Best Line Counter Reels for Kokanee [Walleye too!!!]

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  • @yakhusker5914
    @yakhusker5914 3 роки тому +11

    I currently run the Okuma Coldwater low profile on a Velocity Ninja rod for anything trout, kokanee (Roosevelt) and larger sockeye. I love it because it’s mostly balanced, handles the bigger fish too, but it’s 12oz. That’s why the Abu reel got my attention, and with another Velocity Ninja rod on its way, might have to try this one now! When my wife lets me have more $ it’s a done deal! Don’t laugh because most of you are nodding your heads as well!

    • @VitreusAdventures
      @VitreusAdventures 3 роки тому

      How do you think the velocity ninja rod will hold up trolling with planer boards for Walleye?

    • @yakhusker5914
      @yakhusker5914 3 роки тому

      I’ve only used them with a modified SideWinder planer and have had no issues with it. Used for kokes and walleyes with great results. Absolutely love how this rod feels with these fish on the line!

  • @simonblonda1449
    @simonblonda1449 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for this video! Best explanation of bait casting reels. I have wanted to switch from spinner to one of these for a while, but couldn't find anyone who could help me understand how they work, and how they will help me (and my kids) have more fun and success fishing for all fish, but especially trolling for kokanee. Thank you for your channel. Keep the videos coming!

  • @bryanpeck3679
    @bryanpeck3679 3 роки тому +4

    Love my Samira! Highly underrated. My Lexa LC is still my favorite right now too.

    • @mattcreasey628
      @mattcreasey628 3 роки тому +1

      Both of my Samiras LC reels have had drag issues and spool release issues. I am planning to switch to the Lexas.

  • @bykergus
    @bykergus 2 роки тому +1

    I love the Okuma Magda and the Low Profile Convector Line counter reels . . . and they actually stand by their warranties .. even after the reel is OUT of warranty !

  • @stevelawson104
    @stevelawson104 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the info, this affirmed the LEXA-LC 100HL was a great choice for me!

  • @kenamatice282
    @kenamatice282 2 роки тому +2

    Good info Tyler. I really like my Lexa 100 reels other than the clicker went out after only 3 days of fishing. Sent them back and got them fixed for free and no issues for about 3 years since. The only thing I use the clicker for is with downriggers. Turn the clicker on and hit free spool when sending down on the rigger and it seems like the perfect resistance to get to depth. This also keeps you from getting back lash is you get hit going down and the fish pops the clip. hands free deployment

  • @dlmsarge8329
    @dlmsarge8329 Рік тому +1

    I got the Abu Garcia in July and it boosted my walleye catches incredibly! It's so handy to use and I love that I can choose different line diameters. I also run a big Penn line counter on my leadcore set up. I've been considering going the downrigger route on my Hobie PA12 so appreciated your video on that as well.

  • @billfaubion6295
    @billfaubion6295 3 роки тому +2

    I use a pair of Abu Garcia 6500LC reels for both koks and trout trolling --- love the ergonomics of them. However water does eventually affect the line counter after a couple years (parts can easily be replaced). With my big hands I have no use for small reels. Keep up the great work Tyler & stay safe!

  • @timmoore9736
    @timmoore9736 11 місяців тому +1

    I have; an Okuma Cold Water on an Okuma rod and an Okuma Convector on an 8 foot Berkley Lightning ultralight. I also have my "coffee grinder" Bass Pro Depth Master with a glass Eagle Claw Featherlight Kokanee rod; if I had to do that over again I would get something smaller like the cold Water (which is more expensive - I was short on pocket change that day). Good detailing on the reels; that Cold Water stood like a champ when I came up with a 19.5" trout, 3lbs 1 oz. rainbow.

  • @Spoolmak
    @Spoolmak 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Tyler. I am a new kokanee fisherman and stumbled across your channel a few months ago. I think I have viewed almost all your videos so keep 'em coming. Pretty much all my kokanee questions have been answered and now I just have to work on my technique. I've had so much fun that I "needed" to upgrade my gear. I found a second hand but unused Abu Garcia Max DLC in perfect shape for a great price. It came without a manual and none could be found on their website. Your video told me everything I needed to know. Fishing is dead here at the moment (I'm a couple hundred klicks north of you) but can't wait to try it out. Thanks for all your advice and your enthusiasm.

