Crestline residents in survival mode after powerful SoCal winter storm
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- A life and death situation is unfolding in mountain communities like Crestline. The fear among residents is that those who can't make it out of the snow are in some serious danger. Full story: abc7.com/crest...
I’ve lived in OC my entire life of 61 years and until a few years ago we had cabins in Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead and this is the most snow I’ve ever seen. My son has a friend in Running Springs which sits at a lower elevation than BB and Arrowhead and they are ok, but they are totally socked in.
Actually Running springs is higher than Lake Arrowhead
"Our children will never see snow"...I 💖 Global Warming.
@@lilblackduc7312 Breathe
There are other circumstances involved in this one. Three stores had their roof's collapse. They knew that they were likely to get more than the usual amount of snow but didn't anticipate 12'of snow in about 12 or 13 days. The road to the hospital was only dug out a few days ago. I've been told that normally roads get plowed twice a day but many haven't been plowed at all. There's also been numerous house explosions and people are smelling gas leaks. One guy told me that he has a tree leaning on a power line outside his house and his roof is buckling. He called emergency service and was told to call back when it does cave in. He told me he only knows about two Blackhawks dropping off medicine at the hospital. People that normally go check on and bring food and supplies to the elderly or disabled are trapped or authorities aren't letting them go up the mountain.
When I lived on the mountain I always had a stock pile of candles, lanterns, food and supplies for at least two weeks. Mountain woman.
Stay stocked up and rotate!
The doors are completely blocked with snow.
I'm starting to wonder how some of these people are surviving out of the city. 😂
I agree. It stands to reason the one year you are going to have a lot of snow and the area doesn’t have a lot of plows.
"We only stay stocked up for 3 or 4 days. We had a grocery store right down the street"
I think I see the problem.
Preppers are right.
Exactly. They must normally go to the store at least once a day. They were warned way in advance, but they decided to be someone else's problem, then complain when that doesn't work out for them.
@@AFloridaSon Your comment shows you should stay in Florida or go back... No need for your supposed expertise on mtn. living...
Have some compassion, just because some folks didn't do what you would have done does not mean they were wrong.
@seventhday but they were wrong. This area gets snow every year and has a ski resort. Everyone also knows it doesn’t have a lot of snow plows. So it stands to reason one year residents could get a lot of snow that keep the roads blocked for a week or more.
This area also has the San Andreas fault running through it. Therefore, they need to prepare to be stuck up there for weeks if the two roads down the mountain are severely damaged.
I think a huge issue is there is nowhere to clear the snow, too. Once you are off the highways, you find narrow roads. Two cars trying to pass each other requires one to pull over while the other carefully passes it.
Put it in dump trucks and dump it off the side of the road. Two dump trucks per loader are efficient.
LOL, so you're telling me that a driver occasionally has to pull over and yield right-of-way? I can barely begin to imagine the horror!
@@amosburton 🤣Imagine moving up to the mountains to get away from people,and then complain because you are isolated now.
@@donniefleming9914 exactly!
@StinkFingerr A 🤡 who thinks they understand the issue but who clearly has never been on this mountain.
Okay so here's another reason for people to be prepared. Or as it has been named be a prepper. Have enough food and water and supplies for a minimum of three months people regardless of your circumstances or situation or where you live be prepared
I don't understand how you can be running out of supplies after 4 days if you adequately prepared for the warnings. Yes, it's a lot of snow, more than many have seen in their lifetimes, but I would think that those living in remote communities would have a better sense of preparedness. I just hope people rethink their strategy for surviving these life stalling situations that can occur at any time.
thank you so much for covering our neighbors in crestline. that is a working class community whose ONLY grocery store completely caved in. i hope that fact sinks in for commenters here. all they have now is a 711 and a liquor store with a small market.
So many prayers. I can’t even imagine
I hope you all get help soon!
How many prayers have you sent since your comment 4 hours ago?
@@bobabooey4537 a lot!
For my friends on the hill!
Thank you!
I do love snarky! ;-)
I have no idea why my concern bothers you.
Everybody has a bad day, I guess.
I hope your gets better!
Always be somewhat prepared,you just NEVER EVER KNOW .
I am sure praying for you guys! I have family up there and worried about them as well. I grew up in Big Bear. That was my childhood 30 years plus ago. I hope everyone will do as well as they can and stay calm and safe. I love and miss the San Bernardino Mountains and of course miss Big Bear Lake!
This is an unusual storm event. I don't think it's fair for people to denigrate the Residents who are stuck in this situation. And many folks WERE Prepared.
