I agree with you 100%. Two reasons to go 38 is 1. A heavy rider. 2.Your a Beast rider on the mountain. As for me at 165#, am happy with 36 on RaceFace 30off-set Wheels.
@@brandonandrews5603 Maybe you're right, but you could say that 200+ could be considerred a heavy bench...that covers 200-299... I can't bench 299... haha jk man :)
Alec Stanley you need more protein good sir. Lifting is very much personal- in relation to your weight. 50kg guy lifting 100kg is impressive. It depends on how hard you ride and what you ride
I'm 210-215 (depends on how many BBQs I've been to that week) and I rode a 32 until 2014, then a 34 until this year. I've lived in the Rockies, and North Vancouver in that time. I just got on a 36 (Capra Pro Race), and while I feel the difference, I haven't felt under forked since the 32, in the slightest. I'm not sure I'd switch to a 38... Feels too close to the 40 I run on the DH... but who knows, maybe some day. Great review.
My 38 is showing up today. I’m 6’1 and 240lbs and ride pretty aggressive. I have the 36 on two of my bikes and have been pretty happy but I’m excited to go to the 38 and see the difference. Thanks for the great content!
@@Tr_Fast Lol, Not yet but it’s been a significant improvement over the 36. I really like the stiffness and the way I can push it into the corners. I put my old 36 on my sons bike so he got an upgrade too. Good times!
Sweet video dude!!!! .... as an even larger rider than yourself, it's nice seeing product feedback from someone who isn't any heavier that a piece of A4 paper for once, as not all of us fit small to medium frames with 25PSI in out shocks or forks! (think I might subscribe!!)
I wanted this fork so badly at 6'8" 270lbs, but my fuel ex 8 came with 130mm and I thought the jump to a 150 air shaft would've been too much geo change. I went with a 140mm 36. When they make a 140 air shaft for that 38, I'll get one. Your video is awesome.
Thanks man! The 36 at 140 is perfect for that bike and still beastly! Hopefully next year we’ll see that 38 go to some lower travels for us big guys though. 🤞
That was a fantastic review mate! Cheers bro,u got another subscriber thanks very! Just ordered a Capra Shred with 38’s on it. I’m not as heavy as u but set up accordingly! 👊🏻👍🏻
Need to balance that gimbal a touch. Might want to consider changing to 4:3 ratio with no stabilzation on the GoPro if you are going to run a chest gimbal too. It will give you more options when editing. Great Video man 🤙
about to upgrade my 2015 trek slash 8 from a 2016 fox 36 factory to the new 38 factory. i went to a bike shop just to press on the fork a bit and the difference between my 2016 36 and the 38 is unreal. my current fork is awesome and has handled everything i throw at it, more or less, but on big jumps it feels like jumping into a pool of water. theres a ton of stiction at the very top of the stroke and then there's very little support throughout the rest of the stroke once you break thru that initial bite. the 38 had literally 0 stiction and i could compress it with one arm but it still felt like it had a ton of support
Just stumbled upon your channel and just wanna say man you can shred! Definitely subscribing to the channel bro! I just ordered a new 21 Fox 36 for my 150mm travel bike. I’m coming from a Pike and hope I’ll see a big jump in performance. In lighter than you at 180 so hopefully the 36 will be stiff enough. I hope the new 36 feels as good as the 38 does
Hey thanks dude! I really appreciate the support. You’ll love that 36. I’m tellin ya, the grip2 is killer. Especially with some volume reducers in there. You can’t go wrong. 🤘
Great video! I liked that this wasn't a super "techy" review and displayed your riding style well. You and I are very similar in riding style and "physiology" so this and the RockShox ZEB are on my future list! I'm currently running the RockShox Lyrik on my Remedy 9.8 and I've loved it so far. Hit me up if you're ever in Utah and I'd be happy to show you some of my favorite places to ride!
Hey,hows ur remedy feeling?I'm currently looking to upgrade my bike and am looking at the Remedy and Slash,also a Canyon Strive.Which would yoy pick for heavy enduro racing?Any feedback is appreciated😁😁
Great video! Subscribed! I was looking for an honest review, not the press release reviews from a few months ago. Your feedback definitely has me leaning towards this as an upgrade for my Specialized Enduro. Can you maybe do a review on your Super Deluxe Coil at some point?
I think even if a rider is less than 200lbs, the stiffness and low flex would be a big improvement over really technical terrain. This fork is so beefy, it's a game-changer for those really fast, technical trails where picking a line is more important than just horsing through chunder.
Bro.. you should get some props for this vid! Making me want one just by talking about how it felt thru the flat corners! Hahah but seriously looks soo darn good & composed.. ~My current fox 36 developed some serious clicking in the steer tube of the fork.. sent it back and they changed the uppers for me.. but only a week or two later and I’m getting that old familiar click here and there in the headset of the fork steer tube.. might need to send it back a 2nd time if this is really happening again, anywho maybe I’ll have to see about a new 36 or 38 as I’m going to be putting the Cascade link on my Megatower & a 170 fork May pair well with the added rear travel. Let me know your thoughts, loved this vid 🤘🏼
Thanks bro! Ah man the 38 would we a rad combo to go with that cascade link! Hopefully you get that issue figured out. I’m sure you checked, but is the crown race on your fork warped or cracked? That could also cause some clicking. Either way, hope you get it resolved without spending too much coin.
Hey man nice review and smooth riding! I just ordered the same fork for my wreckoning and ya, was hard to find!! I’m about your size so was happy to see a review addressing the rider vs fork spec. I’d love to chat about setup
I love how we basically have the same bike(other than the coil shock, and bar) so any upgrades you put on give me a good sense of whats good...im right at 200 pounds and ive been eyeing this fork. Definitely going on my list once I finish upgrading my DJ and 29er ht! We definitely have similar styles as well, like side hits but also aggressively charging through rock gardens! Thanks for the work put into this video! Almost forgot how did the change in head tube angle and BB height feel going to a longer fork? Specifically climbing?
