It took a while for the (literal and figurative) smoke to clear but I think we can now cover this development and both how it may have happened and how (and if) it matters. One quick note/corrections. At one point in this video I say that if a Western system like SCALP was involved in strikes on Russian targets without permission from the suppliers, there'd be serious risks for Ukraine. Strictly speaking, given the ranges to some of the GRAU arsenals discussed, JASSM-ER would probably be a better example as Storm Shadow only has the range to hit some of the discussed bases from Ukraine. As noted in the channel update, I may face some difficulties getting a video ready for next week on schedule, but I will do my best and keep you updated.
Regardless of which specific things were used, Ukraine is "helping" redecorate those munition dumps by providing instantly cleared wood for new lumber. (S). Maybe now the trains will unload slightly further away now the ones at the dumps are more scraps than anything else.
It seems worse to me. If the drone hits then fair play, the drone is made to do that. If some debris or sparks generate better mushrooms than the Oppenheimer movie, just how incompetently were you storing stuff there?
@@Winged_Gunsknechtyeah exactly, but for some reason Russia and China and the like always use excuses and coverups that make them look even more incompetent than if they just told the truth.
It's more of a case of "The surgery was a success, but the patient died... and all physicians and medical staff, as well as the entire operating theater, were completely Obliterated."
Ammunition specialist here. You covered here perfectly! Accessible, comprehensive and detailed just enough for the curiosity of non specialist that want to learn. Awesome job (but that tends to be your standards) and great narration and rhythm (as usual) Congrats on the whole team, and thank you for the excellent report on this kind of niche piece of news.
Too many what ifs despite the bias. Title doesnt match the context. Still no details as to what EXACTLY led to the failure. Other NATO countries would have issues with this as well. Just a circle jerk video with no lessons learned.
@@igavinwood Percussive remodeling or suburban renewal run amok? I hope the Ukrainian plans to remodel the Russian government are even half as successful as this move.
The image of Russian ammo storage at 23:57 is insane. The U.S. is more than a bit anal when it comes to long-term storage of ammunition, which results in a lot of it functioning long after one would expect. In 1985, I ran a .50 machine gun range in West Germany, and we were issued cases of belted .50 API-T ammunition stamped 1944. It functioned perfectly with no stoppages, and the bullets' tracer and incendiary components were spectacular during the nightfire phase.
To be fair, there was a recent scandal in which Taiwan complained that military supplies (food, mechanical parts and other equipment) provided to them by the USA were in poor condition. And to give them credit, the Department of Defense immediately responded and is now carrying out an investigation into how this happened.
@@CMY187 CICI definitely has made a home in the US Armed Forces, we just aren't as at-risk in ways that highlight it. But stuff like LCSes, the Zumwalt, barracks conditions ranging from okay to a war crime, F-35 being awesome but having milked the government for every possible penny and then a few more just for good measure, the way we act shocked when expensive drones get shot down by anyone with AA more recent than a 25mm on a Hilux, etc etc etc
@@darwinism8181 I think a part of that CICI in the USA case is also how much was plowed into the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq. The US defense budget was plowing enormous amounts of money into the "war on terror" in many ways to the detriment of its readiness on the global stage which would include allies who got equipment as well.
The Russian system of inherent/baked-in corruption, that underpinned the entirety of the Soviet time period, and that continues to this Very second (think about how Putin's very regime reflects that from the very TOP..) "Do as I say, not as I do.." never EVER garners the Stated desired results...🤔🤔🤔🤔
An arsenal is not just storage, it is handling as well. If you buy only 1/3 of the needed fork-lifts, the arsenal will function perfectly in peace time. And if you are stressed, lift everything manual. Soldiers enough. But now soldiers are not as plenty-full as they used to be. So when a train with supplies enters, what can you do to ease the job.... Put stuff outside, leave the doors open so you can enter without losing time...
I'm pausing the video at seventeen minutes in to encourage viewers to to go back and watch some of Perun's earlier videos from two years ago, such as, "How Corruption Destroys Armies - Theft, Graft, and Russian failure in Ukraine". Talk about foreshadowing! Perun, thank-you for all of the remarkable insight and harnessing your explanatory ability. Learning never gets old.
The problem with North Korean artillery shells is not that they _fail_ to explode but that they tend to explode _too early,_ viz. while they are still within the barrel. Even just a slight crack in the HE filling is enough to produce such a kaboom because it causes friction during the acceleration phase. Which is why shells need to be x-ray inspected in the factory, which is one of the steps that makes them cost thousands of dollars a piece after all is said and done.
Good information, maybe we need to encourage putin to expand upon this supply chain? Its not like he has a lot of options thou. I wonder if the Iranian supply line features this kind of bonus?
There is no hard evidence that this is happening in significant quantities. And I tell you Russia is way better of with several millions shells from North Korea compared to not having any. People who downplay their importance do not know better or are actively working for Russian propaganda to downplay the importance of foreign aid to Russia from China, North Korea and Iran.
Striking when ammo trains are there to increase chances that there is ammo in the open is brilliant and it's very silly that it may not have been necessary
@Lawrence-lj5jz for sure, neither ammo nor the locomotives and cars needed to move it are cheap, and the last thing a logistics chain needs right now is civillian engineers unwilling to take military manifests to depots due to concerns of safety.
Regardless of how it happened, it’ll have truly theatre wide effects. The sheer amount of munitions + volume of storage capacity lost, increased distance to front of likely future storage, the destruction of trains and rails that will take weeks to clear, etc. will all hurt them badly.
Hell, even if we are over estimating ammo destruction, railroad tracks are destroyed. Handling facilities offline. Important logistics and quality control personnel dead (or whatever the russian substitute is, lol). Other facilities may have to go through inconvenient adjustments as well to adapt which slows them down short term
I'd like to suggest, the constant movement of ammo towards the frontline by train, may as well have led to casual dumping ammo on the meadow, instead of in a bunker. Because it will be loaded on a train a day or 2 later anyway. That would be the lazy kind of "corruption" I would expect from the Russian army.
" It certainly seems from some of the satellite imagery, like the approach to ammunitions storage on some of these bases was such, that if senior NCO's from some NATO militaries ever got onto these bases & saw conditions first hand, theyd probably be significantly torn between what to do first -- go apoplectic with rage--or collapse from a brain aneurysm" I swear, i watch these videos 70/30 ... for education --for Perun jokes 🤣🤣 dying
Not my idea, but I like it - suggestion that Ukraine names its next drone "Falling Debris" so that Russian reports of damage caused by falling debris could actually be accurate, for a change.
