This is like shutting down a food bank or library. It’s a public good. You accomplish nothing. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a false flag from other interests because this target is plain stupid on the ‘hackers’ part
you know, some dude from r/datahoarder who mirrored hundreds of petabyte from the internet archive is smiling knowing that his work was worth it and he could rebuild the archive at any time.
> Presents self as black hat > Speaks as if white hat > Doesn't dump or auction data > American writing style > Doing rounds with media Nothing glowing here folks..
Honestly though the only motive that makes sense is someone who was trying to make everyone aware of the security issues so that it's safe from future attacks. If someone actually had bad intentions they wouldn't have done it this way
@@midnightclub7629think it was the bankers? what interest would they have in taking it out? all the mirrors of anti israeli content, non mainstream politics, stuff like that, also it ruins their profits and threatens their depiction of history. Those are all points they'd use to take it out but if they were gonna do that they'dve done that by now, it's probably corpos, but hey it's feasible
The fact that the security was so weak to the point that nobodies lowlife hackers could hack into it, yet it took so long for them to finally get hacked just shows how much respect everyone has for Internet Archive. Targeting the only archive of the Internet is just a new low.
honestly. leaving a .git is pretty embarrassing. if that was one of the vectors... well let's just say that a lot of people who learn hacking will know to look for those even if they are not experienced
The Internet Wayback Machine and the file archives aren't just for fun. It's court evidence, books and other media you can't get anywhere else, educational resources that were originally taken down etc. I know the word can't be reclaimed, but at least don't call these twats "hackers".
They haven't even e-mailed people to say that their email addresses and passwords have been stolen - if some people are using the same passwords on other sites, it could be very damaging for them.
or they're really up against people who with the resources to get what they want no matter the cost. many corporate or nation state backed groups have virtually infinite money and a giant stash of zero days at their disposal to the point that trying to keep them out is futile no matter how good your security and security practices are.
@@SuperPupperDoggo Look at how this breach occurred. They were even told directly exactly what the issue was. And it was in fact quite trivial. They took zero action. Zero action takes zero resources.
Almost certainly they are part of it. The Archive admins have been purging content their friends and family don't like for YEARS, there is not much integrity there to begin with, so we're not actually losing that much here. That all the twats who deleted pages from the Archives got their identities compromised is just the cherry on top.
This smells of state-sponsored/corporate-sponsored attackers...but I am really disappointed in IAs failure to take security seriously I hope we have backups somewhere...
What is the point of a conspiracy theory when they already have the conspiracy complete? You don't even have to work at these entities anymore as long as you still have access to your email and they will remove whatever you tell them to. There are people who have been getting things removed just because they still have a Google email address despite not having worked there for years. Just like Facebunk and Twatter, the government and companies don't need to do anything except send the archive an email and tell them to take it down.
thing is, who is this going to affect? most of the voters have no clue what IA even is, let alone care, and let alone think about it in any political way
Given that the Trump campaign had plenty of time for people to look at the archives, there's only one party that could have the motivation, the one who had a new candidate appear out of nowhere.
Attacking internet archive is equivalent to attacking a news station that’s there to record, you don’t do it and it’ll make you look bad in everyone’s eyes
I want old books! It's bad enough the Corpo Mafia extended copyright claims to almost a century. In my healthy suspicion, their ultimate goal is erasing the past (except for paid subscribers who gets the choice to 'borrow' a sanitized package).
My money is on whoever was suing the Archive in the first place. Whenever this information eventually comes to light, I have a pretty strong hunch that those people just decided to fuck with the Archive rather than fight them in court - and that is a VERY SERIOUS extra-judicial escalation. That’s taking matters into your own hands rather than letting them play out in court, and the word for that is *”vigilantism.”* It’s not okay.
I wouldn't have finished my PhD dissertation without Internet Archive. There are literally dozens of primary and secondary texts I couldn't have accessed without either paying a ridiculous amount of money for a scan or printing a PDF from IA. It's hard to understate how important having a free, central, and independent node of knowledge is to society.
Keep offline archives of your data folks. This is going to happen again and again, and one day we will not have an online archive at all. Remember disk swapping? If you don't, you'll find out what that was (again) in a few years.
It could've been so much unbelievably worse, so I'm glad it isn't. It's clear to me that the hacker is extremely disappointed and upset at the Internet Archive's state of affairs, and their intent is to get them to harden their security. We. Cannot. Afford. To lose the Internet Archive. It'd be like burning down the second fucking Library of Alexandria! And everybody knows how that went down in history: an unambiguously, uncontroversially absolute catastrophe, and a most unfortunate, grave loss for all of humanity. It'd be an exercise in the utmost insanity to allow yet another biggest library in the world to be destroyed again.
From what I’ve read the library of Alexandria suffered not one burning but multiple and by time of its final end most of the stuff wasn’t even there. could be wrong though, that’s just what I remember.
