Elon Musk just officially announced SpaceX's NEW Secret Weapon: Raptor 4.0...
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- Elon Musk just officially announced SpaceX's NEW Secret Weapon: Raptor 4.0...
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Elon Musk just officially announced SpaceX's NEW Secret Weapon: Raptor 4.0...
Elon Musk has just dropped a surprising hint about the emergence of a new engine iteration dubbed Raptor 4. This revelation comes as quite a shock, considering it arrives less than a year after the testing of Raptor 3.
Now, what sets Raptor 4 apart from its predecessors? What makes it stand out in the realm of rocket engines?
Elon Musk just officially announced SpaceX's NEW Secret Weapon: Raptor 4.0... Join us on today's episode of Alpha Tech as we delve into the intricacies of Raptor 4 and explore its groundbreaking features and capabilities compared to other rocket engines on the market. Get ready to witness the next evolution in rocket propulsion technology!
Elon Musk just officially announced SpaceX's NEW Secret Weapon: Raptor 4.0...On April 7th, Elon Musk, the esteemed CEO of SpaceX, unveiled significant details about the upcoming engines set to be produced by the company. In a momentous speech delivered in front of the entire SpaceX team, Musk shared insights into the future of propulsion technology.
Musk stated, "I think ultimately we'll probably aim to get the booster engines over 330tf." This ambitious declaration hints at SpaceX's relentless pursuit of innovation and improvement in engine performance.
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The "legendary F1 engine that propelled the Saturn IV" was actually the "legendary F1 engine that propelled the Saturn V".
Close enough for a Chatbot that was born 8 weeks ago.
Elon announced Raptor 5.0 which is much better. I can't wait Raptor 6.0
There is just so much can be improved on the Raptor at it CH4 and L/Ox operation. So there may NEVER be a 5.0 and 6.0. Here on out there will be little improvements so 4.2, 4.3 & even 4.4. The only thing is building a larger engine about the size of the BE-4.
@@user-cj3je3ch2t Thank you for your answer, I was just sarcastic since Raptor 3.0 doesn't exist but this guy is talking about Raptor 4.0, let's just talk straight about 5.0 or 6.0 🤣
Well probably have an iPhone 30 before that happens, it'll just be battery that costs 1500 dollars and everything else will be an additional cost. lol
humanity must reach other planets . we must be interplanetary . love from Turkiye
Elon needs to go Nuclear.
Both power plants and rockets. Then something might get done!
Indeed, there will be no serious colonization beyond the moon with chemical rockets.
Nrc won't have it. Though maybe a SMR to generate fuel , or a nuclear battery or microreactor with Sterling engine may be possible
Great Comment ! NASA and DARPA are working on this ! Also the engine for the NASA designed "24-Hour Lunar Shuttle" (LEO to LLO) by Stan Borowski can take US and the world to Mars and beyond... The engine uses an advanced Nozzle designed by Aerojet Corp ! tjl
330 tF is not 330 thrust force, it is 330 metric tons of FORCE or 3.24MN.
Thank you for your reminder! I will note that
I'd never heard of a Saturn 4? LOL
Oh! This was my fault! I will note this
It launched last week!
Yeah, I believe it supposed to be Saturn 5. He might want to update his script, this is the second time I've heard about Saturn '4'... 🤣
Could it be feasible to fly 2 parts of a space faring vehicle and connect them in flight to then release to maximise size of payload capacity?
Note tf is tons-force, or possibly tonnes-force, not thrust force.
Thank you for your reminder! I will note that!
Interesting you skipped the Merlin 1D in engine comparison. In theory, that would be Merlin 5.0 (Merlin 1, 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D) so nothing new for SpaceX.
And thought Elon talked about Raptor V3 not V4. Can't find any other reference to a V4 Raptor anywhere.
New weapon: The Shagwell.
Could you redo the audio to say tons force rather than thrust force, please.
This is my fault! I will note that!
GO SPACE X
GOOD DAY TO THE WORLD
Yeah !
You can put the monster engine where the Sun does not shine
Ok, sounds remarkable - but what is the real stage of development of Raptor-4 engine ???
