Ecoflow Blade vs. Luba Vs. EPOS | A Robotic Mower Showdown
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- You asked, and we delivered. The ultimate robotic mower showdown:
EcoFlow Blade vs.
Luba AWD 5000 vs.
Husqvarna 450X EPOS
We put them through several rigorous tests:
Test #1: Map & Mow: We see which robotic mower maps their area the quickest, and which one finishes the mowing race with the highest cut quality.
Test #2: The Signal Test: We test signal strength by distance for each robotic mower. How far from the reference station can you operate?
Test #3: The Slope Test: We installed each mower on the same "big stupid extreme hill" and tested how each performed.
Test #4: Signal Strength with Obstructions: We test product accuracy through obstructions (like your house, for example!)
Watch the video to check out how they each performed!
0:00 - Intro
1:38 - Test 1: Map & Mow
2:44 - Map & Mow Results
5:46 - Test 2: Signal Integrity by Distance
6:45 - Signal Integrity Results
7:24 - Test 3: Signal Integrity: Obstruction
10:00 - Signal Obstruction Results
10:24 - Test 4: Slope Test
14:51 - Slope Test Results
16:26 - Conclusion
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Respect for being an American reviewer and not just fanboying on the "made in US" trait that most reviewers do.
Great video. Just a note on the Luba, you can change it from the 3 point turning to more of a tank rotate. It speeds things up and really improves performance on hills. It does however chew up the grass a bit more, which is why Mammotion has it set to the 3 point turn as standard.
Also, interesting to see the signal test in the backyard. I would like to see that repeated like 5 to 10 times each to really eliminate variables.
It would be interesting to see the robot recognize a steep slope and choose to tackle it at a diagonal thus reducing the slope. Similar to how we drive up mountains.
Great work Team USA. Fun tests but very useful info too. Excellent traction and plenty of cutting power is raising the bar for robot mowers. Greetings from New Zealand, down-under.
I absolutely love these lads
Hello! I would love for you to test the Yarbo grass module. It works all year round, even for snow removal. Equipped with cameras, sensors and RTK systems, it navigates smoothly and avoids obstacles. It can handle large surfaces and has strong performance. Highly recommended for both summer and winter use.
To the person who said their lawn looks bad after mowing. My son and I both have Luba 1, 5000s, and he just bought a two. I have it set up to mow so when done, my lawn is nicely striped and well manicured. His too. The only drawback is that it doesn't really mulch, so to get that look you have to mow often.
Loved to have see the Kress RTK in the mix against these
I'm in touch with Kress for a KR173. They have been great. They're conducting a site survey and trying to figure out whether to install an antenna or setup a remote connection for me. I'm just eagerly waiting for the final outcome. Setup date is supposed to be the end of August.
Great video. I can imagine that was a lot of fun to shoot. I would be curious to see real world battery life, map-following accuracy, and handling of random sticks/branches of various size. For some reason our trees bomb the lawn constantly so mowing always involves dodging and chucking.
Yes! How much lawn neglect can they handle .
A video testing these under an apple tree would be great!! Our neighbors apple tree drops them in our yard and strongly considering making the jump to one of these two mowers but worried about if they can overcome the apples
This would be great. Also interested if map sections can auto adjust to different height. Example cutting apples, driving across gravel drive to get to mow spot, rocky grass area...
I'm subscribing today as I will be moving into my new house in about 2 months and I want to see things like these reviews. For me, I have a sneaky suspicion that the Luba 5000 is gonna be my machine as I have such a hill (granted, not strewn with all the 'hay' as such, but with the slope). I've watching @crazypostman as well.
You don't know anything about technology do you?
Would like to see a video of the mowers under large trees.
And behind housesss... outhouses
And multiple runs since the satellites are always moving.
Like your video, and this video is really good and interesting~🤣
What about durability and serviceability for these devices. It is a lot to pay if they only last a few months and not years.
Regarding durability, the EPOS is made by Husqvarana which has many years of proven reliability and an established dealer/service network.
The newer brands are durable based on our testing, but no statistics until long term testing is done. Servicing will be done by either manufacturers Service Center or by Servicing Dealers.
Crazy opinion here, I think the Omni luba would have done better In that particular hill just because the rear tires have a lot more traction. Going up and down steep hills Omni is the winner, going sideways on the hill maybe not so much
So I’ve had the ecoflow at my house now for a few months… I love it. I have had zero issues with the Omni wheels. My biggest gripe is actually the rear wheels getting mud/grass buildup and also leaving some bare spots at the turning points at the edge of the yard. To be fair, I run it daily and don’t give those areas much time to recover. I’m actually with you in the sense that the Omni wheels don’t bother me at all and I actually see them perform very well. Thanks for the comment. As always, love your content.