@@RicArmstrong thats because there slc nand. modern multilayered flash has less resilience to unpowered corruption. this is jsut because the price of flash hasnt decreased nearly fast enough for the capacity gains, and so they were used to improve capacity. additionally, controllers are able to mitigate this type of corruption when powered on its too bad that the m-disc bluray production ceased. but even standard bd-rs (rws of all kinds rot way faster and easier) will last longer than an ssd. people suggesting tapes but like honestly, the price doesnt seem that great. and also the format changes and liek they break backwards compat. idk
I like to look at the bright side of things. Hopefully they use this as an opportunity to increase their operational security and website resilience. They likely still have all the data and can restore it in full.
@@noderunner_ They are currently facing immense legal trouble with publishers and already lost a lawsuit for which the damages they have to pay are way beyond their budget already. They most definitely cannot invest the money into upgrading their security
My schizo theory is the powers that be don’t want anyone looking anything up pre-2020. I mean, it’s not as if the news won’t edit an article or a film won’t be edited to add current day things or history changed…
theyre actually erasing 2020-2022 era stuff because they want to repeat the nonsense cough and don't want any fact checking. People are already forgetting
Don't let them feel powerful, that's all they really want out of life... its sad. With that being said, I hope this hacker thinks about just how much this is seriously affecting people and understand why history is so important to begin with. If they ever see this comment, I hope you understand that basically the entire internet is either disappointed or hates you right now, because we know you can be a lot better than this.
there's degrees of penetration testing response that shoud to be followed from important companies. Oh well, I suppose that was their collective reports forwarded beginning from 2018. sacred ground, indeed. powerful entities benefit from distribution of this collective data log.
Not to mention most old school hackers are for freedom of the common person against potentially oppressive parties, such as corporations and governments. If anything, the old school hackers would be doing side work to protect the internet archive.
Internet Archive is a public service of immense value. Hope they get their security in order soon. In the meantime, I will be making a donation in support of this.
From the tone of the email, and the hacker giving info to security things, i think the hacker that breached it was trying to get them to fix it before its too late If it was gov, they would have been quiet If it was a random hackerman, there is no-one selling the info to people
@@IDontModWTFz Well, it could be better than this tbf, look the XZ case for example (Although yeah, there can be more insidious attacks going in that and other open source projects).
@@doomtrooper3184 we can actually use ai for this (good use of ai) it can detect hidden character or malicious code hidden or embedded into the pull request
I was pretty mad about the IA attack because I’ve used the way back machine to recover files that a local corrupt politician deleted to hide his investment disclosures from the public, along with other projects. Now that I know the hackers went after the source code and Tb of other data… I’m kind of wondering if someone is planing to make a new version of the system to ensure the archiving still happens. They have been getting sued into the ground by the brick and mortar institutions after all.
@@lilpisser124 Or maybe the guy is just expressing his distaste toward the situation in general? This is what only using the internet as a form of human communication will do to a man.
this seems more logical than the people here saying its the elites taking down history, if they wanted to do that they wouldn't publicly announce that they just hacked IA. or better yet, they wouldn't send an email to them, or leave any traces at all.
Others beat me to it already, but DDoS'ing the archive really is like bombing a food bank. On one end of the spectrum there's the 'victimless crime', and on the other hand there's this, a crime with no benefits and only victims.
Internet archive is where I watched a lot of the documentaries that show "the wrong side of history", great place for the likes of Ernst Zundel and Tom Metzger content. I wouldn't be surprised if that was a partial motivation.
Looks like you didn't even use the Internet Archives recourses of you think that Christians burnt the Library of Alexandria, it was your precious pagans who did that. Call out the real problem for who they are, but I guess that would be too antisemitic huh?
They won’t be LOLing when their pictures and address of everyone they love are all public but hey, they like attacking a service that serves a general good for the public so it’s free game.
It wouldn't surprise me if it's glowies or the legal team of those scummy companies hiring a hacker. It doesn't seem like most people wanted to hack the Internet Archive even if they could. Though that does make me wonder why a white hat or grey hat didn't find and disclose these vulnerabilities sooner if it's being knowingly insecure for so long.
Wow, I visited their website like two days ago. Now I know why nothing showed. I think it would be highly problematic if they actually kept those personal documentation pictures in a database somewhere instead of removing them. Reminds me of the time the Belgian province of Limburg got hacked. They also had a bunch of sensitive data needlessly stored in a vulnerable database that was apparently not supposed to be connected to the internet anymore.
its obvious that the person responsible isnt REALLY a threat actor, they are just dumping on them for having dumpy security - the way they type is like a guy that tried to warn them several times that this is an issue and that they need to fix it but they didn't listen, like a fed up dad. people saying they accomplished nothing are completely wrong, they accomplished making the IA admins a complete laughing stock and maybe they will stop being so bad at their job
When i do research and investigate things I use the internet archive for some things. I can't imagine what operations involving investigative or education purposes were halted or put on pause due to these hacks. Honestly horrible for people to hack the Internet archive of all things. I hope they get things fixed.
No one needs to hack it because they censor their so-called archive themselves in the first place. They are trash not worth defending. They're like being handed a dictionary where someone ripped out all the pages with mean words on them. Garbage not worth your time.
Choose your flavor of who possibly could have hacked IA: Hachette Book Group, HarperCollins, Penguin Random House, and Wiley. All of these publisher's are currently suing them. I'm sure there are plenty of people who want to see free information not be free anymore.