Nice dude! The Megatower is so rad. I didn’t really notice any difference through out the frame geo. My first pedal on it, I noticed a bit of a height difference up front but I that faded quick. Definitely not on the decent. I also did keep the same offset. I hope that helps 🤙
Sweet man looks rad! Great work on intro vid of bike, very stylie. Color looks nice with your bike, not usually a fan of lighter color forks but it looks good. I’m a bigger dude and I’m very interested in sizing up. Did you notice a difference in weight?
Thanks dude! Tried to do something a bit different this time. At first I wasn’t totally sold on the color, but now I love it. As for the weight, not at all! I’m not crazy about weight change, within reason, but I didn’t notice it at all.
Always wondered why almost all the pro enduro and DH riders used fox and had either 36’s or 40’s and not the RockShox lyrik or boxxer. Then I tried out a fox...
Wow, great riding! 🚵♂ The colorway of that Fox 38 fork is absolutely stunning! 😍 Thinking of getting one myself to upgrade from my trusty Lyrik. How do you have your Fox 38 set up? Would love to know your settings for rebound, compression, and air pressure. Keep shredding! 🤘
38 Looks amazing and great video dude! Can I ask what wheelset you're running and what tyre pressures you go with. Looks like you're a similar size rider to myself
Thanks bro! I appreciate that. I do have a video on my wheel set up and the reason why I run them, so consider checking that out. I run 29psi typically but if I have Cush core in, I can confidently run lower. Double down Maxxis casings front and rear.
Nice video and good comparison. From what you described, I got the impression the 38 feels closer to a 40 than a 36. Not sure if you have ridden a 40 but it I would be interested in your opinion.
Almost switched my Decoy pro race pre order over to the Decoy Shred pre order simply because it had the newest fork. Glad I didn't if it's only an upgrade for larger riders
That trail looks rad! Great video and review. What kind of rear shocks are you running? I’m looking to upgrade to a 38 myself but wondering if I should upgrade rear as well. I currently have a Fox 36 and Fox float DPS and I’m really happy with it. But I’m thinking the bigger the better? Fox float X or X2? 🤙
For your size and the bigger 29er, you can shred it fast. From the video, I felt like you gonna always wash out on that dry sand but you're not. The Minion is awesome too.
Ahh, Nice. Lots of new riders up there this year. I used to live in Meyers. Just had fun up there last week, but saw so many people even up near Armstrong pass. Have fun, nice video!
Im 249lbs 5"6 tall, whats your tyre pressure at this kind of trail? Planning to get 36 but since i watched this vid gonna get that 38 ahahaa,nice video review.keep it up.
Thanks homie! I typically run 29psi with double down casings. Same for on that trail too. I would probably run it a bit lower if I had Cush Core in though.
I'm 235lbs on a good day. I'll be looking at 38s for the future...this video provided SUUUUCH GOOD RIDING!!!! Refreshing! Now lets get ourselves a strict diet! :P 🤣
Great review bud! I have a 2019 Kona Process 153 CR/DL with the Lyrik fork 160mm travel and it does great for my weight at 260lbs. With that said I will make sure my next bike has these forks for sure unless something better and more beefy comes out and de throws this one! BE SAFE OUT THERE
Thanks for your review! How does it feel off the top? Is it fairly plush in small but tooth shaking chunder? My trails have some consistent half foot to 2 foot hits but there's also a bunch of rock gardens you can just roll/plow thru. I guess very similar to the section you did on your local trail here!
The top of the stoke has a ton of small bump compliance. I would say that’s is the softest part of the stroke. Then it has good ramp moving through the rest of the travel. Definitely the best I’ve ridden by far through the chunder and jank. Really grippy on the roots too. I hope that helps.
Nice video super ride mate congrats new sub. I have 29 er yt capra with a rc2 cartridges fox 36 with 170mm travel. Im pretty big 220 lbs and i wanna buy fox 38, but the rs r made the zeb for much lower price so i dont know what do you think?
Thanks dude! I can’t say anything against the Zebb sense I haven’t ridden it but I’m sure it’s also a great unit. I would imagine, the Fox is a bit more progressive if you really get down to the nitty gritty but that’s just my guess. Upgrading to the Grip2 damper alone is a huge upgrade. You couldn’t go wrong investing into a 38 or a Zebb.
Great review of the 38! I'm considering an upgraded fork on my Bronson, leaning toward the 36 to gain responsiveness and enjoy a good weight savings over my stock Yari, but with the awesome things I'm hearing about the 38 that comes in at about the same weight I'm thinking it is a possibility. Just under 200lb rider with gear, occasional enduro race in the Tx hill country. Given your experience with the bronson what do you think?
Thanks, Brian! I appreciate that dude. I think you would definitely be stoked on the 36 coming from the yari. Obviously a whole lot more to offer. Now for the decision between the 36 and the 38, I haven’t thought about a 38 on a Bronson... but I like the idea! The 38 at 160 would be so much fun and a total weapon. Sense you’re already making the investment, I would probably go 38, but if you’re wanting to stay at 150 up front, then just go 36. Grip2 36 is going to be sick also. As for the weight difference, in my opinion you’re not going to notice that much. It’s 100% worth the strength. I hope that helps!
Thanks man! Not at all.. I’m not very critical on weight if it provides the performance in return though. If anything I noticed the geo change a bit from the bump to 170, but that faded quickly.