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@@AutmowRoboticMowinghe’s talking about the Omni wheels on the newer Lubas, not the EcoFlow Blade’s front Omni wheels.
I sent my ecoflow blade back because went out of bounds. I have two ditches and have to set boundary area 2 to 3 feet away from the ditch so my mower will not get stuck. That left me with two stripes that I had to mow.
At 4:30 you say the EcoFlow Blade doesn’t allow map editing but that feature has been out for two months so I’m not sure how you missed that. It’s under Map Management in the mower’s settings. You can add to an existing zone or reduce the zone size using restricted zones.
Thank you for calling this out as it is a much needed and appreciated feature. Our timeline on producing this video and getting it up might have not given the Ecoflow the benefit of the doubt with updates. The video had been in production for a while and that we should have revisited the functionality before video launch.
You can't edit the original map. You have to delete and start all over. Ecoflow fired the team and are heavily discounting this. I returned this as the latest firmware broke everything
I have been using a 430xh but really want to upgrade to an RTK system. I just can’t justify the price of a 450xh epos. Is the Luba a decent option? Which do you consider to be the best? I assume husqvarna
The Luba wins on all categories tbh it’s more reliable and literally doesn’t get stuck as much and does a amazing job cutting huge fields so ya
Did you remember to disable the ultrasonic on the luba, it looked like it was stopping it on the hill, with the high hay straws
Great callout! For this video/portion of the video, we had toggled the sensitivity but after it had made some progress to see how it affected performance. For those curious about this setting on their own Luba; In the Task settings, go to Task mode and use "Customize" to change the "Obstacle detecting mode" to "Off" and Luba will only use detection when the front bumper is activated.
Can you include in further tests base station near house with tree cover?
I think this is important but keep seeing reviews saying many base stations have to be out in open with antenna...
This is really terrible as would mean long electric run for most installs.
Luba is 10x better than the other two.
Luba doesn't have a model that cuts long enough for a lot of US lawns. 2.7 inches is too short for many.
@christopherisherwood2508 I live in the mountains of NC, and it's plenty tall for my grass. Plus, I moved from two 450XH units to Luba, and I can't tell any difference on the highest setting.
@@christopherisherwood2508Exactly. If it can’t get to 3.5” it’s a deal breaker.
Wait until the Luba reaches a few thousend hours.
My last Husqvarna had over 10‘000h on the clock and parts were still available after 11 years.
I the 450X Nera Epos now. It is amazingly reliable.
@@christiansprojects-cgmanuf1426 I had two 450s, pieces of s%?t.
Thank you for reviews. I have ditch between my yard and the road in front of my house. The ditch is 300 feet long and the slope is approx 30-45% on both sides of the ditch. For me, this would be a helpful realistic test: to simulate mowing a rural Ohio county road ditch. Would it be possible to add this type of testing criteria to your mower reviews? Thank you.
My landroid thinks that it has been picked up when it is in the ditch. It has only gotten worse or "safer" I think in the past 2 years. It also bumps the front bumper at the bottom of the ditch, it thinks something is in front of it, and it tries to turn around. The ditch is my only deciding factor and nobody has reviews on it!
This is a great idea and we will see if we can add it to the list!
How it handles a ditch is key for me as well, either up and down, or sidways. I prefer sideways as I wouldn't want my mower to get ran over going into the street.
I have 7 acres that I mow. It would be interesting to see your reviews of the Kress robot mowers. Please consider adding one of these mowers for your testing. For my application, I would like to see your reviews of the Kress KR236 mower. Thank you.
Wow those are pricey compared to these. ~$13k could test 4 of each of these across the 7 acres.
Riddle me this... Which robotic mower can handle all of this?
(1) 30 degree slope, (2) one half acre lot, (3) minimum 3.5" cut height, and (4) wire-free
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So yall telling me the Husqvarna at the beginning sat there took its time, was going super slow, paused to think where it was, and STILL finished 1st??? 🤔🤔🤔
Other things worth pointing out are spare parts availability and pricing. Husqvarna generally has good parts availability for motors, control boards, etc., even if you still have to have a dealer "re-calibrate" the mower before you can use it again. On the other hand, the Luba is significantly cheaper than a Husqvarna of comparable capability.
This is what scares me about the Luba. If the battery dies…..then what?
@@danyeo I'd have to imagine you can probably find a compatible battery out there, even if OEM batteries are not available. Not entirely sure, though. I've had a Husqvarna 315x for about 6 years now and it still works fine, so I guess as long as you don't abuse it, the battery should last quite a while.
@@doctormosfet I’ve read in a few places that it’s no easy swap to replace a Luba battery.
@@danyeo that is entirely possible, although there is a video out there of someone doing a pretty deep repair on his Luba. So you can definitely disassemble them and replace things. Just a question of how much work you want to do. Hopefully their failure rate is very low and so you won't need to fix it anyway.