Scholastic was a Jewish ran publisher, the main educational books in my school and the things they misrepresented and promoted in those "educational" books are complete revisionist history. Funny how they got a government contract for all that.
I think its a good way to show their flaw in security. Whilst the site is amazing for transparency and investigating deleted stuff, it also needs to keep data protected from governments and or private entities. something which was now shown it did not. This will hopefully allow them to fix these issues now. Ofc something like this might have been able to be solved in closed doors, but that can come with different issues such ass it being ignored by the company, but to each their own.
Someone burns down a library, and apparently someone sympathetic to the people of palestine claims involvement. I think this points to the true perpetrators.
2:34 btw that's real. i used the same password for like 50 less important websites and social media accounts. ~15 of them got hacked the first day and started uploading some strange fortnite cheats ads on my account. fortunately i didn't lose anything important and i now use keepas and 2 factor auth for important things
If the data of the wayback machine had been lost, it would have been a loss greater than the Library of Alexandria (in terms of cultural value, not in terms of raw book quantity - that's actually pretty common for a national library these days)
How does illegal to contact employees for outages work? That sounds like a horrible idea if i work for a team that manages healthcare infrastructure. So it's illegal for me to stop hackers from stealing patient data?
In some places, if you need to have someone on call 24/7 they need extra compensation. An org like IA might not have a dedicated security team on call, it gets expensive.
2 місяці тому
You should have on call employees for such things.
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@@pacifico4999 Which does make sense since you can't just expect that you just stop living or having a weekend just so your boss can call you without compensation.
My mom had an account on that site and guess what the password there was the same as my mom's digital wallet account. Bit scary, but yeah on the same day when the news spread (through fireship) my mom changed the password instantly and yeah we successfully survived otherwise my mom's 10 years struggle (literally 10 years) would go into the hell.
The internet archive saved my ass in College. My professor for analysis of algorithms used to post the midterm solutions to his class website after the midterm was done. The older class pages were always archived and accessible and but he just made the old tests not accessible publicly ud get a 404, only current semesters midterm was available. The issue came up because if you put the URL for past semesters midterm in the wayback machine you could see and download the entire midterm and most of the time it was a very similar question.
@@obsidianjane4413 those types of tests only test rote memorization not competence. If something hard and not well taught is on a test, prepare them for it smh.
@@obsidianjane4413 yea, I am. Because if you live in America and you feel the need to "cheat" on a test, it's usually because the teachers didn't fully prepare you for what is on the test. I've seen it, I've heard about it, and I've experienced it. The mindset of "do your own reading" that profs use is literally the epitome of laziness and isn't justifiable to me or most people paying massive heaps of cash to these institutions.
This is just so bad, people are accusing inernet acrhive for doing absolutely nothing bad. And its also a non-profit company. I use internet archive every day and now i can't.
Very unprofessional tbh, they didn’t need to put up an alert or send out emails. They could’ve sent an email to everyone that maintains AI and kept it under wraps. They wanted the attention.
The person who put up the alert was in the original hacking group (so wouldn't bother letting IA management know anyway), and the guy who sent out the email appears to simply have been someone who used part of the leaked DB to warn a lot of people that the Archive hadn't got their shit together yet.
Imagine, you found the security weakness of the charitable organization. Instead of privately contacting organisation, you make the public statement about their weaknesses. Thus exposing that weakness, instead of patching it secretly with organisation, so nobody would know about said weakness! Also you get clout as "good" and "honourable" hacker, because you are "helping". What a hipocrisy, wow.
I saw this idea on this website, that the hack is done by the archive itself to exfiltrate their own data, so it won't be lost due to all those lawsuits they're facing. The source is a random other UA-cam comment, because I am smart
4:33 it doesn't seem to me like this is coming from the same place as the original breach. It seems like a third party who got access to the leak and wanted to get word out that things aren't to be trusted again yet
I think this hack is actually a good thing for transparency on the internet. The IAs security practices are so poor that threat actors could have been surreptisiously been modifying the data in the archive and been unnoticed. Hopefully they take security more seriously after this.
This is like shutting down a food bank or library. It’s a public good. You accomplish nothing.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a false flag from other interests because this target is plain stupid on the ‘hackers’ part
OpenLibrary is part of Internet Archive, so the hackers literally shut down the world's most accessible library.
Lol plenty of actors would like the archive gone
You underestimate the pretentiousness of the same group of people that promote a patriarchy (Palestine) whilst being women
It was profit based. They say it was for “ palestine” but they were already trying to sell the data. Just human greed lol
The archive is not a “public food bank”. Nor is it anything like a utility. You guys are retarded and cuck pilled. Grow up
you know, some dude from r/datahoarder who mirrored hundreds of petabyte from the internet archive is smiling knowing that his work was worth it and he could rebuild the archive at any time.
This is important. Cross fingers then
The ia says they have 15 PB of storage, idk how much of that they're actually using tho
Is it true or are you just making shit up ?
@@alainportant6412there's a dedicated group of I think 7 guys that worked on it
@@alainportant6412 I CAINT REED!!!
said it before and ill say it again, who benefits more from erasing the verifiability of history:
1. random trolls
2. government states
gee i wonder…
3. Nintendo (They're assholes)
alex jones hacked them
OP did not Epstein himself.