The people that were prepared are not having issues like the people that were unprepared. And if they are its probably because they gave their food away to help those that were unprepared. This isn't a hurricane or flood or tornadoes where everyone's house gets destroyed. ITS SNOW. I saw one video where a younger healthy looking women said she watched her roof slowly cave in over the days. Why would she not go outside and clear the roof before it caves in? People are dumb and it really shows in so cal.
THANK YOU, I am so sick of seeing so many snide and even nasty comments berating those who are suffering up there. Thank you for having a heart.
@@ruthnolan13 While I do have a heart for those folks up there. Its equally slickening to see people complain and blame the government or society for not taking care of them during something like this. When mother nature strikes natural order returns and everyone will worry about themselves before helping others especially if they are unprepared.
@@willutw mother nature ?? lol looks more like weather warfare and the government testing and preparing the rest of america to solely on the government
@@willutw I live in a mountain community in SoCal that received a lot of snow but nowhere near the amount that dropped on Arrowhead and Big Bear. I am single, female, 68 years, and in good shape. I’ve shoveled my deck three times during this series of storms to eliminate or reduce snow loads. Having said that, I can’t imagine shoveling the amount of snow that fell on this community-from a roof, deck, or anywhere else. I would certainly try, as this woman may have done, but without assistance I suspect it would be a futile effort. As a resident said in this clip, where do you put the snow you’re shoveling. I don’t think you appreciate how catastrophic this situation is.
Prayers for yall🙏
Please 🙏🏼 stay safe 🙏🏼 ❤️ 😢
@1:41. "So I bought these strictly for decoration...." Just like your brand new jacket, gloves, shovel, and hat? My dude. You're rockin' the California stereotype.
@@blueser100 F-a shovel, you live in mountains get a f'ng snow blower and a shovel or 3
I live in Chico, and the same situation obtains for foothill communities just east of here, such as Magalia, Cohasset and Forest Ranch. They're buried in snow, and the digging out will take some time yet.
Looks like the Sierra pretty much most years….there needs to be a survival plan by the residents for extremes like this and the state should be on top of the plowing situation better than this…we’ve had the number one and two record snow seasons in the Sierra the last 6 years…there’s gonna be more. Oh and when that 8.0 earthquake hits? There ain’t gonna be a road to get in and out of. Get a survival plan put together for at least 30 days..people here in Tuolumne County cope with storm after storm most years and the survival prepping thing is serious in these rural mountain parts. Start preparing for the coming future calamities.
I agree! This is the tip of the iceberg.
Good advise!
,,,,"Our children will never see snow"...I 💖 Global Warming.
While I agree with most of your points, Crestline and the SB mountains sit on a monolith. No chance of real earthquake damage, the whole mountain moves in tandem
@@sonicconceptsmedia3892 Interesting. I was just talking about what earthquake preparedness should look like for us living up here in the SB mountains. It's hard to know what to expect and what to prepare for exactly.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for people who are not prepared for an extended stay at home in those mountains.
I lived there for a year. Some things are commonly known. They moved to Crestline. A rural town with one road down the mountain. One. That’s it. The other roads require residents to be able to reach Arrowhead or Big Bear first. Even then, your options only increase by two roads from Big Bear and two from Arrowhead. Going down opposite sides of the mountain.
They know it snows annually up there. So much so that there is a busy ski resort in Big Bear.
They know in the city the small roads are plowed last.
They knew this storm was coming. The media well covered that this massive, slow moving, snowstorm was predicted well in advance.
They lived through COVID with an extended period of bare grocery store shelves. Why didn’t COVID turn them into better preppers?
These residents could have evacuated down the mountain to a friend or relative.
Anyone who does not have a lot of non perishable food and paper goods stocked up after COVID is simply a fool. Pardon my harsh word choice but it is true.
Even if this snow storm wasn’t so thoroughly predicted it stands to reason that one year they are going to get a gully washer of a snow storm. That could strand them in the mountains.
They also need to prepare for a big earthquake that damages their two roads down the mountain for an extended period of time resulting in supplies not reaching their grocery stores and pharmacies. The San Andreas Fault runs through and around those mountains.
Instead, they didn’t prepare adequately. The main person interviewed prepared for three days and assumed supply trucks could reach his grocery store. Dude, Crestline is not a large town like Big Bear and you do not live in a city like Redlands with a lot of roads in and out.
So let this snowstorm be a lesson to these residents. Hopefully, they will be prepared to be snowed in for weeks up there or stranded due to damaged roads from an earthquake.