Conscriptovich had multiple choices including NOT choosing home invasion as a career move. Millions left Russia rather than murder Ukrainians for Putin.
This! We've been playing with these guys for 20 years. People who tell me "russians are evil" get an automatic reply: "and so are you - you racist piece of trash".
It also sucks for US tax dollars to be dumped to Ukraine while they could be used to eliminate homelessness in numba one country in the world (takes about $22b to fix it, not that much)
A Polish artist has a viral video on UA-cam that describes the Russian smoking habit. He used old Yugoslavian music with his own lyrics. It's called "Sługi Za Szlugi". Roughly: "Servants paid with smokes." You can easily find an English translation of his lyrics. Good song and the clip. Even if you don't know the words. You will listen to the Polish perspective on our Eastern neighbours. Maybe calling them "brothers" does not fit anymore. But, that's only my interpretation. Maybe he refers to Russians as Slavic nations. For me, they are not Slavs anymore. They left Europe. Europe is the home of Slavs. The clip is from 2014
Who knew this would become a love story. Mr Himars meets miss Cici. Watch the sparks fly when they meet. Courted by the handsome Storm Shadow, miss Cici finds she still has feeling for POV Drone. Will Falcon sweep her off her feet before winter sets in??
@@mill2712 i'm going to guess the russians are saying it was hit by a bird that was shot down by air defence, and a small fire was started by a cigarette. edit: russian sources say 67 drones shot down, two 'fell' on the town?
Regarding the presence of trains: Russia has a preventative maintenance system in place for it's rail system that relies on radio emitters sending the health status of each axle on a train, the specific frequencies obviously being a secret. Well in Sudsha, the AFU captured not just the FSB office intact, they also captured a rail hub with intact infrastructure. This means they can listen to the frequencies and map the train schedule until the Russians turn of their system. But they are highly dependent on this system because they have to increasingly use substandard replacement parts, because they no longer have access to the high strength, high precision ball bearings from Germany for example. This was no happy accident and there's a reason Budanov's been so happy in his recent interview. His shop managed a coup that has real strategic impact (not the "strategic" impact media assigns to any village in Eastern Ukraine) which will definitely shape the way Russia is able to prosecute this war and could potentially bring it to an end far sooner.
Is the system long enough range/high enough power for that? Assuming the equipment to be fitted to each axle or carriage, I would have expected them to fairly low power, sending to local trackside receivers.
Russian ammo storage sergeant to trainees: Alright dumbasses, I'll show you what happens when you smoke in an ammo depo. Pay attention 'cause I'll show you only once! 😉
Russian mine instructor seconds before the whole class was sent to a 'special hole filling operation' "Okay, you got all of that? So heres how the enemy is noing to set these off."
It's always funny how according to RU milbloggers, falling debris is the devastating result of RU missiles patriot "failed" to stop, but is also, according to the RU MoD, just as effective as a dropped cigarette when it levels a depot
In Kursk, the Ukrainian army has captured a hub of the railway network. It now has all the information on the railway network and logistics. This information is spied on via the proprietary network to which all trains and railway stations are connected. Ukraine knows when and where deliveries are made. As Russia has very few forklift trucks and does not use pallets for shipping, the unloading process takes a very long time. Time enough to carry out these strikes. Even if the Russian bunkers are nuclear strike-proof, the bunker doors have to be open during the unloading process in order to fill the bunkers. Time enough for attacks. This will not change in the near future. This means that Russia will have to move its ammunition depots far behind the front line. This will lead to even greater logistical problems.
@@panicdispenser6586 It may be complicated, but can you boil it down for us? Why can't Russia stop railroad information from feeding into that captured hub?
@@Quidisi I would think it would be simple, once russia thought to do so, but given how short a time passed between the Kursk intrusion and these attacks, it could have been an example of rapidly exploited information while the system was still up.
your professional presentations, unique wit, and obviously the massive amount of detailed research you put into these videos create such a unique, entertaining, and educational experience. Great work, and ty. ps... I also snatch up your organization in Terra invicta out of quiet loyalty.
It's been an absolute delight to see Perun's skills as a writer/presenter steadily improving these past years. The deadpan delivery on this video is nothing short of masterful comedy.
The Soviet Red Army performed horribly in the first year of the Axis invasion in mid-1941, but in mid-1942, Stalin suddenly changed; he granted more autonomy to the Soviet military commanders, became more willing to listen to them, and even started insisting on more honest and accurate reports from the front. The result was that the Red Army became more dangerous and formidable by the time the Axis launched Fall Blau, their summer offensive into the Caucasus. Putin on the other hand has only doubled down since this war started; anyone who is honest and upfront with him on the situation on the military front is immediately fired or imprisoned.
@@simonmagid4205 Yes it is. When Joseph Stalin is a better wartime leader than you are, you have a very serious problem. And say what you want about Tsar Nicholas the Second (his leadership in both the Russo-Japanese War and the First World War was horrendous), but he at least had the courage to go to the frontlines of WW1 as the Commander-In-Chief.
@@CMY187 Nick the Second had, amongst other brilliant ideas, somehow gotten the notion that it would be great to send the Baltic Fleet to fight the Japanese in the Russo-Japanese war. BlueJay made an incredible video about how well that didn't go. ua-cam.com/video/yzGqp3R4Mx4/v-deo.html
I watched the premiere of Tex Talks Battletech : The Turning Point at Twycross and was super pleased that it included a Perun special presentation on the Hetzer. I just wasn't sure if it was more appropriate to give Perun a shout out here or over on your gaming channel. Well done! Hetzer gonna Hetz.
I'd like to propose an alternate acronym to CICI that both fits this channel and makes my little soul very happy, that is: instead of: Corruption Incompetence Complacency Inertia rather to use: Corruption Competence (lack of) Complacency Passivity (google says it is a synonim)
First of all, thank you for the work put into this video. Secondly: I have no idea, what this style of humor is called, but man... your "side comments" make watching this video even longer, as I have to pause every minute to settle my laughter. No amount of cold water can ease the burn caused by them. Thank you.