@@doctormosfet I’m keeping an eye on users reviews and reliability. A lot of them are being sold now so may take a few years to get a realistic idea. I want to buy one this Spring, I trust Husqevarna a bit more.
Test the wifi/sensor behind a barn/guest house. Luba goes on your wifi + extension in every house? Husqarna only on sensor? .... not behind houses. According to Husqarna.
Nice toys, but at $3000 it makes way more economic sense for people with small yards to hire a neighborhood kid. or even a full blown yard service, and people with large yards to buy a conventional riding mower.
$999.00 online at walmart site at time of this comment.
Sorry kids.
Kids have not mowed lawns for a 20 in ten plus years at this point. 😢
A riding mower cost about the same plus you have to spend hours of your life every single year on it
Is the ecoflow discontinued now??
Any change you guys can do the YARBO? Ambrogio wireless as well, if it's possible.
Stay tuned!
🙌🙌
I have an intricate lawn with lots of curves and points and corners because I like flower beds and paths.
All of these reviews focus on the macho side of these machines. They don't handle the time consuming stuff of making sure the machine cuts up to the edge or if not how close is it. 4 inches for the Luba would be 15% of my lawn area that I would need to cut manually or weed whack.
I have a 16 inch electric mower and it takes most of a day to trim and cut my fiddly lawn. I was hoping some robot would take off a chunk of the load. Thoughts about different testing for small yard guys like me?
Thanks for instructive videos.
I have an intricate lawn. I’m testing the Luba. It does cut down the job a lot and does a decent job cutting around flower beds. But it took me a long time to get it right. Even with the RTK on my room with open sky, I lose connectivity when up against the house or under any trees. It’s pretty frustrating. For my house, it handles about 60-70% of the mowing job. I wish it could do more. But a little tree here and there really mess with it’s signal.
This is a great testing idea - how close do they mow to yarge edges and no go zones? They appear to be handled differently.
Sounds like you have a beautiful lawn! But yes, we have heard this frustration before with having the need to trim the areas that the bots aren't able to get. There are a few points we'll try and address. A big selling factor for a lot of our customers is the 85% of the lawn they no longer have to manage and that 15% feels like less of a chore. The curves, points and corners should not be a major problem for these with the exception of hard angles(especially under 90/110°), so rounding them out helps. In respect to your flower beds and how much trimming will be left, we have seen success in leveling the beds which allows you to extend the cutting area bit further and leave less for trimming. While this may not be possible for all landscaping, there are some trim reduction opportunities there. And while we do talk a lot about the maximum capabilities in general size, smaller, more intricate lawns can be managed in the same way, but may need a little more thought to an effective installation. I hope that addressed your comment. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the video. I have som issue with the mowing test unfortunately. It makes no sense that the luba would be slower than the other two with double the cutting width, with that speed and when it clearly was fastest out of the home station. The test doesn’t take in to account how well the mowers cut the grass since the grass was “dead”. If the grass was longer I bet the Luba would have had a much better cutting result than the other two if it finished last.
... and the Luba seemed to be tracking very straight and true to achieve that manicured look too?
A number of questions come to mind concerning settings. What speed setting, how many boundary laps, what obstacle avoidance mode?
@@marquisdemoo1792 That's also what I'd like to know, you can change the speed settings massively on the luba.
If the Luba battery dies, that’s it. The thing is toast unless you ship it back to China and get it fixed……who knows when. Battery reliability right now with these I’d label as undetermined.
great technic test , thanks. but what about price ? i think husquvarna is twice the price. isn't it ?
Thank you. We hope we were able to help some folks out there make up their mind by seeing them in action. If you want the most accurate MSRP's, head over to our shop (link in the description). The Husqvarna is the priciest model we tested here. That being said, they've been at it for a while, and there is some merit behind their cost with the technology in the product. We do expect as the market get's new, viable alternatives and the technology matures, the overall cost for all of them will continue to drop. We feel the future has a good outlook for customers.
And I have not seen H run to next area like L. Speedy on track to area 2 haha
Agree with above comment - what about cutting height minimum with these robots?! I don’t understand how the Luba is so great in all other aspects but their minimum cutting height suckksssss for summer grade maintenance (I’ve got tall fescue)
The Luba doesn’t have cellular data for when it loses wifi, it doesn’t have an onboard camera for vision-based positioning or obstacle avoidance, it doesn’t have manual mowing for when you want to mow via Bluetooth, only a two year warranty, almost nonexistent support. If you want to cut the steep slopes I guess it’s good but I wouldn’t consider it a superior product by any meanings.
Mammotion are working on a High Cut version of Luba, currently in the second phase of testing. Due to be released late 2023 in the US. Initial testing has a cutting range of 60-95mm / 2.35-3.75 inch
@@AutmowRoboticMowing are they going to improve their return policy to extend past unopened boxes only?
