I knew I chose the right channel to subscribe to. You are the only channel who actually shows the differences in action dodgers create. Thank you! I'm wondering if there is any difference in the dodgers action when using down riggers?
Great video. Never could figure out why I never got hit on a skateboard style dodger and I’m sure it’s because it was below the fish, I just assumed it’s behind the down rigger ball.
1.3 - 1.5! Maybe I am trolling too slow... I normally pedal around 1 mph; guess I'll have to speed up and give that a try. Super cool video! Thanks for sharing! Going to have to pick up a few of those Peak Performance Lite dodgers before they sell out!
Wow, that was really interesting seeing the different angles of the action they provide. I like how you can definitely tell the difference between erratic and pulsing action. Thanx for doing this, very informative. I'll keep this in mind next time on the water hunting kokes!
Good information as always, I use the Brad’s Extreme and Poulsen Cascade Arrow Flash. I never thought there was much difference in dodgers but as you pointed out the action varies quite a bit. Might have to go snag a couple different styles 💸💸💸.
Are there any times where you use you sling blades flat without any bend? I generally don’t bend mine but that’s because I don’t have a trolling motor and an usually going 1.5 to 2MPH, but I still get great action. More of a whip than a start stop. Probably too fast for Kokanee but I still catch some and a decent amount of trout too.
I appreciate this video. How much space behind your dropper weight do you need to have to ensure you're not negatively impacting the dodger action? From the video, I'm guessing you're running about 2 feet?
Centimudi on Shasta Lake and you were in the perfect place! We were killing it the last few weeks but the bite slowed down this weekend due to the heat. There is an inlet northwest of your location and it’s also a great spot for Kokanee. Have you tried Whiskeytown? The water is colder and we seem to do really good but the fish seem to be a bit smaller in general.
@@terryhopper1147 Yes. From kayaks. From the Dam near the Centimudi side all the way north up to where Dry Creek starts and all the way up that inlet. The bite stopped this weekend because of the heat. Early mornings and evenings right before sunset things turn up a bit. I’m thinking about trying the McCloud arm near Hirz Bay.
Bumper Length and Dodger Action Question: "It appears" ~ minute 1, that just as the hoochie is affected by the distance to the dodger, perhaps the dodger itself is affected by the length of the bumper/leader length between it and the essentially unmoving lead/anchor. If you were to lengthen that "bumper" length, would it essentially give less of a solid contact for the dodger to work off of? Conversely, if you moved that lead right up to the dodger, would the dodger and therefore, the hoochie, wiggle more?
My go-to starter will always be the Shasta/Paulina dodger, but if the fish are being aggressive, I'll go to the "skateboard" as it tends to put out a lot of "thump", Arrowflash or similar as well. If they are being picky and hitting short, either a smaller Shasta/Paulina or a Brad's have often worked. But yeah, I have a pile of dodgers. If the fish are hitting, I won't usually screw around with it much, but if they are few an far between? Will start throwing out colors/styles and see what gets hit. While I do vary troll speeds, it's interesting you troll a bit faster than I do. I shoot for 1.2....and you are going 1.4-1.5? I suppose I should see what action I'm getting on the dodgers as well as hoochie/fly at different speeds. Maybe I'll go a bit faster in the future! LOL
Is the Peak Performance Original the heavy one? Do you use the PP Lite ones for flatlining & shallow kokanees and the original heavy ones for deep water?
I noticed that the sticker on the skateboard dodger was on top while the others were on the bottom (when in the water). I'd think you'd want the sticker to be on the bottom. why would it be on top with the skateboard dodgers?
I think in the spring I'm run near the surface and a little less aggressive. Then summer and fall I'm going faster and using a larger dodger, and running deeper. Do you do this?
Great content. I learn so much from your videos. Question- in renting boats or pontoon boats we can not get down to the slow speeds that you do. Our speed ranges from 2.3-3 mph. What action do the dodgers give off at those speeds? Do they make a full circle?
You can bump the boat in an out of neutral or use a bucket to slow things down. Try using your dodgers flat without any bend. You might still be going to fast but at least they won’t roll
Great video! So far your the only channel that demonstrated the actual action of each dodger/flasher under water.
Excellent content! Very concise, extremely informative, and well recorded.
I knew I chose the right channel to subscribe to. You are the only channel who actually shows the differences in action dodgers create. Thank you! I'm wondering if there is any difference in the dodgers action when using down riggers?
No downriggers will not impact the action of the dodger
Thanks for the underwater footage! It’s so helpful to see how things actually look in the water
Great video! Nice to see exactly how the dodgers work.
Great video. Never could figure out why I never got hit on a skateboard style dodger and I’m sure it’s because it was below the fish, I just assumed it’s behind the down rigger ball.
1.3 - 1.5! Maybe I am trolling too slow... I normally pedal around 1 mph; guess I'll have to speed up and give that a try.
Super cool video! Thanks for sharing! Going to have to pick up a few of those Peak Performance Lite dodgers before they sell out!
Just started watching your content and its been great for me, a beginner to kokanee and its been great. Thanks again! +1 subscriber!
Wow, that was really interesting seeing the different angles of the action they provide. I like how you can definitely tell the difference between erratic and pulsing action. Thanx for doing this, very informative. I'll keep this in mind next time on the water hunting kokes!
This is a amazing video!!! Thank you for putting this out!!!
Dang this was good!
Well organized and great views of the action in the water. Thx!