Anyone on medication. With a prescription you can bring in three months supplies of most medications from pharmacies in Mexico. Even prescriptions like insulin or asthma inhalers. The big exception are your scheduled drugs like opioids. Get a stash going. If a Mexican pharmacy freaks you out too much, the Costco in TJ will take your US membership. There also is a Walmart with a pharmacy. Bonus, most medications are a tenth of the price, so you can afford to pay out of pocket.
Become prepers. Research what you need to do online. Stop thinking the government is always going to be there for you to keep your life moving forward.
Wow that was some lecture. Maybe somebody will read it
Nice to read someone besides me has common sense.
@@frankmacleod2565 😂😂😂
definitely 3 days is not enough prep. Everyone who lives up there should have a month minimum of food storage. People always think their local grocery store is going to be up and running or fully stocked but obviously that's not the case in a variety of scenarios. Hopefully will be a learning moment for everyone watching this situation.
How often do you replace the food in your prepper kit? I gave up on it after replacing it all a few times. Most likely, it won't be needed.
When I saw that guy having to walk a mile to the store I couldn't believe he was able to walk that far.
😂😂
That was my reaction too. Pretty absurd.
In several feet of snow and dangerously icy conditions. And that’s IF you’re able to dig yourself out the the house. People and animals are dying, this is a nightmare.
Some are having to walk eight hours to just get to a location to get food. Then have to walk back
Scary! 😱😢
I use to deliver to that post office the roads are crazy edge hanging type
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78yr old countyboy
I've been hearing of gas meters problems in the Sierra mt. For years. How about fixing the problem. Gas companies, before next winter??.
I grew up in this town. So I see a lot of my friends posting their situations and I can say the community has come together and are looking out for each other
Trying to find help digging out is near impossible. Trying to hire a plow went from 700$ to upwards of 2000$ since they realized they could gouge the prices to whoever is desperate enough to pay it. Mostly older residents who can’t dig out on their own or disabled folks.
That it it’s all the short term rental owners willing to pay it so they can shove more people into their rentals as soon as they can.
So it looks like I’ll be digging out my 100ft long driveway with at least 5 feet of snow across the whole length by hand if I ever want to get out of here. Too bad I have flu and digging isn’t in my best interests.
We have a 100ft driveway.. but we parked just at the edge of the street.. and now don't need to shovel our entire driveway.. big brain!
My first wife is a resident above Crestline. A small one lane dirt road. Her road was plowed yesterday by a bull dozer. She is afraid to leave for supplies because she won't be allowed back and she's flying to Morrocco this week
Glad she is ok but Morocco may have to wait.
Time for those Delivery Drones?
How do you know where the individuals are? Not all cabins are lived in 365 days, and some are so old, current maps, and GPS don't have them either.
Get these people help NOW!!!!!!!
Caltrans knew ahead of time that this was going to be a major event. Caltrans should’ve been plowing those roads 24 seven during the storm.
It’s been …days…and they are running out of supplies? Are they all teenagers? Adults don’t live in the mountains without preparations.
People living in remote locations should have a minimum of 4 weeks worth of food, water, & medicine on hand in case of emergencies, and the people of Crestline are examples of why.
I live in a major North American city, on an earthquake fault line, so you’d better believe we’ve got emergency supplies on hand to keep us going for months, if push comes to shove. Why do people, especially Americans, expect their governments to Big Daddy them through disasters? Just ridiculous.
You don't think that a lot of folks up there were prepared? I think they were.
It’s so stupid for people like you to say what people should have done ; your personal expertise is not the experience here and you’re not obviously privy to the situation at hand so please stop patting yourself on the back for what you would have done or how you would have been prepared .
Get off your high horse
Just stop. Your tone deaf comments are really ticking me off. I have friends and loved ones trapped up there in an extreme emergency and though prepared as possible, some couldn't afford 4 weeks of food. Medications needing refills that insurance only covers once/month and they were already running low. Injuries with no medical help & no way out. Let's see how smug you are when the big one does hit your city. I'll bet you'll be crying for help if you get trapped in debris and can't get to those emergency supplies.
Also this "remote location" is a city with thousands of residents, less than an hour from the inland empire sprawl. Hardly remote, by any stretch
@@ruthnolan13 thank you! People up here also live paycheck to paycheck like many other communities ; my coworkers friends and neighbors need basic things like milk and eggs even canned food but they expect us to have 4 weeks worth of this stuff without even being able to make it to work ; no paycheck no food no electricity. It’s beyond “being prepared “ we can’t get out. Literally
How’s digging out those Tesla chargers going with no power
here come the comment from the know-it-all city people.
Living in the So Cal mountains is a luxury for most people. Also, be prepared.