Awesome review man, thank you! If I'm 165 lbs, should I stick with the Fox 36 factory? (since I don't wanna spend $1,000 plus for an upgrade that might not be a huge advantage for my weight range). Thanks again!
Super jealous you’re in Tahoe. I miss living there and having access to all the great trails. I’m debating between a slightly used 2021 Ibis Ripmo w/factory 36 vs a new one I have in order coming with factory 38. Not sure if I’m better off with the 36 vs 38 as I am 5’10” 185lbs and don’t ride as aggressive based on your ride in this video. My trails are similar to yours but with much more exposed tree roots and tree dense trails here in the Smokey mtns. My comfort level of drops is 4ft. and under. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Great video pal!! I have a yeti 2020 sb140 and wanted to do the 38 and I’m new to this but I’m confused with the height or leverage? Will it change my angle of the bike or angle ? I’ll be using the bike for all mountain and a few climbs and peddling 🤷♂️😫 I’m 190 pounds .
If you raise the travel in the front, it will cause the seat tube angle to be typically a degree slacker. Which will result is the seating position while pedaling to not be as optimal. But, in my opinion, the benefits from the bigger fork are worth the sacrifice! I hope that helps 🤙
What are the disadvantage of the 38 over the 36? Weight and expense? I have an eMTB with a 36 (Grip) and I weigh 210lbs. For most of my riding it feels more than capable but certain trails in Queenstown push it to the limit and it bottoms out. I'm considering upgrading to a Grip2 or getting a 38.
Thanks dude! I appreciate that. I run 123psi. Rebound: HSR - 2 clicks from closed LSR - 1 click from closed Compression: HSC - 4 clicks from open LSC - 9 clicks from open With 3 volume reducers
@@loamtroopers thats very close to the basesetup from the fox tuning guide. My pistachio fork needs a bit more rebound :) But its a sick fork, I tell ya. My mind was blown away by the performance in the rough stuff.
@@loamtroopers So Im running a 100 psi with like 88-90 kilo (198lbs) bike gear ready. Since I am not using full travel I went down 1 click LSC and 2 clicks HSC
I am 5’10 athletic 185lbs in my 40’s. Debating between a slightly used 2020 Ibis Ripmo w/Fox 36 or keeping my current order that comes w/Fox38. Going the used route will save me $1500. Not sure if I need the fox 38 for my style of riding, can you help? I can ride pretty much any bike park trail, just not ripping down them and catching big air like the more advanced riders or carving up turns(not yet). I prefer picking my lines but have fun hitting drops up to 4’ on occasion and really enjoy the longer 10+mi switchback trails in the smokies. As much as I try to pick my lines, I am generally crashing through endless rocks and roots.
Dude that was great riding and a really good honest review. How much pressure did you end up running?. like my forks to run on the plusher side and I find fox’s recommended setting to be extremely stiff (I weight around 220 lbs kitted). Curious to hear what you baseline was on the 36 vs the 38. Cheers man!
Thanks bro! I appreciate that feedback. I’m really stoked on these settings. 123 PSI and 3 volume reducers. HSR - 4 clicks from closed LSR - 1 click from closed HSC - 4 clicks from open LSC - 9 clicks from open I’m very aggressive with my suspension though, so this is plush for myself but may feel a bit too responsive for some. I would run my 36 always at max psi, all volume reducers, and fairly closed. I think this fork has a lot more fine tuning then previous 36 models. You would probably want to dial these settings back to get a more plush ride.
Loam Troopers MTB thanks for the reply and settings!. Shit you ride that thing hard (that’s is what she said) haha. I had my 36 at 75 PSI and 1 token. I am a lousy jumper so that is probably why I get away with such low pressure. Thanks again for sharing your settings!
What are your settings? I’m 6’1 240 and yeah we are not the majority 😂. How many volume spacers and clicks out you run? I’m probably putting a 38 on my mega tower this week
Hey Sebastien. Yeah I definitely get some slouching if I fill it up. Typically a body, two lenses, and a gorilla pod does it. At first it really bothered me but I got pretty used to it. Best option I’ve found for sure.
Hey Dylan, I'm in the market for a full suspension mtb. Really like the Santa Cruz lineup and narrowed it down to a Megatower, Hightower, and Nomad. I'm a bigger guy like you as well. Former football player. 6'2" 275-285. I'm a subscriber as well and plan on riding as aggressive as you. Any suggestions? Ornan
Hey Ornan. I for that type of riding I would recommend a Megatower for sure. The Hightower is also a great option if you plan on also riding more XC or not as aggressive of terrain. But if you’re looking for the reliable, do it all bike, I recommend a Megatower. The Nomad is also a great bike, but I’m sold on the 29r wheels. I hope that helps!
@@loamtroopers Hey Dylan, this helps a lot. I like the nomad because the fork has more travel but I just watched your video on that new Fox 38 shock you got for your Megatower. Also I've seen them on sale for $3400. Megatower is kinda out of my price range but might just have to bite the bullet. Do you know if 29inch wheels will fit on the Nomad?
@@Ornan91 nomad is 27.5 only but really isnt a big deal im a light guy only 180 pounds but im 6'6 and i ride an xl nomad for everything. Trail, bike park, on road, everything with the nomad
@@stevenjam7119 Jesus 6'6" 180! Go eat a steak man lol. Im 280 and the same height on a xxl megatower, I would love to be at the 230 mark! You're lucky!
In the vid the old fork looks like fox 36 performance with the FIT damper (unless you upgraded the cartridge). How much of this is a comparison between the FIT and GRIP dampers?
