The British Transit Hub We All Wanted in Cities Skylines!
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33:30 since the residential road is already above the highway you could just have it connect directly to the bridge segment without making them have to walk down and have to walk back up to cross the highway
Yep, same thought!
Hahahhaha had the exact thought
Too true, Also the ramp going up to the residential street has an entrance to the void anyways lol.
Couldn't believe Biffa making them ppl walk down then up again
Saw the comment so didn't put it in too :)
A small idea maybe is too add some service stations around the ring road to allow people who may have long journeys to stop off at some points outside the city
good idea so more people will use the ring road and can the motorway that is goin through the city stay ass it is
Perhaps a couple of food vans at random lay-bys, you see that a lot in the UK, especially on A roads.
Agreed also in Ovington can you replace the one way roads since when the dive on it the can't go anywhere.
32:59 why not directly to the high up road? At the moment, people are getting down and up for no reason....
Thanks for the video, Biffa. Always a relaxing time.
Biffa did it exactly like the gov would do it, that was for realism :D
This moment ruined my relaxation.
i was htinking this aswell when i saw it,
@@Salmoddi same 🤣
32:45 For the overpass I would suggest to use bridge all the way to the houses. As of right now you need to go down from the bridge and then up again. Making it straight would be more realistic IMO, but also that would mean loosing the curve, which you were so happy about
Biffa cars can go out of the hub, but can't go inside, because of the arrows on the road that you haven't changed. Love your videos
If I'm not mistaken there's also a metro (blue line) that ends at the business park. It would seem that that would be perfect to connect into the other side of the terminal station.
Also I'd connect that walking path straight to the top of the road. Seems to both be a smaller span than the current ramp, thus cheaper and also friendlier for the user (not having to go down and up again).
Another excellent addition to a beautiful city!
18:53 Don't forget to allow cars to join onto the new service road from the junctions on the ring road... currently, they can only turn left/right onto the ring road and not straight over... same for the ring road itself, as cars can only go straight or turn left away from the service road.
Loving all your videos and I really look forward to each new ep! 💚
At 14:50 instead of going for that crazy rollercoaster track that drops and comes back up again on the far side of the intercity rail line, why not just continue the rail straight and connect it directly to the second line at the same elevated level. With Anarchy you can just pass the line through the inner city line without connecting it to that track.
That's what i thought too 😅
the motorway on the city must stay
no biffa, the one way road around the thing from japan where you put the petrol station is going the wrong way for left hand traffic.
if you turn that around, then there will be no crossing over each other from the vehicles. they come in, take a left turn immediately, go behind the big thing
then get into the petrol station and get out at the other end and can come out again without once changing lanes or crossing over.
21:40 I expected a control click to give vehicles access to your new transport hub. As it is they can't turn onto the access road. (unless you fixed it later, of course. 🙂)
And
33:00 delete the two ramps and continue the bridge to join Ransden Street instead of making your pedestrians walk down then up to use the bridge.
33:00 Or, you could continue the pedestrian bridge onto the road, so people don't have to defend all the way and ascend again :)
This feels like one of them things that specifically happens when you’re filming and playing
21:41. There is currently no way for vehicles to turn on to the new development, as all the other roads have already been preset to send the traffic in different directions
Hi Biffa! I'm loving the new transport hub, but it got me thinking. A lot of the rail infrastructure in Blightea-on-the-Wold is very modern looking. Whilst I'm sure we'd all love that to be the case in real life, much of the UK's rail infrastructure was built in the Victorian era. I think it would be very cool if some detailing was added to parts of the network that make it look as if it's been in use for 150 years or so! Always love the content, can't wait to see how the city develops.
I think adding a metro station inside the old city is a great idea, you can consider it!
Just to make more sense to the metro line that is identical to the train line
Can you connect the town inside the walls to the new area? Seems a bit silly to have them completely separated like that, I'm sure people would appreciate more direct access.
16:00 if the outside line drops to ground level early, then the cargo line can connect to it without all the ups and downs.
