Bethesda BLAMES Fans for Starfield Backlash | New Low Gaslighting Fans Over Negative Steam Reviews

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  • Опубліковано 28 лис 2023
  • Starfield is easily one of the most contentious games of 2023 with mixed reception ever since the game released. Some hail starfield as the game of the genration while the majority view it as just an average at best title saying starfield is mid or mediocre while other claim starfield is bad, trash, garbage, starfield sucks, or that starfield is the worst bethesda games studio game to ever release from todd howard. Bethesda themselves have a long history of controversial interactions with their community when it comes to shifting blame for their buggy broken or often unimpressive experiences like they did with Fallout 76 in particular and things are no different with Starfield. In a completely strange turn of events Bethesda seems to be replying to all negative steam reviews on starfield with AI generated replies trying to debunk and shift the blame of the complaints stated in the review onto the player and not the game itself. This seems to be very unprecedented in the gaming industry especially when it comes to AAA or Xbox Studios in general. This latest round of damage control by Bethesda is just another sleight against fans in a long list of drama and issues surrounding Starfield. Let's hope Elder Scrolls 6 doesn't turn out to be a complete disaster.
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  • @GriffinGaming
    @GriffinGaming  6 місяців тому +252

    Oh shit, accidentally published this instead of leaving unlisted for tomorrow. Help your boy out with a like for the unintentional double upload

    • @Trompolocobruh
      @Trompolocobruh 6 місяців тому +6

      Thank you for treating us Griffin

    • @Maxximum1776
      @Maxximum1776 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah I was confused on this double upload uncharacteristic behavior from you

    • @will2777
      @will2777 6 місяців тому +4

      Thank you Lord Griffin! 👍
      BTW, DSP approved our comments from last night so here's hoping he takes advantage of our push

    • @KumoCommentary
      @KumoCommentary 6 місяців тому +3

      YESSSS KIIINNNNGGG

    • @younggarde4797
      @younggarde4797 6 місяців тому

      yOU'RE So lame.. I mean for bloody real.. you play gs and talk lol

  • @unimpressedvenom2543
    @unimpressedvenom2543 6 місяців тому +431

    The irony of using copy pasted responses to respond to reviews complaining about copy pasted planets is absolutely insane.

    • @PowerfulRift
      @PowerfulRift 6 місяців тому +12

      Based 😂

    • @silverblade357
      @silverblade357 6 місяців тому +6

      Holy shit! That's awesome! 😂

    • @RayBo
      @RayBo 6 місяців тому +6

      hahahahaha, Perfect! 😆👍

    • @dambawwe
      @dambawwe 6 місяців тому +12

      their todward sense didn't see that coming

    • @bandawin18
      @bandawin18 6 місяців тому +7

      Truly a Bethesda moment
      🍷🗿

  • @TheMC1102
    @TheMC1102 6 місяців тому +370

    "Am I the only one who understands the complexity of this ambitious gaming masterpiece? This game isn't boring. YOU're boring!" - Todd Howard, probably.

    • @SniperKing-O
      @SniperKing-O 6 місяців тому +23

      Billy and Mandy reference. x3

    • @Soup-man
      @Soup-man 6 місяців тому +16

      "YOU'RE SO FUCKING BORING!"
      -Heelvsbabyface

    • @Gentou76
      @Gentou76 6 місяців тому +8

      @@Soup-man He wasn't wrong.

    • @aytony4090
      @aytony4090 6 місяців тому +9

      ​@@Soup-manPronoun Man wins in the end

    • @convergence1point
      @convergence1point 6 місяців тому +5

      The guy everyone thought was a clown, got the last laugh in the end…good Old’e Sweet Baby…

  • @SolidRaiden2655
    @SolidRaiden2655 6 місяців тому +104

    "You can shoot" - Bethesda 2023

    • @GriffinGaming
      @GriffinGaming  6 місяців тому +48

      You can Loot

    • @megamax898
      @megamax898 6 місяців тому +31

      you can shoot, you can loot, you can even lick the boot.

    • @sidekickspam7574
      @sidekickspam7574 6 місяців тому +28

      You can play a better game.