Good eye Eric! So the model on my Megatower was with a Fit4. My last fork had a Grip2 damper. I’m familiar with the difference between the two dampers. This review is more about the structure. While that aids the performance of the Grip2, in my opinion. Although, the shim stack is this fork creates a very unique feel compared to the 36’s Grip2. Just bro science though. 🤷♂️ 🤘
Im trying to save up for this because my current lyrik creaks and pops underneath my weight (110kg) and it doesn't feel stiff and I feel like I'm going to crack my steerer tube or something
Curious to know your settings. I've just got my 170mm 38 and my hands were beaten badly after the first run! I was using the suggested settings for my 125kg weight (275ish lb) and have changed the pressure anywhere between 140PSI and 90PSI. Appreciate any tips!
im about your size id guess, what wheels do you like and also rear shock. i plan to get a fox 38 and wheels and a shock to work with my size and ability
I love my Santa Cruz Reserve rims laced to I9 hydra hubs. As for the rear shock, I’m running the Rockshox super deluxe ultimate coil and it works well with the megatower.
The ending hahah 😂
Little banger for the ending 😂
@@loamtroopers well. it made me subscribe :3
thats actually such a good deal, pay over 1000$ for a box and get a set of forks for free
Exactly. You really can’t go wrong.
Loam Troopers MTB can you please tell me where this is
U lucky b*tch. I paid $1000 for my 38 manual
As a frequent pistachio buyer, $1000 for a 38 box filled with actual pistachios seems like a pretty good deal.
So hard to believe but seems so true 🤔😂
I agree with you 100%. Two reasons to go 38 is 1. A heavy rider. 2.Your a Beast rider on the mountain. As for me at 165#, am happy with 36 on RaceFace 30off-set Wheels.
I think my friend describes it best: "it's designed for Richy Rude the guy that weighs 200+ pounds and can bench 200+ pounds.
Haha for sure!
200lb isn’t a heavy bench.
@@brandonandrews5603 Maybe you're right, but you could say that 200+ could be considerred a heavy bench...that covers 200-299... I can't bench 299... haha jk man :)
Alec Stanley you need more protein good sir. Lifting is very much personal- in relation to your weight. 50kg guy lifting 100kg is impressive. It depends on how hard you ride and what you ride
Been waiting for a great review for a 38 with a heavier rider! Cant wait for my new fork to arrive, I'm stoked!
Thanks dude! I appreciate that. You’ll definitely enjoy it 🤘🤘
I'm 210-215 (depends on how many BBQs I've been to that week) and I rode a 32 until 2014, then a 34 until this year. I've lived in the Rockies, and North Vancouver in that time. I just got on a 36 (Capra Pro Race), and while I feel the difference, I haven't felt under forked since the 32, in the slightest. I'm not sure I'd switch to a 38... Feels too close to the 40 I run on the DH... but who knows, maybe some day. Great review.
Thanks dude! 🤘
Ordered my 38 factory today. I'm so excited. Great video nice riding
Thank you! Much appreciated. Enjoy that 38! 🤘
Being 6’3 235 rocking the Lyric on my Megatower
iv been real curious about this 38. Great review as always.
Thanks dude! You’d dig it for sure 🤙
My 38 is showing up today. I’m 6’1 and 240lbs and ride pretty aggressive. I have the 36 on two of my bikes and have been pretty happy but I’m excited to go to the 38 and see the difference. Thanks for the great content!
Did it blow up yet?
@@Tr_Fast Lol, Not yet but it’s been a significant improvement over the 36. I really like the stiffness and the way I can push it into the corners. I put my old 36 on my sons bike so he got an upgrade too. Good times!
Megatower is looking factory! Looks like I'll have to watch out for you catching me in the rock gardens now ;-)
She’s getting there! Might have to it give it a lil more joooose next time 😎
I bet it climbs like a Honda Civic. Looks like it mobs downhill. Corral is the perfect trail for that fork 🚀
Haha between me and that bike. Definitely a Honda Civic. But whatever it takes to get to the downhill right? 🤷♂️ 🤘
Nice review man. Unbiased and no bullshit. I’m a bigger guy as well so looks like I’m buying some 38’s
Thanks homie! 🤘 I try to keep it as real as possible because those upgrades aren’t cheap.
Sweet video dude!!!! .... as an even larger rider than yourself, it's nice seeing product feedback from someone who isn't any heavier that a piece of A4 paper for once, as not all of us fit small to medium frames with 25PSI in out shocks or forks! (think I might subscribe!!)
Thanks man! I appreciate that 👊
@@loamtroopers No worries, 'fair comment where fair comment was due' I say!
Subscribed also! ;)
I wanted this fork so badly at 6'8" 270lbs, but my fuel ex 8 came with 130mm and I thought the jump to a 150 air shaft would've been too much geo change. I went with a 140mm 36. When they make a 140 air shaft for that 38, I'll get one. Your video is awesome.
Thanks man! The 36 at 140 is perfect for that bike and still beastly! Hopefully next year we’ll see that 38 go to some lower travels for us big guys though. 🤞
Yeah bud! That new fork looks so clean. Now let's go ride!
We need to ASAP!
That was a fantastic review mate!
Cheers bro,u got another subscriber thanks very!
Just ordered a Capra Shred with 38’s on it. I’m not as heavy as u but set up accordingly! 👊🏻👍🏻
Thanks dude! I really appreciate the support🤘
that’ll be a dope rig! Enjoy it!
Well done! New to the channel... you're obviously a skilled rider so I trust your review.
Thanks Bryan! I appreciate that.
And welcome! 🤘
Need to balance that gimbal a touch. Might want to consider changing to 4:3 ratio with no stabilzation on the GoPro if you are going to run a chest gimbal too. It will give you more options when editing. Great Video man 🤙
Thanks for the feedback! I’ll work on it 🤘
Nice review! And you were FLYING down that trail. Props man!
