Israel-Hamas War: Piers Morgan's FIERY Debate On Two-State Solution
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- Опубліковано 21 січ 2024
- Piers Morgan Uncensored holds a passionate debate with author and commentator Douglas Murray and Palestinian National Initiative leader Mustafa Barghouti over whether there should be a two-state solution to achieve peace in the Middle East.
Responding to Piers Morgan's monologue calling for a two-state solution, followed by an interview with Israeli ambassador Mark Regev, Douglas outlines why he thinks most Israelis don't think now is the time for such a solution - a view that is countered by Mustafa, who accuses Netanyahu's government of 'fascism'.
The pair continue to go back and forth on the subject before Piers has to remind them: "I'm the anchor!"
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There will never be peace or justice in the world where criminals make the rules.
Western politicians
HAMAS CRIMINAL
Exactly. Kick out all muslim dictators
How is it the US fault for what happened October 7 or the conflict ??
@@topgtommy7314Probably going to rant about the world order ...
They don't renew their lines often, you need to think to improve.
Please mute mics when it’s not their turn to speak
Mute Morgan's mic
Gotta mute to moozyz or they start screaming “shut up please” 😂😂
😂😂😂 O.M.G. Even Pierce Morgan's. I Just can't anymore
Do not give pallies a platform, they can only lie.
@@fazarath2955cry more
"You shut up please" 😂
😂
Morgan was about to cry when Dauglas mic went off...😢😢😢
Arguing with fools is like playing chess with a pigeon.
Especially Murray, who is fed from blood money!!
Or with me. 😂 However I understand law and logic and fairness
@@Turyahiwhat terrorists does he support Arrafat??
Why you gotta bring pigeons into it 😂
Arguing with fools is like wrestling with a pig 🐷
You can educate a fool, but you cannot make him think.
We want to see a religious debate..
I AGREE. EX: PRO-PALESTINIANS! They cannot think, they are just a puppet for HAMAS.
Genocide denier Douglas Murray.
@@KateBates22zabubecause there is no 'genocide'!!! 😝
@@KateBates22zabu theres not even a genocide to deny in the first place. what kind of genociders fucking warn their victims .drama queen. the insanity of calling J E W I SH P E O P L E genociders for simply waging a war against terrorists who use hospitals as rocket launching pands. fucking insane world we live in ngl.
Piers is always like, "I am the anchor and I'm going to let Murray speak" and then let's him rattle on interminably.
What are you talking about?
That's because they're both paid by Murdoch who has strong ties to the IDF. He employed ex IDF people to hack his competition.
@@Noahac2 bruh, did u even watch the "debate"?
3 pro Israeli propagandist against one fact checker!
Piers always call Douglas when he needs someone smart and strong in his debates ❤️😎
This interview is a good example of one guy who's right with good intentions vs another who's wrong and just trying to win an argument for his own ego
so you are leaving it as a challenge for the viewer to identify who is who
These ambiguous comments are just like-bait
Absolutely, one is a fascist the other is Douglas Murray
@@KingofEverything1 you mean the other is a coloniser
@@johnnyman9513 What's wrong with colonising? Every civilisation that has ever existed has colonised? Or are you just bigoted in terms of which groups are allowed to colonise and which groups aren't?
The question is: does Piers still have moral quandary?
Yes, what is a “proportionate response” to attemped extermination. “proportionate survival”?
😅
NOPE 👎🏿
@@roundedges2you’re either a completely gullible fool or sick individual.
Why doesn’t the mic get shut off when one person is speaking so that they cannot get interrupted?
it wouldn't draw money from advertisers, simple as that sadly.
Israeli sound engineer
I've always wondered the same thing
God shut off murray. He also had enough of murrays shh.
@@orientalgirl8926 I dunno murray brought up some key points that should be addressed, I don't care what side your on, it is shady to be paying terrorists salary with aide money.
Douglas murray is like if bilbo baggins and ben shapiro merged together and had an eye problem
He is very handsome but you are clearly very upset that he showed that Palestinian interviewees support terror and lie. He bought concrete proof.
i agree. Douglas basically gets funded by AIPAC
This 😂😂😂😂
Beautiful comment 😂 I bet the people who idolise good old duggy duggy Murray wouldn’t be too happy to hear this.
The line, "Shut up" makes me happiest person in the world
The older I get, the less I understand this horrrible world we live in
I actually have much more clearer picture of this world, as I get older.
Put yourself in others shoes. Don't seek out media that supports your views. You probably watch too much Al Jazeera.
@@almac9203It's time for Israel to find a new homeland where they will be accepted
@@Webaus
It’s time for Islam to be replaced by something much better.
@@Webaus Jews already tried it "several" times. Did not work.
piers morgan should do a debate between douglas murray and owen jones
No even better bring Mohammed Hijab he would make Douglas regret the day he was born hahahaha🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Douglas Murray should write his racist books and not talk in front of a camera. It's a very unpleasant experience to watch.
Murray is zionest shrill just like piers and 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 GOVERNMENT
Mohammed is gay@@mansourbellahel-hajj5378
Nah, Bassem Yousef or Miko Paled
This whole situation is a perfect example of us being unable to agree upon the facts and therefore being unable to have productive conversation.
Absolutely…impossible to come up with a solution when we can’t even agree on a set of facts.
Yeah dude, I feel like to get a proper understanding of the whle situation would take a lifetime of study, everything we see here has some amount of bias or propaganda in it, the true facts of the situation probably require a very cautious reading of history, shame as I feel I'll never know the answer to how to fix this cursed land
@@therealjordiano We Americans have a very complicated history more complicated than Israel's history. Israel is not even a century old, we are almost 300. There's history before the modern state of Israel, so too is there history before the modern state of the United States. Yet we figured our sh*t out with all our different ethnic groups. I really don't care about the history of that region. The US said there will be a 2 state solution, Netanyahu said no. That's in direct defiance of the US. If Israel wants to become the enemy of a superpower, makes no difference to me.
