Canvas Priming Methods Used by the Old Masters

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  • How did the old masters stretch and primed their canvases? Join me live as I discuss the various priming methods used by painters from the 16th through the 17th century.
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    What is a double oil ground?
    How were the canvases stretched?
    What materials were used to prime canvases?
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  • @gibsonflyingv2820
    @gibsonflyingv2820 Рік тому +9

    Cruel and sick that your videos, unmatched with in depth information including scientific basis mixed with history and satisfying visual demonstrations, Don't ever give up. You deserve 1 million subscribers, not 20 k

  • @chrisgriffith1573
    @chrisgriffith1573 16 днів тому

    Thank you for this information. I am using it to apply it to my own panel making ventures, making them more archival and add better performance at the same time. I make my own PVA gesso- but even before than I use PVA to secure the canvas to the panel, and make the ground far more rigid, and improve the strength and stability of the panel too. Bridging the PVA from glue to gesso in steps, allowing the ground to remain far better at the topmost layers while introducing the properties best suited for the oil to bind into.

  • @doddagopi4933
    @doddagopi4933 Рік тому +7

    You are a professional of a different standard. You are from the fundamentals. Your videos are a definite research materials. Thanks a lot for posting such wonderful & educational videos on oil painting. Hope all artists learn the amount if effort, that had gone into the oil paintings from the day it all started. Your videos bring out these facts in a striking way. Thanks a lot

  • @nicaraguaart5172
    @nicaraguaart5172 2 роки тому +8

    Gracias Maestro, he aprendido mucho con sus videos, constantemente se vuelven cada vez más interesantes, incluso coleccionables de cara a la formación pictórica y el amplio conocimiento sobre los antiguos maestros de la pintura. Mi agradecimiento y admiración por su loable labor.

  • @pastorrewelacostarivera
    @pastorrewelacostarivera 2 роки тому +2

    Saludos desde Arecibo, Puerto Rico. Dios bendiga tu talento. Gracias por compartir tu conocimiento y experiencia.

  • @elisafinch1325
    @elisafinch1325 Рік тому

    Thank you dear Luis Borero,help me a lot..God bless you...Cielito..Artist of fine Arte...from California..

  • @innakapitun
    @innakapitun Рік тому +1

    Thank you for a very interesting material and a huge thank you for your support. Greetings from Ukraine 💙💛

  • @stephenrose1343
    @stephenrose1343 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Luis, I finally found the time to watch this long awaited installment on your excellent series on old master techniques. I was interested to see you string a canvas on a strainer and use your priming knife.
    One advantage of stringing the canvas, is that you don't get the canvas stuck to the stretcher when you apply the rabbit skin glue. This can be a nuisance, as it allows the primer to strike through to the point of contact with the stretcher. I have found it necessary to release the back of the canvas from the face of the stretcher, by running a plastic kitchen spatula along it. Or, taking it off and restretching it.
    Many years ago I was given a recipe, by a theatrical scene painter, for a half chalk ground, which gives a little more flexibility to the initial priming.
    Essentially, after your two coats of size has dried, take your dry materials (calcium carbonate, pigment) mix them together, make a well, pour in some prepared size, then float a measure of linseed oil on the top, 1 part oil to 3 part size. Fold in and mix to a paste, then add additional size to make a creamy
    mixture. I used a metal developing tray, which I could keep warm,, to contain the Primer. I have successfully used this method for many years on larger canvases.
    Thank you for your videos, they have greatly added to my knowledge of old master techniques.

  • @rojoartkid4043
    @rojoartkid4043 Рік тому

    Thank you very much Luis. I'm very glad I came across your channel

  • @jbaumun
    @jbaumun 2 роки тому

    Fascinating . My interest in Vermeer has just increased 10-fold . I'll revisit this you tube subject many many times , to be sure . Thank you for posting .