Thanks man! I was trying to put that thing to the test! 🤙
you had too wait 2 weeks! lol I'm still waiting for mine. Which I ordered in May hahaha. sick video
Ah man I would have gone insane! I hope it makes it that much more sweet!
Thanks a ton 🤘🤘
Man, this fork is full otta brain but a Megatower?! Com on!!
about to upgrade my 2015 trek slash 8 from a 2016 fox 36 factory to the new 38 factory. i went to a bike shop just to press on the fork a bit and the difference between my 2016 36 and the 38 is unreal. my current fork is awesome and has handled everything i throw at it, more or less, but on big jumps it feels like jumping into a pool of water. theres a ton of stiction at the very top of the stroke and then there's very little support throughout the rest of the stroke once you break thru that initial bite. the 38 had literally 0 stiction and i could compress it with one arm but it still felt like it had a ton of support
Nice! I’m glad to hear it was a solid choice for you also.
Just stumbled upon your channel and just wanna say man you can shred! Definitely subscribing to the channel bro! I just ordered a new 21 Fox 36 for my 150mm travel bike. I’m coming from a Pike and hope I’ll see a big jump in performance. In lighter than you at 180 so hopefully the 36 will be stiff enough. I hope the new 36 feels as good as the 38 does
Hey thanks dude! I really appreciate the support. You’ll love that 36. I’m tellin ya, the grip2 is killer. Especially with some volume reducers in there. You can’t go wrong. 🤘
You shred so hard!! Sick bike skills man!! I also love your editing!!!
Thanks bro! I appreciate that! 🤙
Great video! I liked that this wasn't a super "techy" review and displayed your riding style well. You and I are very similar in riding style and "physiology" so this and the RockShox ZEB are on my future list! I'm currently running the RockShox Lyrik on my Remedy 9.8 and I've loved it so far. Hit me up if you're ever in Utah and I'd be happy to show you some of my favorite places to ride!
Thanks dude! I’m glad you enjoyed it. I definitely will if I find myself up that way. Which I hope to soon!
Hey,hows ur remedy feeling?I'm currently looking to upgrade my bike and am looking at the Remedy and Slash,also a Canyon Strive.Which would yoy pick for heavy enduro racing?Any feedback is appreciated😁😁
Great video! Subscribed!
I was looking for an honest review, not the press release reviews from a few months ago. Your feedback definitely has me leaning towards this as an upgrade for my Specialized Enduro.
Can you maybe do a review on your Super Deluxe Coil at some point?
Thanks dude! I really appreciate that. I more than likely will have a review on the coil this year 🤘
I am your 1000th subscriber!!
Thanks for the support! I really appreciate it!! 🤘🤘
I think even if a rider is less than 200lbs, the stiffness and low flex would be a big improvement over really technical terrain. This fork is so beefy, it's a game-changer for those really fast, technical trails where picking a line is more important than just horsing through chunder.
Well said 🤘
Bro.. you should get some props for this vid! Making me want one just by talking about how it felt thru the flat corners! Hahah but seriously looks soo darn good & composed..
~My current fox 36 developed some serious clicking in the steer tube of the fork.. sent it back and they changed the uppers for me.. but only a week or two later and I’m getting that old familiar click here and there in the headset of the fork steer tube.. might need to send it back a 2nd time if this is really happening again, anywho maybe I’ll have to see about a new 36 or 38 as I’m going to be putting the Cascade link on my Megatower & a 170 fork May pair well with the added rear travel.
Let me know your thoughts, loved this vid 🤘🏼
Thanks bro! Ah man the 38 would we a rad combo to go with that cascade link! Hopefully you get that issue figured out. I’m sure you checked, but is the crown race on your fork warped or cracked? That could also cause some clicking. Either way, hope you get it resolved without spending too much coin.
Nose bonk into the trail earned my subscription, from one bmxer to another.... keep shredding 🤘🏽🤘🏽
Haha! Thanks homie! I appreciate the support. 🤙
As a dude who weighs 230 lbs I'm subscribing! Cool to see the perspective of a bigger rider, and a damn good one at that!
Thanks dude! I always felt that way growing up and knew I couldn’t be the only big guy out there riding.
like the video. you are flying out there!!!
Thanks! Had to put it to the test!
Dude you deserve more subs, your videos are so good!
Hey thanks dude! I really appreciate that! 🤘
how did I not know about you guys, I live in north lake and have been searching for a fellow local UA-camr for a while 😂
Let’s link up sometime. 🤘
@@loamtroopers that would be sick! just followed you on insta so shoot me a dm next time you're up here!
Cher’s dude I’m gonna buy the Capra shred after seeing this. Thanks there will be vids to come on my channel.
Right on man! Hope you enjoy it 🤘
Great to see this channel growing. It’s such high quality content that deserves to be noticed.
Hey thanks Asher! I really appreciate that dude 🤙
Great video dude! Good riding skills as well. Also congrats on over 1k subs. Nice to see some quality up and coming channels. Subscribed!!
I really appreciate that! It means a lot. Thanks for the support! 🤘🤘
Yes sir! I’m trying to grow my channel myself so I like to spread the support around. 🤘
Hey man nice review and smooth riding! I just ordered the same fork for my wreckoning and ya, was hard to find!! I’m about your size so was happy to see a review addressing the rider vs fork spec. I’d love to chat about setup
Nice man! You’ll love it.
I love how we basically have the same bike(other than the coil shock, and bar) so any upgrades you put on give me a good sense of whats good...im right at 200 pounds and ive been eyeing this fork. Definitely going on my list once I finish upgrading my DJ and 29er ht! We definitely have similar styles as well, like side hits but also aggressively charging through rock gardens! Thanks for the work put into this video! Almost forgot how did the change in head tube angle and BB height feel going to a longer fork? Specifically climbing?