No worry Governor Newsom will come to your rescue as soon as he gets back from vacation 🌄🌞🏝️🏖️🌴🌄🌞🏝️🏖️🌴
What is name of grocery store
Why is it that ABC news could go up there but not people’s families trying to bring them food and help them? Something doesn’t jive!
If this happens every winter, they will have to leave that mountain side. It’s gonna be another nightmare when that amount of snow melts, there will mud slides, runoff and possible flooding and more tree snapping. Where is FEMA? This is a national emergency. They seem to be fending for themselves with just local and state help. If they don’t get out and more snow comes, their lives are in danger.
Or maybe they'll learn to listen to the warnings, and prepare when they are told to.
Was there any deaths reported this far?
Prepare People, Prepare! Food, fuel, heat, clothing.
I have 10 feet of snow all around me. We need Basil street plowed and the connecting streets please. Our loved ones need to get down the hill and back up with no waiting in line for five hours.
I have a vacation home in crestline on one hand glad I was not there and did not get snowed in but on the other hand not there to shovel snow off of my large deck and my roof. I am going to be so nervous when I am able to go up there. I expect my deck will have collapsed. I sure hope not
It is getting better up here my street is plowed the 18 is opened but a warning needs to be issued RAIN IS COMING AND DANGEROUS FLOODING!!! PLEASE GET THE WORD OUT PREPARE YOUR HOMES AND DONT BRING OUR SNOW DOWN THE HILL OUR TREES NEED THE WATER ! NO STEALING!
Hope you guys get ready for the next storm, whenever that is bros.😮
Not sure about cali, but here in Nevada, people are horrible. Not neighborly at all. Guess they never need each other’s help. If we get snowed in here at Fallon. It’s every man for them self!
What about drones or medical care packages
How do they locate the people in need? Not all cabins are lived in 365 days and not all cabins show up on GPS.
@@ourcreativebeehive thermal radars , LED lights ?
What about using blow torches?
The old timers didn't need rescuing. It's not the first time it's snowed up there. That's a tourist thing.
Where is your Governor?
Its ashame they cant drop deicer/icemelt mix from helicopters just like fighting fires
Still jo help to trapped outlying areas. City of Big Bear should be helping!!!
Omg the people r having to do things for themselves imagine that.
Be ready next year. This maybe a normal event
Misericórdia Deus
The local plows we're moved to help Caltrans and then the power went out.
Instead of the news crew being able to pass they should let supplies and medications to go up
The news crew wasn't allowed to pass
@@daynaphipps4912 yet there reporting from there
They are reporting from the bottom of the mountain and only as far as where it's plowed. Except the helicopter but where is the helicopter supposed to land?
Yea ok not arguing with you
With climate changes and more intense disasters we need to make changes on how fema, red cross , fire departments, etc can respond quickly and more effectively. I'm confident that with science and technology improvements can be made.
at least it's not yellow ...
🙄
I am referred to as a pepper nut job by liberals. I also live in an earthquake zone and in an area for potential deep snow. Foothills of the Cascade mountains. I keep a year plus supply of food, toilet paper, etc. 6 months of dog food. I rotate my stock, so everything is fresh. I have the ability to cook and purify water without depending on electricity or gas. This weekend, I canned 3 corn beef briskets (11 pints) that were on sale to add to the squirrel stash. I turn leftover holiday meals into soups and can them. It does not cost a lot to be prepared. Just use common sense and grind it out over time. Do not buy 100 lbs of rice and beans and call it prepared. That would get boring and bland to eat over time. Buy sale items a little at a time and stock up. It will add up over time. Learn how to can and preserve. Not only does it save money, It can also be an interesting hobby. I have a friend that we constantly see who can come up with different complete meals and soup mixes. Most of these meals, everything tastes fresh to order, you can not tell that you are eating out of a mason jar. Example. Make flour tortillas from scratch, use stored beans, dehydrated jalapeños, dehydrated onions. Garlic to make refried beans, canned hamburger. Go to bulk spices to season the meat. canned salsa or taco sauce. Makes a few burritos. Lot of work, but everything is doable on a wood bbq barrel grill, a gas or electric oven, or a camp oven.
City people living the mountains for the views but don't know to do when they need to survive. ..smh..
So you all are UNDER PREPARED for the conditions you live in NICE!!!
Why isnt the Governor up there in 15 days???? Camp Pendleton is ready to help..
If you can’t survive? Move then!
It's raining outside tonight..
They need Military NOW
YOU GUYS WERE WARNED 2 WEEKS AHEAD AND YOU STILL IGNORED THE WARNING AND STILL WENT. IM NOT GOING TO FEEL SORRY FOR KYLE IN HIS 400k+ CABIN
Two weeks,Eh? We can't even get a good five day forcast.