Stop it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂they aren't that smart @@XPro72
Reminder that 4chan ruined Mitchell Henderson's family's lives for literally no reason
You know it's bad when even Black Hats on Forums are like WTF Dude . But as we see again not keeping up your Security can have consequences
They are script kiddies but yeh I get Ur message
not covering for smol. hats has consequences
i thought they're using cloudflare though
@@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU yeah the smol hats are the ones who destroy the archive
Whoever they are, they just pissed off the one community they shouldn't piss off
> Presents self as black hat
> Speaks as if white hat
> Doesn't dump or auction data
> American writing style
> Doing rounds with media
Nothing glowing here folks..
> totally incoherent political attitude
> American writing style
yep, that's a median voter!
Honestly though the only motive that makes sense is someone who was trying to make everyone aware of the security issues so that it's safe from future attacks.
If someone actually had bad intentions they wouldn't have done it this way
Obviously it was the Russians
>thinking people are black hat or white hat like a video-game
>forgets greyhats exist.
Vandalizing a graveyard. Truly the lowest of low.
@@SFVYachtClub every single time.
Tiny hats
well said.
@@midnightclub7629think it was the bankers? what interest would they have in taking it out? all the mirrors of anti israeli content, non mainstream politics, stuff like that, also it ruins their profits and threatens their depiction of history. Those are all points they'd use to take it out but if they were gonna do that they'dve done that by now, it's probably corpos, but hey it's feasible
Yup,it's definitely election time.
That's what I think too. Harris is worthless and this screams cheating to me
Very good point
@@TheDeepSeaCreature Even better point being the Democrats control the government right now...
In which country?
@@siddhubhai2508 USA
The fact that the security was so weak to the point that nobodies lowlife hackers could hack into it, yet it took so long for them to finally get hacked just shows how much respect everyone has for Internet Archive. Targeting the only archive of the Internet is just a new low.
(it pretty obviously was not just some yobbos)
No one targetted it because of less worth not more respect
There are other archives
honestly. leaving a .git is pretty embarrassing. if that was one of the vectors... well let's just say that a lot of people who learn hacking will know to look for those even if they are not experienced
@@薹 no one hacked it because its the equivalent of modern day library of alexandria
The Internet Wayback Machine and the file archives aren't just for fun. It's court evidence, books and other media you can't get anywhere else, educational resources that were originally taken down etc. I know the word can't be reclaimed, but at least don't call these twats "hackers".
They literally are hackers, dude. Idk what to tell you
@@wolfy6631don't generalize hackers like that lol
@@SurabBarve I'm not generalizing them 💀
That is false. Its just free, centralized access.
Theres even books on there that have been unavailable EVERYWHERE due to people destroying every last one of them. Literaly lost knowledge or history
Something is fishy about this whole situation. Either the site admins have NO CLUE how to secure their own website or they're in on the problem.
Taking a slow fall , probably friends and family being threatened
They haven't even e-mailed people to say that their email addresses and passwords have been stolen - if some people are using the same passwords on other sites, it could be very damaging for them.
or they're really up against people who with the resources to get what they want no matter the cost. many corporate or nation state backed groups have virtually infinite money and a giant stash of zero days at their disposal to the point that trying to keep them out is futile no matter how good your security and security practices are.
@@SuperPupperDoggo Look at how this breach occurred. They were even told directly exactly what the issue was. And it was in fact quite trivial. They took zero action. Zero action takes zero resources.
Almost certainly they are part of it. The Archive admins have been purging content their friends and family don't like for YEARS, there is not much integrity there to begin with, so we're not actually losing that much here. That all the twats who deleted pages from the Archives got their identities compromised is just the cherry on top.
What those scumbags get hacking such an important library?
Power by erasing knowledge.
pretty sure that they get more controversy than the GTA leak, which is the same amount of insanity and they might've not suited to the society itself.
attention
Being paid by companies who really value copyright laws not changing.
Strange how all these hacks have a side effect of empowering the current power structure.
This smells of state-sponsored/corporate-sponsored attackers...but I am really disappointed in IAs failure to take security seriously
I hope we have backups somewhere...
What is the point of a conspiracy theory when they already have the conspiracy complete?
You don't even have to work at these entities anymore as long as you still have access to your email and they will remove whatever you tell them to.
There are people who have been getting things removed just because they still have a Google email address despite not having worked there for years.
Just like Facebunk and Twatter, the government and companies don't need to do anything except send the archive an email and tell them to take it down.
At a bare minimum, we have IA's geocities archive available in several places.
during election season? gee, i wonder...
Who said they're American?
@@falconeshield Who says they aren't? Also the U.S election affects the entire world.
@@falconeshield many governments have an interest in trump so it wouldn't surprise me
thing is, who is this going to affect? most of the voters have no clue what IA even is, let alone care, and let alone think about it in any political way
Given that the Trump campaign had plenty of time for people to look at the archives, there's only one party that could have the motivation, the one who had a new candidate appear out of nowhere.