Nice dude! The Megatower is so rad. I didn’t really notice any difference through out the frame geo. My first pedal on it, I noticed a bit of a height difference up front but I that faded quick. Definitely not on the decent. I also did keep the same offset. I hope that helps 🤙
@@loamtroopers Awesome good to know! My reign X1 had a 170 vs the stock 160 and that thing is so wandery on the climbs...
I love the pistachio color looks awesome .. nice video bro ..
Thanks dude! I appreciate that 🤘
Sweet man looks rad! Great work on intro vid of bike, very stylie. Color looks nice with your bike, not usually a fan of lighter color forks but it looks good. I’m a bigger dude and I’m very interested in sizing up. Did you notice a difference in weight?
Thanks dude! Tried to do something a bit different this time. At first I wasn’t totally sold on the color, but now I love it. As for the weight, not at all! I’m not crazy about weight change, within reason, but I didn’t notice it at all.
Where state are you in? This trail looks super fun. Also love those BMX skills. Smooth riding homie.
This is in Lake Tahoe, California. Thanks dude. I appreciate that 🤘
Looks so frikn smooth man!!
It’s butter smooth! 🤘
Always wondered why almost all the pro enduro and DH riders used fox and had either 36’s or 40’s and not the RockShox lyrik or boxxer. Then I tried out a fox...
Fox definitely makes a killer product. You get what you pay for 🤙
Wow, great riding! 🚵♂ The colorway of that Fox 38 fork is absolutely stunning! 😍 Thinking of getting one myself to upgrade from my trusty Lyrik. How do you have your Fox 38 set up? Would love to know your settings for rebound, compression, and air pressure. Keep shredding! 🤘
38 Looks amazing and great video dude! Can I ask what wheelset you're running and what tyre pressures you go with. Looks like you're a similar size rider to myself
Thanks bro! I appreciate that. I do have a video on my wheel set up and the reason why I run them, so consider checking that out.
I run 29psi typically but if I have Cush core in, I can confidently run lower. Double down Maxxis casings front and rear.
Looks the same 😩😂
Nice video and good comparison. From what you described, I got the impression the 38 feels closer to a 40 than a 36. Not sure if you have ridden a 40 but it I would be interested in your opinion.
I have ridden 40s and they are much more plush then the 38. A 40 will provide maximum grip at high speeds while the 38 is the best of both worlds.
Almost switched my Decoy pro race pre order over to the Decoy Shred pre order simply because it had the newest fork. Glad I didn't if it's only an upgrade for larger riders
Can always upgrade later down the road. 🤷♂️ Would be a good ebike upgrade, sense there’s so much weight.
go fo the elite, i just updated my pre order of the sherd to the elite
I almost did the same thing with my Capra lol. Being 150 lbs and not liking 29ers.. nahhh
*gets new bolt for stem
Him: “wow this thing feels greaaat”
That trail looks rad! Great video and review. What kind of rear shocks are you running? I’m looking to upgrade to a 38 myself but wondering if I should upgrade rear as well. I currently have a Fox 36 and Fox float DPS and I’m really happy with it. But I’m thinking the bigger the better? Fox float X or X2? 🤙
For your size and the bigger 29er, you can shred it fast. From the video, I felt like you gonna always wash out on that dry sand but you're not. The Minion is awesome too.
Haha yeah it’s definitely sandy in the Sierras. The minions are a lifesaver!
Great video. Looking to upgrade my fork to this fork, or just get a new bike with the fork already installed
Love riding South Lake. At 170lbs I still like the 38. Hit up roads while your there
Lucky I’m local to south lake so toads is home. Good to know the 38 is still good at 170lbs. Cheers 🤘
Ahh, Nice. Lots of new riders up there this year. I used to live in Meyers. Just had fun up there last week, but saw so many people even up near Armstrong pass. Have fun, nice video!
Im 249lbs 5"6 tall, whats your tyre pressure at this kind of trail? Planning to get 36 but since i watched this vid gonna get that 38 ahahaa,nice video review.keep it up.
Thanks homie! I typically run 29psi with double down casings. Same for on that trail too. I would probably run it a bit lower if I had Cush Core in though.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
I'm 235lbs on a good day. I'll be looking at 38s for the future...this video provided SUUUUCH GOOD RIDING!!!! Refreshing!
Now lets get ourselves a strict diet! :P 🤣
Hey thanks Eduardo! It’s time to shed of the corona THICCCNESS
@@loamtroopers quarantine fifteen is REAL!!!
Great review bud! I have a 2019 Kona Process 153 CR/DL with the Lyrik fork 160mm travel and it does great for my weight at 260lbs. With that said I will make sure my next bike has these forks for sure unless something better and more beefy comes out and de throws this one! BE SAFE OUT THERE
Thanks dude! I appreciate that. That lyrik is a killer fork. Nothing wrong with that. But for you next one, hop on a 38, you won’t turn back 🤘
Why don't get stoked when seeing other people open mtb products? I like that color. So sick
It did turn out really good! I get why some people aren’t into it, but it’s nice to have something different.
Thanks for your review! How does it feel off the top? Is it fairly plush in small but tooth shaking chunder? My trails have some consistent half foot to 2 foot hits but there's also a bunch of rock gardens you can just roll/plow thru. I guess very similar to the section you did on your local trail here!
The top of the stoke has a ton of small bump compliance. I would say that’s is the softest part of the stroke. Then it has good ramp moving through the rest of the travel. Definitely the best I’ve ridden by far through the chunder and jank. Really grippy on the roots too. I hope that helps.