    • @DaggerPrince
      @DaggerPrince 6 місяців тому +16

      @@GriffinGaming the worst part is when they said "You can fly". when you basically literally cant lol. youre in your ship in space for like 3 seconds, go into the menu, fast travel and land. cuz otherwise youd just have to fly for hours upon hours to get anywhere

    • @inyourgranmaass3605
      @inyourgranmaass3605 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@megamax898 😂😂😂 good one mate

  • @TheStraightestWhitest
    @TheStraightestWhitest 6 місяців тому +334

    Repeat after me, gents: It is NEVER the fans' faults.

    • @younggarde4797
      @younggarde4797 6 місяців тому +7

      You will play what you have been told to play, even if it's a bloody porn game. It's not like you really have a bloody choice, lmao.

    • @thedoomslayer5863
      @thedoomslayer5863 6 місяців тому +6

      Based name.

    • @YaaSalty...0_o
      @YaaSalty...0_o 6 місяців тому

      If you could message back customer support I would tell them you need to start paying me for debugging your game. I'm a paying customer not a developer

    • @emarskineel
      @emarskineel 6 місяців тому

      It's your fault

    • @Orange_Swirl
      @Orange_Swirl 6 місяців тому +14

      ​@emarskineel You're right. I'm very sorry. I should have developed Starfield to have less bugs and published the game in a better state.
      Oh wait, I can't. Because I didn't develop and publish the game to begin with.

  • @Delta169
    @Delta169 6 місяців тому +44

    “Am I so out of touch? No, it’s the children who are.” - Bethesda, basically

  • @DukeofNukem98
    @DukeofNukem98 6 місяців тому +161

    The astronauts stepping foot on the moon was a monumental milestone for mankind. Starfield is a freaking video game

    • @aerus3446
      @aerus3446 6 місяців тому +15

      I am sure that theres more interesting stuff going on in the surface and depths of the moon, more interesting than all of Starfield, and maybe even all of Sci-Fi. Because Reality always surpasses Fiction.

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole 6 місяців тому +19

      It's like if a game about flying planes flopped and the devs responded with;
      " Wilbur and Orville Wright weren't bored when they flew the Wright Flyer!"
      Or a ww2 game
      " our boys weren't bored when they stormed the beaches at Normandy!"

    • @KneppaH
      @KneppaH 6 місяців тому +4

      They even had vehicles to drive around with while trying to stay alive. In 1971!! 52 Years ago!

    • @TheBadderman
      @TheBadderman 6 місяців тому +3

      Sure they did.😂😂😂

    • @Somewhat-Sinister
      @Somewhat-Sinister 6 місяців тому +2

      It's not just ANY video game! It's bland Bethesda RPG #5!

  • @Krhys1
    @Krhys1 6 місяців тому +81

    It's almost as if the entire game was written and designed by AI - wouldn't put it past Bethesda to have done this.

    • @SapeHallward
      @SapeHallward 6 місяців тому +7

      MF's probably already turned Todd into an AI

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole 6 місяців тому +13

      This games script was written in the HR department not the writers room.

    • @AbstractM0use
      @AbstractM0use 6 місяців тому

      Most of the voice acting is bland, too. Almost all of the female NPC's have the same dialect and snarky attitudes.

    • @MGrey-qb5xz
      @MGrey-qb5xz 6 місяців тому

      @@AbstractM0use same thing in the trailer

    • @the_jingo
      @the_jingo 6 місяців тому +1

      An AI would’ve write a better game ngl

  • @abicrystalwing1543
    @abicrystalwing1543 6 місяців тому +68

    Our lord, Godd Howard is never wrong. If the fans are at fault, then are at fault. Help our deity by buying Starfield and the 13th anniversary edition of Skyrim

    • @CoolSs
      @CoolSs 6 місяців тому

      A proof that lord Gabe is far stronger deity. He exposed the snake oils salesman for the fraud he is. By letting people speak their mind. Down with the maker of lies todd howard.

    • @convergence1point
      @convergence1point 6 місяців тому +1

      Cant wait for Starfield Microwave edition…lmao

  • @rogerfurlong1535
    @rogerfurlong1535 6 місяців тому +57

    I've put a stupid amount of time into Skyrim, but I'm not in any rush to play Starfield.

    • @Ayana_Mitsuiro
      @Ayana_Mitsuiro 6 місяців тому +3

      Don't bother playing Boringfield.. Stick with Skyrim

    • @Mr.Canuck
      @Mr.Canuck 6 місяців тому +1

      ...or ES6.

  • @s3nate22
    @s3nate22 6 місяців тому +95

    You know the game's bad when you're publicly gaslighting this hard, two months after it's release no less.

