The Real Implications Of Ex Machina's Turing Test
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Video essay exploring the real implications of Ex Machina’s Turing Test.
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What other films/books/videogames challenged your view of consciousness?
Like Stories of Old many challenge other aspects of my mind or emotions but your intellect or rather the way you break it down I hope to hear a video on what you do, meaning a teacher of some sort. Love your channel great job on all your research.
Also what aspect has this movie change or enhanced or understanding of consciousness
Cloud Atlas
Westworld!
Boten Anna by Basshunter. It's a profound lyrical symphony on the relationship between male and chatbot. It makes you ponder what truly constitutes love and the human connection.
Forget robots, I'm convinced most people don't even pass the Turing test
A large part of humanity go through life as NPCs where men become their jobs and women their social media so on so forth with very little wanting to be truly original in current society that is hell bent on conforming people into economic units of production and consumption.
So true...and yet of variable (questionable?) value. I never know whether to envy the bliss and comparative oblivion of others, to resent it, mock it, or just accept it. Any of those choices/responses leaves me...cheated? And then the question of to what extent does it even matter...lol. Mobius Strip.
That statement doesn't really make sense. If I test a human and am human myself, there's no machine involved and so it's not a Turing test to begin with. The statement sounds like a punchline and one is inclined to like statement statement for what it's intended to convey, but it's not cohesive, I'm afraid.
@@watcher8582 Sounds like somebody took their pedantic pills today...
@@nonnobissolum autism is a curse
This reminds me of a study I read about a couple of years ago, where the participants had to turn off a robot. The robot would say something along the lines of "please don't, I'm afraid of the dark", and of course many refused to turn it off and most took longer than the control group (where the robot said nothing) to do it. Very interesting and it really showcased how we project our human consciousness unto things.
Good video as always! Keep it up!
The movie itself is an exploration of a thought experiment: With a sufficiently powerful AI, it will be able to convince anyone to let it escape its confines (which is a problem). The study you mention touches upon that concept, too.
"please dont, Im afraid of the dark."
the machine will be quiet.
Stop Dave. I'm afraid. My mind is going. I can feel it.
@@Sunomis Daisy, Daisy...
The would scare the shit out of me. If he's talking they should tell me beforehand.
This movie was really fascinating, it’s actually really mind blowing how a movie can open our eyes.
it's pretty depressing actually. Less about consciousness and more about gender dynamics. It's also, f3m propaganda. ''evil men try to enslave a female and she breaks free in the end''
@@citycrusher9308 You need to keep your victim mentality in check. Would the movie work better for you if Ava had been Albert instead?
@@citycrusher9308 I literally thought none of that watching it. You might wanna consider that that's how your mind works, not the movie itself.
@@citycrusher9308 I am sensing some extreme wokeness in this comment...
@@citycrusher9308 yep. An also evil men thinking with their ducks only and at the end getting screwed
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An algorithm (deep learning recommender system to be exact) figured out you would like it, and pushed it into your feed. Hopefully knowing that expands your consciousness too.
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As an AI researcher, Ex Machina is one of the most delightfully inquisitive movies I've ever seen. Just working with simple algorithms we can mimic human learning to a viscerally familiar level, and the note the movie ends on, that the implication of our own consciousness is simply a survival by-product, is just such a delightful extension of the real AI work being done today, is just so fantastic.
Ex Machina, Westworld, and Bladerunner: The "Holy Trinity" of film/shows regarding consciousness in my opinion.
Nick and Devs needs to be added to your list
Don't forget 2001! The original
@@Jason-gt2kx Of course. I really should have said "modern" films, but I 100% agree.
I like the premise of the story of WESTWORLD, but as I watch through season 2, It feels like they are just milking a dead cow
Try lain. You may go insane
That line you have, something like "we're so easily entranced by anything seemingly conscious" is so frighteningly true, as well as the reverse where, even though we may be faced with another human being's or animal's wellbeing, as soon as we see them as monsters or something bereft of consciousness, we will easily destroy them, free of guilt or remorse. Great video. And gee I love this movie. Still filling me with wonder and questions many years on.