  • @chrisgriffith1573
    @chrisgriffith1573 12 днів тому

    The knife used for spreading gesso- or double ground... The curved edge of the blade isn't only for reaching out over the side, actually, it isn't for that purpose at all. It is used in a way that allows the user to spread to the inside of the canvas and not have a sharp line at the edge of the material being spread, thusly, the inside of the canvas is always being face by the curved side of the knife, also, the spreading of the material is done not while the canvas is on the easel, but flat on a work table so as to allow the artist to rotate the canvas to keep the knife facing inward into the center of the canvas. By doing this, the artist can smoothly transition the medium to all parts of the canvas with no discernable lines or breaks. The knife they used was a hammered piece of iron, not so thinly made, and very much a rigid tool. The efficiency is linked to the way the tool is used and its shape. Also- linseed oil dries faster and more totally than walnut oil in the same amount of time, and for this beginning layer- that is critical. In addition to this- sizing- or gluing the rim outside of the holes to insure that pullout didn't happen due to some imperfections in the weave of the fabric was often done, then stretching. It has been found in tests by Rublev (recently) that the brightness of a pigment or color within a body of paint or ground can affect lightfastness in surrounding pigments, so- titanium white can affect the lifetime of other pigment it is mixed with... all due to the refracted and bounced light within the oil film enhances the UV effect on the oil medium, and on the pigments too. So the problems can extend into the groundwork as well, how much the ground is bouncing light into the rest of the painting.

  • @eduardoventura1704
    @eduardoventura1704 2 роки тому +2

    Buenas tardes maestro, esta clase se hizo esperar bastante, pero sus seguidores siempre estamos pendientes de sus actualizaciones. Muchas gracias por este excelente video.

  • @khadigaalbalady911
    @khadigaalbalady911 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much, for adding the Arabic translation

  • @KoshNaranick
    @KoshNaranick 5 місяців тому +1

    please do a video where you show the actual process from making the canvas, stretching then putting on the different grounds... I guess you will need several canvas'.. love your work!!

  • @TheJoan48
    @TheJoan48 9 місяців тому

    Glad I found you. I watch the BBC series, Fake or Fortune. They were studying two paintings, one by Thomas Lawrence and one by Moriah Cosway. Mr. Lawrence's painting is like new and Mrs. Cosway's is full of cracks. Both are made in the same time frame, about 1760 or so. That made me realize I need to learn alot more than I know. I'm simply buying pre-primed canvases and not priming them myself at all. I see the error of my ways now after watching your video. I want to paint on smooth surfaces and have my work look new in the future. Thanks for this video. I'm a new fan. Joan Williamson

  • @vittoriobeghelli3561
    @vittoriobeghelli3561 Рік тому

    Thank you for the advices! Also very cool knife :)

  • @HimmelsscheibeNebra
    @HimmelsscheibeNebra 2 роки тому

    I just love this video, which is in my opinion a masterpiece of art motivation videos. Such a well-presented and profound craftsmanship and knowledge. Thank you for the great work and for keeping tradition in high esteem and for making us curious to learn about and reconnect to the tradition.

  • @bjn7242
    @bjn7242 2 роки тому +7

    Hallo Luis, Sebastian here from Amsterdam. Thank you for mentioning Ukraine, that touched my heart. Could you continue to show the process of the double ground, up to an underpainting? It does not make sense to me to cover the brown completely with a gray. I suspect that the gray of the second layer found in cross sections was not priming, but underpainting in white and umber or earth colors, with the first brown coming through in shadows and acting as a complementary color for cool colors of the underpainting. As an art historian I have seen many of such underpaintings. Willem Kalf his paintings of farm interiors for instance. So can you explain about the pictorial function of the gray priming layer please? Thank you for all your efforts and for your wonderful kindness to share your findings with us!

    • @ArielGulluni78
      @ArielGulluni78 2 роки тому +1

      Remember that even Rembrandt some times bought pre primed canvas. some times that double ground could be only the brown original version plus one more selected by the artist.

  • @KlinikSygeplejersken
    @KlinikSygeplejersken 3 місяці тому

    Wonderful and very helpful video. Thank you.

  • @ArtbyJasonABell
    @ArtbyJasonABell 2 роки тому +2

    …great presentation as usual 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @borist6210
    @borist6210 2 роки тому

    Excelente explicación desde la historia de matariales, pintura, imprimación, etc... muchos aspectos que no vi durante toda la carrera de artes !!! Muchas gracias Maestro !!

  • @josvanr
    @josvanr 4 місяці тому

    Hello! I'm looking for the video where you show how to use this stretching method, but can't find it. Can you post a link? Thnx for all the great videos btw!