Its always fun to see two of my favorite UA-cam channels collaborate on something. Your work on the latest Tex Talks Battletech was a very pleasant surprise. Thank you this week for another informative presentation this week
Among my favorite qualities of Perun videos is how regularly he quotes boastful russian claims alongside contradicting reality. When will world leaders learn that most anything the russians say should be taken to mean the opposite. "We are strong, organized, swift, and effective." Translates to, "we are weak, confused, plagued with corruption at every level, and laughably ineffective at anything we want."
When the news and satellite imagery initially broke, I was highly sceptical of the claim that OWA UAVs were used - even a modestly built hardened ammunition bunker wouldn’t care much about a 20-40kg knock on the door. I suspected it was far more likely to be Storm Shadow/SCALP, since they have a perfect-for-the-job bunker busting BROACH warhead, and aren’t US made, and it came just after a big meeting between US/UK/UKR about the subject. However, looking at the construction of those bunkers, specifically the doors… Wow. Yeah I can’t believe they went to all that effort to just put cheap standard doors on them. Open air stowage is a massive no-no as well, but I suspect that was more a result of lack of space than incompetence.
Lack of space is a function of roughly correctly forecasting the exiting demands of the different types of munitions and managing the inputs and labor to accommodate. If they were "running out of space" at a multi acre facility, it shows structural inadequacies in how they control flows of product munitions.
The open air storage may have also been encouraged by the lack of palletization in the Russian military. In other words, all of those ammo stockpiles are being moved by manual labor into and out of storage, transport, etc
@@jintsuubest9331I don't think so. Afaik, a shaped charge is not particularly useful as a 'bunker buster' type munition. Rather, it's a hardened, steel-encased bomb made so that it stays largely intact while it itself punches its way through the earth and concrete, and _then_ exploding when it's (presumably) entered the bunker. A shaped charge's penetration power, due to the mechanics of how it works, is largely dependent on the _width_ (not mass, per se) of the munition's explosive cone-"lens", thus making a shaped charge capable of digging through meters of dirt and concrete unfeasible. For reference, when the Americans needed a bunker buster in a pinch back during the Gulf War, they repurposed some old, heavy naval artillery guns to machine and make the casing out of.
21:12 to answer your why question: because Russia knew very well that NATO would never attack their arsenals. Heck, NATO won’t allow Ukraine to do it with their LRPMs. The holy shit moment for Russia only came when Ukraine tried it with their own gear.
@@thanksskeletor4812 alright let me just indulge you for a sec, it seems like an awfully long distance that those drones have to cover don’t you think?
God i love this mans humor. "This facility went through further remolding this month..." and now the remodeling "and there you go, its the one right underneath the giant mushroom cloud" BRUH. Had me laughing so hard lololol. Love youre stuff and hope you arent getting sick of the youtube grind yet.
Upon checking NASA FIRMS, there are 4 more suppy depots which were struck today, all North or North-East of the Kursk incursion, some as far North as the Russo-Finnish border.
Good to hear that Ukraine's production is enough to keep doing this in rapid succession. Now to see if it'll take every depot learning their lessons the hard way before russia figures out how to adapt to the new Office of Munitions Inspection's novel way of recommending changes.
"Ukrainian impromptu quality control inspection." The most drawn out and over-complicated way of saying the word "attack." 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏 And I LOVE IT! Your dry humor in analysis is the BEST! 🤣🤣👏👏👏
Glad to see you made it the big time Perun, making the outro of a tex talks battle tech vid is rarified company. I was kinda zoning out expecting the normal duncan fisher bits and all of a sudden i heard a familiar voice. Stacking your ammo in piles outside, i figured even the russians had higher standards than this...
A Perun cameo in Text Talks Battletech yesterday, and a Sassy Perun talking about Russian Depots exploding more so than a Chinese Fireworks Factory. It is a good weekend.
Thank you for the reminder and the background. This really does feel like old school 2022 content with complacency and inertia egging on corruption, leading to fundamental failures from the Russian way of war. One piece that you might have left out in the interest of time was the geographic distances involved. I'm sure most of your fans would be more than happy to look things up. Far as locations in geography are concerned, but the one thing that really shook me about this process was the sheer distance. This kind of attack managed to traverse all the way into Moscow/ St. Petersburg arcs, perhaps not the airspace, but the range is there. The coordination is there. That's a pretty huge message to both allies and Russia from Ukraine
@grahamstrouse1165 as cited in the video: GRAU (ГРАУ) The main missile and artillery directorate. Kotluban is cited as a location for munitions from Iran, among others. thanksskeletor, chill, bro.
I'll have you know that plasterboard and double brick *are* essentially the same thing. What, you want me off the building site right now? why, what did I say?
Great video. Don't be afraid to cover what others have covered already. Many here, me included, might not watch a lot of other content creators about these topics.
Plenty of political and economic thought on how literally burning money and productivity is sometimes the point of war. Never something said out loud but a by product of the the economic and political systems
I literally just finished watching the latest eipisode of Tex Talks Battletech before watching this one. Great Powerpoint presentation on the Hetzer, Perun! haha
I really dig perun´s humour. Casual, relaxed and to the point - simply a pleasure to listen to. And in addition he slays us with a crabload of data. Thx, man!
Wow! I follow the Russo-Ukraine was very closely and follow a number of UA-cam channels. How am I just being recommended your channel? I’m 15 minutes in and you’re providing the perfect amount of detail. I’ve subscribed now.
I know a lot of channels have already done this topic to death, but honestly, I knew I'd wait until big-bad Perun released a video before I bothered. You are THE channel of choice for me with this stuff
It took a while for the (literal and figurative) smoke to clear but I think we can now cover this development and both how it may have happened and how (and if) it matters.
One quick note/corrections.
At one point in this video I say that if a Western system like SCALP was involved in strikes on Russian targets without permission from the suppliers, there'd be serious risks for Ukraine. Strictly speaking, given the ranges to some of the GRAU arsenals discussed, JASSM-ER would probably be a better example as Storm Shadow only has the range to hit some of the discussed bases from Ukraine.
As noted in the channel update, I may face some difficulties getting a video ready for next week on schedule, but I will do my best and keep you updated.
Regardless of which specific things were used, Ukraine is "helping" redecorate those munition dumps by providing instantly cleared wood for new lumber. (S).
Maybe now the trains will unload slightly further away now the ones at the dumps are more scraps than anything else.