Aah man i would like to ride those type of trails , your so lucky
I definitely feel very fortunate that these are my local trails 🙌
New here! Nice Fox and video! 🤘
Hey! Welcome. Thanks for the support. I appreciate it 🤘🤘
Nice video super ride mate congrats new sub. I have 29 er yt capra with a rc2 cartridges fox 36 with 170mm travel. Im pretty big 220 lbs and i wanna buy fox 38, but the rs r made the zeb for much lower price so i dont know what do you think?
Thanks dude! I can’t say anything against the Zebb sense I haven’t ridden it but I’m sure it’s also a great unit. I would imagine, the Fox is a bit more progressive if you really get down to the nitty gritty but that’s just my guess. Upgrading to the Grip2 damper alone is a huge upgrade. You couldn’t go wrong investing into a 38 or a Zebb.
Great review of the 38! I'm considering an upgraded fork on my Bronson, leaning toward the 36 to gain responsiveness and enjoy a good weight savings over my stock Yari, but with the awesome things I'm hearing about the 38 that comes in at about the same weight I'm thinking it is a possibility. Just under 200lb rider with gear, occasional enduro race in the Tx hill country. Given your experience with the bronson what do you think?
Thanks, Brian! I appreciate that dude. I think you would definitely be stoked on the 36 coming from the yari. Obviously a whole lot more to offer. Now for the decision between the 36 and the 38, I haven’t thought about a 38 on a Bronson... but I like the idea! The 38 at 160 would be so much fun and a total weapon. Sense you’re already making the investment, I would probably go 38, but if you’re wanting to stay at 150 up front, then just go 36. Grip2 36 is going to be sick also. As for the weight difference, in my opinion you’re not going to notice that much. It’s 100% worth the strength. I hope that helps!
@@loamtroopers yeah that is good feedback, thanks a bunch. I've got some pondering to do. Peace!
I hear that I9 Hydra, love it!
Same! Every time I go ride, I’m stoked on it.
Great video bud! Do you notice the weight difference on climbs?
Thanks man! Not at all.. I’m not very critical on weight if it provides the performance in return though. If anything I noticed the geo change a bit from the bump to 170, but that faded quickly.
Thats a great review, good video tho🤙🏽
Thanks dude! Much appreciated
Awesome review man, thank you!
If I'm 165 lbs, should I stick with the Fox 36 factory? (since I don't wanna spend $1,000 plus for an upgrade that might not be a huge advantage for my weight range).
Thanks again!
Hi keep your 36. I have, lyrik, Fox34 and 36. I weigh 167 and 36 is fine. If you don't weigh 190+, stick with 36.
Great videos duuude. Really like your style of editing ....keep them coming.
Thanks Robert! I’m glad you enjoyed it. Lots more to come this summer 🤘
Super jealous you’re in Tahoe. I miss living
there and having access to all the great trails. I’m debating between a slightly used 2021 Ibis Ripmo w/factory 36 vs a new one I have in order coming with factory 38. Not sure if I’m better off with the 36 vs 38 as I am 5’10” 185lbs and don’t ride as aggressive based on your ride in this video. My trails are similar to yours but with much more exposed tree roots and tree dense trails here in the Smokey mtns. My comfort level of drops is 4ft. and under. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Great video pal!! I have a yeti 2020 sb140 and wanted to do the 38 and I’m new to this but I’m confused with the height or leverage? Will it change my angle of the bike or angle ? I’ll be using the bike for all mountain and a few climbs and peddling 🤷♂️😫 I’m 190 pounds .
If you raise the travel in the front, it will cause the seat tube angle to be typically a degree slacker. Which will result is the seating position while pedaling to not be as optimal. But, in my opinion, the benefits from the bigger fork are worth the sacrifice! I hope that helps 🤙
Great video! What about for someone 175 lbs and more of a line picker than a smasher? I'm thinking it might feel a little heavy?
I think a 36 would be right up your ally!
Great camera position. Really like the field of view.
Thanks! I find that’s the best between seeing down the trail and not feeling sick watching it 😂
Good info thanks!
🤘🤘
What are the disadvantage of the 38 over the 36? Weight and expense? I have an eMTB with a 36 (Grip) and I weigh 210lbs. For most of my riding it feels more than capable but certain trails in Queenstown push it to the limit and it bottoms out. I'm considering upgrading to a Grip2 or getting a 38.
Nice man!
Thanks dude!
hey man thanks for the cool video. How much psi are you running and whats your base set up clickwise?
Thanks dude! I appreciate that.
I run 123psi.
Rebound:
HSR - 2 clicks from closed
LSR - 1 click from closed
Compression:
HSC - 4 clicks from open
LSC - 9 clicks from open
With 3 volume reducers
@@loamtroopers thats very close to the basesetup from the fox tuning guide. My pistachio fork needs a bit more rebound :) But its a sick fork, I tell ya. My mind was blown away by the performance in the rough stuff.
Yeah just some minor changes for me. We’ll see what happens as I get more and more miles on it 🤘
@@loamtroopers So Im running a 100 psi with like 88-90 kilo (198lbs) bike gear ready. Since I am not using full travel I went down 1 click LSC and 2 clicks HSC
I am 5’10 athletic 185lbs in my 40’s. Debating between a slightly used 2020 Ibis Ripmo w/Fox 36 or keeping my current order that comes w/Fox38. Going the used route will save me $1500. Not sure if I need the fox 38 for my style of riding, can you help? I can ride pretty much any bike park trail, just not ripping down them and catching big air like the more advanced riders or carving up turns(not yet). I prefer picking my lines but have fun hitting drops up to 4’ on occasion and really enjoy the longer 10+mi switchback trails in the smokies. As much as I try to pick my lines, I am generally crashing through endless rocks and roots.
hey i liked the video but i am asking what's your weight(with no bad means just for my curiosity)
250lbs I believe in that video. I’m a big guy
have to remember increasing fork travel makes your head angle .5 degree steaper
Dude that was great riding and a really good honest review. How much pressure did you end up running?.
like my forks to run on the plusher side and I find fox’s recommended setting to be extremely stiff (I weight around 220 lbs kitted). Curious to hear what you baseline was on the 36 vs the 38.