  • @fernandogaleano6124
    @fernandogaleano6124 2 роки тому

    Excelente video... Lleno de datos profundos de investigación, condensados en pocos minutos.. Gracias

  • @ramkumarsunuwar8408
    @ramkumarsunuwar8408 Рік тому

    very knowledgeable video , thank you so much sir.

  • @louielouie4187
    @louielouie4187 Рік тому

    Thank you
    Amazing job, you are much appreciated

  • @simaturna9765
    @simaturna9765 2 роки тому

    By subscribing to your channel I made my day Thank you sir 🙏

  • @stephenfularz7573
    @stephenfularz7573 Рік тому

    Good information on preparing canvases.

  • @aureliosalvador3152
    @aureliosalvador3152 2 роки тому

    Excelente explicación e información maestro, es una joya en medio de un océano de desinformación, su canal es muy didáctico e informativo con mucha investigación que su servidor agradece mucho, le deseo el mayor de los éxitos en esta titánica empresa👍

  • @fathyzin6470
    @fathyzin6470 2 роки тому

    Wonderful explanation! Great informative! Thank You!

  • @Divertedflight
    @Divertedflight 2 роки тому +1

    One thing that I noticed in priming, is that there's little advantage in using a double primed lead ground on a very coarse linen, and by that I mean 2x lead ground not what you've done. When scaping the first white layer down into the weave the high darker linen points show through the paint. It's actually better to have a mid tone first priming closer to the tone of the linen. Any linen weave spots that might ghost through this mid tone are basically irrelevant because they're about the same as this paint layer anyway.

  • @hazmaouini6291
    @hazmaouini6291 Рік тому

    Thank you Sir very informative 🖌️🙏

  • @wesleythomas8009
    @wesleythomas8009 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. I'm always appreciative of your UA-cam videos. I love the song choice for your demonstration section, by the way. Very inspiring.

    • @LuisBorreroVisualArtist
      @LuisBorreroVisualArtist  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for visiting the channel and commenting Wesley! I love the music as well. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @camilopalomino8319
    @camilopalomino8319 2 роки тому

    Increíble el proceso y los resultados de tu investigación inmersiva. Muchas gracias por compartir, que tengas éxito con el curso 👍👍👍

  • @bryanmartin9420
    @bryanmartin9420 Рік тому

    Thank you so much!

  • @Florian_Ionescu
    @Florian_Ionescu 9 місяців тому

    very useful information, I appreciate your knowledge! Greetings!

  • @joebrann4612
    @joebrann4612 Рік тому

    Yes, I saw one of his paintings here in N.C. beautiful work. It had tons of cracks in it tho

  • @cuentamedenuevo7399
    @cuentamedenuevo7399 2 роки тому

    Muchas gracias por el magnífico video, Maestro Borrero. Me encantó ver el lienzo tensado. Se me antoja incluso para dejarlo montado así en algún trabajo. Se me ocurre que se podría proteger la cuerda tal como se protege el lienzo (rsg + bases o gesso, etc) para evitar pronta degradación. Saludos desde Alemania.

    • @cuentamedenuevo7399
      @cuentamedenuevo7399 2 роки тому

      Por cierto, Maestro Borrero, es prácticamente una frase célebre de usted, y algo con lo que concuerdo al 100%, “old paintings age gracefully, as all organic materials do…”. Es hermoso y es parte de la vida. Es parte de formar parte de un proceso natural y de la historia! Dios lo siga bendiciendo. Saludos nuevamente desde Alemania.

  • @SaltyThinker
    @SaltyThinker Рік тому +1

    would you ever make some of your custom made materials available to purchase in your website, like the palette knife or the Rembrandt lead white?

  • @533nicky
    @533nicky Рік тому +1

    Hello, I was wondering whether you have any advice about expanding painting by sewing extra canvases together? How could one hide the seam?

  • @jaybennett5639
    @jaybennett5639 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Luis, fantastic video as always.....did you get cusping or scalloping around the edges? I try & encourage my customers, if interested, to watch your channel, thanks again.

  • @janzawadzki132
    @janzawadzki132 2 роки тому

    Thank you sir! I would like to hear also about technique of Tintoretto please:)

  • @gasperettiarts
    @gasperettiarts 2 роки тому

    Absolutely awesome channel 👌👌

  • @JuandePareja1650
    @JuandePareja1650 8 місяців тому

    Hello Luis, how are you? I hope very well... I wanted to ask you what type of fabric you use to paint? and which one would you recommend... thank you very much.