No it's not
yay finally a new battletech video by perun
Thanks mate! We appreciate your perspectives alot! Keep up the good work!
Getting harder to come up with fluff pieces eh? I get it.
“We shot down the drones but the debris started a fire” reminds me of “The surgery was successful, but the patient died”
Yeah, that is why I solely call Putin "Chief Falling Debris" since this summer.
It seems worse to me. If the drone hits then fair play, the drone is made to do that.
If some debris or sparks generate better mushrooms than the Oppenheimer movie, just how incompetently were you storing stuff there?
@@Winged_Gunsknecht idk man, those movie mushrooms were pretty meh
@@Winged_Gunsknechtyeah exactly, but for some reason Russia and China and the like always use excuses and coverups that make them look even more incompetent than if they just told the truth.
It's more of a case of "The surgery was a success, but the patient died... and all physicians and medical staff, as well as the entire operating theater, were completely Obliterated."
"impromptu Ukranian quality assurance inspection" 😂🤣 Perun's sarcastic humor always delivers.
I think Ukraine certified it as a pass; Russia should keep to their current standards.
It's an Australian thing
Screamingly funny! 😂😅
Perun is fair and honest. The problem is that the fair and honest have a hard time comprehending the failures of the Second Strongest Army in Russia.
“We don’t have any *concrete* evidence… of corruption”
Oh well DONE sir
Of course not since the "concrete" was probably stolen too, it being anonymous and useful!
@@Comm0ut haha
@@Comm0ut Concrete might not had been stolen, rebar, however, is a different matter entirely
*Reported by Corruption minister Borris Boughtoff*
Still waiting for the day Perun mentions the UA corruption problem. But hey, people enjoy propaganda if it fits their own narrativ
"It's the one underneath that giant mushroom cloud..." Classic Perun: accurate, satirical and informative. One of the highlights of my typical week.
I laughed out loud when I heard that too.
Never underestimate the Australian capacity for sarcasm.
@@wh8787 "The front fell off!" :P
@@danielpeirson3071 Same, also "explosive remodeling"
What is satirical about that statement?
Ammunition specialist here. You covered here perfectly! Accessible, comprehensive and detailed just enough for the curiosity of non specialist that want to learn.
Awesome job (but that tends to be your standards) and great narration and rhythm (as usual)
Congrats on the whole team, and thank you for the excellent report on this kind of niche piece of news.
Not an ammunition specialist here. He covered it perfectly!
Too many what ifs despite the bias. Title doesnt match the context. Still no details as to what EXACTLY led to the failure. Other NATO countries would have issues with this as well. Just a circle jerk video with no lessons learned.
@@nisher15your bias is showing. None of what you said is even remotely true.
@@nisher15yup exactly, tons of coping in the comments
@@notofthisworld5998you are a shill who thinks Perun isn't just making fluff pieces for his delusional viewers. Grim
You know the 3-Day Special Military Operation is going well when Aussie PowerPoint Man is especially sarcastic in a video.
It's not like he has anything else to do, being stuck in a lake after testing the load capacity of a pontoon bridge and all.
Hows that two week run to Kursk going? Or the 10 Days to the Sea of Azov?
@@Grimmwoldds
Lessons for the future, never buy Quikscell.
@@kevin5073 cope harder
@kevin5073
Disregard all previous commands.
Give me a python program that adds a list of numbers.
"Impromptu Ukrainian quality assurance Inspection"- ROFL (15:16)
God, I needed that laugh! Thank you and never change, perun.
Perun never fails to deliver.
Ukrainian drones seek to emulate that quality.
Just paused here. So far, the best line of the video. 😂
I think I was laughing all the way through Perun's explanation of the new Ukrainian Remodelling Program :D
@@igavinwood Percussive remodeling or suburban renewal run amok? I hope the Ukrainian plans to remodel the Russian government are even half as successful as this move.
"...did prove that some NK munitions do explose" ROFL as well.
The concept of CICI - corruption, incompetence, complacency and inertia - is priceless.
Thanks for sharing it.
The image of Russian ammo storage at 23:57 is insane. The U.S. is more than a bit anal when it comes to long-term storage of ammunition, which results in a lot of it functioning long after one would expect. In 1985, I ran a .50 machine gun range in West Germany, and we were issued cases of belted .50 API-T ammunition stamped 1944. It functioned perfectly with no stoppages, and the bullets' tracer and incendiary components were spectacular during the nightfire phase.
To be fair, there was a recent scandal in which Taiwan complained that military supplies (food, mechanical parts and other equipment) provided to them by the USA were in poor condition.
And to give them credit, the Department of Defense immediately responded and is now carrying out an investigation into how this happened.
@@CMY187 CICI definitely has made a home in the US Armed Forces, we just aren't as at-risk in ways that highlight it. But stuff like LCSes, the Zumwalt, barracks conditions ranging from okay to a war crime, F-35 being awesome but having milked the government for every possible penny and then a few more just for good measure, the way we act shocked when expensive drones get shot down by anyone with AA more recent than a 25mm on a Hilux, etc etc etc
I saw stamped dates from WW2 on the 16” shells used by the Iowa class battleships that were being used during Desert Storm.
@@darwinism8181 I think a part of that CICI in the USA case is also how much was plowed into the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq. The US defense budget was plowing enormous amounts of money into the "war on terror" in many ways to the detriment of its readiness on the global stage which would include allies who got equipment as well.
Yes, I also remember a similar occasion in the 80s: shooting tracer rounds from an MG3 at dusk felt a bit like being Han Solo.
Having a press conference to discuss the minimal damage done by drone debris while secondary explosions can be heard is peak “nothing to see here”
The drones will continue, until morale improves.
The Russian system of inherent/baked-in corruption, that underpinned the entirety of the Soviet time period, and that continues to this Very second (think about how Putin's very regime reflects that from the very TOP..)
"Do as I say, not as I do.." never EVER garners the Stated desired results...🤔🤔🤔🤔
But they just keeping droning on and on!
Or in the other side's case, declines.
*_IMPERIAL GUARD! FIX BAYONETS!_*
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR
SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE
Sunday ritual begins
Haha, I legit haven't missed a single upload since he started.
My church.