You'll have to ask Grok, the design/testing phase is all good, but you know "production is hard"😅😂 Ready for Artemis-III/2026(...?) IDK🧐🤔
I wonder. If they would scale up the Raptor to a size for example F1 engine, would that change the thrust to weight ratio?
Thrust force? No, tons force
My ex-wife refers to it as thrust force...
Iam sure they won’t do titanium grid fins till the ship is finalized. Thanks for the great video.
Thank you so much!
Way to go, SpaceX, you Rock !
More regurgitated info. Don’t have enough time in the day for rewatch old video.
Anti-gravity generator cargo hold needed
Don't forget I told you that the 'objective' remains there is a growing capability for a 'single-stage-to-orbit'[SSTO] rocket, leaving boosters in orbit as 'fuel' tanks🧐🤔 More fuel, plus more efficient Raptor 4.0[...36 engines?], will certainly improve the concept/reality(...?)
Earth-orbit refueling, using dedicated Starship bodies, has been on SpaceX's calendar for a very long time. The orbital "fuel depot's" have already been designed. YOU didn't tell anybody anything, unless you are a leading SpaceX design engineer. Given the enormous payload capacity of Starship, the only way to get to the moon, Mars, or any other place in the solar system, is to have Starship Refueling in Earth orbit. It isn't that it would make anything "more efficient" - it's that without orbital refueling, it would be impossible to haul the incredible amount of tonnage that Starship is capable of pushing out of Earth's gravity well, and still have enough fuel left to get anywhere; so orbital refueling is mandatory for success. These tests will start soon.
tf doesn't mean trust force it means ton-force. 330 tons of force. There is no unit called trust force. Makes you only sound ridiculous.
Making up your own unit doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look dumb
Pretty sure he used tf to mean THE-FUCK
Always trust the Force.
Do we have any real data on the Raptor 4 engine? Do we have anything on the Raptor 4 at all? If you look at the size of the F1 engine in comparison to the Raptor 3 engine. What is the size ratio of the F1 engine in comparison to the size ratio of the Rapture 3. I betting ton for ton output the Rapture 3 beats it hands down. That is a fair comparison. Do you know when they plan to implement the Raptor 3? Do you think we will see it on V2? Exciting Times. Great Episode.
When can Someone tell Elon the Idea of Raptor M Microwave injected?? I've Emailed Elon without response. I guess he doesn't want that 50h/50o mix and maybe 60h/40o @ 400 to 600.
Don’t expect to talk to the SPACE GOD!
Isn't TF = Tons Force?
And what will Spacex do with all those Raptor-1, 2, and 3 rocket engines that have already been built, now that they have a new Raptor-4 engine design ???
Scrap those not to be used.
What do you think Ford did with all the unsold Model-T-s it built, after advancing to the next level? What do we do with all the unused, outmoded tech we have today? The answer will come to you... SpaceX can build these engines almost as fast as you can count them.
After the commissioning of Starship, the priority of astronautics should not be flights to Mars or the Moon, but the development of transport for space (for low-cost transportation of goods in the direction of the Moon) and non-chemical engines for them, as well as the deployment of all the necessary infrastructure in the orbits of the Earth and the Moon. Hasty attempts to fly Starships to the Moon will only lead to overexpenditure of resources and microscopic achievements in the economic plane.
"Thank You!"
Thank you so much!
ton force bro
Thank you for your reminder! This my fault! I will note that!
Chemical engines only make sense for lifting cargo from Earth to LEO. The Moon is a nearby (relatively) gravitational pit, Mars is a distant (very) gravitational pit, and both of these pits are neither suitable for life nor for the economic presence of human colonies on them. Relatively speaking, people would prefer to travel for years on ocean liners to long-term accommodation in the “resorts” of Greenland and Antarctica at exorbitant prices...