It’s simple: those who came from outside have a state while those who lived there already and never left their land are without a state. All the rest is just noise. It suits Israel to drown this basic fact in a lot of noise.
@@anaesthesia1549 you’re just proving my point - I’ve heard argument that completely dispute your claim. One thing is for sure - it’s not simple
No one has milked this situation more than Piers Morgan
Maybe. But Piers Morgan has invited a wide range of people with differing views to speak and argue on this conflict. He has also shown himself to be tractable.
Al Jazeera, which has good coverage of Gaza and what is going on there and of the pro-Palestine movements and commentary, is 'partly or wholly funded by Qatar' (proclaimed on the AJ channel) and does not routinely cover the Israeli perspective.
Qatar supports Gaza financially and shelters top Hamas leaders; no surprise then that AJ (tied to Qatar's leaders) does not report even- handedly.
Most media are focused most intensely, quite rightly, on the rising death poll and humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
So if Piers Morgan invites Douglas Murray to speak on this conflict, while the viewer is not going to get an impartial report or opinion, it is opening up the perspective from Israel. It is important to try to gain more understanding of both sides of this very complex situation.
Piers gave everybody who wanted a voice. Even barbarians who support Palestine.
the only barbarians are the people who still support israel..its like supporting nazi germany @@elkobit7415
@@elkobit7415yup he does.. even war criminals like Netanyahu and a Apartheid Apologist like Douglas Murray .
And Murray
The civil war in Ethiopia has resulted in the death of some 600,000 civilians, a staggering estimate for a conflict that has lasted only two years and has been focused on a single region, Tigray, of around six million inhabitants.27 Jan 2023
It's not Jews killing Muslims so no one cares - that's the kind of sick world we live in - the Pallies have better PR than the Ethiopians (or anyone else for that matter) and the Iranians are milking this conflict for everything they can - all so Israel and Saudi Arabia won't sign a normalization treaty. Almost all the "learned people" posting have zero clues about the real reasons for all of this.
The difference is palestine has been colonised by europeans and americans.. until palestine is not a state again there wont be peace
😢
Why do you confuse civil wars, by same people, with the murders carried out by Israel? Also, this is not a contest for who killed more !!!
We need social media attention
Finally back to the “moral quandary” 😂
Yep finally I like this
And you're still complaining and still watching it ? 😀
@@firelordtotwo2551 yes! It’s what I live for, apparently! 😜 … that’s not a complaint… 🧐.
But when does too much stop being not enough, and when does not enough result in genocide tho??
@@PunkiBrooster genocide? By who? Do you think Churchill committed genocide against German children? Did America commit genocide against Japanese children? Don’t be a hypoc/rite.
we tend to forget that there is one man arguing the merits of israel in his own language and another who can't possibly debate the matter in his second or probably third language. It completely reflects the situation we are witnessing in Palestne.
Yes, the bias is unerring and unnerving. The exact same is undoubtedly true on the other side..The arabic versions of piers morgan.
It's astounding how they all manage to miss the point.
Maybe you are missing the point.
As a Brit I wonder how you can accept for a British person to speak on behalf of the Israeli Government. He shouldn’t be on your platform before he educates himself.
As a jew we support murray if its ben looks to biased
Both you and Murray are supporters of murder of Gaza.
Douglas Murray speaks on behalf of truth, decency and morality.
@@jimwerther nope, you misspoke_ untruthful, indecency, and immorality is what Gutless Furry represents
@@jimwerther Paid.
Albert Einstein said: "repeating the same experiment and expecting a different result is insanity".
he didn't say that... but nice lie bro... if something makes sense it dosen't make it true... and the point of this argument may be addressed to both sides. but I think it's more important to mention that Einstein never said that... another example of post truth historical revisionism
@@ordro107 You can't proof he did not say that just as i can't proof he did. The saying is true nonetheless. Nice try.
@@ordro107'Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ' According to a large number of inspirational mugs and posters, this famous quote comes from none other than Albert Einstein.
Now, even if he didn't make that remark? It's still a valid common sense reference. It applies even to you're dumb** !! What a Pendejó you are genius !!
@@erezklein5769That is a puerile response. By your logic you can fabricate anything. At least tell us something that Einstein said that is relevant to the discussion.
@@erezklein5769 reddit logic
The bias is crazy 🤦🏾♂️
So.... do YOU want to answer the question instead of Barguti?
It's a good bias
He did answer it. He said they were freedom fighters, fighting against occupation which they are allowed to do under international law. Do Israeli soldiers (terrorists if the PA are terrorists) get paid by their government? Yes they get salaries too.
@@peadarmccarthy14 so how does murdering innocent civilians including babies and women have anything to do with "freedom"? If anything, it will only lead you to more restrictions and jail time.
@@peadarmccarthy14 if they don't like Jews occupying their own land then they should leave. Jews lived there thousands of years.
I had the exact same thought as Mustafa. Why did Peirs have the Israeli spokesperson for the complete previous segment but for this segment Mustafa has to share the time with another person from the pro Israel perspective. Either both should have to share time or he should dedicate complete segments to each view.
And I’m wondering why the crazy terrorist gets to talk at all?
Piers and doug 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮are dewish rentboys
Stop bothsidsing between Israel and Hamas. Who you want him to bring Sinuwar’s spokesperson? U know who that is even? Overall Piers has brought countless Islamists and voiced their agenda very respectfully . Luckily they exposed their criminal ideology better than anyone else could so I don’t object to him bringing them on… unlike u who think everything should be marxist equality
@@ordro107 I never said Hamas. Don't put words in my mouth. It's also inaccurate as I was comparing the pro-Israeli and the pro-Palestinian perspectives. Saying that that is tantamount to Hamas is both reductive and intellectually dishonest.