  • @leilalagren
    @leilalagren 2 роки тому +1

    Great , where do you buy rabbit glue? And so amazing ground it is , want to do

  • @Martha-km1of
    @Martha-km1of 2 місяці тому

    Where do you buy the dry pigments? Thank you.

  • @Badjus96
    @Badjus96 Рік тому

    Hello luis, priceless information!
    What are your thoughts on synthetic canvas like acrylic/polyester fiber. Where I'm it is incredibly difficult to obtain linen and cotton is too stretchy i find. Also what are your thoughts on using boiled linseed oil from the hardware store is it suitable for the ground layer? I only can only find refined linseed oil where i live and it takes so long to dry.
    Thank you 🙏

  • @wilsonconvictor
    @wilsonconvictor 2 роки тому

    13:25 - some weeks ago I was looking on the internet for any video or text explaining or showing this old way of stretching the canvas and I could only find one text, that explained very little. I'm curious to see this!
    (By the way, I've already watched some videos of this channel, they are great!)

  • @jimqartworks
    @jimqartworks 2 роки тому

    awesome, thanks

  • @MrAmadeo1001
    @MrAmadeo1001 2 роки тому

    Hello Luis, wonderful presentation!
    May I ask, do you mix pigment with medium oil with dryer?

  • @jackdaly4258
    @jackdaly4258 2 роки тому

    Wonderful stuff Mr Borrero, have you had any experience recreating the techniques of Frans Hals?

  • @mr.someone52
    @mr.someone52 Рік тому

    Did they frame Canvas like that ( stretches by strings)? Or how did one tansfer it from a string frame to a stretching frame?.. i know the ones how we used where invented much later...how did that work ?

  • @emtnz1569
    @emtnz1569 8 місяців тому

    Las radiografías de muchos cuadros dejan entrever también un cuchillo muy similar al de uso actual. Ese cuchillo escalpelo tiene un uso más adecuado para las capas más subyacentes en preparciones mixtas. Se parece al que usaban los antiguos doradores para enrasar estucos.

  • @Zaggrippas
    @Zaggrippas Рік тому

    I heard that rabbit glue makes it more cracking over time. Perhaps its depend of how thick layiring

  • @TintaeArte
    @TintaeArte 2 роки тому

    Hi, I would like to know more about fabrics. is it worth using fabrics with current technologies, such as those that are resistant to water and sun? Wouldn't they be better than linen, for example?

  • @nbaath
    @nbaath 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much. Very good information. What proportion did you use for earth pigment and calcium carbonate?

    • @LuisBorreroVisualArtist
      @LuisBorreroVisualArtist  2 роки тому +1

      Hello NB: You can use any range from 10% to 70% percent. It all depends on your taste and what type of painting style you’re pursuing.

    • @nbaath
      @nbaath 2 роки тому

      Thank you so much. It will be great if you make a video on making ground. I don’t think there is any video on the net that show how to make a ground. Gracias 🙏

  • @leilalagren
    @leilalagren 2 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @victorroca3938
    @victorroca3938 2 роки тому

    Holaaaa Luis !!!!! Excelente Vídeo!!!! Por favor...Sácame de una DUDA. No quiero pintar sobre Bastidor, Ni sobre tabla. Quiero pintar sobre lienzo así como Viene. ¿Qué pasa si no "ESTIRO" el lienzo para Pintar? Es TAN NECESARIO "ESTIRARLO"? Le afectará con el paso de los Años??? Eso me preocupa porque quiero que mis pinturas perduren lo más que pueda en el Tiempo!!! Debo forzosamente ESTIRARLO!!!! 😀 Muchísimas Gracias 😊😊😊

  • @HimmelsscheibeNebra
    @HimmelsscheibeNebra 2 роки тому +1

    At 42:45 I got again the impression, that nothing can compete with lead white when it comes to traditional painting techniques. It seems to me that there is no other white that can compete with it. If it would not be so poisonous... But making own lead white with safety precautions and personal safety protection material such as a good mask, good hand gloves, good ventilation, careful handling when washing, grinding, and mixing to oil paint, would this not be achievable for making just enough white lead paint for own use? I am puzzled here, to be honest, but am also proud of my first lead carbonate oxidized/acidized/carbonized.

