Hey Stevie, another great video! I should get my C-10 (with sliding bench) soon .You made my day by highly recommending it!! I did a lot of research, your videos were spot on and a HUGE help! Thanks for all of your work, you’re a real brother!!
I've tried to buy ForceUSA like 3 different times, ready to pull trigger each time. BUTTTT... there's ALWAYS something out of stock, so I hold back. I've never been able to create a cart with the AIO, bench, or weights, or other option, or there's no sale, but something is always missing. Even right now, C10 out of stock, sliding bench out of stock, weight plates out of stock, c'mon. Gave up after 3rd try, bought another gym. Wish they'd get their stuff together. I mean, whos gonna buy a car with wheels out of stock? Or a fridge with the freezer part out of stock, or a microwave with the keypad out of stock, or a TV with the remote out of stock? SMH. I'd hate to break something and have a warranty issue, THINK ABOUT IT, you wont get stock for weeks or months.
Enjoyed your videos on the C10...I ordered one fully loaded yesterday (with sliding bench) based on your many videos on the product....I look forward to getting it!
Thanks for watching and congrats on the C10. Did you happen to use my link? You can save on the order. Just let customer support know before it’s processed.
@@StevieRichardsFitness I had to order it thru customer service due to the fact that the bench is back ordered. They expect it back in by the 15th or so this month. I will give them a call back and see if they will apply your “discount”. Appreciate you mentioning it! Be well..
It is a tough choice where the company almost created the paradox of choice lol. The G20 Pro is something that can efficiently accommodate multiple users at the same time. If you do decide to purchase the G20 or anything else, please use my link to save some money: www.forceusa.com/stevie
@@StevieRichardsFitness for sure! The G20 with the lat attachement is a masterpiece, but that comes with a price. The G12 is the real deal, and the C10 is a good commitment due to the versatility. Hard choice!! And I bet the G6 V2 will be released next year, another great machine. Will it be possible the next time you go to Force USA headquarters do a short video showing the G12 cable length? There is literally no video in which this is clearly seen, and as it is one of the most asked questions by those interested in the G12, it would be interesting to see!
I’m not sure. I had limited time with the C10 and didn’t test that out. I’d email or call support. They actually get even get on a video call and show you live.
I asked this in one of their videos and they replied back "Hey @mikepal830! We don't recommend swapping out parts with non-Force USA items since they haven't been safety tested. But stay tuned -a little birdy told me there might be some exciting pulley upgrade kits coming soon!" So maybe they may implement it soon?
C10 with sliding bench is the way to go for me. You can do everything you can do with the g20 on the c10 (lat pull downs, low rows with 1:1 ratio) but you cant do the exercises using the sliding bench of the c10 on the g20. Also the price difference is too much, almost 2k. I have a g15 and id be happy to swap it for a c10 with sliding bench.
@ Hi Stevie I’ve watched all your videos regarding the g15 that’s why I bought it. I’m from the Philippines btw. I love the g15 especially the 4:1 ratio cable feature. I do a lot of cable isolation exercises such as single lat raises, single arm tricep pulldowns, single rear delt flys etc. and I find the 4:1 ratio works best for those exercises. No other Force USA machine has this feature. Smith machine is ok as well but I’m used to a non counterbalanced so it’s fairly new to me but I like it also. The only thing I have an issue with the g15 is that doing lat pull down on a bench is not optimal because ROM is limited. Doing it on the floor fixes this but it’s hard to use the knee stopper while sitting on the floor since it’s made to be used with a bench. I wished they increase the height of the functional trainer to be able to do lat pull downs with full Rom. Besides that everything’s great. I take back saying i’d swap it with a c10 since c10 doesn’t have 4:1 although the sliding bench exercises you can do an a c10 looks phenomenal.
Btw Stevie, I bought the g15 which included the upgrade kit but my supplier here in Manila did not include jammer arms and the metal d handles. I told them it’s impossible for the upgrade kit to be lacking jammer arms and metal handles since Force USA sells it as a set right? I haven’t seen an upgrade kit option without those two. I am currently talking with them on how to fix the issue. Hopefully they can provide me with those jammer arms and metal handles. Any thoughts on this?
