Alien Coils at Full Speed: The Alien Makers (1200rpm)
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- How to use the Alien Makers:
A custom 3D printed Alien coil Jig
Works with 26g-28g wire and holds 3-4 cores flat
Used for making multi-core Fused Clapton Variations such as the "Alien Coil"
Available at subbiesjuice.com for $10.00
Easiest and Fastest way to make Alien coils!
I use the Black and Decker "Matrix" corded drill (1200rpm) with a sewing machine foot pedal.
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I'm going to place an order for both types of the alien makers Thursday from the UK. little gadgets like these are brilliant . Subscribed! Boosts consistency without taking away the fun of coil building.
Great vid Chris! Keep up the excellent work! I'll be sure to spread this around. ---Rich
Thanks for the video! Love the alien makers, definitely going to get some :-)
Amazing work and final product! Thanks for video
I just ordered mine a week ago or so. Looking forward to using them.
Okay. I'm not too proud to admit.. I was dead wrong about these. Wasn't utilizing them properly and now it's full speed, perfect aliens 95%+ of the time. I had my freehand way of doing it and it wasn't translating into the alien makers method. Friend from local shop showed me a tip (different mounting method into chuck and swivel) and now they work like I never imagined possible. I'm still a freehand lover, but these make any coil builders life a breeze if your having a crappy build day. Removed any negative comments because it was MY fault they didn't work for me, not the makers. So an absolute 2 thumbs up and I'm seriously stoked at doing perfect 3x26 / 3x28 and even a 4x28 at full speed. Awesome! I apologize for any prior criticism because after building a certain way for 2 years it's hard to change old habits.
Epillon which trick solved your problems bro?
Yeah maybe you can help me then. These worked PERFECTLY three or four times. Now they bind up for no apparent reason. My cores aren’t staying parallel in them. VERY VERY FRUSTRATING. Threw these out because they’re not worth all the wire I have to go through to get a usable coil. Super disappointed in these
very nice man! love the concept :)
these coils look soooo good
got these, not a very skilled builder. I have never even tried an alien, but i could already do staple coils, fused , and staggered fused claptons. any time i tried to do 3 wires it would just twist up , I just got this today and made some triple fused claptons 3*26 core 34wrap ss316, and it worked amazing! Next time i will try to do some 0.4 ribbon stacks with round 26 frames in the wide body set. Great product! Thanks!
this is amazing!
pay day I'm getting a set of these!!! you are a genius my vaping friend :)
lol
Very nice... I like, I subbed!
nice method to connect to the swivels, i just fold wire over mine and spin the swivel with the wire clamped... but this should minimise the wires becoming twisted etc. :)
Hey sorry about the information on the "pinch and pull" method. Not sure where I saw it, I thought it was the quad core alien video by m.terk but after watching it again it doesn't show anything about the "pinch and pull" method. I did see it somewhere.. anyways, I don't stretch my clapton because I was inconsistent with doing it that way and I would have more failures. Basically what I do here is stretch the clapton just to get it situated in the drill. After that I pinch the clapton lightly, just enough to stretch it as far as it needs until my hand get about 10"(inches) away from the cores. Visually you can see your stretch while holding the unstretched in you hand. If you keep the same pressure on the clapton and keep it stet he's the same amount as you go full speed, it will pull the clapton from your hand. Prep extra claptons and do them all in a row and you'll pick it up pretty quick.
I'm very interested in the Revolver, however, i have no idea how it works! I've been searching everywhere online for a tutorial and I've had no luck whatsoever. Please make a video on the Revolver so that more of us builders have a better understanding of it. I thoroughly enjoy using my Alien makers! They've made coil building so much more easier and quicker! Thank you
Nice.
"You wanna go forward and you wanna go fast.."
That's what she said 😂
All this does is keep the cores flat. With enough tension u can keep the cores flat without any assistance or u can use a key ring. This a cool idea though an I like that they slide down the wire. I don't have any trouble keeping the cores parallel. But this would be nice to have when doing aliens with 5 cores an above
And that earned a sub from me :)
Hey what do you get with the alien makers v2 set? There isn't any details to what comes with that set besides 6 makers per pack - 6 packs per set. Like what gauges come with that etc...
I ordered these and I've only been able to make two coils. After that, the wires never stayed flat and just jumble together. It's a great idea, but $10 for two coils is super weak.