I don’t think that if you change the inner highway to a collector road, it will be helpful for the city. Is better to connect the new hub road to the bridge. Also I think in a so crowded area with hub and park, needs a small police station.
it is possible to expand the historical center of the city and make a smooth transition between the historical buildings and the buildings of other neighboring areas. Now the center looks lonely and is strongly separated from the rest of the city. love your videos!
Please keep the motorways through the city.
Also, check out your lane arrows on the exit from the motorway to the service area and from the ring road towards it. No one can get in, there are no straight across arrows or left or right turn lanes. You only fixed the lane arrow coming out of the service area.
21:40 Looks like that intersection needs its lanes corrected from the other directions too - people can't get to the new area at the moment.
Watching Biffa build a transport hub, whilst also building a transport hub in my own city is great for inspiration. Thanks Biffa
My pleasure!
4:16 don't forget to allow people to cross over the junction if they coming from the highway into that area
Downgrading the current motorway to a collector makes a lot of sense. And maybe upgrading the ring road speed limit to a higher one will help out as well I think.
let the motorway stay
Show more of you detailing & decorating stuff Biffa, because that is my favorite part of your build
I don’t think if you change the motorway to a collector will work. I reckon the game’s mechanic will still make people decide for the shortest route instead of the quickest one and you may end up with a non-used ring road and a clogged collector in the middle of the city
I love the idea of the park near the transport hub :)
I've just binged the Blightea on the Wold playlist, its great!
I think there would definitely be some big office buildings by the river near the train station - there is always a big pwc or deloitte in those areas.
Also I'd love to see some big fancy houses, a proper posh neighbourhood.
Then also I know the game only counts university numbers based on dorms, but in any british uni there would also be a medium sized cheap student housing area with dodgy landlords and plenty of pubs and kebab places.
Don't know if it was mentioned. But at 11:05 the rail tracks go right through the bridge support
0:50 I must have missed a previous episode but it looks like you built some helpful metro line extensions! 🙂
27:10 to 28:15 😨 Heyyy! You got rid of the East Kettling - Felton tunnel! Put it back! 😠 Then you can extend the line from The Wave/Saint Giles East. 😉
I'm beginning to think that Biffa is secretly planning my city's transportation routes because they make decisions like Biffa. I found it strange that Biffa would remove that part of the metro to replace it with new connections from East Kettling to the new transportation hub and, with a change of stations, from the new hub to Felton, especially when he just put in a train line to cover the first part half of that trip. So with the change to the metro system, service became duplicated with the train system and the existing service became much longer and inconvenient.
That's definitely how my city works. The implemented a light rail system that is slower than the bus system it replaced.
Came back to this series after awhile and I'm still loving it! The episode's been out for almost a month now and i don't know if anyone's said it before, but since I don't see the next episode yet, I thought I'd share my opinion. I think downgrading the motorway in the middle of the city makes a lot of sense. Usually the highway goes around the city, which you have done too (which is great btw! Amazing idea) and has several exits into the city. Anyway, the city looks amazing and can't wait for the next episode!
I think some hotels would go nicely around the edges of transit hubs.
For your solution about what to do with your motorway going through the city, have a look at the M602/M62/M60, you could remove the motorway but keep part of it as a cul-de-sac to provide high speed access to the centre of the city but encourage use of the ring road for access to other areas. Love the videos
Hi Biffa! There is actually a British Underground metro train, and it is the one called Underground Metro. It is similar to the ones found in London.
I love this transport hub, it's a great spot to put it and really love the addition of the park too! So sad you're not showing as much of the detailing though 😢
About the trains, I always think it's a great idea when you split the lines because trains get congested so easily. But maybe add a crossover so they do have the possibility if needed? Maybe it wouldn't make much of a difference in the game, but seen as this city is heavily realism themed, it would be more fitting as something might go wrong or they'd have to do work on the rail line and would still need to be able to get to the right place.
And I really love the whirly interchange and would be sad to see it and all the detailing go. However, a collector would be more logical, as sort of 'Roman Road' straight down the middle as you'd see in a lot of places.
you cannot imagine how much I appreciate the moment I see your new video in my suggestions.