@ @ Hi Stevie I’ve watched all your videos regarding the g15 that’s why I bought it. I’m from the Philippines btw. I love the g15 especially the 4:1 ratio cable feature. I do a lot of cable isolation exercises such as single lat raises, single arm tricep pulldowns, single rear delt flys etc. and I find the 4:1 ratio works best for those exercises. No other Force USA machine has this feature. Smith machine is ok as well but I’m used to a non counterbalanced so it’s fairly new to me but I like it also. The only thing I have an issue with the g15 is that doing lat pull down on a bench is not optimal because ROM is limited. Doing it on the floor fixes this but it’s hard to use the knee stopper while sitting on the floor since it’s made to be used with a bench. I wished they increase the height of the functional trainer to be able to do lat pull downs with full Rom. Besides that everything’s great. I take back saying i’d swap it with a c10 since c10 doesn’t have 4:1 although the sliding bench exercises you can do an a c10 looks phenomenal.
@ Btw Stevie, I bought the g15 which included the upgrade kit but my supplier here in Manila did not include jammer arms and the metal d handles. I told them it’s impossible for the upgrade kit to be lacking jammer arms and metal handles since Force USA sells it as a set right? I haven’t seen an upgrade kit option without those two. I am currently talking with them on how to fix the issue. Hopefully they can provide me with those jammer arms and metal handles. Any thoughts on this?
Congrats on the C10 purchase. Yes it sucks to have to wait for the bench. Did you happen to use my link? If not, you can always call their support and get that discount.
Hey Stevie, another great video! I should get my C-10 (with sliding bench) soon .You made my day by highly recommending it!! I did a lot of research, your videos were spot on and a HUGE help! Thanks for all of your work, you’re a real brother!!
Thanks so much for watching the videos and congrats on the C10. It’s definitely highly recommended. Keep me updated on how it’s working for you.
Hey Steve, just bought the c10 based on your recommendation. You were an awesome wrestler!
I sure will, my friend. Keep up the great job your doing, and stay healthy my friend!!@@StevieRichardsFitness
I've tried to buy ForceUSA like 3 different times, ready to pull trigger each time. BUTTTT... there's ALWAYS something out of stock, so I hold back. I've never been able to create a cart with the AIO, bench, or weights, or other option, or there's no sale, but something is always missing. Even right now, C10 out of stock, sliding bench out of stock, weight plates out of stock, c'mon. Gave up after 3rd try, bought another gym. Wish they'd get their stuff together. I mean, whos gonna buy a car with wheels out of stock? Or a fridge with the freezer part out of stock, or a microwave with the keypad out of stock, or a TV with the remote out of stock? SMH. I'd hate to break something and have a warranty issue, THINK ABOUT IT, you wont get stock for weeks or months.
Enjoyed your videos on the C10...I ordered one fully loaded yesterday (with sliding bench) based on your many videos on the product....I look forward to getting it!
Thanks for watching and congrats on the C10.
Did you happen to use my link? You can save on the order. Just let customer support know before it’s processed.
@@StevieRichardsFitness I had to order it thru customer service due to the fact that the bench is back ordered. They expect it back in by the 15th or so this month. I will give them a call back and see if they will apply your “discount”. Appreciate you mentioning it! Be well..
Saving money is saving money lol. Thank you.
Thanks for breaking this down, I was stuck between these two. Leaning toward the G20 Pro now after hearing about all the extra features.
It is a tough choice where the company almost created the paradox of choice lol.
The G20 Pro is something that can efficiently accommodate multiple users at the same time.
If you do decide to purchase the G20 or anything else, please use my link to save some money:
www.forceusa.com/stevie
That swing arm is pretty cool.
Nice video !!!! But still waiting for your impressions with the C10 on your hands. Great job!!!!!
G20 with the extension if you can afford it is the way to go. If not, the C10 is number 2, side by side with the G12.
The G12 is no slouch. Choice is great no matter what.
@@StevieRichardsFitness for sure! The G20 with the lat attachement is a masterpiece, but that comes with a price. The G12 is the real deal, and the C10 is a good commitment due to the versatility. Hard choice!!
And I bet the G6 V2 will be released next year, another great machine.
Will it be possible the next time you go to Force USA headquarters do a short video showing the G12 cable length? There is literally no video in which this is clearly seen, and as it is one of the most asked questions by those interested in the G12, it would be interesting to see!
stevie a question, is possibile to use the jammer arms with the old g3 v1 model?