If they had cans of evaporated water they wouldn't be having this problem
Residents probably going to bum rush the mountains it is San Bernardino after all that’s how they use to get into the concerts back in the day
Where is the Governor you voted?
He learned that no matter what he does, enough will vote to keep him in office.
omg insanity.
Man where's all this snow where i live, this sucks and these people are lucky
CRAZY
its water . its global warming
RIP Goodwins.
When rich folks get stranded, they fly in supplies and private security, and the party continues.
Put a Ukraine flag on top of that mountain. You will get help.
ur a meeen person!!!
@@scottbarker9058 lol it true
LOL
Just dealing with the real bud. I have family up there. You stay living in the We are World Stuff. Keep watching CNN.
Where is Biden? Oh yeah, he's in Ukraine
National guard ?
🤺💐
Already up there...
@@someguy9778 They did not let them land and let the food and meds sit there for 8 hours.
Fools crying over this baby storm ... imagine the real ahiznitt.. -60 degrees.. infinite winds averaging 80mph and rain/sleet for days 4 times the power of 90s el nino 1998... or a.drount so powerful all this water is gone in 2 days.. prostration is the best way to deal with something like this.. cause anything else is uncivilized.. and the more I see people lacking this around myself
Thr funner it gets
We do get winds that high and yes this storm was 75 mph it is not uncommon the issue is the snow is more than you or anyone is thinking. It is all the way up to the top of the doors and the entire decks are filled with several feet beyond that. The snow has covered up to many roofs. This is much more snow than anyone is imagining.
@@stacie1613 pfft I'll snap my fingers and it melts in moments..
Vote Republican and live!
Nevada voted in a Republican governor. He has been on top of the storms up north. Our mountains in the south received snow, but nothing like this. The storm waited to dump more snow on Northern Arizona.
Even where I live in a city, when they call for a winter storm, I always find my way ahead of time down at the grocery store for a weeks worth of food. Im talking about 20-30cm of snow, not really a big deal in the city, but I still prepare for it so I dont have to deal with it. The entire community should be out with shovels and blowers around the clock helping themselves and each other but I bet they dont. They will wait for help instead.
City slickers living "off the grid"
🙏🙌🙏
Problem #1, only stocked up on food for a few days….
Send drones with a box lunch.
To where? The cabins dot the mountain. Not all are lived in. Not all are visible. Not all show up on GPS.
More from the un prepared failed Democrats, there are others with much more snow in the mountains!
CAL-TRANS is lazy, That's why roads aren't clear. I'll bet they can get up there to read the gas meters.
I have no or very little sympathy for the people living in an area that is susceptible to that kind of weather. Everywhere those residents should’ve had plenty of food to last them at least a month, a generator with the least 25 gallons of fuel on hand or plenty of firewood.
1980s
It took a huge road grader equipped with double blades to punch through our quarter-mile of access and that was "only" about 16 inches. And with essentially unlimited flat fields to push it aside into a 3-lane superhighway. Another foot or more since but over time and again, ROOM TO MOVE IT. Plus ... good God, its weight and mass days after its fluffy fall increases exponentially. A fight against sheer volume, mass and space now. PS: a mile hike? Boo-hoo! I did a 2 mile to just mailbox (not all flat, either).
Dire, is a bit of excited exaggeration. Let me guess, their running out of toilet paper?! You live in these foothills, you should be prepared. You should have a couple of weeks of canned food and/or medication on hand. Boy, I wonder how you would panic up in Canada with the snow and MUCH colder temperatures? You are not dying, if you were in a desperate situation, helicopters could drop supplies and you could stay there for weeks comfortably. Chill out! Pun intended! 😂
With all the money democrats have printed they should have been able to buy everybody a new snowmobile
I searched for "Don Lemon", what am I doing here?
KARMA FOR BASHING POOR HUNGRY SICK TIRED MIGRANTS AT THE BORDER. KARMA.
It sounds like this part of the USA is not in a modern country…
Go in the store and get stuff its who's gonna stop you
Maybe people will start to believe in global weirding
This is obviously trump's fault🤣
Hey guys there is a snow storm coming in, no one get ready
Global warming. ☀️🥵
Relax, it's just snow.
theres no were Toby put the snow. I think it's time to move down the mountain guy. 🙄 I don't feel bad. I really could care less. get used to snow like this. lol when fire season comes they complain about that. these ppl are funny. they live in these areas and don't prep.
What? At least they have a home. Going hungry? What? What a bunch of whiners.