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I love the transit hub you made, although I would prefer the glass box hub would fit better in the Hub. And for your metro network, there are more London Underground assets for your stations. There are also a few DLR Assets and London overground assets too. I would love you to also implement a tram network and a DLR. BtW it’s about the time for you to make an airport for Blightea On The Wold. Make Canary Wharf in your next episode plz. Keep up the amazing work on your next New Tealand build or Biffalo Countea build.
Great build biffa-aside from the pedestrian overpass comment that so many had, I think a metro stop in the medieval town would serve two purposes: 1) it would help differentiate the metro and train lines 2) it would bring more tourists to a major tourist attraction. Thanks as always for your great vids!
"Let it deal with itself." Interesting way to approaching those intersections, Biffa. 😆 By the way, the Real Gas mod could be used on that petrol ⛽️ station to make it look like cars indeed ARE using it (like toll booths). 😏 And I look forward to you using the upcoming Shopping Mall DLC to fill in some of those open areas...
Thanks for the info!
I think the two original crossed highways should remain highways, and that road ought to connect to the bridge road instead of going under or past it.
I'd hate for you to get rid of that huge roundabout type junction, since you put so much work into making it look as nice as it does.
Loved this build today, Biffa, look forwards to seeing you do more with bus lines that connect to this transfer point, to service the surrounding areas.
I think you should keep it as it is, Biffa, that whirlpool junction is a magnificent piece, you can always build a tunnel underneath and connect it to somewhere. Keep up the series, love your work mate!
Can see it at 39.36, the 4 lanes going past the transit hub only allow traffic to go straight on (3 lanes) or turn opposite the transit hub. The build is looking impressive and I agree, UK cities with a Ring Road don't often have Motorways going all the way through them.
let the motorway stay
Really great Idea for the ring road, so the center of the ring could have place to develop instead of big (sorry) boring roads ahah
Thanks again for this serie really interresting !
I absolutely agree
lets ceep the motorway thats in your city
I would leave the internal motorway roads as they are, it gives the city/town the feel of natural growth in a post 70 era
this is why i like notifications bc u can watch the videos the nanosecond theyre uploaded
Ok
I could be just repeating here! As there are so many comments. but your main access to the new Hub is limited as main road only has Straight Ahead Arrows so only the people coming into the hub come from across the junction. I never knew how addictive your videos could be they just help me relax on a regular basis. It's the old addage of just being able to watch good workers doinng their thing. Keep it going.
It's a pretty long walk for passengers connecting to/from a bus. I'd consider moving the bus station closer to the train stations.
10:53 you ran one of the railway tracks straight through the bridge support!
Also you have some very high rail gradients, UK rail rarely goes above 5% and is generally well below. And for the overpass, why not just take it straight from the street to the overpass instead of making the path go down and up again?
You should use "auto color redux" mod to colour and name your lines (bus, tram, metro, rail, monorail, anything and everything). It is very nice and convenient.
Downgrading to a collector seems very unlikely in "real life", but sounds like a great idea for Blighty-on-the-Wold; the residents should love it. Go for it!
Pedestrian connectivity to the new area is also not that great. For such a big transport hub I fully expect the citizens to force the gate (at least pedestrian) in the wall, so they don't need to go around the park so much
33:33 why not have the raised pathway just connect directly into the road above instead of going down and back up 😂
Hi biffa could you put a tank in the middle of a roundabout? Its a very British thing to do. I'm also surprised you've not used airports either
By "tank", do you mean the kind that's filled with water, or the kind that drives around battlefields? Both are plausible enough, since there's plenty of old WW1 and WW2 military gear used as monuments...
nice build! It's always amazing to me to see the cims lining up for transit, *while you're still building it :D
One comment - at about 33:45, where you were messing with the pedestrian overpass, why not just take advantage of the height and connect the crossing bridge directly into that neighborhood, instead of all that ramp stuff? Might have been easier, and might serve to function as an extension of the neighborhood (to the other one)
The big junction somehow started to became the center of your city. Perhaps, if you’re planing to remove it, change it to a giant circular park or high rises complex
2:41 - when you added the road, you didn't give the option to go straight through into the hub. :) Hello BTW, love your content. Started following at the first vid of New Tealand and you've been very inspiring since (I don't have the patience for ploppable residential etc. buildings though ;) )
That poor KFC needs some detailing! It’s just floating in a gravel pad, not really visually connected to the road or the shops around it…. Would be nice to add some concrete up front, maybe create a little out side seating area beside it.