No I don’t that’s compatible. You may be able to find a 3rd party brand of jammer arms according to the hole size.
@@StevieRichardsFitness thk stevie
Is possible incline 90 degrees sliding bench?(Press shoulders, press military....)
I’m not sure. I had limited time with the C10 and didn’t test that out.
I’d email or call support. They actually get even get on a video call and show you live.
Nice review. Why doesn’t Force USA use aluminum pulleys?
Thanks. I have already told them about the people who are clamoring for those. I hope they offer that as an option.
I asked this in one of their videos and they replied back
"Hey @mikepal830! We don't recommend swapping out parts with non-Force USA items since they haven't been safety tested. But stay tuned -a little birdy told me there might be some exciting pulley upgrade kits coming soon!"
So maybe they may implement it soon?
C10 with sliding bench is the way to go for me. You can do everything you can do with the g20 on the c10 (lat pull downs, low rows with 1:1 ratio) but you cant do the exercises using the sliding bench of the c10 on the g20. Also the price difference is too much, almost 2k. I have a g15 and id be happy to swap it for a c10 with sliding bench.
Thanks for the comment and solid reasoning behind picking the C10.
How’s the G15 working out for you?
@ Hi Stevie I’ve watched all your videos regarding the g15 that’s why I bought it. I’m from the Philippines btw. I love the g15 especially the 4:1 ratio cable feature. I do a lot of cable isolation exercises such as single lat raises, single arm tricep pulldowns, single rear delt flys etc. and I find the 4:1 ratio works best for those exercises. No other Force USA machine has this feature. Smith machine is ok as well but I’m used to a non counterbalanced so it’s fairly new to me but I like it also. The only thing I have an issue with the g15 is that doing lat pull down on a bench is not optimal because ROM is limited. Doing it on the floor fixes this but it’s hard to use the knee stopper while sitting on the floor since it’s made to be used with a bench. I wished they increase the height of the functional trainer to be able to do lat pull downs with full Rom. Besides that everything’s great. I take back saying i’d swap it with a c10 since c10 doesn’t have 4:1 although the sliding bench exercises you can do an a c10 looks phenomenal.
Btw Stevie, I bought the g15 which included the upgrade kit but my supplier here in Manila did not include jammer arms and the metal d handles. I told them it’s impossible for the upgrade kit to be lacking jammer arms and metal handles since Force USA sells it as a set right? I haven’t seen an upgrade kit option without those two. I am currently talking with them on how to fix the issue. Hopefully they can provide me with those jammer arms and metal handles. Any thoughts on this?
@ @ Hi Stevie I’ve watched all your videos regarding the g15 that’s why I bought it. I’m from the Philippines btw. I love the g15 especially the 4:1 ratio cable feature. I do a lot of cable isolation exercises such as single lat raises, single arm tricep pulldowns, single rear delt flys etc. and I find the 4:1 ratio works best for those exercises. No other Force USA machine has this feature. Smith machine is ok as well but I’m used to a non counterbalanced so it’s fairly new to me but I like it also. The only thing I have an issue with the g15 is that doing lat pull down on a bench is not optimal because ROM is limited. Doing it on the floor fixes this but it’s hard to use the knee stopper while sitting on the floor since it’s made to be used with a bench. I wished they increase the height of the functional trainer to be able to do lat pull downs with full Rom. Besides that everything’s great. I take back saying i’d swap it with a c10 since c10 doesn’t have 4:1 although the sliding bench exercises you can do an a c10 looks phenomenal.
@ Btw Stevie, I bought the g15 which included the upgrade kit but my supplier here in Manila did not include jammer arms and the metal d handles. I told them it’s impossible for the upgrade kit to be lacking jammer arms and metal handles since Force USA sells it as a set right? I haven’t seen an upgrade kit option without those two. I am currently talking with them on how to fix the issue. Hopefully they can provide me with those jammer arms and metal handles. Any thoughts on this?
I ordered the c10, but have to wait on the bench to come back in stock. Boooo!
Congrats on the C10 purchase. Yes it sucks to have to wait for the bench.
Did you happen to use my link? If not, you can always call their support and get that discount.
@@StevieRichardsFitness I will have to call tomorrow. I didn't use it.