@@russelldinkins5801
When people say Pro-Palestinian they mean pro-Hamas, but they can't say it our loud.
Piers gets upset when Murray is spoken over but not vice versa.
It's almost as if Mr Murray has more decorum.
Murray didn't argue or over the other guy
@@SMacCuUladh he literally does the same thing. the whole reason the Palestinian was speaking over him was to prove a point about his earlier lack of decorum.
@@manvbees he did. I bet Israel paid for all that plastic surgery too. I bet he’s having a lot of fun in Tel Aviv, being a raging homosexual and all.
Is Douglas too obtuse to realize Israeli foreign policy is responsible for the migrant crisis he constantly laments? That which is actively encouraged by Israelis and their Western contacts?
Seemingly so.
Because we’re all utterly sick of Islam --
This guy is ready to fiercely debate anyone but when he was asked to debake Norman finkelstein he said no my stomach hurts
Because he’s a coward, he knows he’ll get his ass handed to him
The Palestinian postion is untenable.
They never had a country, never
Finkelstein has a mind illness, why would anybody want to debate him
will norman finklestein agree toa debate with a pro israeli historan,like benny morris? someone who would ask him why he always talks of the nakba but never talk of 1929 hebron and safed massacre and 1938 tiberias massacre? who would ask him when did a plo leader agree to recognise israel a jewish majority nation?
@@user-we4ih1tp7nhe already has. Murray whipped his ass.
Get Owen Jones on against Douglas. Or put him up against Finkelstein.
Douglas is so shameless, he is using the same method that Pierce is using, interrupting the speaker and trying to confuse them.
murray has no shame and is full of pride... and pride is the number one sin in the Bible... but being his typical type he worships lucifer with all his soul... just like netenyahoo and his ilk!
The confusion is the result of being confronted with the truth... we're sick of pro palastinians lies.
Or, Murray's opponent is dodging and purposely being slippery.
How? He brought receipts.
Douglas is the man with facts and the other is just mumble jumble crumble
Is pierce and Murray a couple?😂😂
You are an idiot for asking that!
@@FreeBangladesh-gn7iw 🤣🤣
Rumour has it they are. Douglas the man, Piers the woman in the relationship.
Douglas is trying to impress piers bosses, Douglas wants his own show. But watch it will fail because he is showing the world how ugly his intentions are.
Which one is the bich?
Murray visits the Israeli embassy more than his mother 😂
Or a male gigolo
why not - a lot safe than many other emabassies.
he has a face only his mom will love
Barghouti asks questions yet can’t answer a single one. Why do they keep wheeling out this confused old mouthpiece
Well, he's got to get his paycheck before they change the narrative like they do.
His numbers are dropping well done people
Dislike all his videos too and unsub
They were artificially inflated by Arabs and Muslims that do not care about his show. Now that interest in Palestine has waded back down, and he does less about it in his show - they returned to their Arab/Muslim shows.
@@advance512 There is a boycott on his show pal
Douglas Murray vs Bassem Yussef please
Yes!!!!
2 hosts and 1 guest
As one father said, " thanks, Israel and the western media for showing the world who you are and what you do"
Your point, if any?
Am Yisrael Chai
Get help dear .
Will pray for you
yeah funding there money to palestine
@@Bluemoon98-2go take your pill
@@mya4126ohh thank you honey I took my vitamins already today .
Anything also clever to say. Or you just know how to copy paste dumb comment other made ?
"The people of Gaza have the right to hate the people who destroyed their lives"common by Norman Frankenstein.
Norman is a butthurt fraud who made a living off his parents tragic stories. That dude is the devil through and through, nice try tho
You can hate whoever you want, but id doesn’t mean you murder them.
@@-ruzh24244 So, do you condemn the acts of terrorism by IDF?
@@UA-camMusic-ic5rp you mean the acts of terrorism by Hamas? Yeah
@@UA-camMusic-ic5rpthe IDF go to great lengths to avoid civilian casualties
Omg how biased Piers is. He didn't ask Murray once to stop interrupting but asked Dr. Barghouti to stop interrupting Murray. Dr. B didn't even get the chance to make his point
@@henryg3313don’t say it’s gonna be a fair debate and then clearly side with only one of the guest
Thats your hypocritic answer? Are you dumb?@@henryg3313
Wow, Piers! Way to fact check...the Einstein quote.
Gutsy😂😂😂
I knoooooow.. Right??? Why risk being embarrassed like that?
I know. Breathtaking. Not. After, he mucks up the whole point of a two-side debate by brazenly torpedoing the Palestinian guest and siding with the fascistic Zionist.
“I am in favor of Palestine being developed as a Jewish Homeland but not as a separate State. It seems to me a matter for simple common sense that we cannot ask to be given the political rule over Palestine where two thirds of the population are not Jewish. What we can and should ask is a secured bi-national status in Palestine with free immigration. If we ask more we are damaging our own cause and it is difficult for me to grasp that our Zionists are taking such an intransigent position which can only impair our cause,” Einstein said in a letter in 1946, according to the Shapell Manuscript Foundation.
@@msbramble176 Or Zionist interlopers can move back to Brooklyn and Poland, where they belong if they are incapable of respecting their Palestinian hosts.
I wonder, how did Israel gain the right to give or not give rights to Palestinians?
Through American support and money, and a superior military.
Because the land belong to Israel
Palestinians have their rights. It also is limited due to the hostile government they voted for just like anywhere else on this planet.
Because the Palestinians refused to create a state from 1948-1967 when Israel couldn’t stop em 🤷♂️
Moral lesson warning. Egypt, in 1967, invaded Israel through the Sinai and Gaza. Israel repelled Egypt back across the Sinai. Withdrawing back to Gaza, which they kept as spoils.
Moral of the lesson, don't invade if you aren't willing to lose...
8:22 Murrey: "Let's talk about the genocide, of course that's the case ..." 😮 The International Court of Justice stated a "plausible suspicion" of genocide...