Great Video ! Back in the last Century someone designed a reusable 500 Ton to LEO rocket and return to splash down in the ocean ! At least three versions of SpaceX Starship are needed... The Starship versions needed are the Cargo, Tanker and the Starship HLS versions ! The SpaceX Cargo Starship after delivering contracted Cargo to the Lunar Surface, can then top off with Lunar Oxygen (LUNOX-TM/LOX/O2) and then return to the LEO CSS with this valuable Cargo ! The Tech developed to return to the moon to stay, can then take US and the world to Mars and beyond-Ad Astra... tjl
When is Raptor 8,9,and 10 coming? Already on the design board. Some of those super advanced models will use metallic hydrogen..! A must to eliminate those rediculous huge fuel tanks. Ships like those used in the TV show Space 1999 could be built.
Metallic Hydrogen will be used for spaceflight by 2124.
Great Comment ! Or "2001 A Space Oddessy" with 27 minutes of dialog... tjl
BROW WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT RAPTOR 4 WHEN THEY ARE ONLY BUILDING PROTOTYPES FOR RAPTOR 3
Because SpaceX has the annoying habit of telling what is going to happen, and then rapidly introducing it to us. This is something NASA has never been able to give us, and we aren't used to it - yet. Musk doesn't traffic in idle speculation.
@@art.is.life.eternal yeah but i never heard anything other than raptor 3 from spacex themselves... its only these fanboys who yap about raptor 4 starship 3 and mars missions when the first thing starship is going to do is lunar lander and orbit stuff
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Thank you so much!
Thank you for the video.
Outstanding
Thank you so much!
Dream Weaver is going nowhere.
I think that's why it's named "Dream Weaver."
😮😮😮 I don’t get all the wow 🤩 the main problem is the tiles… they reputation and survival is dependent upon the safety aspect and tiles will be the end of space x, same as happens to nasa.the solution is a blanket cover from head to toe. If not keep the same solution “capsule” to enter the atmosphere.
tf is not short for Thrust Force.
"Thrust Force" is not a thing...
tf = Tons of Thrust
This is not the first time this silly usage has been criticized on your channel. If you are talking rockets, then you are talking physics and engineering. This is not nit-picking. Physics is the study of matter and energy in space-time to extraordinary degrees of precision and accuracy. One does not go to the moon or mars making trivial errors.
So, Elon's tribe has lapped Blue Origin with Raptor 3, literally doubling potential while halving complications. And from Elon's numbers, they are gonna lap the BE-4 again, with
Raptor 4. Will be interesting to compare production rates.
And on the Merlin engine, those are soon entirely obsolete, saw an image a couple days ago, Merlin's are Spaghetti Monster era engines.
I suspect Raptor 4 will be similar to raptor 3, maybe slightly bigger-longer combustion chamber, but most of the difference will be from jacking up the pumps...
And rumors of increased use of engine heat have me suspecting higher efficiencies. Also removal of heat shields means a potential slight increase from exhaust radiant heat striking the engines. basically the cryro is the cold side temp of the heat engine, and the more heat you use, the better efficiency.
On the ship sizing, one option with higher thrust engines, is bottling the booster shape to get more volume. i.e. keep the current diameter at the base, then expand outward above the engines, and then stay straight or neck back down for the seperation stage and starship.
This would allow keeping the same launch mount, and keeping overall height down, and instead using the height increase for extending starship length. otherwise soon need taller towers.
Also would counteract the needed structual enhancement of the booster, they were adding doublers to lower structure after last test. internal framing is the wrong place to add weight, the skin is 80% of hull strength, better to thicken the skin than cobble on krapp. And a larger diameter hull's volume to weight would counteract the increased weight of thicker skin. plus you get more internal structure due to maintaining spacing centers distances and increased circumference.
Though it might be time to include some actual internal trusses using the sweet tube truss tech. it doesnt get any better than that, and a minimum of three trusses would strengthen the booster plenty. or same strength could be gained on the starship, with external wing keels creating double deltas with planned wing area expansion. And one unwinged keel piping and wiring trunk on ships horizontal bottom. would be less complicated than myriad slapped on doublers, and get desired function if it starts having hull strenth issues too.
Rule of thumb on metal fabrication is always strive to get three purposes out of any given piece of metal if you can, in your design.
As for the tube truss Tipi circle seperation stage, forget it, its good, wont have any problems, its the defacto state of the art going forward.