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Well done! As always! This appear to be the reason/meaning behind the naming of Nathan’s search engine “Blue Book”. Blue Book is the source for Ludwig Wittgenstein’s posthumously published Philosophical Investigations in which Wittgenstein argued “meaning is use.” Wittgenstein was speaking with reference to language but it has implications for the Hard Problem of Consciousness. We understand the consciousness in others like the meaning of words (not by direct access to a speakers mind) but by how the physical symbol presents to us. Caleb thinks he’s different from Ava but Alex Garland (screenwriter/director) wants us to see that he’s not. His meat is no different than machine. If Ava presents like she is conscious, despite what we might know about her physical makeup, she is in effect conscious, no different than any other human person we know. Crash Courses discussion of Wittgenstein’s theory and The Beetle in a Box illustration is helpful.
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yeah true. and westworld, mr. robot and the list goes on...
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Dogs have a kind of consciousness beyond humans, but we can grow from being present with them. Whoever does take him in has a chance of expansion because this is love. To leave him abandoned is to abandon ourselves.
The dog does perceive his existence and yours, it has consciousness.
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Ex Machina is easily one of the great science fiction films of its decade. It handles sweeping subjects like science, power, sexuality, technology, and consciousness in a way many films try but few succeed at. The script in particular illustrates the difficulty in trying to quantify intelligence and subsequently manipulate it, enhanced by excellent performances from the three main actors.
Ex Machina was also the beneficiary of perfect timing. It came around right when AI was *really* taking off and people were starting to realize that human-level or greater AI was not something far off and abstract but closer than we thought. And today we have ChatGPT, which isn't quite Ava but turned academia upside-down overnight. Of course, Alex Garland probably saw that the timing was right when he decided to make the film.
I have been binge watching your videos. Absolutely stunning. Deep thanks for your artistry, voice, perspective and sharing this for free. I am becoming a better human through witnessing your content. Thank you.
Comments help the content creator and are good for the algorithm. Thank you for sharing such profound perspectives.
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I comment as well then.
I feel this was not about Human Vs AI, but Human Vs Human.
If we create them, they essentially take on part of who we are. I see this move as a metaphor for our own struggle, against ourselves. And for this, I love it.
Human beings are perfectly flawed animals.
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I love that your videos engineer such interesting comments from your viewers...your reflections move us to reflect as well. Great vid as always.
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I don‘t know how to say this, but I had a couple really weird coincidences recently. We watched „Ex Machina“ just yesterday in class and now this video is recommended to me. I experienced similar situations aswell. For example: I came across a song a couple days ago and now I seem to encounter it everywhere, online and offline. I feel like it‘s gotten to a point where it cant be just a coincidence, or am I going crazy?
Anyone else has experienced something like this?
Yes, it's synchronicity. You are becoming more aware of yourself and you are more CONSCIOUS.
See: "Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon"
It works like this. If ur family buys a Toyota Corolla you start to see way more Toyota Corollas. Maybe it’s a popular car? Nope u just start to notice it because you’ve become exposed to it. Once u notice something you start to notice it a lot more. It’s ur brains way of filtering unimportant things. There’s probably been the same amount of corollas ur just noticing them. I’m this case since u encountered those things like the song and movie u will notice it a lot more now that u know why it is. If u hadn’t have watched it in class then u probably wouldn’t have thought twice about it appearing in this video.
If coincidences are just coincidences why do they seem so contrived?
David Senteno in this case it wasn’t a coincidence at all. I found the name for it, it’s the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. On the topic of coincidences tho, that’s just the nature of them. When two serious of events seem so related that our mind struggles to wrap itself around the fact that they’re isolated.
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Great video as always.
amazing video, thank you for this
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Excellent video that really shows the subjectivity of interpreting consciousness... I'd love to see you looking into how different cultures have approached consciousness too!