Just ordered my alien makers...waitn 2-3 business days for it to be processed...longest 2-3 days of my life lmao...cant wait using legos is gettn old lol
Do a video for the revolver I want to see how it works
Hi Patinos, could you say me if shipping method includes Italy, please? Thank you so much
Any chance you can explain in more detail your drill and pedal set up?
26g kanthal wrapped by 36g nichrome?? am i right??
Nice...
Do you sell these coils? I went to your website and seen the revolver, and the alien maker, but didn't see any pre made coils. Great video, I appreciate people like you who make it easier on those who have trouble building coils.
I’m not here to troll. I’m here for advice. When I first ordered these I was really excited because aliens are a pain. These were supposed to make life a bit easier and in concept, these are great. But I was only able to get 4 sets of usable aliens out of these before they started getting stuck. I’ve tried all sorts of configurations(3,4,5, and 6). I’ve found the more you put on, the more likely it is to bind on you. So I landed on three or four depending on the length. Got 2-3 serviceable coils after I found what worked, and now? I can’t get even one coil out of 10” of wire. I’ve blown through a 100’ spool of 26 gauge since I got these. Is there any trick to these or am I supposed to toss em after a few coils to get more? Because if the latter is what needs to be done, I’ll just stick to my key rings. Like I said, conceptually, these make sense. But in practice, I’m finding the juice just ain’t worth the squeeze. Hope you guys refine these (maybe make em out of metal?) because they work. Just not for very long before they allow too much slack.
TOP NOTCH
but im supposed to get these in the mail today i make aliens already but these look like they'll speed up my process thanks
A man you still in business
Hello, I bought these a few weeks ago, the 22/24ga and 26/28ga sets. At first they worked excellent, was able to make aliens at light speed. But now, for reasons that I cannot figure out the cores constantly collapse on top of each other? I've used the 28ga wire primarily and they've made literally hundreds of aliens so I'm wondering if they're worn out and spaced out more inside causing the cores to overlap and collapse? I've never had this issue and never had a problem until now. Let me just say I build staggertons, Fraliens, mohawks, basically everything so I have quite a bit of experience with building. For instance, when I'm making 3x28ga, 36ga clap aliens, the alien sliders move on their own down the cores before I can even catch the wrap on them so it's making me feel like they're worn out? I know smooth sliding is essential, but this is beyond the point of use if I can't even catch the maker because they just slide without me pushing them with the clap wire. Any feedback or input would be greatly appreciated.
Kyong Kim yup buy a new set
Ya I've been using same set for a over a year now but I use them for 26g aliens. For 28g, when it's not holding them flat then they must be worn out but are probably still good for 27g and 26g don't throw them away... But for $10 I'm sure they made you enough money to buy another set right? That's another great thing about the alien makers is that they pay for them self very quickly if you're a builder selling coils.
Patinos Coil Smithing you should sell different gauge alien “makers” or sliders because I know when first out of the box they require breaking in but since people use 28 gauge and smaller cores you should make or label different ones for different recommended gauges
hey bro, great idea with those alien makers , what I would like to know if you would share? is which pedal your using I have that exact drill, and was there any modding necessary to the pedal or drill for the variable speed?
No modding, foot pedal available at amazon type variable speed sewing foot pedal. Should come up. Just plug drill into foot pedal and foot pedal into wall.
what do you mean by pinch pull method?
ive watched some of the mterk build videos and i didnt hear anything about pinch pull methods.. can you explain please ( for the decored clapton
i dont pre stretch the decored claptons, i just stretch the first 1 inch to where the angle needs to be then situate it into the drill. that 1 inch ill stretch to about 3 inches. gently glide hand down the clapton slinky and stretch it to where it needs to be and where your hand is only about 10 inches away from cores. maybe a foot. hold that pressure until alien wrap is done. prep extras to get more attempts in at first. failures will occur when learning any new techniques but as long as the alien makers are sliding freely then its basically up to the stretch of the de cored clapton. other replys to msg's here have more info on making them run smoother.