Attacking internet archive is equivalent to attacking a news station that’s there to record, you don’t do it and it’ll make you look bad in everyone’s eyes
But who’s “you”?
Tho is a wake up call. We should start hoarding.
Comparing them to journos is kind of mean, even if they selectively archive theyre still better than propagandists lol.
this is like stabbing the nice old man giving out free books on the side of the street and thinking your cool
You'd think the internet would join together and do the opposite to protect whats left.
Enough said.
I just want old footage
I want old books! It's bad enough the Corpo Mafia extended copyright claims to almost a century. In my healthy suspicion, their ultimate goal is erasing the past (except for paid subscribers who gets the choice to 'borrow' a sanitized package).
i want bill jensen reuploads
Tapes
shape world 4
I should have saved those research pdfs whilst IA was still up
Willing to bet it's people being paid by big corpos and such.
Yup. I don't smell governments, I smell greedy copyright interest groups.
My money is on whoever was suing the Archive in the first place. Whenever this information eventually comes to light, I have a pretty strong hunch that those people just decided to fuck with the Archive rather than fight them in court - and that is a VERY SERIOUS extra-judicial escalation. That’s taking matters into your own hands rather than letting them play out in court, and the word for that is *”vigilantism.”*
It’s not okay.
Nah, they have archives of dirt on Harris
@@thespider7898Nah it's the Epstein flight logs so we can find out why Trump, Bill Gates, & Bill Clinton were all on them
I agree.
I wouldn't have finished my PhD dissertation without Internet Archive. There are literally dozens of primary and secondary texts I couldn't have accessed without either paying a ridiculous amount of money for a scan or printing a PDF from IA. It's hard to understate how important having a free, central, and independent node of knowledge is to society.
Keep offline archives of your data folks. This is going to happen again and again, and one day we will not have an online archive at all. Remember disk swapping? If you don't, you'll find out what that was (again) in a few years.
All the world's cyber security experts should unite and offer hand to the Internet Archive.
At least half of the world's cybersecurity experts would prefer it to stay down. The state funded half.
No one cares.
@@Terigena Why?
Nah, more people should just make seperate archives so this cant happen again.
@@thespider7898 Good idea, you can set an example for others by hosting 1 petabyte over 10 GBit connection from your home.
It could've been so much unbelievably worse, so I'm glad it isn't. It's clear to me that the hacker is extremely disappointed and upset at the Internet Archive's state of affairs, and their intent is to get them to harden their security.
We. Cannot. Afford. To lose the Internet Archive. It'd be like burning down the second fucking Library of Alexandria! And everybody knows how that went down in history: an unambiguously, uncontroversially absolute catastrophe, and a most unfortunate, grave loss for all of humanity. It'd be an exercise in the utmost insanity to allow yet another biggest library in the world to be destroyed again.
Perhaps, or maybe they want to inspire others to make serious competition so that archives arent such a vulnerable monoculture.
The library of Alexandria wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.
From what I’ve read the library of Alexandria suffered not one burning but multiple and by time of its final end most of the stuff wasn’t even there. could be wrong though, that’s just what I remember.
These hacks glow.
@AnonymousQwerty delulu
@@F.M671 😂
indeed
@AnonymousQwerty That would be too obvious, now wouldn't it?
sus af
People need to store historical videos on SD drives that are not plugged into a computer.
They're going to erase history.
solid state drives degrade when not plugged in :)
@@hikkamorii
I've got SD cards from 20 years ago that work fine. I'm talking about preserving information not gaming or graphics.
@@RicArmstrong And I'm also not talking about that. Transistor gates on NAND flash will eventually loose charge if not powered.
@@RicArmstrong writing digital data to tapes is better idea, even google stores their backups that way
@@RicArmstrong thats because there slc nand. modern multilayered flash has less resilience to unpowered corruption. this is jsut because the price of flash hasnt decreased nearly fast enough for the capacity gains, and so they were used to improve capacity. additionally, controllers are able to mitigate this type of corruption when powered on
its too bad that the m-disc bluray production ceased. but even standard bd-rs (rws of all kinds rot way faster and easier) will last longer than an ssd.
people suggesting tapes but like honestly, the price doesnt seem that great. and also the format changes and liek they break backwards compat. idk
I like to look at the bright side of things. Hopefully they use this as an opportunity to increase their operational security and website resilience. They likely still have all the data and can restore it in full.
These things cost money
I don’t have access to their financials but I could see them receiving an uptick in donations due to their recent turmoil.
@@noderunner_I’ve heard they get $30m in revenue. Maybe around 4mil in profit
@@noderunner_ They are currently facing immense legal trouble with publishers and already lost a lawsuit for which the damages they have to pay are way beyond their budget already. They most definitely cannot invest the money into upgrading their security
I hope so too. That they can rebuild IA stronger and get more donations.
My schizo theory is the powers that be don’t want anyone looking anything up pre-2020.
I mean, it’s not as if the news won’t edit an article or a film won’t be edited to add current day things or history changed…
1984 ?
this isnt as crazy as it sounds
Powers that be: lets edit everything retroactively to change history!