Just try to remember to use similar structure where ever appropriate, from now on. If it needs an open structure, and its for Space, think tubes and triangles...
So, looking forward to seeing Raptor 4, should look beefy! and built like a tank!
Has anybody heard from Jeff lately? is he OK?
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How does a person to Contact SpaceX with IDEA's that could help SpaceX with simple Issues.
Googling 'Contact SpaceX' will give you lots of options, including addresses & phone numbers for enquiries... maybe simple problem solving isn't your thing? 😁
Apply for a job. DUH...
"Im a janitor but Im super smaaaart just like in Hollyweird."
Elon: "SpaceX isnt Hollyweird. We hire actual intelligent people."
Hearing so many words with a few tidbits of new information is getting boring.
News only is going to take priority, simply don't have the time.
Talking about nothing new is fun, I guess, to see if it can be achieved with no complaints, I guess. Talking about something real or probable is worthwhile as it wastes the time of no one, for sure!
No he didn't /video The End. Report as spam or disinformation.
Elon is Brilliant. If anybody could figure it out it'll be him!
Elon musk: possibly history's greatest flim flam man and consummate swindler. I can't imagine anyone buying anything from history's greatest scam artist.
Get over yourself.
what if they are terraforming the planet and not for all... what if this is all a great experiment and what is happening in the World right now is the push to get our seed off this planet... next step in the experiment for the expansion of humanity from the planet... what if the ancient text are right and the other brother finally gets to shut the talking monkeys up... what would you do if you knew... I personally would help my seed express to the next level. out of the control of those that do them harm... Elon is receiving these energies and expressing them so...ie the powers that be that are dead set on ending this game... if the cycle is correct we are over do for another natural catastrophic cataclysm... the elephant in the room most likely solar plasma that causes the effects... according to the mobius strip of time on this planet strata geology this happens all the time... pretty sure that is why the people lived in cave cities underground... the people that know are trying to get ahead of the possible destruction with innovation and design and power grabbing... we the descendants are endowed with abilities and the Ones not spoken do not have our creative innovation abilities ... why they keep us around... even trolls...
Tom Bales: Who the hell are YOU, Big shot? Have you formed a number of companies changing the shape of the future of technology and humankind, and made jobs for tens of thousands of people? Have you assembled some of the best designers, engineers, and specialists in the fields of battery technology, high-speed rail, self-driving cars, solar cells, storage batteries, and spaceships (for the first time in history - completely reusable, heavy-lift rockets)? Why are you jealous of someone so far above your level in every way that the only thing you can do is insult him, anonymously? As if he cares.
What HAVE you done, except sign onto your computer, and like a mighty midget, anonymous keyboard warrior, called someone who has taken the risks, gambled everything, and beat the odds, a "flim flam man?" HE will be remembered, for many reasons. You, on the other hand? Lol...
stop at 4:41 and freeze frame now in a rod serling voice... imagine if you will a mid section of the starship as a removable cargo pod canister with fuel or cargo that can rotate out from the body of the starship in lower orbit and at the ultimate position so as to project and propel the due said cargo to a higher obit for retrieval with a space tug ai ship... with split ban strips deploy so as to act as a double scissor clamping mechanism and then attached to the starshipstation fuel farm... one ship with four double outer cargo pods then three interlocking ships intertwined with docking ports tail and stern eventually creating a wheel with the initial docking station as the pivotal access points within the rotating permanently manned or droned space station... expanding to eventually become the propelled starship stations that make the continuous loop between the moon the earth and mars... continuous manufacturing expanding into a everflowing continuous convoy of stations with docking access ports for the cargo pods that are jettisoned and the captured for docking with the next needed item from the starship designs of the day... hmmm... end rod's voice...
Save yourself some time. This is a fanboy saying EM said something. We await evidence of claims from EM these days.
His track record has been pretty solid in the last 20 years. Show me anyone, any company, any individual, anyone or anything at all, that has been this accomplished and solid at any space related subjects...