  • @angelogalloway4693
    @angelogalloway4693 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you, thank you, I appreciate every video that you do and how you explain. I appreciate so much the info that you give.You by far stand out on the videos that l have watch, I am looking forward to trying some of these reels that you have suggested.Your one of the very few that have even talked about this. Thanks again for what you do. Keep up the good work.l am looking forward to your next video.

  • @lengray7804
    @lengray7804 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome recap. Just got two of the Abu's from a friend. So many useful features for the $.

  • @craigwood9707
    @craigwood9707 Рік тому +1

    Not sure if it works on the Lexa 100 but on my 300's, when letting out line, you can use your thumb to lift under the thumb bar to engage the reel at any time without turning the handle.. I don't know if it is recommended but it doesn't seem to have harmed the reels after many hours of use.

  • @MikeLasnier
    @MikeLasnier 3 роки тому +2

    I just grabbed the Abu Garcia through your link; you haven’t steered me wrong yet, and I have a reel that needs repair, so I need something to fish in the meantime.

  • @503SteelKill
    @503SteelKill 3 роки тому +2

    Hands down Diawa Lexa 100LC is my favorite for trout/kokanee. Small and compact as I don't like big round reels.

  • @macsmith2092
    @macsmith2092 4 місяці тому

    Do you use 10lb mono for bottom bouncing for walleye as well. I use braid on my reels for both kokanee and walleye because I like it for bottom bouncing, but I am very open to changing based on your opinion.

  • @joefish63
    @joefish63 Рік тому +1

    I use the older Ambassadeur Altum DLC 12. It is a fantastic reel for this type of work.

  • @robcarter279
    @robcarter279 5 місяців тому

    On the clicker for line counters I find it a necessity to have it on for dropping the downrigger. It just makes for a much smoother drop. Also I've had the max dlc for a couple years now and love it except the horrible switch for turning the clicker on & off, almost impossible when wearing gloves. Good video but maybe include a few others like the convector, magda and coldwater. Thanks as always Tyler.

  • @stingray4540
    @stingray4540 3 роки тому +2

    How can you possibly hate clickers? They are a Godsend when sending gear down with downriggers. I like that Tica, I’ll have to save it for the future. The Okuma cold waters are a little big for Kokanee.

  • @Tyler_B.
    @Tyler_B. 2 роки тому +1

    Those tica reels pair perfectly with the eagle claw Kokanee rods imo

  • @yakhusker5914
    @yakhusker5914 3 роки тому +3

    Any chance you can link a left hand model for the Abu Max DLC? When I buy it I’d like to make sure I’m supporting the one who introduced it to me.

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому +2

      Here you go! Thank you. amzn.to/3rT7Tsj

  • @ThaxorSmash
    @ThaxorSmash 3 роки тому +2

    Have you played around with calibrating them? I've been thinking about converting my abu 5500's to line counters but decided I'll probably just run some bobber stops at my usual distances 75, 100, 125.

  • @surgeche1664
    @surgeche1664 Рік тому

    Hi Tyler, can you say if Abu Garcia Reel still your favourite, how is it holding up. Thank you in advance.

  • @davidg2113
    @davidg2113 3 роки тому +1

    It sounds like you've had bad experiences with the Okuma Convector. Have you tried the newest generation yet? I heard they improved the guts and are now pretty much cold waters. I am very interested in their smallest low profile line counter which comes in at 8 ounces and has button to let out line. That seems very convenient to me when one hand is generally on the paddle. It's the CV-163D. I would be interested in your thoughts before I get two of them for the spring.

  • @alexzander1756
    @alexzander1756 Рік тому

    Hello, you made a very interesting video. I have a question about your Abu Dlc please.
    How do you remove the coil?
    Best regards, Alex

  • @verdeanpetersen8350
    @verdeanpetersen8350 Рік тому +1

    I just bought the convector. I'm trying to decide what line choice. It's mostly for long lining for kokanees. Got a suggestion for it.?

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  Рік тому +1

      I just use 10 lb Maxima ultragreen

  • @lukegalloway5895
    @lukegalloway5895 2 роки тому +1

    Great review! Well done!

  • @rx7viper755
    @rx7viper755 Місяць тому

    Does the abu garcia have plastic mounting plates?