My physical magazines from 1946:
theyre actually erasing 2020-2022 era stuff because they want to repeat the nonsense cough and don't want any fact checking. People are already forgetting
What powers that be? How could this possiby work? have you simply forgotten physical media exists?
This the internet version of burning down the library of alexandria
Difference being the archive has a good couple libraries of Alexandria worth of data on it 😂
and the annex of alexandria that burned was largely empty, the texts that remained there being trite that was unworthy of placement elsewhere
THIS ITS SO SCARY TO THINK ABOUT??
luckily all the data isn't just gone
Still not.
just when I was surfing youtube and looking at all the trash, finally someone decent uploads :D
The content is Based and Intelligent. A hard to fill niche
You have Based position brother
Bruh
watch Peter Knetter
He who controls the past controls the future.😅
@@CopperCooper420 it was supposed to be contained in a video game!
Thats my biggest gripe with them, they archive selectively. They dont archive contraversial things, and take down archives on request.
@@thespider7898 I've downloaded several "controversial" books from them.
Don't let them feel powerful, that's all they really want out of life... its sad. With that being said, I hope this hacker thinks about just how much this is seriously affecting people and understand why history is so important to begin with. If they ever see this comment, I hope you understand that basically the entire internet is either disappointed or hates you right now, because we know you can be a lot better than this.
that's so sad. so bad.. is like destroying something needed beautiful for the sake of defacing it.
there's degrees of penetration testing response that shoud to be followed from important companies. Oh well, I suppose that was their collective reports forwarded beginning from 2018.
sacred ground, indeed. powerful entities benefit from distribution of this collective data log.
Thank GOD i downloaded all the files i might need from the internet archive years ago because i saw all this crap coming
I didn't see this coming as much as I believed at some point they'd get sued and close, or just willingly close. Not this.
Same, Im glad I have my free PDF books
If the same thing ever happened to this app, MILLIONS of people would lose their s! The sky will be falling 😅
This is most likely an inside job by a three or six letter agency, oldschool hackers don't exist anymore, and this hack is just nonsensical.
Not to mention most old school hackers are for freedom of the common person against potentially oppressive parties, such as corporations and governments.
If anything, the old school hackers would be doing side work to protect the internet archive.
@@r.b.ratieta6111 this!
It's not hard for some kid somewhere to learn this stuff. You don't have to be a 60 year old retired IBM software engineer.
This is not hacking. It is terrorism.
Internet Archive is a public service of immense value. Hope they get their security in order soon. In the meantime, I will be making a donation in support of this.
From the tone of the email, and the hacker giving info to security things, i think the hacker that breached it was trying to get them to fix it before its too late
If it was gov, they would have been quiet
If it was a random hackerman, there is no-one selling the info to people
That’s what i’m thinking. Hacked so IA gets their shit together in the future considering how important the site is.
Any time an archive is missing it’s the big guys reclaiming information that they can use against us for later. They want it for web3
there is a dude that mirrored petabytes of internet archive, we have hope atleast.
what's his name...
lol how long it did take for him to save 15pb? does he have 1tbps connection?
@@alexanderbohlen5923I like your pfp
They should open source the internet archive to let everyone else fix their security issues
Yes man, this solution is too good.
I don't see how that could possibly go wrong...
@@IDontModWTFz Well, it could be better than this tbf, look the XZ case for example (Although yeah, there can be more insidious attacks going in that and other open source projects).
@@IDontModWTFz Well if twitter/the-algorithm or Winamp are anything to go by the trolls asking to rewrite it in rust will get bored after a few months
@@doomtrooper3184 we can actually use ai for this (good use of ai) it can detect hidden character or malicious code hidden or embedded into the pull request
I was pretty mad about the IA attack because I’ve used the way back machine to recover files that a local corrupt politician deleted to hide his investment disclosures from the public, along with other projects. Now that I know the hackers went after the source code and Tb of other data… I’m kind of wondering if someone is planing to make a new version of the system to ensure the archiving still happens. They have been getting sued into the ground by the brick and mortar institutions after all.
If you hack the Internet Archive maybe you deserve to be caught by the feds
You most likely are a fed lmao
@@rodi8266"Everyone I don't like is a fed"
They probably are feds
@@PeruvianPotato i dunno that sounds like something a fed would say
@@lilpisser124 Or maybe the guy is just expressing his distaste toward the situation in general? This is what only using the internet as a form of human communication will do to a man.
This is no troll.
Unless you consider international interest control groups "trolls"
The fact they sent out emails mocking them for not changing credentials even after the breach tells me this was not a professional 'hit' job.
The simple XSS silly message already screams script kiddie.
Same. Meanwhile people are going wild and blatantly anti Semitic with their crazy theories
Maybe they did that just to not look professional or state-sponsored?
this seems more logical than the people here saying its the elites taking down history, if they wanted to do that they wouldn't publicly announce that they just hacked IA. or better yet, they wouldn't send an email to them, or leave any traces at all.
@@justwatching6118 Exactly! People are so naive
5:11 "Random guy" sounds like a group wants us to think it's one person. It's the media companies.
Others beat me to it already, but DDoS'ing the archive really is like bombing a food bank. On one end of the spectrum there's the 'victimless crime', and on the other hand there's this, a crime with no benefits and only victims.