@@michaelbill521 I’ll give him the vision to create the whole electric car shake up. And I’ll give him landing first stages of rockets, like they did in the 60s. The rest is.. less obvious. And his obsession with his aryan bros cost him my purchase of a Tesla. I’ll go with starship when it actually makes orbits, manages to open a door, transfer fuel between ships, and land. I’ll give him FSD when it’s certified. He’s exaggerated enough to mean we need evidence, not promises from now on.
@@FBDAGM2023 There is still more he and his projects and companies/teams have achieved under his leadership, then any company i can think of. His politics dont change that. He is an exeptional human, someone that comes along once in a century. I have been closely following his progress since 2008 and made good money investing in Tesla back when it went public. Sometimes its good, to look at things without personal feelings, just based on the fundamental logic alone and then judge it like that. Thats why i felt confident investing in Tesla back then. I also knew spaceX would get this big. My prediction: Tesla will grow atleast another X5 and SpaceX might become the most valuable company of our lifetimes.
@@michaelbill521 think we are going to have to agree to disagree. Only time will tell if he’s a genius or a lucky boy hyping up the stock. Good luck with your investments!
@@FBDAGM2023Time will tell? Just look what his companies have achieved so far. It simply outstrips any group, company or even government. This, “wait and see” attitude is nonsense. Look what’s in front of you.
Raptor 3 or 4 is NOT the most powerful rocket engine ever! Smh
There isn't any "Smh" about it. The F-1, and the Saturn V rockets were the most powerful. - but not that much, when you consider the fact that Starship's engines, even in its present-day 'early' iterations, are close enough (in terms of practicality) to give either engine a run for its money. And speaking of MONEY, the fact that all of SpaceX's rockets and craft are reusable, is a far more important measurement of their actual usability and longevity.
All of "the most powerful rockets ever built" were insanely expensive to design, test, and build - and all for one, single use. Billions upon billions of dollars wasted, as the boosters and every other piece of hardware fell back to Earth and died in a watery grave, except for a tiny capsule - leading to the spending of further years, manpower-hours, and build cost (another billions upon billions wasted). There comes a point, after the race is over, when NO government - not even ours, can afford to build a working, practical manned space program costing quadrillions upon quadrillions of dollars, in a never-ending stream.
Starship's engines will only get more powerful - and even more importantly, CHEAPER, because of their complete reusability - making a real, practical manned space program not only possible, but inevitable. So my question would be, "what is the most powerful and REUSABLE engine ever built?" The answer is obvious, and bragging rights to the most wasteful and powerful engine ever built, are irrelevant, asked in this context. We will never build another Saturn V, because the cost would prevent any space program from reaching beyond the moon, and at a hideous and unacceptable price.
Taken as a whole - as a FLEET - of completely reusable, take-off-and-land rockets, and fuel barges in space to feed them (until antigravity tech is unwrapped), SpaceX's rockets are the ONLY answer to the question, "How can we mount an affordable manned space program?"
Even the current V3 SpaceX engines are plenty powerful - and reusable. This has never been a factor until now - but is, in fact, even more important than bragging rights to "the most powerful rocket ever built." We are finally, solidly, in an ACTUAL Space Age, and we would never have been while the emphasis was only on power, over reusability.
Powerful AND reusable - THAT is the combination that will take us where we want to go, in an affordable and practical manner. It doesn't happen otherwise - no matter HOW powerful the rocket engines are. There would be no airline industry today if we had focused only on powerful, fast jet engines, and had to rebuild every passenger jet after we parachuted all the passengers to the ground, and then had to rebuild every jet from scratch for the next trip.
@art.is.life.eternal you took the statement "most powerful rocket engine ever" and made a statement about reusability. You are correct sir reusability is more important.
Raptor4.0? Is this supposed to solve his overweight rocket? Why no one ask the question on how is starship is supposed to fly to mars, land and takeoff again. The fly home and have fuel to land?
I’m sorry but that math doesn’t work for starship fatty.
If it can’t get higher that lowest earth orbit with booster and all the fuel on starship. This doesn’t require a mathematician. SpaceX has only two choices. Come up with a new fuel with power of nitroglycerin or shed 90% of the current weight. EOM!