  • @jeffthompson5543
    @jeffthompson5543 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the videos. Do you know if the Abu Garcia digital line counter actually counts the line going off the spool or the revolutions of the spool? I've looked for info online but can't get an answer. I've noticed my line counter reels are not accurate. I've spent a lot of time calibrating 4 of them so they are accurate to 100 feet. As the spool gets smaller the revolutions are faster and when I'm out to 200 feet I'm probably more like 160. I fish leadcore for kokanee so in the summer I'm trying to get out to 40 feet deep or more which means lots of feet out and lots of guesswork. I may need to upgrade. Thanks

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  2 роки тому +1

      It uses revolutions of the spool to count

  • @pdxfisher1
    @pdxfisher1 3 роки тому

    I have couple of Daiwa ICV15's that I have had for about 5 years or so. I really love the digital linecounter and that you can calibrate for different line sizes. Back when I bought the ICV's they were by far the lightest reels linecounter reels I could find. The battery replacement is a pain but otherwise they are pretty great. That ABU looks really nice plus it has a clicker, is less expensive than the ICV and it looks like battery replacement is easy (painful on the ICV). If I were buying today those would probably be my top choice. Thanks for the review.

  • @adam-oz1jo
    @adam-oz1jo 2 місяці тому

    is there a difference between the normal dlc and the toro version other then line capacity?

  • @thomassteele8150
    @thomassteele8150 3 роки тому +1

    Great video Tyler! Do you have a favorite Walleye trolling rod?

  • @clemp3010
    @clemp3010 3 роки тому +1

    Question from a noob. Are these reels considered baitcasters or only trolling? I dont know anything outside of fly fishing, but am trying to learn. Thanks

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому

      Only for trolling

    • @clemp3010
      @clemp3010 3 роки тому

      @@spiltmilt Thanks for the reply! I appreciate all the work you do making these videos.

  • @colbysteffenhagen1703
    @colbysteffenhagen1703 Рік тому

    Thanks for the great video! How has the Abu Garcia been performing now you’ve had it for while? Still recommend? Thanks!

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  Рік тому

      Solid. Love it for Kokanee and especially Walleye.

  • @TGLRD
    @TGLRD 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Tyler. I just liked, subbed, AND bought over $100 worth of stuff through your link (I’ll soon be getting the Columbia catch bag through ur link as well). To be brief - your content quality is unmatched. Quick question please…. I’ll be kayak fishing for Kokanee on Arrowrock reservoir soon (not far from Anderson in Idaho). It’ll be 95 degrees out so I’ll be dropping line pretty deep (no rigger). I’m guessing 3-4 oz weights on sliders. Why/when would I want to mess with snap weights as I’ve seen you do at times? Also, how much line should I let out if I want to be around 40’ deep while trolling 3-4 oz weight?

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  2 роки тому

      3 oz at 100' or 4 oz at 80' should get you in the ball park

    • @TGLRD
      @TGLRD 2 роки тому

      @@spiltmilt Yes. Thank you. Another user mentioned googling “trolling depth charts” which I found to be exactly what I needed and indeed corroborate your numbers.

    • @TGLRD
      @TGLRD 2 роки тому

      @@spiltmilt I feel I should say…. though I’m new to Kokanee fishing I’m definitely not new to highly specialized UA-cam channels and you are unbelievably adept at teaching and demonstrating the subject matter - the important points are extremely consistent across your many various videos - and your diligence in responding to comments is, so far as I can tell, unheard of for a UA-camr with this amount of subs. Thanks again Tyler.

  • @tbcooperstube
    @tbcooperstube 2 роки тому

    The issue i have with the Shakespeare ats 15 is the line gets caught in the side of the reel, way down the spool. Super irritating, I don’t know if it was spooled wrong or what. Have you ever run into this?

  • @Shinnen09
    @Shinnen09 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the review! I am in need of another reel and been considering the new Abu. Will be interesting to see about long term reliability of the DLC. Daiwa has seemed to do well with theirs so there hope. I’m curious about the new low profile okuma convector in 100-size. It’s under 8 oz and msrp of 105 which means street should be 80 or less. Plus it’s got a similar flipping switch as the abu.

  • @traildadd
    @traildadd 11 місяців тому

    Do you still love the digital line counter? I’d really like a quality reel with a bullet proof line counter. So, has it stood the test of time?

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  11 місяців тому

      Still going strong. I use it primarily for Walleye now but once my Lexa's give out I am going to get another one.