Don't think these unknowns can even call themselves hackers atp...
It was the feds, it was definitely the feds.
then why would they make a JS message and write an email to them? use your brain here
@@Mr._Mythical nice try Mr CIA I’m still not giving up the location of tomar’s chaos emeralds
Thats what they do. Its always the rulers and thier strong arms.
@@Mr._Mythical So that you suspect someone else. Use your brain here.
@@VegetoStevieD if you even think it was the government, then it wasn't them
We need a decentralized storage of the internet archive data. Something like torrent network or probably like bitcoin's blockchain technology.
This
Arweave is a chain for data archive.
Nintendo and the Government. 🐿️
Somehow I believe this
Google benefits the most out of this.
The Abrahamist's have burnt down the digital library of alexander. Imagine my shock
@@GlasbanGorm is it bigger than their hats?
@@hodumxtheir hats are strangely small
@@vans617 it's not about the size of the hat, it's about the kvetching with the shekeling.
Internet archive is where I watched a lot of the documentaries that show "the wrong side of history", great place for the likes of Ernst Zundel and Tom Metzger content. I wouldn't be surprised if that was a partial motivation.
Looks like you didn't even use the Internet Archives recourses of you think that Christians burnt the Library of Alexandria, it was your precious pagans who did that. Call out the real problem for who they are, but I guess that would be too antisemitic huh?
stuff needs putting on optical and other types of hard media, even things like records or those new type of floppy disk things that hold like 50 TB
When has a floppy disk ever been able to hold 50TB 😅
If it happens three or more times it's enemy action.
Its probably people hired by the entertainment industry or publishers
Seems such a weird thing to attack
It's gotta be a psyop.
@@VioFax maybe something with election, maybe theres something they dont want people to discover
Weird unless you'd want to delete historical documents...
Control the past, control the future
Control the media, control the people
This won't make news :/
@@LeftyPencilIt’s been in many news articles already though, lol
They won’t be LOLing when their pictures and address of everyone they love are all public but hey, they like attacking a service that serves a general good for the public so it’s free game.
There's something in there that someone wants burried
With all that’s going on right now at this moment in time, that doesn’t surprise me.
They did have a lot of dirt on Harris, Amazon took down a book about her but I read it on the Internet Archive
"it must be the people I don't like that did it!"
Absolute baffoon.
@@CarrotConsumer *buffoon 🫠
@@CarrotConsumer or did you mean *baboon?
It wouldn't surprise me if it's glowies or the legal team of those scummy companies hiring a hacker. It doesn't seem like most people wanted to hack the Internet Archive even if they could.
Though that does make me wonder why a white hat or grey hat didn't find and disclose these vulnerabilities sooner if it's being knowingly insecure for so long.
Why don't hackers ever target the IRS?
Wow, I visited their website like two days ago. Now I know why nothing showed. I think it would be highly problematic if they actually kept those personal documentation pictures in a database somewhere instead of removing them. Reminds me of the time the Belgian province of Limburg got hacked. They also had a bunch of sensitive data needlessly stored in a vulnerable database that was apparently not supposed to be connected to the internet anymore.
not changing the api keys makes it glow
One must ask Cui Bono? Who benefits from all this? -it ain’t the basement dwellers on Breach…
Kinda saw this coming. Whole site ran light garbage since forever and I just assumed it was run by low quality IT people.
im pretty sure the performance just has to do with IA having maybe dial-up internet speeds
the Internet Archive must be protected at all costs.
its obvious that the person responsible isnt REALLY a threat actor, they are just dumping on them for having dumpy security - the way they type is like a guy that tried to warn them several times that this is an issue and that they need to fix it but they didn't listen, like a fed up dad. people saying they accomplished nothing are completely wrong, they accomplished making the IA admins a complete laughing stock and maybe they will stop being so bad at their job
When i do research and investigate things I use the internet archive for some things. I can't imagine what operations involving investigative or education purposes were halted or put on pause due to these hacks. Honestly horrible for people to hack the Internet archive of all things. I hope they get things fixed.
No one needs to hack it because they censor their so-called archive themselves in the first place. They are trash not worth defending.
They're like being handed a dictionary where someone ripped out all the pages with mean words on them. Garbage not worth your time.
Choose your flavor of who possibly could have hacked IA: Hachette Book Group, HarperCollins, Penguin Random House, and Wiley. All of these publisher's are currently suing them. I'm sure there are plenty of people who want to see free information not be free anymore.
love your content, been watching it for years. please keep putting out amazing stuff like this.
Makes me wonder how much power book publishers have in the world...
Scholastic was a Jewish ran publisher, the main educational books in my school and the things they misrepresented and promoted in those "educational" books are complete revisionist history. Funny how they got a government contract for all that.
Not much anymore
Giant media companies that own book publishers could afford to hire hackers if they really wanted to.
*Thank you for your favourable mention of HIPB.*
2024 is the worst year in internet history, every year we keep embracing the "Dead Internet" theory.
I think its a good way to show their flaw in security.
Whilst the site is amazing for transparency and investigating deleted stuff, it also needs to keep data protected from governments and or private entities. something which was now shown it did not.