I bought it from crazy wire company, one with 26g, it seems like the holes are little bit bigger so the wire blocks the little pieces and dont go forward. The holes are to big for 0.4mm wire :(
Chucky Norris so did i bro. Same problem.
i want to buy that alien maker , can you ship the order to indonesia ?
hmm im using 3 26n80 cores and these arent sliding forward even though i have them pulled towards my swivels idk why they're not sliding like yours?
when they're new if they're snug on the 3x26 get them situated on the cores and into swivel / drill then slide them back and forth until you feel them loosen up. its always good to make sure the alien makers are sliding freely before wrapping anything. Snags in the line will definitely affect the outcome.
is it possible to use 26g kanthal and 36g kanthal for wrap?? i mean all kanthal?? does is work?? just askin' ☺
yes good for all types of wire given they are the proper gauge. even ribbon wire too so you can make staples or framed staples.. also the framed staple Alien a great build. the 26q28g alien makers can hold up to 10 ply of .3-.4 ribbon for a staple coil. or for framed staple with 2x26g or 2x28g frames should fit up to 6 ply ribbon. great for stitched aliens, tsukas, enigmas or any build that has muilt-cores or is wrapped in the clapton fashion.
Patinos Coil Smithing which size alien makers would I need for .5mm ribbon I just order the 26/28g set wondering if they will fit the .5mm ribbon
I bought, 26, 26wide, 28, 28wide and 30. Have horrible experience, coil making tool stacking at every 5mm overwraping, not smooth as expected (tried 5x28awg with 28 wide), don't buy this cheap stuff, useless.
is there a tutorial on making aliens with the "pinch and pull" method?
Hey sorry about the information on the "pinch and pull" method. Not sure where I saw it, I thought it was the quad core alien video by m.terk but after watching it again it doesn't show anything about the "pinch and pull" method. I did see it somewhere.. anyways, I don't stretch my clapton because I was inconsistent with doing it that way and I would have more failures. Basically what I do here is stretch the clapton just to get it situated in the drill. After that I pinch the clapton lightly, just enough to stretch it as far as it needs until my hand get about 10"(inches) away from the cores. Visually you can see your stretch while holding the unstretched in you hand. If you keep the same pressure on the clapton and keep it stet he's the same amount as you go full speed, it will pull the clapton from your hand. Prep extra claptons and do them all in a row and you'll pick it up pretty quick.
Patinos Coil Smithing Thank you! I kinda guessed that was what you were doing and have tried it with great success. I will say when i get to the end of the decored clapton i mess up on the end of my alien wire, but its like an inch so no big deal. Still great vid and great product. i should of got the red ones in the vid they look nicer.
ya at the end, the turning of the wrist is very key all though it doesnt always work for me but like you said its at the end and i usually have enough already for 6 wraps around 3mm by then. helps if the clapton is atleast 8 inches long or longer until you get it down, i know if you make your clapton really long you might experience more twisting of the cores. thats why i cut the cores and reposition every coil.
beyblade refrence "let it rip" 😂
Follow me on Instagram @Patinosnyc for updates on new product releases. New Sizes of Alien Makers out now! Coming Soon is the "RevolveR" an Advance Swivel System. Thanks everyone! Going to be trying to make more videos soon. I'll be using the different size Alien Makers that are available at Patinos.nyc. Also gonna be talking more in depth on the pinch and pull method.
Hitting you up on IG now !!
wouldn't call them alien makers as much as just wire pinchers that allow you to make them easier.. but still a nice product
How many round cores can you fit into the Alien makers?
The 26g-28g holds up to 3x26g and up to 4x28g. They also fit up to 10x .3-.4 ribbon for staples and for framed staples it could hold 6ply ribbon with 2x26g frames.
Hi, I was wondering if you can do a tutorial on the pinch and pull method, it looks really awesome and I always mess up doing the stretch. if you could I would be very, very grateful and I also Wanna buy some, do you have an instagram page that shows what colors they are
ya i want to do more in depth video on my technique. i know now that the "Pinch and pull" method was not talked about in the video i thought did.. lol just busy right now but really want to sit down and make another video about that.
colors for a bead of plastic?? ohh lord ,what is this world coming to
Anyone have STL?
From where I can get this Alien Makers?
Sorry for delayed response, they are available at Patinos.nyc as shown in the video. I know I say the coils are available at subbiesjuice.com and Patinos.nyc but the alien makers are available there too.
Can you use them with flat wire?
Yes they are optimized for round wire and for doing aliens /fused clapton variations. But the 26-28g alien makers also fit up to 10ply of .3-.4 ribbon. For staples and framed staples you'll get like 6ply ribbon with 2x28g frames. The 22-24g alien makers fit .5 ribbon and will slide over 2x28twisted frames.. might be good for fusing smaller sfc's together but haven't tried. Obviously the 30-32g alien makers are very small, only allowing 3x30g - 4x32g
why would you not put a link to purchase
my bad lol its there now... months later :/ if youre not in the USA let me know. there are other sites i can link you to.