No. You clearly haven't done ANY research on how SpaceX plans to achieve a Mars colony. You are using your own limited imagination and knowledge of the current state of Space rocketry and development stage, and haven't bothered to look at any of their plans. It's available.
Instead of scoffing, and pretending to know more than the thousands of people working on this program, why don't you avail yourself of a little actual knowledge?
The fuel problem has been worked out, as have many other things - but this is all still in a very early stage of development. Left to NASA, none of this would be happening at all, and we would still be building single-use rockets.
Do you know anything about SpaceX's plans to refuel in Earth orbit, just as our jet aircraft refuel while in flight? Look it up - it will be being tested very soon.
Emergency!!! THE ONLY SOTUTION!
Baffles will not work to prevent the fuel slushing problem, because the tanks of the starship system are too large. That is the only reason why the starship engines have been exploding every time.
The solution:
The tanks of Starship and Superheavy need 2 disk valves, expanding the diameter of each tank. One of the disks, the one on top, rotates above the contiguous disk to close the overlaping holes on the surface of the disks; to reduce the Size of the tank by dividing it, before any rotation or acceleration of the rocket. This will prevent slushings and protect the plumbing, if located 10% above the bottom section of each tank. Large telescopic pistons can be attached below the bottom of disk valves to control the fuel pressure as the piston expands into the fuel tank.
I have built a model that works perfectly. The second disk valve can be located 10% below the front of the tank, to also protect the front of the tanks from the slushing forces.
The gridfins are too flat and too small to be effective enough and will not be able to control the booster.
Why is Elon not using four pins instead of three to secure each heat shield tyle? Four anchor points provide far more stability to secure a tyle, not three. Also, each type should be constructed with the bottom half of the brick consisting of an interwoven latice of steal mixed into the silicon, to provide a foundation of strength and durability to each tyle. What is more important than securing the heat shield by providing the maximum stability and strength to each tyle? The interwoven steal mesh lattice mixed into the bottom half of the bricks, and the four anchor points would eliminate the problems of tyles falling off the ship every time there is an engine ignition event. Please get this message to Elon. Thank you.
Also, Spacex needs 3 actuators to move the payload bay doors correctly, not two. They have only two now, one at each end of the payload bay. They need one at the center position. Three will guarantee that there will always be enough support to open and close the doors, even if one of the three fails.
I know the spacex engineers can see these problems. It is like ignoring the elephant in the room. The solutions should be a no-brainer. Musk needs to hire people who can be trusted and who will not continue accepting bribes from Jeff Bozo to sabotage and cause unnecessary delays to the Spacex Statship program.
That's terrible. Come on, if you're going to present a video on an engineering or science based subject, please be reasonable about detailing the subject. WTF is a "thrust force"?
FASCIST
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I made it just over 3 minutes in... Now I've given a thumbs down and stopped watching. I just can't take this serious! Pull the video and change your audio.
It's amazing how Musk fanboy can distort reality! Raptor2 was created because raptor1 underperformed, and even the raptor2 did the same thing, so actually 100 tons to LEO become 50 at best according with Musk itself from two weeks ago, and even raptor3 wouldn't be good enough, so raptor4 ned to come to save the day, probably whole thing would blow up and launching 20th 5000 tons rockets only for sending four people to the moon is really insane, but not in a good way.
I DONT BELIEVE YOU
@@c.j2527 maybe you would believe Musk, when he said two weeks ago that they basically failed and need better engines, or maybe you prefer to live in your personal virtual reality in which starship performed exactly as was designed and delivered 100 tons to LEO? (which didn't happened ).
@@theOrionsarms which is not the same as witch. im not flying on a broom.
too many ads. sorry, I have to dislike it
Every ad in the video was forced by UA-cam of you look for admarkers there are none. This dude chose to have as little ads as physically possible, but yet u dislike it.
@@warframewarframe5095 There's a perfect solution to your ad problem. Look it up.
lets just hope Elon doesn't go full blown DEI
The ambitious goal of living on a dead barren lifeless planet !
vs your ambitious goal of watching youtube?
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