  • @fayee8986
    @fayee8986 Рік тому

    What is the name of your friend that created the design of the knife? If you would give us his name. And perhaps how to contact him. Thank you

  • @MsSme123
    @MsSme123 2 роки тому

    Where did you get the stone grinding stone?

  • @TomekTomek333
    @TomekTomek333 2 роки тому

    Can I dillute the oil ground a little bit with turpentine and aply it with brush?

  • @LinhHoang-mf4yl
    @LinhHoang-mf4yl Рік тому

    Excuse me sir, My canvas is Gesso canvas(primed five layers gesso already), so Can I apply some Calcium carbonate for ground? Thank you sir.

  • @kayasamuk
    @kayasamuk 2 роки тому

    Wooowww . 😍

  • @DuanTorruellas
    @DuanTorruellas Рік тому

    I heard Rembrandt used a red bole ground then a layer of gray then green.

    • @LuisBorreroVisualArtist
      @LuisBorreroVisualArtist  11 місяців тому

      There is plenty of scientific evidence to support that he used double grounds. You can find concrete information about the subject published by the National Gallery "Art in the Making Rembrandt." www.amazon.com/gp/product/1857093569?tag=kitco079-20&geniuslink=true

  • @millermashiyah7235
    @millermashiyah7235 2 роки тому

    Is the lead ground production recorded In your udemy course?

  • @artbylarry
    @artbylarry Рік тому

    😊

  • @lukdra
    @lukdra 2 роки тому

    Vengo por el canal de cesar Córdoba xd aunque no tengo materiales de pintura me encanta ver q haces xd

  • @navasabetimani7090
    @navasabetimani7090 2 роки тому

    Can we cover the work done with oil paint with gesso?

    • @LuisBorreroVisualArtist
      @LuisBorreroVisualArtist  2 роки тому

      Hello Nava: I don’t recommend this practice. It’s best to wet pumice the painting and reground the canvas with a thin layer of oil primer.

    • @navasabetimani7090
      @navasabetimani7090 2 роки тому

      Sure. Thank you 🙏💕

  • @NugatRensen
    @NugatRensen Рік тому

    instead of chalk , does gypsum work ?

  • @martinlobretto
    @martinlobretto 6 місяців тому

    What method of stretching canvas is this called?

  • @Mr960silva
    @Mr960silva 2 роки тому

    Don`t exist a substitute for a rabit skin glue, to make the background ?

  • @saulopaolo7496
    @saulopaolo7496 2 роки тому

    WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SONG? MIN. 35:40

    • @LuisBorreroVisualArtist
      @LuisBorreroVisualArtist  2 роки тому +1

      Hello Saulo: Here’s the song info. Classic Violins short 1 by Oleg Semenov.

    • @saulopaolo7496
      @saulopaolo7496 2 роки тому

      @@LuisBorreroVisualArtist thank you bro

  • @elisafinch1325
    @elisafinch1325 Рік тому +1

    If we need stard with what we have in the market ,what is the the best in material..fabric for canvas, wood frames, colors, do you sugested some company who sale natural pigment ,are not to spencil...how evalue our work,price, and ,frame more cheap and good..in the City of Modesto the galerie did want have the price of the money, they did care the cost for me to paint...some fraud Idid face..people want the paint for 20 dolars..etc..do you have some sugestion?...

    • @richardnolan3903
      @richardnolan3903 10 місяців тому

      Kremer Pigments have an excellent selection of historical and modern pigments. Earth pigments start at just $8 per kilo. In the US they are located in NY, but they'll ship to anywhere in the country, for a reasonable price.

  • @QQQQQman
    @QQQQQman Рік тому

    Badger softener to lay on rabbit skin glue?? Nah, use a hog hair bristle brush; save your badger for delicate work, they are much too expensive!

  • @fayee8986
    @fayee8986 Рік тому

    In addition I would like to add. If you would please be more attentive and how to stretch the canvas. Meaning how to do the string. Thank you

  • @Bright-It
    @Bright-It 2 роки тому

    Simplify.

  • @leobardocolinvilleda8993
    @leobardocolinvilleda8993 Рік тому

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