Murray a person who has never lived in the West Bank or Gaza over Mr. Barghouti who has lived his whole life there. I’ll trust the arguments from one with lived experiences.
I would love to see Douglas Murray debate Norman Finkelstein, and then we'll see if his arguments are valid or not
Pretty sure Murray refuses to speak with Finklestein - he calls him a psycopath.
He is a coward and would never face that genius
Read a book.
@@TheMithridates purr projection. Murray is a psychopath and a coward.
True.
so piers gets angry when the dr interrupts Murrey but when Murrey is insulting and interrupting right before he is silent?
Yes, that is exactly how it goes.
Pierce is a hypocrite and zionist lover
Because he is paid b Zionists
piers gonna defend his boyfriend at any cost
The Abdul wasn’t answering the question
Did I hear correctly? Barghouti just said have a proper 2 states (based on pre-1967 borders) or one democratic state with equal rights for all. I'll prefer the latter.
I am not sure if a 2-state solution is feasible anymore. Israel has fragmented the West Bank, built settlements into the Palestinian WB territory, physically separated Palestinian villages, and proved that it (Israel) never wanted a two-state solution. It was a farse for global audience while they sistematically expanded illegal settlements and stole Palestinian water resources
Yeah he forgot to add give us that state that we kept on rejecting in 80s, 93, 2000, 2008, 2012
Did anyone notice at 8:22 when this douglas man said ' let's talk about the genocide, of course that's the case..' ? 🤔
Lol. Ive never heard the word shut up so aggressively with the same meaning as SHUT THE F UP lol
😂😂😂😂😂 I’m saying! Like it had a jab with it.
@@bellad1063 lol. Reminds me of the spoof fake anchor interviews lol. Shut up!!! No you shut up!! No youuuuu. SHUT UP 😆
Lying is the most common form of resistance.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If on Pierce Morgan Uncensored
- Pro Palestine comments Censored
- Uncensored or Censored?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsall these comments are pro Palestine trolls ya clown
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsand plus wtf is a pro Palestine comment suppose to sound like? Inciting terror is banded everywhere incase ur too dense 😂😅🤡
Douglas is the model of the primitive liar.
Lying is what the zionists do best
Every time Murray was told to answer a question he ignored it and instead asked his own question. 😅
Literally answered the questions, came with facts and budgets. Asked Mr Barguti a question… who refused to answer then told him to shut up. The fact you tried to spin what actually happened is insane what a weirdo you are
12:55
The Exactly opposite maybe you need to watch again ?🤦🏻♀️
He brought the receipts…wtf did you watch? You Islamists lie even when proof is in your face lmao…Palestine all propaganda
White privilege
Douglas Murray is completely unqualified to have a debate in this area. He continually name drops about hanging out with the Israelis - this doesn’t make you informed, it makes you biased. His obsession with Israel is weird.
Your obsession of supporting hamas is weird and creepy.
Hamas has to be gone or not have any power over anyone if someone truly wants a chance for some better outcome.
Imagine what Gaza would look like if the multibillionaire leaders of hamas would have only focused on building and making their civilians lives better insted of saving their billions to themselves, building underground tunnels where they hide under their civilians AND on ATTACKING on october 7 there wouldnt be bombing.
😂😂ocean blue shut up, he is one of the most qualified journalist on the islam and middle East issues, I was watching him in debates about Israel in Winchester uni even in 2010. You know nothing
@@Mpc5061no you shut up I saw him say something dumb once in 2005 or something. What point are you trying to make?
@@Mpc5061 no thanks 💃🏼
Piers gets sexually aroused by the IDF. Piers and Douglas have a homosexual relationship. That's why he keeps coming back on the show like an ex you're trying to remove.
"Why should israel reward Palestinians with a state" the fact that Murray sees Palestinian basic legal rights as a reward is very problematic
They have no right to a state the Palestinian people were created the moment israel was formed lmao
Its a legit question, Why?
In theory, no problem with a Palestinian state (NOT from the river to the sea). In practice, you will need to switch the Palestinians to someone we can trust not to perform act of terror / martyrdom (take your pick). Why are we non-trusting? Multiple reasons, but the most obvious is that Gaza was practically independent since 2005.
@@b7otato well at least they had their lands and their dignity before your so called state is created.
That Murray guy is simply a bad person. I’ve heard him in another debate on the issue and I’m convinced he would have been a British Nazi supporter were he alive in the 1930s
Lol Douglas says you do not have the right to fight an occupation!! Wow.
I don't think I've ever come across someone as smug as Murray
You do, military targets not civilians and children.
@@rogerroger6049he is missing this small 🥸 moustaches
UN charter 2625 says you can resists occupation.
@@polillaasesinagameplays9976it has been reported that the IDF initiated the Hannibal doctrine. Meaning kill captors so they aren’t taken. Also The IDF still to this day didn’t release why there was no security and it took them a long time to arrive. I want to know exactly how many civilians both sides killed
2 pro Israeli propagandist against one fact checker!
Wrong again Abdul 😂
If they dont wanna give a state, Israël should leave and be revoked of name
I missed these debates by Piers about the most moral country in the Middle East.
Can you name the second most moral country in the M.E. too?
Good one!
Are you being sarcastic 😂
Loving the sarcasm
@@bamboo59.52 How is it sarcastic? And please use demonstrable facts.
In March 2019, Netanyahu told his Likud colleagues: "Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas... This is part of our strategy to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."*
It's a lie, never happened. But who cares, right?
Good, you can’t even tell us what is a Palestinian?
@@solvingpolitics3172A Human F n Being
@@solvingpolitics3172 you can't even tell us what democracy looks like
Yep and he said that after decades of hamas firing rockets into Israel.. Shows you how dangerous they must be
New talking point just dropped: this is not a good time to talk about a two state solution. Why on Earth would Israel "give" a piece of territory to the Palestinians? So Murray admits that Israel owns the territory, therefore it's not undergoing self-defense, and he doesn't even recognize that the land doesn't belong to Israel to give in the first place.