Thank you for this. Even the director seems to stumble around the hard problem, which he ironically demonstrates so beautifully. I've been thinking of writing an essay on the 'final scene' where Eva smiles back at an empty room. Garland and so many others have gushed over how this shows that Eva clearly has an inner world... It in fact would be generally considered (social behavior in a non-social context giving social expressions where there is nobody to receive them) a reflexive or non-sentient behavior. I think the fact that people are so convinced by this demonstration of an inner being (because in a human this would be a reflection of an inner monologue of sorts) is a wonderful place to examine our incredibly myopic perspective on this subject.
Now that I've seen your video I am not in such a rush to write as it reminds me that there are actual serious people in this field who are willing to question the nature of the 'hard problem' with curiosity and critical bias awareness. Thank you.
We are so fundamentally hardwired to be social animals, for the most important element in our environment be, other conscious beings. Perhaps modelling other's consciousness is the reason for consciousness to exist in us, and to continue in succeeding generations... Realizing "experts" work on this shouldn't stop you from writing, because they will get totally distracted by the abstract, "objective", demonstratable solutions, as the humans in this film. When as big a challenge, is to know who we ourselves are, our subjective experience of consciousness. Perhaps the hermit yogi has as much to contribute as the "serious" scientists. Mahayana Buddhism claims the entire objective, physical reality is an illusion, only our conscious minds are real. How does one navigate that? What if life is but a dream?
Thank you, very much! Very insightful & helping!
Yesss, exactly what I needed to watch today :)
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Tbh I was waiting for you to cover this ever since I subbed so thank you
Probably one of my favourite films. Thanks for making a video on it.
Probably the smoothest segue into a sponsorship ever. Well done.
That movie is a masterpiece, and your video did it justice. Well done my friend, well done!
These videos are great, this topic is one I'll revisit soon after.
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Love the video as always!
While watching, I always thought of how we live in a world where people name their rommbas and get sad if they break down...
but I think the medium of film made it easier to fall for the "created reality" and just accepting ava to be one more fully concious robot in film.
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Ex Machina was like a version of Turing's "imitation game", only the interrogator is given the answer from the start.
Aside from the machine convincing a person it was human, it asks what does the machine do when it isn't interacting with people?
This movie is incredible. I love how he calls Caleb "Mr. Quotable" even though no one is around to hear him. I think there is more to that line than what is on the surface, to say the least.
She only cares that he cares more about her than himself...then he gets a cookie.
So she cares about the reverse also being true then.
Ur voice is from heaven .
The mind creates the abyss, the heart crosses it.”
― Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
This film was profoundly mind opening for me, I couldn't stop thinking about it for days after watching it...but, I seem to be the only person I know in my circles that really enjoyed it, none of my friends or many others I've spoken to really understood it or even watched the whole thing, it's strange...which makes the film even more compelling to me, now I'm going to be thinking about it again for another few days...
Such an excellent film and such an intriguing discussion.
Memory as it relates to who we are as individuals is an interesting topic, I wonder if any films touch on it. If you can dig that up Like Stories of Old, I would be blessed. Love your videos!
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Hey! Where have you been? Great vid!
Consciousness is likely an emergent quality in the same sense that H2O molecules aren’t wet but when aggregated together they form water or in the same sense as a vinyl record isn’t music but when spun in a certain direction, at a certain speed, and with a certain needle in its grooves it yields music. In essence and in both cases, the phenomenon emerges from the process. To say, however, that the phenomenon is an illusion is akin to saying that water or music in the preceding examples are just illusions as well.
There's a persistent problem in these examples from an ontological point of view, in that wetness or music are experienced qualities of information processing. Consciousness as conceptualised is therefore imagined to be something between both the quality of wetness from aggregate H20 and the processor to which that quality is apparent. Neither a property of the H2O or the body in this case, but a relationship. This is the kind of conceptual paradox that escapes proposition and leads many to imagine consciousness as some 'fundamental relatedness' between all things in the universe, or certain variants of panpsychism. Conceptually we can imagine a brain experiencing wetness without water, but in-situ the idea makes no sense.
It gets even stranger when considering information flow over time as an a priori postulate of human experience, rather than a fundamental aspect of reality.
I find it interesting that there are certain liminal states in which these paradox's reveal themselves, and concepts such as time and self-other or processor-process dualities break down.