I have an apple tree. What happens when my auto mower hits one in the yard? Or a peach. Or a plum? I try to get them all but I may miss one! Do I need to rake the yard before I let this thing loose? Not everyone has a treeless yard.
All of these mowers are outfitted with "flail style" blades that will not deliver their energy through an object. The worst that will happen is that the mower will put a cut or a slice in the piece of fruit. The mower might just run it over or it could even bump into it and turn in another direction.
Ok. I caved and bought one anyway! Programming tomorrow! Thanks! @@AutmowRoboticMowing
Speed.... did that take into account accuracy? Getting done fast and wrong is worse than slow and right.
How does this perform in the fall with yards full of leaves?
I've had my Luba for about 2 months. I have to say there is a learning curve in programming it. If there is an issue, odds are it's the programmer, not the mower. Keep up with the upgrades. I'm still adjusting to it. I have apple trees, white pine (PINE CONES) maple and oak trees. I had many questions but somehow, it works, even under large trees, you just have to give it a minute. Tiny apples, 1" or rotten ones, it just steamrolls (weighs about 40 lbs) right over them, no issue. Large apples I pick up or rake out of the way to the base of the tree. It has hit a few- wasn't there when it happened- but saw a slice out of it. Luba mowed and moved on. I definitely pick up/rake away large pine cones and large sticks because I don't like to hear the blades hitting them. It won't hit acorns if they are small. No huge leaf drop here -yet- but it did mow the grass under the leaves. I didn't notice it shredding the leaves like a mulcher would, but then my riding Toro doesn't do that great of a job on leaves either. On the plus side, now that I have this, I have more time to rake/burn leaves! I sincerely hope they continue to improve their product. 👍 In the meantime, I'm keeping my rider for the "big stuff."
@@wrad8292 Thanks for the reply!!
The Ecoflow Blade is on sale at Walmart for $999. What’s the catch?
Humm I only see a refurbished one at that price. Also refurbished only by Walmart...
Not clear if it has a base station with it either!
would have been fun to see the 435x in the steep hill....
Läs vi svenskar på haha. Lutar åt Luba som går på din egen wifi = med extension i ladan och gästhuset täcker den hela tomten. Hussqvarna går bara på sensorn??. dvs inte på baksidan av något hus.
That was less of a hill test and more of a overgrown lawn test. What about a normal hill.
COSTS ?
[ ] What are the Relative Costs of these Machines?
If you would like to see actual MSRP's and additional information, head over to our store (links in description). I won't list the prices here as they can always change, but to give a ballpark of the mowers tested here, all are over $1,500 with cheapest to most expensive being Luba AWD 5000 > EcoFlow Blade > Husqvarna 450XH EPOS.
They never asked Kress to show up for this battle. I know why...
I think your why might be different than ours. Stay tuned if you're looking for content on Kress 😉
@@AutmowRoboticMowing I'm good. I speak with my Kress representative daily. They're GIVING me a KR173 robotic mower for FREE to test out for a month. They must have an antenna installed at a secondary dealer in my city. They wanted to put an antenna on my house.
Dis my mountain 😂
Hi how about puddles?
Hello. It really depends on the product, the puddle and how long it spends in there. All models shown are rated at IPX5 (minimum) and can withstand normal wear and tear including driving through some puddles. That being said, if you have areas that regularly puddle up, I would recommend setting a no-go zone, parking during heavy rainfall, or make it a secondary area that you manage a little more closely with the weather. Why? Even though the mower might be okay, the muddy, soft ground is far easier to tear up and the mowers could get stuck and sit unnecessarily sad and alone until you can get to them. I hope that helps.
Eco flow is terrible. Grass constantly stuck, constantly going away from the track. It just sucks. We are frustrated with ours.
I would to see a remote controlled full size mower.
Ecoflow is 🗑️
I have an automower and can confirm it’s dumb as a rock. From all the information I can gather, Luba will be a lot better mower soon if not already. I will wait for the next model to get rid of my automower.
All the dealer videos favour automower. May be because their livelihood depends on it?
So ya there you have it guys Luba is the best do not get the other 2 mowers I love robots they suck luba is the best you can get right now in the market that is the most reliable period
ECOFLOW is $999.00 online at walmart site at time of this comment.
What’s the catch?
@@danyeo i don’t know - has been this price since the price drop. Maybe not going to make em anymore and dumping them?
@@patricksquires6348 I saw that price and was ready to pounce, but the more negatives I read about the Ecoflow the more hesitant I am.
The grass still looks crap after all of them have been over it. They do a TERRIBLE job.
Don’t feel this is a fair test at all
Why??? 👊🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
thumbs down for no price comparison