Good information as always, I use the Brad’s Extreme and Poulsen Cascade Arrow Flash. I never thought there was much difference in dodgers but as you pointed out the action varies quite a bit. Might have to go snag a couple different styles 💸💸💸.
Fantastic comparison. Thank you
Great video, love the comparisons and underwater footage. Off topic, could you do a UA-cam short on how you put the Berkeley maggots on your hooks?
Love your comparisons, Thanks!
Excellent demo again.
Those last 2 dodgers really kick 😮
Thanks, priceless information
Great info as always. Thanks 👍
Love the underwater footage. I would suggest you also try the Kokabow dodgers for another unique action
Are there any times where you use you sling blades flat without any bend? I generally don’t bend mine but that’s because I don’t have a trolling motor and an usually going 1.5 to 2MPH, but I still get great action. More of a whip than a start stop. Probably too fast for Kokanee but I still catch some and a decent amount of trout too.
No I always run my teardrops bent
Thanks!
Excellent video Matt! The underwater footage made is easy to see what to use and when.
John McHatton
Glad it helped. My name is Tyler though.
Sorry Tyler!
I ordered a couple of Montana Tackle Co 4.5-inch Ultralight Kokanee Dodger and they come flat...what is the best way to 'bend' them?
Make sure the blanks are bendable blanks. Brass blanks will snap in half. Otherwise it's just experimentation.
I appreciate this video. How much space behind your dropper weight do you need to have to ensure you're not negatively impacting the dodger action? From the video, I'm guessing you're running about 2 feet?
Thanks for the vids. How fast can you troll with the Paulina peak performer lite dodgers?
Great info!
Thinking about buying an old town kayak can you get a pedal drive and a electric motor in the same kayak thanks
Centimudi on Shasta Lake and you were in the perfect place! We were killing it the last few weeks but the bite slowed down this weekend due to the heat. There is an inlet northwest of your location and it’s also a great spot for Kokanee. Have you tried Whiskeytown? The water is colder and we seem to do really good but the fish seem to be a bit smaller in general.
I tried for Kokanee all day. No luck but did have excellent luck at nearby Whiskeytown.
Eric have you caught any kokanee on Shasta this year,
@@terryhopper1147 Yes. From kayaks. From the Dam near the Centimudi side all the way north up to where Dry Creek starts and all the way up that inlet. The bite stopped this weekend because of the heat. Early mornings and evenings right before sunset things turn up a bit. I’m thinking about trying the McCloud arm near Hirz Bay.
Could you do a comparison between different 360 flashers such as protroll, leo's, and other types?
Kinda off topic but what are you using to attach knife to Old Town PFD?
It’s has a clip on the sheath
Bumper Length and Dodger Action Question: "It appears" ~ minute 1, that just as the hoochie is affected by the distance to the dodger, perhaps the dodger itself is affected by the length of the bumper/leader length between it and the essentially unmoving lead/anchor.
If you were to lengthen that "bumper" length, would it essentially give less of a solid contact for the dodger to work off of?
Conversely, if you moved that lead right up to the dodger, would the dodger and therefore, the hoochie, wiggle more?
Cool stuff! 😀
My go-to starter will always be the Shasta/Paulina dodger, but if the fish are being aggressive, I'll go to the "skateboard" as it tends to put out a lot of "thump", Arrowflash or similar as well. If they are being picky and hitting short, either a smaller Shasta/Paulina or a Brad's have often worked. But yeah, I have a pile of dodgers. If the fish are hitting, I won't usually screw around with it much, but if they are few an far between? Will start throwing out colors/styles and see what gets hit.
While I do vary troll speeds, it's interesting you troll a bit faster than I do. I shoot for 1.2....and you are going 1.4-1.5? I suppose I should see what action I'm getting on the dodgers as well as hoochie/fly at different speeds. Maybe I'll go a bit faster in the future! LOL
Is the Peak Performance Original the heavy one? Do you use the PP Lite ones for flatlining & shallow kokanees and the original heavy ones for deep water?
If you watch the video I compare both.
@@spiltmilt Thanks. I will buy both with more Lite ones. Hey btw, your link for the heavy Peak Performance dodger (copper/orange crush) doesn't work.
I noticed that the sticker on the skateboard dodger was on top while the others were on the bottom (when in the water). I'd think you'd want the sticker to be on the bottom. why would it be on top with the skateboard dodgers?
I think it works either way and makes no difference with as much as they flip side to side
@@spiltmilt ah cool. thanks for clearing that up.
I think in the spring I'm run near the surface and a little less aggressive. Then summer and fall I'm going faster and using a larger dodger, and running deeper. Do you do this?
Similar on speed. Dodger size varies based on fish size and weather conditions
I curious how do brad's dodgers compare to any of the dodgers you using in your video?
Nice
Great content. I learn so much from your videos. Question- in renting boats or pontoon boats we can not get down to the slow speeds that you do. Our speed ranges from 2.3-3 mph. What action do the dodgers give off at those speeds? Do they make a full circle?
Yes they just spin at those speeds
You can bump the boat in an out of neutral or use a bucket to slow things down. Try using your dodgers flat without any bend. You might still be going to fast but at least they won’t roll
@@tbcooperstube thanks. I’ll try that
How do aeroflash style dodgers compare to the peak performance dodgers?
Similar but a smaller overall blade so a little faster thump but not quote as strong on the flip if that makes.