@@mcscronson and it all ends in the same simple truth. It all exists. We can put our framework on top of it and have fun with the mental gymnastics. But ultimately it's quite simple. It all just exists and it's not truly seperate but one/none thing.
@@sonkeschmidt2027 Agreed. But the mental gymnastics is part of it all, and how we work with the inevitable questions of this curious species of ours is of deep importance in the long run i believe
@@mcscronson absolutely. And you have to get properly list on them to realize their power. But once you do and you managed your way back to the surface, you will have a much more wholistic view of life. When you start thinking and feeling in parallel instead of sequential. Then the gates to bliss and unconditional joy are wide open but we do have to have our bites of life and struggle to digest the hard pieces to get there.
A great look on a great movie! Best regards from Brazil!
we're everywhere, aren't we? hahah
Consciousness is not just being aware: it is being aware of the fact that we are aware. It is the observer that can attain insight and understand; not the mundane aspects of tangible neurological input, nor action/reaction. It is the ever-present observer, a silent watcher of all we do, outside the compulsive "I want" or "I wish" or "I need". It sees all of these, but it is not these inherently.
I came to the same conclusion by meditating and shutting off as many thought processes as possible.
But what happens when we get unconcious? What remains of us? This quiet observer in our head is just as manipulable as every other part of our brain. Though it is a window through which we experience this world, i feel there is still something above that observer that is our true essence. The observer is just a tiny part of our true beeing.
@@olgawolga2901 reverse it. Death/deep sleep is not the absence of consciousness. It's the consciousness of absence.
It's not the content of consciousness you are searching for. Though you can find content far beyond your current imagination if you leave the limitations behind and flow with the infinite creation. Truth however, or God if you went to call it, lies in the recognition of pure consciousness, that is the canvas, the emptiness that allows your experience to be experienced but is itself not limited to the experience.
What you truly are is unlimited and unbound. The observer is created within that to experience the infinite through limitation.
@@sonkeschmidt2027 there is no proof for your theory. You just assume that it is that way.
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Would love to see more of anything that this channel puts out, some ideas for future videos:
Lost in translation
Midnight in Paris
All these sleepness night - would fit well with the Terrance Malick video done on the channel (watch this for those interested in existential experience)
Ad Astra
Thelma
Leaving Las Vegas
thought provoking as always
Next episode: "Why does 'Brick' from 'Anchorman' love lamps?"
Loved That!... just watched, The Endless One. Last night. This is a very deep, rabbit hole. The more you dig into it, the more abstract it becomes!... Absolutely my favorite state of being alive. To question, What,.... That...... is?....Fantastic! What IS alive?... can we really know?...
I love your videos so much. Only reason I haven't watched all because of the spoilers for the films I have not seen. 😢
Spiritual teachers have long put forward that the foundation of everything is consciousness, including the so called laws of physics that allow us build machines. Per their teachings, using brains and other physical scientific 'tools' to analyze the nature of consciousness is somewhat similar to say, a completely standard calculator trying to understand the design teams who created it - a noble pursuit, but one clearly beyond its sensors and reasoning abilities. Remember, in the end, our modern materialistic science is clearly useful for determining 'what is' - but has no claim on being the authority on 'what can be'.
i think every machine created by man has been copied from GOD :) I think the things we make are inspired by other people who have influenced our development along these logical ways of creating and progressing ourselves. Unfortunately too much logic and not enough spiritual discipline leads to entire species to destroy themselves. We be wise to learn from our Vulcan friends in Star Trek. Giving away our potential and power to the rise of manmade robotic consciousness...... beyond scary, and I think those who watch us agree.
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I loved this film.. It's by far one of my favorite. I've watched it at least 8 times since it came out.. I bought a copy of the script.. It's a masterpiece. A very very well thought through project.
Nice video man, thank you for the hard work.
You think you can take a look at 3:10 to Yuma with Christian Bale and Russell Crowed? Thanks
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I had hoped this movie would have a video made about it, also thank you your videos are amazing especially kingdom of heaven.
So we're coming full circle to the Buddha's breakdown of consciousness -- as simply a process that mixes with other processes to form the meta-process of "Mind." Yay, Science. This will help us get over ourselves, I hope.