So what you’re saying is that Israel should not interfere with the plans of the arabs of the west bank of attacking it and killing all the jews?
100% also he said why would we reward Palestinians with 2 state!! So what your doin now is currently not rewarding but punishing Palestinians. Absolutely Disgusting. You can see evil in douglas no matter how much he tries to cover it
Of course it belongs to the Jews.
Even if not in 1948, it definitely did from 1967.
@@Matt_H_ might is right? Is that your standard?
@@Matt_H_ so if it belongs to Israel, then it is an apartheid state. They are on Israeli land and are not being granted the same civil rights as the rest of the population. You know you can't have your cake and eat it too.
One idea: shut the microphones of the listener while the other speaks. Set a chronometer.
"Mowing the lawn"
- Prof Norman Finkelstein
Youre lost
@@jknowstheway1462naaa you are just stupid. Kid
Finkelstein is mentally ill!
Then I guess the Palestinians must be the weeds
@@jknowstheway1462says the dumbass who probably doesn't even know anything about the person who said the quote
Douglas freaks me out when he widens his eyes.
He is a freak, all right.
@@andros1000whaaa 😢
Oct 7. Putin's birthday 🎉
"Check this out Putin, hope you are happy with us"
Putin and muslim in same boat
Murder, r... kidnappings torture
Who knew
@@HB-gj7gd Naw. Mariupol, raised to the ground by Russians. 400+ Palestinian towns raised to ground by…wait for it…Zionists. Gaza raised to the ground by …. You guessed it: Zionists. Cities raised to the ground by Palestinians of any religion: zero. I hope that clarifies who you are keeping company with.
He is vile
The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances…
Best part of the show was when we couldn't hear Douglas
Yes, the best part, there was no need to fast-forward
That was God, shutting him up.
So you didn't have to hear the truth.
Don’t embarrass yourself Abdul
comment was not correct so I have removed it. @salaciousone
did hamas or the plo mention a 2 state solution in which israel retains its jewish majority and they give up the "right of return " into israeli borders by third generation "refugees"? if so ,when?
2 state solution is already gonne when 6 countries attacked on isreal and lost all. Muslim steal 57 countries. Did they try to give back?? Even they remove non muslim.
I think you didn't follow the video. He said barghouti didn't want a 2 state solution, and brghouti was the one who called for a one stage solution. Were you watching another video?
@@user-we4ih1tp7nthey have for 30 years 😂😂😂😂😂
you're right. I beg your pardon, I must have mistaken who was saying what. Thanks for the correction@@salaciousone
The irony of Murray talking about corruption 😂😂 sorry does he know what his beloved netenyahu is facing charges of??
12:54 mustafa says in IMDCsnMsqg0 that PLO & Palestinian authority recognised israel (really?) so douglas is wrong in saying mustafa wants 'river to the sea' ?
@@nicbentulanthe PLO flag was still "from the river to the sea" at the time, and Arafat has admitted that he was only pretending to go with the Oslo peace process.
@@kjkh3104
THANK YOU GOD BLESS YOU
ok it says oslo is 1993 ...ok 3 decades ago still now mustafa could recognise israel ... oh but you think maybe mustafa is lying too?
@@nicbentulan What are the 3 no's? no peace with Israel, no negotiation with Israel, no RECOGNITION OF Israel.
Where is the recognition you are talking about? 'From the river to the sea Palestine will be free'? The hate Palestinian children were educated on in their education system is recognition? Palestinian leaders aren't even willing to admit the Jewish history in the land, there is 0 recognition, only towards the outside for political reasons, just like Arafat lied when he said he intended to go with the peace process.
Meanwhile in Israel, not just towards the outside, but the Israelis themselves did talk about peace, about two states solution, it's just that the Israelis understood that there is no partner on the other side, so this idea was stopped being seen as logical.
And you will have to be more specific on what Mustafa are talking about.
What ?
It wasn’t for Israel to give anyone a State.
But to take!! Right??😂
Yup!@@kiiorigin3544
@@kiiorigin3544Word!...
Both were offered such in 1947 UN Partition Plan. Israel immediately said yes. Palestinians immediately said no.
@@GD-rd6igsaid yes lol. They’ve been stealing and murdering for over 75 yrs. The west allows it because they’re white supremacists lol
" It's in the budget " Anytime some one has concrete material to back up their claims, I tend to give them more credence
How ignorant can you be? Even Barghouti confirmed PA is helping prisoners and martyrs families!
How is that a bad thing?
And by the way! Those fighters and prisoners are the most moral people on the planet, sacrificing their lives for their homeland, family and dignity fighting fascist genociders.
By martyrs do you mean the terrorists who decapitated Israeli teens with a shovel or the ones who raped 14 year old girls and shot them in the head?
Shall we have a look at the budget of the IDF, at least 4 Billion is given from United Kingdom and that's spent on bombs and tanks and fighters
@@yasinrahmati7750Facts!
@@hedzt6667 ... and the support of the IDF members killed or injured. As always, it is a problem when one side does it, but not when the other side does the same. Ridiculous
Is the Gaza Health minister not a member of HAMAS?
Douglas interrupts : Piers says nothing
Mustapha interrupts : Piers : "please let Douglas speak!"
Douglas doesn't answer the question and changes subject : Piers says nothing
Douglas asks a question : Piers : "please Mustapha answer the question!"
Pier is pro israel and he does not care about Palestinians. He should not lead talk about this conflict because he is biased. He needs to read some history
It is clear that piers is their puppet
what a lie! barghuti interrupts all the time, slurs, and complain... hypocrite like the entire Palestinian case
@@munthirmansour7554but to be fair even Palestinians don't care about Palestinians. They care about Islamifying Israel.