I think the ringroad is too big to downgrade inner highways. You would have to make them like 20 m/h to make people go around. Though of course it might work, just a thing to consider when making the decision.
Please check the line management - no cars allowed to turn from the ring-road into the new area.
32:47 Biffa struggling to lower a pedestrian overpass to the level of the highway only to raise it back up again to connect to the sidewalk :)))
The connection of the cargo rail to to the previously created external railway is breaking my heart.
Take a look at 15:09 => The rail should go below the two existing elevated rails further along the left-hand side of the highway and connect to the outgoing rail outside of the city.
It would look much nicer that way that the spaghetti stuff we got here😅
I like the idea of getting rid of the highway through the city and replacing it with an arterial or a collector. A bit like City Planner Plays did in Verde Beach.
Another question: did you ever increase the speed limit on the ring road? Because not all of it is a highway road, there might be some slower speed limits.
Love it, classic Biffa! Builds from elevation to ground in order to go up to original elevation... Great Sunday evening entertainment, thanks Biffa!
Biffa has my vote for Minister for the Department of Transport. He could have knocked out Crossrail in a few minutes, and have HS2 completed before finishing a full cuppa
I agree with you, make the inner roads like dual carraigeways or A-roads! Maybe at Aldersgate abbey the motorway just turns into an a road (as they do in real life!) Some major a roads even have housing, so it would be a good use of space.
I think your petrol station is missing a building!!
Love the new hub! Can't wait to see the next episode. :)
let the motorway stay
Personally, I like the idea of changing the inner highway to something else. Thinking of my own hometown, we have had a part of a highway rebuilt in a slightly different shape, while they didn't bother to remove the old one. Instead, the old highway is now being used otherwise (some parts as a biking and walking path and some parts as normal road). Maybe something like this could be implemented in your city as well. So instead of tearing it all down and simply rebuilding something new, you could repurpose some parts of the "old highway".
let the motorway stay
33:01 why not just connect the bridge piece to the upper neighborhood rather than go down to ground level, then try to wind it up the hill
If I'm not mistaken, there's a convenience store type of building that goes with that petrol station, which is why the overhead piece extends out towards the back.
The editing towards the end really got me going damn!! go on biffa
It seems like there would be a hotel of some sort in this new transit hub area- for those visiting the medieval park as well as those who are either catching an early morning train or coming in late at night and/or need to wait overnight for their connection
Very US style transit hub surrounding it with massive roads and nothing else
Yes - in the UK we don't really have that kind of transport hub - we have railway stations in the urban centre and then (if you're lucky) bus and metro stations adjoining them. Building a transport interchange on a greenfield site that is completely cut off from all residential and commercial districts just isn't how we do it (thankfully). And that station is ridiculously oversized for the number of routes you've got running from it...
Underpass, overpass, a sprinkle of trees. The cims of Blighty are all waddling free
Making good use of our public transit, but forgetting to give the ring road an exit!
That pedestrian overpass has completely lost the plot ... just build a straight path out from Aldersgate, which is already high enough to cross the motorway, and then carry on in a straight line dropping down to the station.
I mean, making people walk down, round in a big loop, alongside a motorway, back up, then round in another big loop ... it *is* what a lot of councils would do, but Blightea Council should be better than that!
You can change that "Michael Wood Services" sign with the "Procedural Objects" mod.
One probleme with these videos it that it's all builds and fixes, and no just stepping back and watching the action. I would suggest recording same shorts. Just point the camera at something. Record a minute or two or three, then put it out as a short.
Maybe a view of a station with people coming and going.
Following a ferry boat in one of the coastal city.
A cityscape view with the day/night cycle switched on.
Doing this might be a way the bring in more subscribers.
Name idea for the shopping area by the railway arches:
Arch Tea Shop Centre
Love the additions!
Lowering speeds for encouraging ring road sounds great.
Thanks
An inspiration! Lovely build, really like the park next to the medieval neighborhood.