Cheers man!
Thanks bro! I appreciate that feedback. I’m really stoked on these settings.
123 PSI and 3 volume reducers.
HSR - 4 clicks from closed
LSR - 1 click from closed
HSC - 4 clicks from open
LSC - 9 clicks from open
I’m very aggressive with my suspension though, so this is plush for myself but may feel a bit too responsive for some. I would run my 36 always at max psi, all volume reducers, and fairly closed. I think this fork has a lot more fine tuning then previous 36 models. You would probably want to dial these settings back to get a more plush ride.
Loam Troopers MTB thanks for the reply and settings!.
Shit you ride that thing hard (that’s is what she said) haha. I had my 36 at 75 PSI and 1 token. I am a lousy jumper so that is probably why I get away with such low pressure.
Thanks again for sharing your settings!
Rad video
Thanks man! I appreciate that 🤘
What are your settings? I’m 6’1 240 and yeah we are not the majority 😂. How many volume spacers and clicks out you run? I’m probably putting a 38 on my mega tower this week
Couldn't help but notice the coil shock was wondering how much do you weigh what spring size did you get?
That’s a 450lb coil and I weigh 240lbs
I saw that you were using the Evoc camera waist bag, have you ever had issues with it slouching because of all the weight?
Hey Sebastien. Yeah I definitely get some slouching if I fill it up. Typically a body, two lenses, and a gorilla pod does it. At first it really bothered me but I got pretty used to it. Best option I’ve found for sure.
Hey Dylan, I'm in the market for a full suspension mtb. Really like the Santa Cruz lineup and narrowed it down to a Megatower, Hightower, and Nomad. I'm a bigger guy like you as well. Former football player. 6'2" 275-285. I'm a subscriber as well and plan on riding as aggressive as you. Any suggestions?
Ornan
Hey Ornan. I for that type of riding I would recommend a Megatower for sure. The Hightower is also a great option if you plan on also riding more XC or not as aggressive of terrain. But if you’re looking for the reliable, do it all bike, I recommend a Megatower. The Nomad is also a great bike, but I’m sold on the 29r wheels. I hope that helps!
@@loamtroopers Hey Dylan, this helps a lot. I like the nomad because the fork has more travel but I just watched your video on that new Fox 38 shock you got for your Megatower. Also I've seen them on sale for $3400. Megatower is kinda out of my price range but might just have to bite the bullet. Do you know if 29inch wheels will fit on the Nomad?
@@Ornan91 nomad is 27.5 only but really isnt a big deal im a light guy only 180 pounds but im 6'6 and i ride an xl nomad for everything. Trail, bike park, on road, everything with the nomad
@@Ornan91 and nomad comes in alum
@@stevenjam7119 Jesus 6'6" 180! Go eat a steak man lol. Im 280 and the same height on a xxl megatower, I would love to be at the 230 mark! You're lucky!
👍👍 ty good job
Thanks a lot! 🙌
big dudes on mtbs 🤘
In the vid the old fork looks like fox 36 performance with the FIT damper (unless you upgraded the cartridge). How much of this is a comparison between the FIT and GRIP dampers?
Good eye Eric! So the model on my Megatower was with a Fit4. My last fork had a Grip2 damper. I’m familiar with the difference between the two dampers. This review is more about the structure. While that aids the performance of the Grip2, in my opinion. Although, the shim stack is this fork creates a very unique feel compared to the 36’s Grip2. Just bro science though. 🤷♂️ 🤘
@@loamtroopers All good. I was hoping of the differences were due to GRIP2 since I was considering upgrading a FIT4 damper to it. :)
Nice review. How much do you weigh? (Found it: 240 pounds).
Thanks!
Im trying to save up for this because my current lyrik creaks and pops underneath my weight (110kg) and it doesn't feel stiff and I feel like I'm going to crack my steerer tube or something
You’ll definitely enjoy the upgrade!
I'm 6'5 250 lbs athletic build. I'm getting this fork for my 2020 SWorks Enduro. How many volume spacers did you use?
I added one more to the stack that came in the chamber. I think it was 5 total
Curious to know your settings. I've just got my 170mm 38 and my hands were beaten badly after the first run! I was using the suggested settings for my 125kg weight (275ish lb) and have changed the pressure anywhere between 140PSI and 90PSI. Appreciate any tips!
How much is it? The new fork looks very very GREAT!!!
They range from $1k to $1.4k. HUGE upgrade but heavy price.
Cool intro!
Thanks Lewis!
I now realise how tiny the 36 crown and steerer is
it's not that it's tiny, it's that it's tiny in comparison to the 38
Definitely more stout on the 38! 36 is still a great platform. The 38 is just a different monster.
im about your size id guess, what wheels do you like and also rear shock. i plan to get a fox 38 and wheels and a shock to work with my size and ability
I love my Santa Cruz Reserve rims laced to I9 hydra hubs.
As for the rear shock, I’m running the Rockshox super deluxe ultimate coil and it works well with the megatower.
You need a FOX mud guard to perfect this fork.
I know! It would be nice to have one that just screws on. Soon!
What's the camera setup for this video?
Gimbal? Camera + Camera setting?
Thank you
This was GoPro Hero7 / 2.7k 24fps / Krama Grip / with a side of technical difficulties 😂
Hey man i was wondering what rebound;compreesion; and psi u were running in this video?