It’s like Morgan and his obnoxious mate Murray
“You shut up please” 😂
Hilarious 😂
I loved it!
Perfect way to treat Douglas Murray
That's about as rude as he gets.
Barghuti is a school example what happens to people after years and years of corruption
What is Douglas Murrays role in all this? Is he journalist , Israeli spokesman or wtf . Why do they keep interviewing him
Israeli paid promoter
@@break2262 just googled him. He a far right nut job. Guess hes brought on for the gaslighting rather than any meaningful discussion.
He values the democracy
we have.Those that are
always defending Islamic
countries should go live
There.Dont betray your
GOD gifted morality
and values.
to keep educating people that live in European fantasies when Islamists are preparing a world domination plan.
@@carlostorres4662 yeah ok with same token he’s British should he not be talking about UK democracy? Why is he in the occupied territories talking about democracy and supporting the occupier? BTW Israel is a Jewish states i.e a theocracy and is not a democracy. Democracy in Israel is only open to Jews not Christians or Muslims
WOW, I am very surprised and maybe little disappointed by Piers today, he didn't ask his guest his favorite question "Do you condemn Hamas?" (Which is a useless and stupid question BTW)
because people were tired of him saying that, why would you be suprised
I was thinking the same...
🤣😂🤣
To he fair, the fact that many of his guests didn't outright condemn them means the question was valid.
He’s had him on the show before he asked him then 😂
Why is the whole world so obsessed with Israel and Palestine? What about the Kurds, Sudan, Pakistan..? Nothing about them on the news
Because it is the holy land to several major religions
The Kurds, Sudan, Pakistan are not paying universities to easily moulded minds of woke morons. The people who know care, but corrupt BBC and other networks don't care either, therefore most of the public don't even know what is going on elsewhere. There could be people protesting right now about it, but the news won't show it, thus less noise about it. But yes, People should know, and I wish people would do more to raise awareness.
@Steve_Baker_Jones wich coexist for hundreds if not thousands of years. Million dead in Syria, nobody gives a damn - 25,000 (according to Hamas) everybody scream "genocide".
@@The_Voice_of_Reason748 exactly
Because it is not in the news when Muslims kill Muslims.
How is it that Murray has suddenly become an expert on the Palestine-Israel conflict?
Great question
He really isn’t. You won’t see him getting airtime anywhere meaningful, just by shock jocks like Piers and his ilk.
he's been a reporter covering conflicts in the middle east for around 20 years so you would hope he's familiar with the issues of the region
You can see hate in his face.
Why won’t someone ask Douglas Murray how much & by whom he is getting paid to be such a warmongering cvnt?
This palestinian reminds me of "Comical Ali" durign the US-Iraq war
This quote is not by Einstein but by Schrodinger:
“I’m both for and against the two-state solution.”
Douglas Murray is a liar, That's all we need to know
@@sanyopoweraid1sure thing Abdul😂
😂
A person who stands for both sides stands for neither
They want the land for themselves, not a two-state solution. Water front property
Its Jewish land. Read a book.
@BannedMiloClips You mean Islamic theocracy? One state Democracy is a western fantasy
@BannedMiloClips Palestinians want to bring in millions of descendants of refugees from the 1948 war (a war started by Arabs). That would flood the land with Arabs hostile to Jews and Israel allowing them to win every election.
Whatsmore a majority of Palestinians support Hamas who want to destroy Israel and ethnic cleanse Jews from the land.
@BannedMiloClipshow about they go back to Jordan, Egypt etc where they migrated from
Well Israelis immigrated from Germany@@user-pe5qy1zw6y
11:11 I want to personally thank Mr. Barghouti for telling Douglas *YOU SHUTUPPP*. Could listen to it all day. And the look on Douglas's face too! LOL
He only told him to shut up when he couldn't take the truth
@@meeemeee432 No, he told him to shut up because *"THE ANCHOR"* wouldn't shut him up
Maybe you want to join his party and relocate to his country.
@@rudrendrakashyap-zg6do YOU SHUTUPPP
Would be nice if Douglas Murray reported from North of Gaza if his such an expert.
It's funny how when they were talking about giving Israel a state, no Palestinian was asked about it, now they're talking about giving Palestinians a state, but they want Israel to decide if they want to or not😂. CLown world😂
Both were offered such in 1947 by Un Partition Plan. Israel immediately said yes. Palestinians immediately said no.
No Palestinian was asked because there were no Palestinians yet... Only arabs, which were certainly asked, and refused, and started a war against the Jews, as they do a lot.
@@GD-rd6igso if I offer to give you the garage in your house, while I take over the rest of it would you say yes?
You are the clown for not even checking your own words.
In 1947 both people were offered a state.
between 1948 and 1967 "Palestine" was occupied by Jordan and Egypt - could have had a state.
At the 90s Oslo accords, 2002 camp david summit (they were given a state and everything they could have asked for).
Those states were not given solely by Israel, however, Israel had to be a side of the agreement, as Israelis lived in some of those areas. In 2005 Israel completely evacuated Gaza, and in 2023 Israel got hell from Gaza. This mistake will not happen again, and clowns like you can be clowns.
@@Wiggy321 If you purchased the house, yes. Jewish Agency PURCHASED private Ottoman and Arab land beginning in 1880s.
How do you negotiate with people who want you wiped off the map?
How do you trust people who already did wipe you off the map and your land and homes because of some bullshit divine right they believe they have
And which people would that be?
@@8aNda1d obviously israel because they are doing that right now.
@@8aNda1dIsrael of course. River to the Sea is in their charter. Even Nenyahu admitted that.
Arabs, Dude, are the problem.
Am Yisrael Chai@@8aNda1d
I am for once need to bring Bassem to debate with Murray honestly I think he can turn the debate against Douglas
Piers, most important is, do you condemn Hamas? 😂😂😂
By his words, he condemns Hamas.
