examples of adc's for, at the same time, saying "they win here because X did a good job" and vice versa (good job adc. Bad job X). And then explaining the why.
Me Mundo JG Lethal Tempo. Enemy mispositioning=them not sitting in base bc I can run down 3 people under turret
Because they are 0/10 in laning phase
Hey that's yasuos typical powerspike XD
@@Naozwc Sadly botlane has no powerspike. They just keep running off a cliff
That fight at 7:40... I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to stay away. even if it’s a 4 v 5 I think as Kaisa you ult to the left of Swain when he gets knocked up by WuKong kasia gets iso Q damage off and pretty much instakill him. Assuming the rest of his teams cc comes through as it did it’s just a won fight with Kasia hitting autos. And they have extra armor/mr from mountain soil. Yasuo went in 1 v 3 and killed the swain. With kaisa autoing it’s a won team fight. I generally agree with the idea of walking away at a lost fight, but that doesn’t seem like a good example
i love it when you guys say things that are the total opposite of my gold friends
Yay i actually do all of this!! though sometimes not properly.
If ur team flames u for ditching a fight just let them know that there was no way u win that. And pls, skillcapped never mentions this, but try to ping ur allies back.
And i usually am the bait myself (for those kayns and panths who cant resist it if an adc is within range not for the entire opponent team) and it works out most of the time and i dont die!!
as a gold top player it feels like bot throws the game the most often even though jungle and mid have more game impact
I see a lot of bad low elo adc but I also see a lot of bad support doing wave clear when their adc is already low at that point I would switch roles and focus poking enemy team for cs with a support poke item in desperation.
1:59 so satisfying to see all that Teemo blood spilled
One big issue I have with adc teammate is they do copy paste build rather than build against comp. 3 tank/bruiser with armor? Let me build last whisper 5th.
5:20 thought he was talking about a space ship to be honest.
a great el dorado meme: sacrifice... then the sacrifice is yourself
People compulsively ping the ADC when they die in bronze, they can't comprehend that I can't teleport to every losing engagement they attempt. Bronze 1 don't expect to be allowed to farm as an ADC, team are constantly rage-fighting, chat mute is a blessing
Oh gosh... I've been doing all of this
I just rather get so stupidly fed in botlane I can 2 shot everyone. Much easier than having to think.
I would have liked to know more about your logic of "League should be playing selfishly and you should use the mistakes of your low elo teammates to carry the game" when it comes to the support role.
That one iirc requires a very team fight heavy/damage heavy roaming support and getting ahead with good plays in lane and in good roaming opportunities toward Jungle/Scutt/Drake, then again toward Mid and then again up toward Herald/Top based entirely on careful monitoring of how foolproof you ahve set up your botlane.You can't contrl the Jungler your supporting. You can't control the Mid you're roaming to. You can't even control the ADC you're relying on safely farming. But in the right roam windows you should at least be able to get something done every time you're in of said positioniong. Be that if you get roam timing and invade the enemy jungler or gakn on drake/scutt with your jungler. Maintain vision. Gank mid. Or just hover for joint pressure Mid/Bot. But it's the kind of that feels more limited to champs like Zyra, Brand, Velkoz, Xerath, Pyke, Sett, Pantheon, Seraphine, Sona (???), Senna, Bard, Lux, Morgana (???), etc. Essentially: The more agency your support pick has in actually deciding a teamfight,t the betteri t should be for selfishly carrying. Also I feel like Mejai's is an almost necessity (obvs not ony Pyke or Senna) due to the economic value and scaling potentitial plus enhance roaming/map prio. While it's probably possible to carry on other champions, When you're agency in a teamfight is something like chain-stun the enemy and home your teammates have the wherewithal to actually do the damage on them before the CC wears off and the enemy just kills you, well... That would probably be way more difficult. Whereas letting your team int just to land a good Brand-Ulti could very well win you a teamfight on its own. Regardless of whether your teammates decide to try and help.
all of this play selfishy is pretty much teamfight related, as the avarage catch supporter like thresh or morgana, you rather catch roaming enemies off guard than commiting fully to a teamfight.
but if you get into a teamfight you would still play pretty selfishly, making huge areas for yourself to stay in. and looking for good all in spots.
