Hey first time watcher. I'm hoping to purchase a Sea-Doo 230 some time soon. I was told that sea doo has an open-loop system. By reading, I see that this is not true. I appreciate how you get to the point, you know what your talking about. A lot of people try to teach, but they end up babbling with too many stories. Could you talk about the "Rotax" engine-the best way to take care of them, a head's-up on what's done to the engine for maintenance in term of hours so you don't get suckered. And finally, what to look out for when buying a used sea-doo boat. Hope it's not too much. Thanks good job!
Know of a couple of guys who had seadoo and sold them after having temperature issues. Closed loop not with out it's problems. I think if Yamaha and Kawasaki haven't done it yet it's probably for a reason. Seado seems to be quick to come out with new things but they don't always seem well executed.
I am hearing Seadoo is sending affected idf stalled owners with a new part ? Can you please elaborate on this updated idf component please .. pros and cons !
Hey Kevin HRU need some info from you pulled my 19 gp out while checking out how I’m going to install gen 2 plate and grate I noticed I have couple little nicks on my bottom what can I put on these spots to combat the hull delamanation issues that can occur thanks in advance
No problem! First, depending on how deep these nicks are, you're going to want repair them using Color Rite's repair kit (they're the only paint outlet officially licensed with Yamaha). Then, I suggest having the hull coated in a thicker coat of automotive clear blended with a flex additive. (You can even paint over the billboard decals if you want.)
I understand I am the definite minority in this situation, but I use my Seadoo for flyboarding and closed loop is not keeping it cool. (Which led me here in my research on switching over) I used to use Kawasaki (in fresh water) and never had heating problems with them. I thought it was a bit funny when he said “ if it were possible to touch the ride plate while it’s operating…” in my situation I actually can reach underneath and touch the ride plate. It’s pretty freaking hot.
The close loop system is fragile at best. The smallest leak, which often occurs due to poor quality plastic fittings can cause seadoo head-gaskets to fail rapidly. This is why seadoo head-gaskets sell like hot cakes. The open loop system works and has done since the introduction of marine engines. Open loop is more effective at cooling and rarely sees any issues arise when maintained correctly (regular flushes). Moral of the story, if you want a reliable seadoo then yes an open loop system is the way to go and no it will not degrade the cooling passages when flushed correctly as sacrificial anodes are used in the open loop conversion kits.
Nonsense, closed loop is far superior to open loop your main argument against is lack of maintenance. The majority of yachts and inboard power boats are closed loop, there’s a reason for that.
Mustang is correct. Plain distilled water has far better thermal conductivity than coolant. Coolant is used for raising boiling points and lowering freezing point and for providing corrosion resistance.
Hey first time watcher. I'm hoping to purchase a Sea-Doo 230 some time soon. I was told that sea doo has an open-loop system. By reading, I see that this is not true.
I appreciate how you get to the point, you know what your talking about. A lot of people try to teach, but they end up babbling with too many stories. Could you talk about the "Rotax" engine-the best way to take care of them, a head's-up on what's done to the engine for maintenance in term of hours so you don't get suckered. And finally, what to look out for when buying a used sea-doo boat. Hope it's not too much.
Thanks good job!
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@@watercraftjournal Thanks!
It has both. Sea doo have a closed loop cooling system for the engine, and an open loop cooling system for the exhaust manifold.
Know of a couple of guys who had seadoo and sold them after having temperature issues. Closed loop not with out it's problems. I think if Yamaha and Kawasaki haven't done it yet it's probably for a reason. Seado seems to be quick to come out with new things but they don't always seem well executed.
It's typically related to the sacrificial anode, not the closed loop system.
@@watercraftjournal these were new skis so who knows in this situation but the problems I've seen with seadoo outs me off them.
Couple guys, doubt it unless they park on a sandbar, the exhaust is raw water cooled, that's your issue.
You slipped up bro at the end kawi and yamee not kawi and seapoo.... 😂 Great video bro.
My bad!
@@watercraftjournal 🤣🤣 just busting ya balls Kevin! 😝 I never get to correct people much I'm usually the corrected.
I love your video
Do you like the closed loop system? I'm heading to get my first jet ski now, a 2013 seadoo wake 155
It works.
I am hearing Seadoo is sending affected idf stalled owners with a new part ? Can you please elaborate on this updated idf component please .. pros and cons !
Please see Kevin's video detailing everything going on with Sea-Doo's IDF.
Hey Kevin HRU need some info from you pulled my 19 gp out while checking out how I’m going to install gen 2 plate and grate I noticed I have couple little nicks on my bottom what can I put on these spots to combat the hull delamanation issues that can occur thanks in advance
No problem! First, depending on how deep these nicks are, you're going to want repair them using Color Rite's repair kit (they're the only paint outlet officially licensed with Yamaha). Then, I suggest having the hull coated in a thicker coat of automotive clear blended with a flex additive. (You can even paint over the billboard decals if you want.)
@@watercraftjournal the damage is very minor my ski never touches the ground I thought I heard you mention nail polish before ??? GEL-NAIL
Yes, but definitely NOT for the hull! We used nail polish for very minor touch ups on the hood and fairings.
I understand I am the definite minority in this situation, but I use my Seadoo for flyboarding and closed loop is not keeping it cool. (Which led me here in my research on switching over) I used to use Kawasaki (in fresh water) and never had heating problems with them.
I thought it was a bit funny when he said “ if it were possible to touch the ride plate while it’s operating…” in my situation I actually can reach underneath and touch the ride plate. It’s pretty freaking hot.
The close loop system is fragile at best. The smallest leak, which often occurs due to poor quality plastic fittings can cause seadoo head-gaskets to fail rapidly. This is why seadoo head-gaskets sell like hot cakes.
The open loop system works and has done since the introduction of marine engines. Open loop is more effective at cooling and rarely sees any issues arise when maintained correctly (regular flushes).
Moral of the story, if you want a reliable seadoo then yes an open loop system is the way to go and no it will not degrade the cooling passages when flushed correctly as sacrificial anodes are used in the open loop conversion kits.
Nonsense, closed loop is far superior to open loop your main argument against is lack of maintenance.
The majority of yachts and inboard power boats are closed loop, there’s a reason for that.
450hrs. on my Seadoo ,no problems all , and I race it about 4 times a year when I'm not just riding.
So my question is do Yamaha and kawi have thermostats
Yes they do. Yamaha's are set at 52º C (or 124º F). In fact, RIVA has a thermostat delete kit!
Oil temp stat on 300X is crazy high, synthetic oil is a must
It's antifreeze so you avoid that problem
Water cools better than coolant.. so maybe see doo will develop a better coolant to run in the sealed system.
Or a better heat exchanger
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Lol water cools better than coolant? Thats news to me. Ill just go fill my coolant reservoir with nice cool and crisp sea water! Thanks sir
Mustang is correct. Plain distilled water has far better thermal conductivity than coolant. Coolant is used for raising boiling points and lowering freezing point and for providing corrosion resistance.