    • @traildadd
      @traildadd 10 місяців тому

      Well I got two Max DLC reels in both a left and right hand model, one for each side of the kayak. Interestingly even though the line counter is very accurate, when I spooled them up I couldn’t get the specified amount of line on the reel. The specs say it should hold 135 yds of 10lb mono. Both of them were overfilled and wouldn’t turn at about 330 feet. I backed them down to 100 yds to make them work. I don’t know if the counter is wrong or the spec is wrong or the line is thicker than normal. I’m using P-Line CXX-Xtra Strong 10-pound test. Maybe I should do a measuring test like you did to be sure. I fished with one yesterday and it worked good.
      I looked it up and it’s thicker. I guess I better reset the reel to 12lb test.

  • @G_marvelous85
    @G_marvelous85 2 роки тому

    Have you used the convector 163dlx?
    I just picked up the new lamiglas redline kokanee rod and I put a convector 163dlx on them. Gonna try them out this weekend see how they feel!

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  2 роки тому

      I find them to be oversized for Kokanee

  • @jessetharp6319
    @jessetharp6319 3 роки тому +1

    I’m curious as to what your thoughts are if the Okuma Magda reels? Several articles I read listed them at the top of the list as far as budget reels go.

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому +2

      They are decent but Okumas line counters tend to fail

    • @jessetharp6319
      @jessetharp6319 3 роки тому

      @@spiltmilt Thanks!

  • @6string556
    @6string556 3 роки тому +2

    Any possibility of going over rods to pair with these reels? Trying to find a good overall walleye/Koke setup

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому +3

      Yes video coming soon

    • @6string556
      @6string556 3 роки тому

      @@spiltmilt awesome! I was going to pick up a pair for trolling out of my kayak but I’ll wait to see what your recommendations are. Thanks for putting out such great informative content!

  • @michaelr4401
    @michaelr4401 3 роки тому +1

    Have u checked to see if the counter is accurate for the max DLC? I believe you use 10lb maxima?

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому

      I checked to 50' it was off by 2'. Not bad.

  • @jeffreylitishin9035
    @jeffreylitishin9035 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Tyler for another helpful video. I was looking at the abu garcia for my second rod. I think I am going to give it a try. How do you set up your drag on these reels? I am new to trolling. Also, you should mention your Patreon account on these videos.

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому +1

      I adjust the drag based on feel using the star wheel on the right side. For Kokanee I use a fairly light drag where I can easily pull line off the reel. This is true even for the bigger Kokanee but as the fight progresses I may tighten the drag a little bit.

    • @jeffreylitishin9035
      @jeffreylitishin9035 3 роки тому

      @@spiltmilt Thanks Tyler.

  • @chrisvanzandt5400
    @chrisvanzandt5400 Рік тому

    you gotta swap out to the lexa 300LC its nearly the same size as the 100 but better line cap better drag beefier stronger build and more options for gearing with the PWR model. also i think its the most expensive reel at about $230 each

  • @joeyd9792
    @joeyd9792 3 роки тому

    What line counter reels do use for King salmon? What size Leo flashers do you use for Kings and Sockeye? Great videos!

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому +1

      I use Tekota 300 LC and Okuma Coldwater LoPro LC for Kings. I use the large size LEO flashers.

  • @jasonoshea9523
    @jasonoshea9523 Рік тому

    Can you disable the distance to tip alarm on the Abu?

  • @joshm8395
    @joshm8395 3 роки тому

    I actually had a not-so good experience with the Abu Garcia. I recently purchased it and really wanted to like it, but I found that the battery cap was a huge pain to take off. It took a good deal of force to twist the thing counter clockwise with a butter knife. I was surprised to find that it actually came with a battery, as the reel wasn't turning on out of the box. After re-securing it, the battery turned the reel on, but only for a split second, it seemed to have trouble making contact with the terminal.

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому

      Strange. Did you contact Abu?

    • @joshm8395
      @joshm8395 3 роки тому

      @@spiltmilt I ended up returning the Abu to Amazon and got the Samira instead. Am happy with it so far.