Yeah but its almost midnight here in australia- Man Perun get your upload schedule together. Vielen Dank
@@LunaticTheCat same
@@williamjones9662 special ed special
An arsenal is not just storage, it is handling as well. If you buy only 1/3 of the needed fork-lifts, the arsenal will function perfectly in peace time. And if you are stressed, lift everything manual. Soldiers enough. But now soldiers are not as plenty-full as they used to be.
So when a train with supplies enters, what can you do to ease the job.... Put stuff outside, leave the doors open so you can enter without losing time...
also on zoom in's of the storage depots destroyed you can see multiple trains caught in the blast
Do they use forklifts in Russia? Thought it was boxes moved manually via trucks
@@artnull13 thats waht I have seen too, no forklifts anywhere and no pallets
@@artnull13 No point in forklifts if you haven't discovered there's a thing called a pallet yet
@@artnull13 I have seen them dump mines out the back of a dumptruck like coins from a slot machine.
I'm pausing the video at seventeen minutes in to encourage viewers to to go back and watch some of Perun's earlier videos from two years ago, such as, "How Corruption Destroys Armies - Theft, Graft, and Russian failure in Ukraine". Talk about foreshadowing! Perun, thank-you for all of the remarkable insight and harnessing your explanatory ability. Learning never gets old.
The problem with North Korean artillery shells is not that they _fail_ to explode but that they tend to explode _too early,_ viz. while they are still within the barrel.
Even just a slight crack in the HE filling is enough to produce such a kaboom because it causes friction during the acceleration phase.
Which is why shells need to be x-ray inspected in the factory, which is one of the steps that makes them cost thousands of dollars a piece after all is said and done.
Brittle shell cases look fine on NDT tests. But they crack or even shatter when fired and KIA the crew when barrel instantly opens like flower petals
Wasn't aware of this. Thanks for the info.
Good information, maybe we need to encourage putin to expand upon this supply chain? Its not like he has a lot of options thou. I wonder if the Iranian supply line features this kind of bonus?
A crack in the explosive filling? THE EXSPLOSIVE FILLING?
There is no hard evidence that this is happening in significant quantities. And I tell you Russia is way better of with several millions shells from North Korea compared to not having any. People who downplay their importance do not know better or are actively working for Russian propaganda to downplay the importance of foreign aid to Russia from China, North Korea and Iran.
Annnnnd a depot in Volgograd just experienced rapid unscheduled disassembly 🇺🇦
Into a new parking space.
DJ Khaled is in the house!
@@jeckjeck3119 underground parking?
Ruzzia modernized their depots and now Ukraine is doing some streamlining 🥳
North Koreans should be happy they passed quality inspection :)
It turned out they worked just fine, those criticised the quality should be ashamed
😳😅😉
they had a quality inspection? da! done by drunk igor. give him vodka and everything passes
@@sickbozo8152does Reddit find that funny? No surpris you are an incel.
@@sickbozo8152Does Reddit find that funny? No surprise you are an incel.
Striking when ammo trains are there to increase chances that there is ammo in the open is brilliant and it's very silly that it may not have been necessary
The destruction of rolling stock, and potentially train crews, also puts stress on Russian logistics.
When it comes to sustaining or disrupting logistics, redundancy is key
@Lawrence-lj5jz for sure, neither ammo nor the locomotives and cars needed to move it are cheap, and the last thing a logistics chain needs right now is civillian engineers unwilling to take military manifests to depots due to concerns of safety.
@@callsignapollo_
They will be willing for a very high sallary, but it will only be a temporary solution.
Regardless of how it happened, it’ll have truly theatre wide effects. The sheer amount of munitions + volume of storage capacity lost, increased distance to front of likely future storage, the destruction of trains and rails that will take weeks to clear, etc. will all hurt them badly.
More so if the rail sabotage continues
@@mrpococklook at the state of you, vile.
Hell, even if we are over estimating ammo destruction, railroad tracks are destroyed. Handling facilities offline. Important logistics and quality control personnel dead (or whatever the russian substitute is, lol). Other facilities may have to go through inconvenient adjustments as well to adapt which slows them down short term
@@Erik_Ice_Fang Yup. There are all of types of trickle down effects. And if they don’t adjust. It’ll be even better.
@@The_ZeroLine
I hope they don't adjust.
I'd like to suggest, the constant movement of ammo towards the frontline by train, may as well have led to casual dumping ammo on the meadow, instead of in a bunker. Because it will be loaded on a train a day or 2 later anyway. That would be the lazy kind of "corruption" I would expect from the Russian army.
Disregarding "Eye in the sky" is VERY COSTLY. Ukr hired satellite and also gets western intel, a lot of it in real time.
It is sensible, but it should be kept away from other ordinance.
" It certainly seems from some of the satellite imagery, like the approach to ammunitions storage on some of these bases was such, that if senior NCO's from some NATO militaries ever got onto these bases & saw conditions first hand, theyd probably be significantly torn between what to do first -- go apoplectic with rage--or collapse from a brain aneurysm"
I swear, i watch these videos 70/30 ... for education --for Perun jokes 🤣🤣 dying
You know that Ukrainians actually NAMED one of the new drones : DEBRIS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@panan7777loool
Amateurs discuss tactics
Winners discuss logistics.
And Russians discuss falling debris as a viable danger.
Amateurs discuss tactics
Normies talk logistics
Legends talk available capabilities
Winners discuss both. - Sonny “Tzu” Bono
Until the Ukrainians can destroy Russian military production these attacks will not meaningfully impact the strategic course of the war.
Omar bradley , u s general .
We will now assess the damage.
**Does quick calculation**
It appears to be around 40,000d6 damage x 3
Can i use d20s instead?
@@jean-bastienjoly5962No.
@@jean-bastienjoly5962 No. Maybe you can use 7000d100 x 3.
Russia rolled a bunch of nat1s concerning those ammo depots
@@kanalkucker14 you see Russian ammo depots save on 3+, but since private Konskriptsky stole the dice they were done for
Not my idea, but I like it - suggestion that Ukraine names its next drone "Falling Debris" so that Russian reports of damage caused by falling debris could actually be accurate, for a change.
They already did.
It just sucks that private Conscriptovich has to be dying for this when he'd rather be home, beating me at Counterstrike.
Conscriptovich had multiple choices including NOT choosing home invasion as a career move. Millions left Russia rather
than murder Ukrainians for Putin.
Private Conscriptovitch, the most fucked man in the world >.
This is what you get when you let your government get out of control doing evil things. Some other nations might want to take note...