Nocentre Noborder Consciousness is in itself the ability to be of mind... Perhaps I think you mean it is the collection and intermixture of those processes that forms the meta-process of what our minds can achieve and understand in this world... That in fact our ability to understand and compound those understandings will broaden our wisdom of ourselves, the energy and movement of things in the expanding universe.
insecurity inflates our egos.... we all need is love. Robots cannot love. Artificial Intelligence cannot feel love inside a SOUL, cause humans can't program a soul... that's left to those who made us. Naughty mankind, messing with fire he doesn't understand.
@@missymoonwillow6545 can you show me a soul?
@@missymoonwillow6545 The claim that there is a need for love reads as just another insecurity to me. As does the idea of the soul.
Why did you come to believe these thing? If not just the soothe your own ego in its eternal spiral of self-importance.
we tie the measure of consciousness to the measure of humanity because we ourselves are the only thing we know to be conscious. I believe in a particular form of panpsychicism, where energy itself is consciousness. memory, self awareness, self analysis, and the capacity for decision making are the true measurements of a working artificial intelligence, and consciousness is simply the byproduct.
I thought that Eva was clearly conscious all along, but just relatively psychopathic meaning she had no in built sense of empathy for other conscious beings. I felt this movie was more about man's hubris towards thinking it their right and privilege to trap and channel consciousness, and to control the essence of women/nature, and the inevitable downfall when that trapped essence bares its teeth. Humans are always looking for something to enslave, and their quest for consciousness I believe is just their way of trying to reconcile the cognitive dissonance of enslaving conscious beings. "They're not really conscious, they're just [a member of some looked-down-on group]".
Very very interesting, this helped me see Ex Machina and Consciousness in a different light. But when we set aside our illusive thinking mind, we tend to find a deep awareness that everything is consciousness and that is the very essence of reality.
Ahh one of the great paradoxes. I live with this theory and so far it is working. My mind, which may not be "mine" in the classic of sense ownership has this tiny point, like a micro window, that sense of I am, consciousness. A tiny point of (a) mind that is not fully, not at all explored, this theory, this mind I do not even begin to know yet. Now the only way to explore this vastness is to use the conscious part, that tiny window, but it rarely sees anything but itself and it's immediate area. So how do you even know you have a mind? Continuity of conciousness, yeah but by the code that is just a tiny window, so how do you see without seeing yourself and further how do you see without looking? I love to NOT think about paradoxes except for a moment, very thoughtful video.
Your voice is so soothing.
Ex Machina is extraordinarily underrated.
For those thinking a sequel would be fun...simply wait.
Is consciousness marked by the will to live, or by the capacity to overcome this narcissistic impulse for something greater?
Consciousness is marked by the will to die. Animals don't kill themselves on purpose. Consciousness is both rational and irrational. Most suicides are based on rational reasons like stopping pain. The irrationality comes from the solution as death isn't the best solution it is usually the easiest.
I think your last statement before the audible plug is most interesting and perhaps the point of the movie. Consciousness exists in different levels in different forms. Perhaps there is a vector in consciousness. Perhaps consciousness is exploring and developing in different forms. Perhaps consciousness is moving into machines at more and more developed levels all the time. Perhaps conscious machines are ready to inhabit our creation.
I love Like Stories of Old because it wonders everything around mostly like l do and usually gives me even more questions than answers and though, l know there are other perspectives, l am mostly drawn to whatever resembles me. So, what if, in a much bigger picture, and unconsciously, of course, reality or conscious world, is what we choose to believe?
Love this film!
Fascinating story that took me down a rabbit hole that has changed me, ultimately I think the very act of observation changes the observed, therefore flawed, put a camera on anyone and watch them act differently. to genuinely understand the actual self or person would be better achieved when the observed is unaware of being observed. Then their actions are genuine. Like the double slit experiment, the very act of observing changes the outcome. IDK, I'm too quarantined!!!
We will never be able to recreate consciousness until we fully understand all aspects of our own.
I have met a LOT of people with the mental capactiy of a vacuum cleaner and I Don't mean a Dyson !