    • @joshm8395
      @joshm8395 3 роки тому

      So, I must be super unlucky (or possibly super dumb and not setting these things up right) because the Samira isn't really working for me either. I spooled it with some line. Then when I was done I added the poulsen setup that you recommended: the plastic stopper/snubber thing that holds a weight, and the tech-ni-line, and the dodger, plus micro spinner. When I attached the weight to it, I find that it doesn't reel at all. I tried playing with the drag a little bit, and if I turn it clockwise I can get it to reel, but then it wont release any line when I pull on it. Not sure if it's another faulty reel, or if I'm just doing something wrong =(

  • @trentpeters1255
    @trentpeters1255 3 роки тому +1

    How did it hold up are you going to do a review?

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому

      Been using it for the better part of a year now and still works great. Haven't had to change batteries and no corrosion issues

  • @rayj1131
    @rayj1131 2 місяці тому

    Can you see the counter with polarized sun glasses?

  • @SalmonKing52
    @SalmonKing52 2 роки тому

    Yet Another Great video!
    As a Kokanee newbie I’m currently looking for reels to buy the will match up nicely with my Eagle Claw Kokanee rods.
    I may have missed it in the video so 8m gonna ask you…
    Have you had any issue with water intrusion to the line counter? I know it’s digital but that circuit board will corrode with water in there.
    If I had to pick from those 4 in the video I’m sold on the Tica in spite of its weight but I’d rather go lighter.

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  2 роки тому

      Never had any water intrusion issues

  • @daviddorman4625
    @daviddorman4625 2 роки тому

    I have 2 love them thinking about getting 2 more have you had any problems abu garcia dlc

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  2 роки тому +1

      No problems thus far. Great reels.

  • @rickw9169
    @rickw9169 2 роки тому +1

    Okuma Coldwater. Best I ever owned.

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  2 роки тому

      I find them to be a bit over-sized for Kokanee rods but love them for my bigger salmon rods

    • @rickw9169
      @rickw9169 2 роки тому +2

      @@spiltmilt This might sound funny but I have a 153d on each of my Eagle Claw Kokanee rods. It's a super comfortable reel and does not feel too big on the rod. I need the heavier reels for Shasta Kings and trout and didn't really want to spend a ton on a full Kokanee setup. Its somewhat of a compromise but I seriously see no need for other reels. I fished the new rods on Whiskeytown today and had a blast. I think I read on a prior post that you intend on fishing Whiskeytown later this Spring or early Summer. Feel free to contact me if you feel like getting out of the kayak while you're down. I have a small (16 ft) Smokercraft that comfortably fishes 2 and I always enjoy learning new tricks and skills.

  • @DukeTrout
    @DukeTrout 3 роки тому

    No love for the Daiwa AccuDepth 15ICV?

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому +1

      Had two...both croaked on me within 3 years.

  • @lukechase247
    @lukechase247 3 роки тому

    Love the channel. Was fishing for Kokanee this past weekend and could not mark anything on the sonar but caught 4 on the top. I know the cone is real small on top. How do I find more fish? Is there a video on Sonar settings for trolling spring summer and fall Kokanee.

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому

      When they are on top they can difficult to locate using electronics. Make sure to double back on the areas you do get bit. The old adage never leave fish to find fish applied especially in the spring

  • @tomg8673
    @tomg8673 3 роки тому +1

    Another Great Video
    Thanks very much!

  • @josephbass3606
    @josephbass3606 3 роки тому

    What type of reels are these called and why aren't spinning reels used for this?

    • @spiltmilt
      @spiltmilt  3 роки тому +1

      Level wind reels. I mostly prefer these because its easier to deploy your line in a controlled manner and they have line counters.

    • @josephbass3606
      @josephbass3606 3 роки тому

      @@spiltmilt thank you! I was always confused seeing other people set ups like that.

    • @stevedyer5902
      @stevedyer5902 Місяць тому

      We troll for rainbow trout , but also have small striped bass in same lake. I have been using 15 lb braid with floro top shot.
      Why do most anglers still prefer mono for these small trolling line counter reels. Will they work using braid?

  • @fillajohnoutdoors5532
    @fillajohnoutdoors5532 3 роки тому +1

    Okuma cold water low pro!

  • @ronkeffer
    @ronkeffer 3 роки тому

    Bought the abu Garcia max dlc

  • @ChaldeanMoney
    @ChaldeanMoney 3 роки тому +1

    i use the abu 6500 c3 never failed me

  • @elknrut
    @elknrut 3 роки тому +1

    Gotta have click drag