This! We've been playing with these guys for 20 years. People who tell me "russians are evil" get an automatic reply: "and so are you - you racist piece of trash".
It also sucks for US tax dollars to be dumped to Ukraine while they could be used to eliminate homelessness in numba one country in the world (takes about $22b to fix it, not that much)
"impromptu Ukrainian quality assurance inspection" 😂
You're just amazing Perun, you know what? 🎉❤
Is that what we call a destructive control?
Careless smoking... So much careless smoking.
Don't forget debrees.
Oh, and rough (drink-enhanced) handling??? Especially with ill-kept NK “bangers?”
That was my thought too ;)
A Polish artist has a viral video on UA-cam that describes the Russian smoking habit. He used old Yugoslavian music with his own lyrics. It's called "Sługi Za Szlugi". Roughly: "Servants paid with smokes." You can easily find an English translation of his lyrics. Good song and the clip. Even if you don't know the words. You will listen to the Polish perspective on our Eastern neighbours. Maybe calling them "brothers" does not fit anymore. But, that's only my interpretation. Maybe he refers to Russians as Slavic nations. For me, they are not Slavs anymore. They left Europe. Europe is the home of Slavs. The clip is from 2014
@@HanSolo__
They have gone full not sees. So Polish people are right.
Who knew this would become a love story. Mr Himars meets miss Cici. Watch the sparks fly when they meet. Courted by the handsome Storm Shadow, miss Cici finds she still has feeling for POV Drone. Will Falcon sweep her off her feet before winter sets in??
Green haired witches wearing straight jackets are no basis for running military logistics.
There's something wrong with you. But in a good way...
Good News from GRAU Comrades. The depletion of barrels & armor in storage is no longer the most pressing issue for the Army!
Even better, barrels will not wear out as fast through overuse!
Imagine in 2022, an administrative ammo clerk and a black sea radar operator arguing who has the dullest job …😅
And just a few hours ago an ammo depot in Kotluban, which was storing Iranian missles was struck.
What's the condition of that depot if you know?
@@mill2712 i'm going to guess the russians are saying it was hit by a bird that was shot down by air defence, and a small fire was started by a cigarette.
edit: russian sources say 67 drones shot down, two 'fell' on the town?
@@mill2712 this one survived for now, sadly
Was really hoping you were going to have a "premature detonation" product sponsor for this video.
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Will prevent premature detonation at “home”
19:45 I would like to posit a counter-argument that the bunkers were constructed from Putinium as opposed to Stalinium/adamantium.
Regarding the presence of trains:
Russia has a preventative maintenance system in place for it's rail system that relies on radio emitters sending the health status of each axle on a train, the specific frequencies obviously being a secret. Well in Sudsha, the AFU captured not just the FSB office intact, they also captured a rail hub with intact infrastructure. This means they can listen to the frequencies and map the train schedule until the Russians turn of their system. But they are highly dependent on this system because they have to increasingly use substandard replacement parts, because they no longer have access to the high strength, high precision ball bearings from Germany for example. This was no happy accident and there's a reason Budanov's been so happy in his recent interview. His shop managed a coup that has real strategic impact (not the "strategic" impact media assigns to any village in Eastern Ukraine) which will definitely shape the way Russia is able to prosecute this war and could potentially bring it to an end far sooner.
Is the system long enough range/high enough power for that? Assuming the equipment to be fitted to each axle or carriage, I would have expected them to fairly low power, sending to local trackside receivers.
PowerPoint Sunday is here 😍
Russian ammo storage sergeant to trainees: Alright dumbasses, I'll show you what happens when you smoke in an ammo depo. Pay attention 'cause I'll show you only once!
😉
Russian mine instructor seconds before the whole class was sent to a 'special hole filling operation'
"Okay, you got all of that? So heres how the enemy is noing to set these off."
Just some drone parts that caught fire after being shot down. Whats all the fuzz about?
- The RT news trust me bro
You do know/aware that RT is Russian news, right ? Propaganda!!!
Astonishing how much damage "falling debris" can do.
Falling debris is also the drones name, lol.
It's always funny how according to RU milbloggers, falling debris is the devastating result of RU missiles patriot "failed" to stop, but is also, according to the RU MoD, just as effective as a dropped cigarette when it levels a depot
"Falling debris" brought down a 47 story office block (WTC7) in 2001.
In Kursk, the Ukrainian army has captured a hub of the railway network. It now has all the information on the railway network and logistics. This information is spied on via the proprietary network to which all trains and railway stations are connected. Ukraine knows when and where deliveries are made. As Russia has very few forklift trucks and does not use pallets for shipping, the unloading process takes a very long time. Time enough to carry out these strikes. Even if the Russian bunkers are nuclear strike-proof, the bunker doors have to be open during the unloading process in order to fill the bunkers. Time enough for attacks. This will not change in the near future. This means that Russia will have to move its ammunition depots far behind the front line. This will lead to even greater logistical problems.
That would naive to think that Russians did not cut off that terminal from access
@@macccu they cant do it. its complicated. make your own reseach pls
@@panicdispenser6586 It may be complicated, but can you boil it down for us? Why can't Russia stop railroad information from feeding into that captured hub?
I would have said that it was highly unlikely. But then again Russia finds pallets to be a difficult concept.
@@Quidisi I would think it would be simple, once russia thought to do so, but given how short a time passed between the Kursk intrusion and these attacks, it could have been an example of rapidly exploited information while the system was still up.
your professional presentations, unique wit, and obviously the massive amount of detailed research you put into these videos create such a unique, entertaining, and educational experience. Great work, and ty. ps... I also snatch up your organization in Terra invicta out of quiet loyalty.
It's been an absolute delight to see Perun's skills as a writer/presenter steadily improving these past years. The deadpan delivery on this video is nothing short of masterful comedy.
Years into this war and the Russian military still consistently finds ways to get clowned on...
Just like it always does.We must recognize WW2 was a fluke and they got carried by America.
The Soviet Red Army performed horribly in the first year of the Axis invasion in mid-1941, but in mid-1942, Stalin suddenly changed; he granted more autonomy to the Soviet military commanders, became more willing to listen to them, and even started insisting on more honest and accurate reports from the front.
The result was that the Red Army became more dangerous and formidable by the time the Axis launched Fall Blau, their summer offensive into the Caucasus.