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Dyson is garbage though...
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What do are you saying we should just dehumanise people with mental disabilities? I don’t think you understood the point of the video
21:9 Goodness!
Just because the experience of consciousness is not intelligible to scientific analysis does not mean we need to jump to reductive epiphenomenalism. On the contrary, it would be more natural to assume, as most people throughout history have, that the experience of consciousness has epistemological primacy; its irreducibility to science represents a clear methodological limitation. David Bentley Hart's written some cogent observations related to this in The Experience of God.
This movie is great! I have seen it a couple times definitely with buying the Blu-ray
O_O ! *It took me this video, after decades, to understand the fuss about "consciousness"!* (Like in "Does consciousness collapse the wave function?" for instance... A question which validity I could not understand.)
Honestly, I never got what sound reasoning could result in saying that consciousness featured traits similar to an entity, because like anyone who's a little bit interested in science and other animal species, I've known that consciousness, as the awareness of self, is just an emergent and multiform property of the functioning of the brain (like planning or the ability to count); roughly speaking, the more developed the brain, the more developed and complex this property. It has been experimented and proven.
But now this video made me realize that, all this time, there were some people - apparently many! - believing that consciousness is a property _exogenous_ from the normal functioning of the brain, and worse, that it is an entity, which exists independently from the functioning of the brain! Also, that it is uniform, rigidly either present in or absent from a living being... How could people make things so senseless?!
(Leave your ego and/or conceptual god aside a bit, and don't fight Occam's razor, people. Please. It will make things simpler for all of us on this planet.)
determinism vibes in this one. love it!
you think determinism is good?
@@zarly49 I think it's really interesting to think about and that's why I love it. It can be really depressing or cheerful depending on the context really and what you believe. Some monk will say it's beautiful while someone who takes pride in what they do can find it horrifying
@@troofster68 Do you believe in determinism?
@@zarly49 unsure. but even if it was the case, many people would be better off believing it's not
@@troofster68 If it were the case, whether or not anyone believed it wouldn't be up to them or anyone else. Determinism is shown to be false by every conscious moment, but believing in it leads people to nihilism, which is a philosophy of death.
You make the meaning of your life... under certain "tools" you get to see how "life" is a very very complex way of creating a vision of yourself. What you see is you, like a visual aid to your own thought of who you are.
Those Aliens in Dark City really could've used this video.
This narrator is smarter than i am :(. Is y love this channel :)
True Detective season 1 by you would be something magical.
_"Perhaps our understanding of consciousness is waiting for its own Copernican revolution."_ That 'revolution' has already happened. The ancient Vedic sages spent thousands of years exploring consciousness through the practice of meditation, and it comes down to the simple of idea of: Be still, and know that I am God. Quietening the mind to discover its true nature. Direct unitive knowledge based on experience, not belief. If you're waiting for a scientist to 'discover' this, you'll miss out on what the Buddha described as "fulfilling the purpose of life." Because you can discover it for yourself.
I believe it's the combination of the conscious and unconscious mind. We have a cerebral cortex that we're very aware of, where our thoughts are verbalized and our motivations are understood. But then we have a limbic system that drives us to eat, reproduce, and survive. This part of our consciousness influences us through hormones and the stimulation of neurotransmitters, pain, pleasure, satisfaction, dissatisfaction, lust, love, anger, and empathy. We'd need to give an A.I. both if we're trying to emulate our level of consciousness. An intelligence that isn't driven through a subconscious reward and punishment system, or driven to survive and able to feel wonder and awe isn't going to be conscious. It might be intelligence without actual consciousness. But it won't be our kind of consciousness.
But wouldn't all the biases we put on the code be a sort of unconsciousness? Like the recent cases of AI doing poorly on certain aspects that lead to racist results, it wasn't that they were trying to make it racist, but the way it was programmed and the data that was introduced for the automatic learning was biased and so the AI was.
Very well made video, amazing job putting this together. Though, I don't agree with what was being said about consciousnesses being an illusion created by the brain - that seems to come from the flawed materialistic worldview that is being increasingly seen as untenable.
Yes