I can do Aliens that Clean without any Tool that helps keeping the cores parallel. actually they Never try to Go Out of parallel the way I so Them... but I can See it being Handy for people who have trouble with that
Honestly... I think we all could've did fine with out the first half of your paragraph
I can't believe I just ordered more of these. After wasting hundreds of feet of good wire even after breaking them in I think I will just wait for them to arrive and just throw them straight in the bin.
Hmm interesting, if anyone has any questions or problems feel free to contact me at chris@patinos.nyc or on Instagram @patinosnyc, I'll try to help. I know the 3x26g are snug at first but that's because I wanted to last longer. A trick I use to getting the cores thru is take flat pliers, grab all 3cores and force them on. Secure the cores to drill then slide them back and forth until you feel them loosen up. It only takes me a like 10minutes to take a new pair and get 2 aliens. As the video says my drill is 1200rpms if your drill is faster, you'll have more twisting if you go from 0rpms-4000 rpms instantly. Ease your speed up.as long as the alien makers are sliding freely then the rest is up to the builders. Aliens are still tricky the alien makers just eliminate the stop and go process used by older methods of keeping the cores flat. Sorry for headaches, I made these to put more money in the coil builders pockets not to jip people off..been using my original prototypes for almost a year now. Hope you have better luck. Btw the clapton for an alien when using 3cores should be around a 26g wire.
Chris Pat ino Used 26 to break them in. Even tried using 3x 27 gauge nichrome for abit more room so they would move easily. I'm using a battery drill. Will try again tomorrow.
Chris Pat ino would like to take this opportunity to apologise for being rude. I have had more success in using my first batch of alien makers and have the others which I need to break in at some point. I haven't used the pinch and pull method but stretching the decored clapton just right has been a big breakthrough. If it's not stretched enough I find myself pulling on the wire grouping and twisting the cores leading to further problems. I can now get a dual coil done from start to finish in under 30 minutes easy.
a month waiting for an answer to my order and nothing
The alien holders slide freely on 3 27 gauge core you told me the 26 gauge size would fit and it doesn’t work
hahahaha $20 for 2 coils that took less than 5 minutes of work? that is a fantastic turn around
Run the drill fast.
You make it look easy but I know it is not
Patinos.nyc
Use 2 small Lego blocks...
dave flowers lmao....
😅😂🤣😆
haha im unsure about 'makers' more like multi core supporters :P
Alien Makers are Available at Patinos.nyc for USA. Vapourdepot.com or Brightwireuk.co.uk for UK sellers. New Zealand Also available hit me up for info. if youre in Germany ask ilikevape.de or any other germany vape shop to carry the alien makers Contact me at Chris@patinos.nyc for Whole Sale information and order form.
Patinos Coil Smithing they don't sell them at I ilikevape.de and they sell *Only Clones* they are a bogus fucking company here in Germany
Thanks for that, I didn't say they carried them. I was asking people to help me get into a place in Germany because people are asking about alien Makers over there.
Patinos Coil Smithing ohhh ok, misread your comment... get in touch with intaste.de or steam-time.de or vapecustoms.de they are the best in Germany, I would believe they would love to have this
All good, wow awesome man thanks, I'll see if any of them wanna pick them up.
Patinos Coil Smithing Can sent to Indonesia?
Yeah I just bought a set of these and they don't slide down my wire like that at all. I'm better off using ribbon to keep the cores flat. Bought 28-26. 2i works decent but can't hardly get 3 26 gauge wire through one much less 3. then if I do they don't move. I want my money back this is a gimmick piece of garbage
hey sorry man, sounds like your experiencing problems during the breaking in period. Try securing your 3x 26g gauge cores to the swivels, slide on all 6 alien makers and get them locked in your drill. slide them back and forth one at a time until you feel them loosen up. its always good to make sure theyre sliding freely before wrapping. its just because theyre 3d printed and the holes are so small. once there sliding freely its basically up to the user.
Patinos Coil Smithing thank you for the tips, I can't wait for the sets I bought to arrive.
i dont see how this makes aliens? lol its more of a keep your coils flat thingy damn gimmicks
Good for people with hand problems thats cool. good thing my hands are still working or i'd have to buy these things hint, hint their crap.... its easier to uses flat ribbon or tape at least it doesnt need a "break in period" and you can get it all for next to nothing. dont buy this shit basically is my answer unless you have the money to waste