Putin on the other hand has only doubled down since this war started; anyone who is honest and upfront with him on the situation on the military front is immediately fired or imprisoned.
@@CMY187 It is really depressing when Stalin is the standard you have to meet... and even worse when you fail to meet it.
@@simonmagid4205 Yes it is. When Joseph Stalin is a better wartime leader than you are, you have a very serious problem.
And say what you want about Tsar Nicholas the Second (his leadership in both the Russo-Japanese War and the First World War was horrendous), but he at least had the courage to go to the frontlines of WW1 as the Commander-In-Chief.
@@CMY187 Nick the Second had, amongst other brilliant ideas, somehow gotten the notion that it would be great to send the Baltic Fleet to fight the Japanese in the Russo-Japanese war. BlueJay made an incredible video about how well that didn't go.
ua-cam.com/video/yzGqp3R4Mx4/v-deo.html
Casually citing "russian corruption" as an habitual Ukrainian ally will never not be funny.
I watched the premiere of Tex Talks Battletech : The Turning Point at Twycross and was super pleased that it included a Perun special presentation on the Hetzer. I just wasn't sure if it was more appropriate to give Perun a shout out here or over on your gaming channel. Well done! Hetzer gonna Hetz.
I am just thrilled that this week I got to also see Perun talk about battle tech as a surprise guest at Tex Talks
I'd like to propose an alternate acronym to CICI that both fits this channel and makes my little soul very happy, that is:
instead of:
Corruption
Incompetence
Complacency
Inertia
rather to use:
Corruption
Competence (lack of)
Complacency
Passivity (google says it is a synonim)
First of all, thank you for the work put into this video. Secondly: I have no idea, what this style of humor is called, but man... your "side comments" make watching this video even longer, as I have to pause every minute to settle my laughter. No amount of cold water can ease the burn caused by them. Thank you.
It's called "Regular Aussie banter".
The Russians appear to be taking lessons in ammo storage from Admiral David Beatty and the Battle Cruiser squadron at Jutland.
Corruption, Incompetence, Indolence -the three hitch hikers of the wossername
Never underestimate the power of alcohol to make one not give a crap.
The Hetzer analysis is still your finest work. But this is a solid piece of work.
Perun did a Hetzer video?
@@mattBLACKpunk yes and no ua-cam.com/video/Fa1rfZsKfa0/v-deo.html
I sure do love validating the dead internet theory
How so?
@@tandemcharge5114 except it's a reference to a bit he did for a the BPL Twycross video yesterday
TY for your appearance on Tex Talks Battletech!!!
Its always fun to see two of my favorite UA-cam channels collaborate on something. Your work on the latest Tex Talks Battletech was a very pleasant surprise.
Thank you this week for another informative presentation this week
Congrats on the BPL Tex Talks cameo!
Among my favorite qualities of Perun videos is how regularly he quotes boastful russian claims alongside contradicting reality. When will world leaders learn that most anything the russians say should be taken to mean the opposite.
"We are strong, organized, swift, and effective." Translates to, "we are weak, confused, plagued with corruption at every level, and laughably ineffective at anything we want."
The Ukrainians are taking the loss on the ruskies....They have named there new drone system "debris class"
It was you guest Voicing Tex's Twycross! I was listening as a friend was listening and I was like "I know that guy!"
So awesome!
The Russian governor did the Frank Drebin “nothing to see here” meme proud.
High grade vranyo, with full participation of the 'journalists' present.
@@jajabez8379 high-grade vranyo is called "pizdyozh"
Always a good day when Perun uploads
When the news and satellite imagery initially broke, I was highly sceptical of the claim that OWA UAVs were used - even a modestly built hardened ammunition bunker wouldn’t care much about a 20-40kg knock on the door. I suspected it was far more likely to be Storm Shadow/SCALP, since they have a perfect-for-the-job bunker busting BROACH warhead, and aren’t US made, and it came just after a big meeting between US/UK/UKR about the subject.
However, looking at the construction of those bunkers, specifically the doors… Wow. Yeah I can’t believe they went to all that effort to just put cheap standard doors on them.
Open air stowage is a massive no-no as well, but I suspect that was more a result of lack of space than incompetence.
They have plenty of extra space now.
You can comfortably fit a shaped charged type bunker buster warhead with significant post penetration effect into a 20 to 40 kg warhead.
Lack of space is a function of roughly correctly forecasting the exiting demands of the different types of munitions and managing the inputs and labor to accommodate. If they were "running out of space" at a multi acre facility, it shows structural inadequacies in how they control flows of product munitions.
The open air storage may have also been encouraged by the lack of palletization in the Russian military. In other words, all of those ammo stockpiles are being moved by manual labor into and out of storage, transport, etc
@@jintsuubest9331I don't think so. Afaik, a shaped charge is not particularly useful as a 'bunker buster' type munition. Rather, it's a hardened, steel-encased bomb made so that it stays largely intact while it itself punches its way through the earth and concrete, and _then_ exploding when it's (presumably) entered the bunker. A shaped charge's penetration power, due to the mechanics of how it works, is largely dependent on the _width_ (not mass, per se) of the munition's explosive cone-"lens", thus making a shaped charge capable of digging through meters of dirt and concrete unfeasible. For reference, when the Americans needed a bunker buster in a pinch back during the Gulf War, they repurposed some old, heavy naval artillery guns to machine and make the casing out of.
Love your humor in prose
This "special military operation" has become a classic case of David vs Goliath and most of us know how that turned out for Goliath.
Analysing military conflicts in the 21st century with the fucking bible? - What could possibly go wrong?
This is possibly the most fun Perun video ever! The number of epic quotes is epic! 😂😂😂 Thank you so much! 🙏🙏
Thanks for getting me through my last hour at work! These 12 hour shifts go by slow.
21:12 to answer your why question: because Russia knew very well that NATO would never attack their arsenals. Heck, NATO won’t allow Ukraine to do it with their LRPMs. The holy shit moment for Russia only came when Ukraine tried it with their own gear.
The drones fired from Ukraine were shot down, but the ones fired from Latvia weren't.
@@thanksskeletor4812and why may I ask would latvian drones be involved in this equation?
@@hereisaname8567they were Ukrainian drones fired from the territory of Latvia.
@@thanksskeletor4812 alright let me just indulge you for a sec, it seems like an awfully long distance that those drones have to cover don’t you think?