36:00 you could just lower the speed of the roads with the traffic manager mod and you wouldnt have to redesing everything
Actually a bit depressed this city hasn't been uploaded in a while 😮💨
Same here, especially as it seemed like it was going to continue with the question at the end!
I would leave the motorways as they are. If you put them down in speed I feel you will end up over whelming the ring road. The intersection on ring road where the new hub is should have been changed to a round about I think. That is going to get very busy. Love the vids.
I love the idea of getting rid of the inner motorway. Blighty currently feels like 5 or 6 different towns, but removing the inner motorway could make it feel like one connected place
I think making sure everywhere has enough parking would add to the realism more. Some of the big residential towers don’t seem to have much
I keep thinking the Mediaval Park is missing a ring-road, one that runs along the walls, interally.
37:00 Put a Magic Roundabout instead of the motorway crossing!
(How to build a Magic Roundabout?
1. Build a large Roundabout with all connecting roads.
2. Replace the one-way roads in the roundabout with bi-directional roads.
3 Replace all road connections to the roundabout with small roundabouts.
4. Done.)
I love how your overpass has to go to the ground and then curve up a hill instead of just continuing as a bridge XD
27:25 Congrats! Now there is no metro line between Wold and Feltham😂
I rather like that large interchange (the whirlpool). It'd be cool to keep it and figure another way 'round :) (especially considering all the time you spent fixing it live :) ) And I made it to the last BotW video out thus far :D! What a time spent binging videos!
Such a great series, thanks Biffa!
I wouldn't swap the motorway to a smaller collector, it makes sense being a motorway to bring cars in from off the map. If you want to encourage use of the ring road, maybe have less junctions on to the motorway from the various bits of the town, and more links to the ring road instead. I feel like ring roads are notorious for having lots of roundabouts in them
Around time 11:30 into your video when you are connecting your railroad lines, the one line is going right through a bridge post. Also at 21:42, the intersection with the ring road doesn't allow everyone to enter your new transit area.
HAving direct metro connection between the two train stations is redundant since they are linked together by a train shuttle. Prefer a complementary metro network. Plus that train station metro station would have been in the right alignement to serve the medieval town.
You convoluted overpass should be in a T not in an H configuration, the big branch of the T should be directly connected to the road up... Seems so obvious doesn't it?
I would keep the middle as a highway instead of a slower road.
I'm not sure what purpose the new hub serves. It's connected to the outside world and to the other hubs, but it's only barely connected to the actual districts it sits between.
Currently if you live in the midival park and want to go to the rest of the city you have to drive to the highway, onto the circle, onto the hub. At which point it's faster to drive strait to your destination. Or walk through the very long detour around the wall, and through the paid for park.
The other side of the highway is a bit better connected with the free pedestrian bridge but its still to great if you are going further from there.
In general your public transport seems to be C shaped, having a distinct gap between the episode 1 city and the new hub.
Overall this new area holds a lot of promise but needs some better integration and polish.
Nice episode, cya on the next one.
Looks amazing, you can also make a over ground metro instead of the highway in the middle
You have Upper Tea Hampton and Lower Tea Hampton, now you need an Outa Tea Hampton, you could stick it outside the ring road and make them an outcast little town.
Biffa! Your ring road doesn't have turning lanes into your new transit hub area, that's why vehicles keep disappearing at the entrance
If you are going down the outer ring-road high-speed route (good idea!), then you'll have to remake all the junctions? Look at the London inner, it's all roundabouts and proper motorway-type junctions.
Maybe split up some of your train lines from the new station to the old one. You compact 3 lines down to two at one end and then expand it out to 3 at the other end, surely splitting it out into 3 lines with small cross joins would prevent any train congestion caused by too many trains wanting to use the one line
I think it would be more realistic if the railway tracks that pass the wall of the Old Town were lowered enough so the trains are below the heigh of the wall when viewed from within the old town- maybe put into a cutting similar to the motorway? It’s likely that the old town would be protected/ listed and the elevated railway would have a negative visual impact upon the heritage area. Also if you took the tracks from the two central platforms the two incoming lines could run parallel to each other and you could mirror the other platforms