Like when an enemy jumps onto your carry and you cc'd him, you took your carry as bait to get your spells onto that target. (also pretty much helps your carry, i mean you are a support after all)
As an enchanter this is way easier, as you are doing it anyways.
you are sitting way back behind your backline and looking as they are fighting each other, while providing utility to basically everyone and carrying with that.
As utility is way overpowered in any game.
Soo anwser my question now, as a support, how i applie this ideas?
as an enchanter, exactly like that.
dont die while you carry your team in a teamfight. (like you litterly are hard carrying teamfights because you picked an enchanter)
as a mage, you obviously do the exact same but with damage.
as litterly anything else, you dont wanna let it be a teamfight.
as tanks you have to know what you do anyways as a tank.
Yes, when i play zac support I always sacrifice my fed adc so I stay alive
Only problem is if 3 or more teammates report you they dish out punishment... so even if your playing perfectly by not dying if your teammates see it differently youll just get banned
Ezreal did the right thing.
There was two options for him regarding Senna :
- Trying to fight her back, which is pretty much impossible because of how fed she is ;
- Kiting back towards Gragas, who was up against Shaco/Yuumi, who could've stopped chasing the fat guy to kill him. Plus, he would've pulled Senna away from the incoming Hecarim.
Even if he did the latter and somehow survived with his team still killing Shaco, Yuumi and Senna, Teemo would've been at base by now, ready to defend the turrets with his mushrooms. There's no way Ezreal could've stayed to push if he was low, and there's no way Hecarim could've pushed the way he did if Teemo was alive.
Plus, given how low Hecarim was after killing Senna, if Teemo wasn't dead, he definitely could've finished him off.
Most of the time you can not attack the one closest to you because you deal not enough damage, your team gets shred by their damage dealers and then they kill you. I often try to focus the ones that deal a lot of damage first because I think we could easily take out the rest after. To me it feels like there is only games where my team and I get stomped really hard or we obliterate them, there is nothing in between. If a garen for example is 10/0 you can not ignore him but focusing him will give the rest of their team enough time to shred us and its lost...
If you aren't dealing enough damage to tanks you aren't getting A: enough gold B: enough armor penetration
To remedy A farm better you should be ending every game on average 6 cs/m at the bare minimum. To remedy B get a lord dom's or serylda's grudge. Trust me when I say it is the adc's job to kill the tank.
@@ragefacememeaholic5366 right but how can I get more gold, if its a heavy poke lane or enemy jungler is constantly there? I seem to fall behind so hard that I cant do anything
The problem of these guides is that most people suck, so you get teammates from hell that think they did the right thing after throwing. The mindset you describe is only useful in a handful of players, so it is really annoying how recurrent it is becoming in low elo ranked games.
If ezreal uses flash early that also wouldve gone way better
Kaisa practicing social distancing in low elo.
I still dont understand how to play asc tho...this means if im a jinx or something like that and there are 2 assasins, i am just not allowes to fight at all...and should just stay back or what...because an assasin always goes for the adc and there is no way out if a fed zed or akali wants you...like...what are you supposed to do...farming? to get extra 100 dmg to still get oneshot
I follow ur guides on yt since season 8 i am to young 2 buy ur subscription sadly they are so fucking good never seeen such guides before so much effort putinto this
Who noticed the ad nekko??
Me, an AP Sona support main: hmm, I am bait yes.
This is the problem with my matchmaking is that my team ints so hard every temfight that I can’t carry
what you didn't mention is that if the ezreal didn't blow everything to finish teemo his darius would have spam pinged him and flamed him for "letting teemo get away". The Darius convinces the team that ezreal deserves to lose and starts a surrender vote. Hecarim is the only no and the surrender goes through 4 to 1. Worse yet, the darius is played by tyler1 who tilts off the planet and starts running it down mid over and over.
NGL most of the time in my silver games I purposefully put myself in a situation where I misposition on purpose to die and which allows my team to swoop in. I'll admit I only use this tactic if I'm aware I have a fed member on my team in a position to capitalise on it and if the position it puts the enemy team in is beneficial for my team in a fight. More often than not if this doesn't happen it can be upwards of 3 minutes of Aram to achieve nothing but a flame when you decide to push a side lane because Aram in ranked is a waste of time. Having said this I'm silver so what do I know.