It’s a good question, cope Abdul 😂
Armed resistance against occupation is legitimate under international law. His view that they are freedom fighters doesn't contradict international law and can argue wouldn't be categorised as terrorists.
So does defending one’s country..so stop weeping
You're correct they want to occupy and oppress palestinians and at the end they're the victim.. just imagine that these numbers killed are israelis wouldn't that make the western racists make a move.
@atharc77I'm no lawyer but I'm almost certain international law doesn't afford those engaged in 'armed resistance ' the right to deliberately murder, rape, torture and kidnap innocent civilians. Are you suggesting that that armies such as the IDF must obey strict rules of engagement but 'freedom fighters ' can do whatever the fuck they like ?
@@garethmorgan3665yes they must obey the international law
@@garethmorgan3665 The right to resist should be resisting the occupation i.e. combatants that includes IDF and armed civilians.
Harming any civilians including rape, torture, kidnapping etc of course would not be resistance!
Freedom fighter...you cannot understand this word unless you witnessed your family fight colonial power..
Never forget, Nelson Mandela was considered a terrorist and went on to getting a Nobel Peace prize.
The difference is that Nelson Mandela and the liberation did not commit sexual assault, did not kidnap, did not murder of civilians. Mandela strongly told the whole country and his own party that there will be no violence. Mandela told his party there will be no revenge no hate only reconciliation and forgiveness and sharing of the land. South Africa was the only country to achieve peace without war of any kind. This honorable leadership respect for the opposition was never and has never been seen again
"Most Zionists don't believe that God exists but they do believe he promised them PALESTINE "
- Ilan Pappe
Actually more then 80% of Israel population believes in god.
And also you can't deny that even without a god jews originated their society in this land.
Its simple archeology
Quoting the most unreliable self-hatred Jew calling himself a historian: he's a joke. Read Benny Morris; it will deradicalize your point of view.
Zionism is also supported in the Qur'an but it's followers conveniently forget this.
"And We said from after him to the Children (of) Israel, "Dwell (in) the land, then when comes (the) promise (of) the Hereafter, We will bring you (as) a mixed crowd (17.104)
There is such place as palestine' its stolen land called Israel
@@gil6875 they don't believe Jesus is God lol
There is no solution It's insane. This just didn't start last year
There is no solution because they don’t want a solution Israeli authority is now looking to expand into the north of Gaza. And saying that it will be Israeli land…..their defense of “we’re just trying to protect ourselves by fighting back” is fading very quickly
Stoping illegal occupation, deviation of the apartheid state ... The world did this before to South Africa.
until no two states - no solution. which is their interest.
Murray - check the Warsawa ghetto uprising - see the similarities?
Really though. It’s also crazy how everyone seems to be on one side or the other. In reality both sides are wrong and right at the same time. No clue what a solution even looks like or how this ends with both parties being ok with the outcome.
No new Govt in Israel now, after Oct 7 will be much different. This has totally changed the course!
It’s weird how these Apologists go on and on about how the Israelis withdrew from Gaza in 2006 conveniently Ignoring and failing to mention how the Israelis have had a land, sea and air blockade on Gaza ever since . And no “moderator/anchor” like Piers etc call them out over it.
Disgusting 🤢 lot
Why to mention the times they had it and had an airport and what they have done with it….
1. Gaza has a border with Egypt.Why didnt they open up their border? 2. Hamas charter calls for the destruction of Israel and murder of all Jews. You'de have to be insane NOT to do a blockade. 3. Actually before Oct 7 thoussnds of Gazans entered Israel every day to work on the farms on Kibbutzim. That's how Hamas knew exactly where the kindergartens, youth roons snd dining halls were. They had everything mapped out.
The blockade is because of Hamas, Einstein 🤦♂️
The blockade is to prevent Hamas from getting weapons from Iran 🤦♂️
It’s weird how Abdul’s conveniently forget that the blockade is to stop Hamas from getting stronger
why is this still called unsensored?
Why you still watch it and write comments? Because you are paid by muslims
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@kasraa9730
Because he even has terrorist Hamas supporters on the show to talk nonsense
"Based on the charter, the 1970 United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2625 explicitly endorsed a right to resist "subjection of peoples to alien subjugation, domination and exploitation".[32] Based on this, many scholars argue that the right to resist exists in customary international law where self-determination is at issue.[33
Does "the right to resist" include firing rockets at civilian areas? And firing bullets at civilians including babies and the elderly, or driving a car into civilians including children? Are there ANY limits to this right to resist?
@@sandytatham3592 "civilian" most of them were members of idf as in israel you have to serve the idf once you reach 18. It's a military state not a normal country.
@@Islamiccalling If you aren't actively serving in the military, you are a civilian, under international law. It doesn't make those civilians "legitimate targets of resistance" or any such mental somersaults that people are using to justify the deliberate targeting murder of Israeli civilians.
@@Islamiccalling : A soldier is a 'civilian' when he/she is not on active duty. And babies, children, the elderly, and disabled people? Are you calling them all 'soldiers in the military' because Israel is always on high alert due to the Islamic jihadist terror waves? It seems to me that you've been deeply indoctrinated...🙄
Dar Al-Harb, Dar Al-Islam
Highly respect you there Piers with the Ending and your veiws on how a two state solution or peace would be able between the Occupier and Occupants
No respect. He just tries to appease both sides to get more views but we know where his allegiance lies
"Yeah but"...😂. I once heard a wise person say, "everything after 'but' in nonsense."
Murray evades answering Bargouthi's question on whether Palestine land is or isn't occupied. He keeps repeating Israel's talking points. Replying to Murray's question about the PA "paying terrorists", Bargouthi said the PA sustains the families of Palestinian freedom fighters. On the source of the PA funds, contrary to Murray's assertion that they come from Israel, Bargouthi said 90% of them are taxes paid by Palestinians, which are now unlawfullt retained by Israel.