This will hopefully allow them to fix these issues now.
Ofc something like this might have been able to be solved in closed doors, but that can come with different issues such ass it being ignored by the company, but to each their own.
Someone burns down a library, and apparently someone sympathetic to the people of palestine claims involvement.
I think this points to the true perpetrators.
Some bigger hacker group should get down tracking these dudes and show them how ridiculous they are
Was one my favorite site for getting old software and drivers will miss it.
There are many actors at play whose interest is to destroy these endeavours.
It doesn't make sense for the Internet Archive's security to be this poor, especially with just how important it is.
Locks only keep honest people honest, there needs to be more than one archive.
It does, they have been struggling with funding for years unfortunately
2:34 btw that's real. i used the same password for like 50 less important websites and social media accounts. ~15 of them got hacked the first day and started uploading some strange fortnite cheats ads on my account. fortunately i didn't lose anything important and i now use keepas and 2 factor auth for important things
Now we need the internet archive archive 😭😭
If the data of the wayback machine had been lost, it would have been a loss greater than the Library of Alexandria (in terms of cultural value, not in terms of raw book quantity - that's actually pretty common for a national library these days)
How does illegal to contact employees for outages work? That sounds like a horrible idea if i work for a team that manages healthcare infrastructure.
So it's illegal for me to stop hackers from stealing patient data?
In some places, if you need to have someone on call 24/7 they need extra compensation. An org like IA might not have a dedicated security team on call, it gets expensive.
You should have on call employees for such things.
@@pacifico4999 Which does make sense since you can't just expect that you just stop living or having a weekend just so your boss can call you without compensation.
My mom had an account on that site and guess what the password there was the same as my mom's digital wallet account. Bit scary, but yeah on the same day when the news spread (through fireship) my mom changed the password instantly and yeah we successfully survived otherwise my mom's 10 years struggle (literally 10 years) would go into the hell.
Definetely feels like election season.
I thought that when i see the news before i said why on public library of all things, but their target wasn't the site it was the user credentials lol
I was literally wondering why I couldn't access it. This so horrible!
Why don’t google provide them support, they could use the billing for the support as a tax write off since this could count as helping non profit ?
The internet archive saved my ass in College. My professor for analysis of algorithms used to post the midterm solutions to his class website after the midterm was done. The older class pages were always archived and accessible and but he just made the old tests not accessible publicly ud get a 404, only current semesters midterm was available. The issue came up because if you put the URL for past semesters midterm in the wayback machine you could see and download the entire midterm and most of the time it was a very similar question.
So you cheated?
@@obsidianjane4413 those types of tests only test rote memorization not competence. If something hard and not well taught is on a test, prepare them for it smh.
@@IiiiIiiIllIl You are assuming. More likely he just didn't want to do the work.
God forbid you get any use out of those student loans.
@@obsidianjane4413 yea, I am. Because if you live in America and you feel the need to "cheat" on a test, it's usually because the teachers didn't fully prepare you for what is on the test. I've seen it, I've heard about it, and I've experienced it. The mindset of "do your own reading" that profs use is literally the epitome of laziness and isn't justifiable to me or most people paying massive heaps of cash to these institutions.
My friend’s discord got hacked a few hours after the breach, and he instantly went to change all his passwords because they were all the same lol
We need to archive the archive
This is just so bad, people are accusing inernet acrhive for doing absolutely nothing bad. And its also a non-profit company. I use internet archive every day and now i can't.
Very unprofessional tbh, they didn’t need to put up an alert or send out emails. They could’ve sent an email to everyone that maintains AI and kept it under wraps. They wanted the attention.
The person who put up the alert was in the original hacking group (so wouldn't bother letting IA management know anyway), and the guy who sent out the email appears to simply have been someone who used part of the leaked DB to warn a lot of people that the Archive hadn't got their shit together yet.
Only a bit of a coincidence that these hacks happen while powerful and rich companies are trying to get internet archive shut down...
i’m glad i downloaded TempleOS before this happened 🎊
Its also on GitHub in several places
some people out there hates being held accountable when you can find old deleted articles
Imagine, you found the security weakness of the charitable organization. Instead of privately contacting organisation, you make the public statement about their weaknesses. Thus exposing that weakness, instead of patching it secretly with organisation, so nobody would know about said weakness!
Also you get clout as "good" and "honourable" hacker, because you are "helping". What a hipocrisy, wow.
I saw this idea on this website, that the hack is done by the archive itself to exfiltrate their own data, so it won't be lost due to all those lawsuits they're facing. The source is a random other UA-cam comment, because I am smart
Just hope IA comes back online as quick as possible :)
I really hate the hacker people messing with the Internet Archive bruh
they think they are linus tech tips
4:33 it doesn't seem to me like this is coming from the same place as the original breach. It seems like a third party who got access to the leak and wanted to get word out that things aren't to be trusted again yet
Unless your data is in a Faraday cage it can be hacked.
on an optical disk?
Punchcards?
I think this hack is actually a good thing for transparency on the internet. The IAs security practices are so poor that threat actors could have been surreptisiously been modifying the data in the archive and been unnoticed. Hopefully they take security more seriously after this.