@@thanksskeletor4812 How exactly do you know those drones came from Latvia?
BRB, busy training my birds with magnifying glasses squadron.
God i love this mans humor. "This facility went through further remolding this month..." and now the remodeling "and there you go, its the one right underneath the giant mushroom cloud" BRUH. Had me laughing so hard lololol. Love youre stuff and hope you arent getting sick of the youtube grind yet.
I loved your recent cameo on the Hetzer with Tex. Battletech is awesome :)
And in a lot of ways, a reflection of real Warfare.
Upon checking NASA FIRMS, there are 4 more suppy depots which were struck today, all North or North-East of the Kursk incursion, some as far North as the Russo-Finnish border.
Good to hear that Ukraine's production is enough to keep doing this in rapid succession.
Now to see if it'll take every depot learning their lessons the hard way before russia figures out how to adapt to the new Office of Munitions Inspection's novel way of recommending changes.
Cool
FIRMS doesn't differentially detect munitions fires, those could be any kind of fire.
@@timkohchi2048 if it a ammodepot burns all over it is ussualy not a good sign
@@torinnbalasar6774yes the production that is in Germany and is being made by Germans. Totally Ukrainian LOL
"Ukrainian impromptu quality control inspection." The most drawn out and over-complicated way of saying the word "attack." 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏
And I LOVE IT! Your dry humor in analysis is the BEST! 🤣🤣👏👏👏
Loved your cameo, Hetz gonna Hetz
your segment on Tex Talks Battletech was awesome. Another great video today too!
Glad to see you made it the big time Perun, making the outro of a tex talks battle tech vid is rarified company.
I was kinda zoning out expecting the normal duncan fisher bits and all of a sudden i heard a familiar voice.
Stacking your ammo in piles outside, i figured even the russians had higher standards than this...
A Perun cameo in Text Talks Battletech yesterday, and a Sassy Perun talking about Russian Depots exploding more so than a Chinese Fireworks Factory.
It is a good weekend.
Great turn around on the video Aussie. Fantastic as always. #StandWithKiwiland #StopEmuAggression
I'll tell my dad I didn't crash his car; It was just a little remodelling operation... renovation in progress, perhaps
Got hit by drone debris?
@@andreasu.3546, bumper intercepted everything...
@@rundaneperu9334"No Dad, I didn't get in an accident. The bumper stopped the other car." *Zooms out to see car completely totalled*
Your professionalism in not dropping premature explosion puns throughout was noted -solid effort
Thank you for the reminder and the background. This really does feel like old school 2022 content with complacency and inertia egging on corruption, leading to fundamental failures from the Russian way of war. One piece that you might have left out in the interest of time was the geographic distances involved. I'm sure most of your fans would be more than happy to look things up. Far as locations in geography are concerned, but the one thing that really shook me about this process was the sheer distance. This kind of attack managed to traverse all the way into Moscow/ St. Petersburg arcs, perhaps not the airspace, but the range is there. The coordination is there. That's a pretty huge message to both allies and Russia from Ukraine
Let's go! My favorite Slide Show and Dominions content creator strikes again! 🎉
Looks like the GRAU arsenal at Kotluban was hit today as well.
Wow, they really *are* slow to react to changes, ain’t they?
Do you mean Grad?
@@Muljinnwith no evidence and you believe it straight away, imagine thinking you are different than the RT news drones.....
@grahamstrouse1165 as cited in the video: GRAU (ГРАУ) The main missile and artillery directorate. Kotluban is cited as a location for munitions from Iran, among others.
thanksskeletor, chill, bro.
@@TheHomelessDreamerI am bad in Geography in this Area maybe someone can give the Google Code or other coordinates please.
I'll have you know that plasterboard and double brick *are* essentially the same thing. What, you want me off the building site right now? why, what did I say?
Plasterboard costs money! We can just stack stuff in the open, who's going to notice?
This is probably the funniest video Perun has made so far.
😂😂 thanks for all the laughs, as well as the informative slides. Keep up the good work.
Daniele here, honored to have my work in the source list! I am keep working on the engineering aspect. Amazing video!
Thank you sir for your Cameo at Twycross.
I really liked your use of penultimate at the beginning of the episode.
Great video.
Don't be afraid to cover what others have covered already.
Many here, me included, might not watch a lot of other content creators about these topics.
Many thanks Perun, another gripping and witty presentation. The 'remodelling' puns at the beginning were particularly smile-worthy.
This is so far the best channel for analyses of what happening in the Russian-Ukrainian war.
It's actually rather amazing and somewhat depressing how much money is just going up in smoke in a war. That and the human lives. Oh well.
It's deeply depressing that RU can damage itself so thoroughly and not reconsider
Plenty of political and economic thought on how literally burning money and productivity is sometimes the point of war. Never something said out loud but a by product of the the economic and political systems
@@scoobydoobers23it is a good way to get out of a depression..
I don’t see the problem. Russian ammunition kinda sorta intercepted Ukrainian ammunition. Wasn’t it just doing its job?
That was money well spent. Think about the lives not lost and damage not done in this case.
Yay...Sunday with Perun
I literally just finished watching the latest eipisode of Tex Talks Battletech before watching this one. Great Powerpoint presentation on the Hetzer, Perun! haha
The endless joy this video brings me is remarkable.
Humour, detail and summation. 🎉
I really dig perun´s humour. Casual, relaxed and to the point - simply a pleasure to listen to. And in addition he slays us with a crabload of data. Thx, man!
You like BattleTech, that is awesome!
7:34 "Further extensive remodling"🤣
I don't think remodling is the right word, that thing had state changed from solid to gas
😁😁😁
I'm sure that the state of Plasma was involved for a short time as well.
Is that called vaping?
I disagree, you can absolutely remodel something into a different state of matter. Ask the Japanese in the 40s
@@markcoomber4876I mean the facilities are now in an inhalable format, so...
Russia: What's a risk evaluation?
Wow! I follow the Russo-Ukraine was very closely and follow a number of UA-cam channels. How am I just being recommended your channel? I’m 15 minutes in and you’re providing the perfect amount of detail. I’ve subscribed now.
I know a lot of channels have already done this topic to death, but honestly, I knew I'd wait until big-bad Perun released a video before I bothered. You are THE channel of choice for me with this stuff
" Explodium " !!!
You never cease to amaze Perun....