Watch more of his interviews, he talks about it a lot. He has to pick his points. Israel left Gaza in 2005, uprooting thousands of Jewish families who lived there. Then, the international community, including Israel, poured billions into the hope of Gaza being the next Singapore, a thriving international hub, like it once was, with it's gorgeous beaches. But Islamism won. They rejected the less radical (barely) Palestinian Authority, and voted in Hamas. Hamas murdered most of the Palestinian Authority, and then took all the money and built the underground infrastructure, and built (and smuggled) weapons. If you don't know this history, you will. Their charter is not limited to Israel, they intend to kill Jews worldwide, and they chant "Death to America" in the streets. Palestinians have been kicked out of every other Arab country for fomenting chaos, and that is why they have not one country willing to help them. Sure, Iran funds their terror, but they are not welcome there. And if you believe any statistics from Hamas, or any apologist, I have a bridge to nowhere in Alaska to sell you.
@@Ladyheartworku forgot the part about ethnic cleansing
Forcing Palestinians to concentrate within camps inside gaza
@@Ayfe431what even are you talking about? When did this happen? Wait, are you referring to the part where the idf warned the Gazans where the were going to bomb and asked them to leave immediately and move to safe zones? If so, and you're now twisting that somehow into some sick nazi comparison, you need to rethink your argument
@@Ayfe431 STOP FUCKING LYING! Look at videos of Gaza before Oct 7th... they had houses with swimming pools, BMWs, Mercedes-Benzs, hospitals with MRIs, etc... NOT what 'camps' are like. Also, Egypt has a border with Gaza nd didn't want the made-up 'Palestinian' terrorist either.
@@asch21289 I think this is the problem
U said so much, but hv no idea what I’m talking about
The ethnic cleansing took place long before October 2023. This is history u should really know before talking about this issue
Why do u think gaza has such a concentrated population.
Also not sure where I compared to nazis. I was very carful not to call camps in which ppl are concentrated “concentration camps”. Specifically to not hurt ppls feelings
But they are camps, and ppl were concentrated in them. Call them what u want
Hamas reject a two state solution. Hamas Leader confirmed this last week. Video clips of interview available via utube.
netanyahu also just said he rejects a two state solution. both are just as bad as eachother.
Indeed
Terrifying
Because israel does not have a right to exist
Well, good for them. They should not accept crumbs left over from Historic Palestine. Palestinians are entitled to nothing less than full access and full equality in their land, all of their land before the creation of that depraved entity known as Israel. Israel will have to be renamed, and abolish the apartheid system that gives unique privileges to Jews only. Then, actual democracy will exist and it won’t matter whether someone is Jewish, Christian, Muslim or Atheist.
new update, the casualtie numbers were indeed incorrect
IMorgan is saying he doesn’t have record how he is anchoring😁😁he has record of others 😃😃
Anyone suggesting a 2 state solution is living in 1980, and has no idea what is going on.
Anyone who thinks Palestinians don’t deserve a state of their own is a total bigot and idiot.
What do you do with the 7 million Palestinians?
Throw them in the sea?
Have one state?
Great.
Hard for it to be a Jewish state then, as more than half of the population won’t be Jewish.
That’s why Israel is engaging in genocide and ethnic cleansing.
And that’s why Palestinians resist.
You’re right. We need a one state solution under Palestinian rule. And the Israelis should go back to Europe and the US!
exactly!
and then what is your solution for this conflict ? Deport all Palestinian from Gaza to sinai desert ?
You're right. We should get back to 48, so we only have one peaceful country called Palestine
There are clearly issues on the palestinian side as well that need to be addressed.
issues with the Palestinian side???? nooo there is none , they went to a festival of house music killed 200 people and ...but ho they are so nice people and poor people living in a prison bla bla
@@SAMWELLFPS+ oct 7. Is Putin birthday
Congrats Putin 🎉
@@SAMWELLFPS As far as the media reports..it was Hamas that killed those civilians......but ofcourse all palestinians are expected to pay the price for the few......not very fair i think....but back to my point....they need to work on their issues as well...
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
That witticism-I’ll call it “Einstein Insanity”-is usually attributed to Albert Einstein. Though the Matthew effect may be operating here, it is undeniably the sort of clever, memorable one-liner that Einstein often tossed off. And I’m happy to give him the credit, because doing so takes us in interesting directions.
Douglas Murray bringing documents and reading articles but won’t read the genocide convention and confront reality..
The truth is that your not face reality and it’s your father and mother fault for not educating you
There is no genocide happening 🙄
“Never underestimate Joe Biden’s ability to F things up.” -HIS BOSS
lol, troll
If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.
- Joe Biden
Lucifer? Are you Biden's boss Lucifer?
I can't believe it.. even though he lost his young wife and year old daughter in a car accident, he still can't feel how people in Gaza are feeling who their loved ones are deliberately killed by bombs, not by car accident..
I have more respect for Dr. Barghouti than most other Palestinian officials, but there is no doubt in my mind, that Hamas will do to him and the PA what they did to Fatah in the early 2000’s, given the chance. The minute the PA hands power over to Hamas or attempts to “co-govern” with them, as formerly suggested, their lives will be in danger, and Israel will have even a bigger problem. Hamas has to go, there’s no other solution.
Exactly correct they have a culture of death and celebrate it in pursuit of Martyrdom and Paradise which is the most nobel pursuit in their culture. They have zero problem sacrificing their own kids to attain martyrdom for them.
why did Israel give them money then
Obviously you haven't heard the news. Israel has been found GUILTY OF GENOCIDE in the International Court of Justice.Over its barbaric behaviour in Gaza. Which means the USA is Complicient in this heinous crime !!!
@@serjthereturn because Israel wants peace. The other side doesn't don't expect Israel to stop now.
I agree with you. Every moderate palastinian leader who wants peace, have a risk to his life by his own people