    • @alwhitney68
      @alwhitney68 6 місяців тому

      But it's not bad, its a great game. I'm over 300 hrs in... and love it!

    • @tb1235
      @tb1235 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@alwhitney68It's an okay game, not bad. But it's objectively one of the worst BGS single player titles to have been released. BGS is going in the wrong direction and they clearly don't think they need to change a thing, this is a mentality coming from the very top in Todd Howard.

    • @johndodo2062
      @johndodo2062 6 місяців тому +11

      ​@@alwhitney68mediocre. That's the same as being bad when you have the resources Bethesda has

    • @jacobross735
      @jacobross735 6 місяців тому

      @@tb1235it’s that ancient creation engine that’s holding them back. It actually blows my mind that they were apparently working on this game for a decade and never thought that maybe it was time to ditch the godawful engine. I remember it being dated and criticized in 2015 by a lot of reviewers. But now in 2023 it’s just pathetic and inexcusable. It’s pretty sad when a 20 years old game like HL2 has better gunplay and physics than this garbage lol

  • @xKnightGuy
    @xKnightGuy 6 місяців тому +116

    When a game does terrible it's always the gamers fault. Obviously we need to get our acts together and realize our mistakes.

    • @carebearkj4320
      @carebearkj4320 6 місяців тому +17

      The worst part is that it didn’t do terrible. It’s a top seller of 2023, and while the reception is still mixed, it’s not bad either.
      All they had to from here is shut the hell up and improve the game.

    • @BenD0v3r32
      @BenD0v3r32 6 місяців тому +5

      Just like with modern movies.

    • @kmdreacts
      @kmdreacts 6 місяців тому +6

      I mean, technically, to a rich corporate worker/owner, it is...
      We (not me) keep convincing ourselves that This time it'll be good, and purchase on day 1 or pre-order, rather than wait a month or 3 for real reviews and news of qol updates and more.
      I haven't purchased/pre-ordered a game on day 1 since State of Decay 2 2018.
      Shid, I played RDR2 and AC Origins 1st time in 2021.

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole 6 місяців тому

      These darn stupid gaymers just don't understand the greatness of star slop. It's just too good for thier empty minds to comprehend.

    • @dychostarr
      @dychostarr 6 місяців тому +1

      @@kmdreacts We are rewarded for patience and saving our money for a cheaper discount. They get mad at that, and try to put more content behind pre-order as if it further validates patience with only FOMO. Currently trying to finish Yakuza 7 and it's amazing since 8 is around the corner. Bought that on sale and have a physical disc. I am legit rewarded for not buying even great games day 1. That one article that showed how many more people are waiting for sales SHOULD have proved that we are being trained by no one but them that buying day 1 is a mistake. It's wild and you know what? F it, let's enjoy ourselves on our terms not theirs.

  • @floppaapocalypse7281
    @floppaapocalypse7281 6 місяців тому +73

    That moon landing comparison has to be the biggest cope of modern history this isn't looking good for Bethesda PR if the people who made starfield are anything like this clown then that explains a lot and doesn't look good for the future.

    • @KneppaH
      @KneppaH 6 місяців тому +5

      They even had vehicles to drive around with while trying to stay alive. In 1971!! 52 Years ago!

    • @Marcustheseer
      @Marcustheseer 6 місяців тому

      i wouldnt target the "clowns"at bethesda i would do something about clowns spuwing unjust hate at this game,i played this game for a month straight and am stil regulerly playing it and 80% of the hate is just bullshit honestly.

    • @LordFinkenstein
      @LordFinkenstein 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Marcustheseerseethe more.

    • @mechanicpluto2430
      @mechanicpluto2430 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Marcustheseer"Well *I* PLAYED IT AND *I* FIND IT FUN!!!!! U ALL R JUST H8TRS!!!!111!1!!!"

  • @blacksamurai76
    @blacksamurai76 6 місяців тому +59

    Ahhhh…the blame game again, really Bethesda? 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @beeeazy9818
      @beeeazy9818 6 місяців тому +1

      Sony wasn't as helpful as they could of been 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @dychostarr
      @dychostarr 6 місяців тому +5

      @@beeeazy9818 ...I'll bite since no one mentioned Sony. Why does that matter? Anyone who blames people for not liking their game. Idc who does it, it's a bad look no matter who does it. So why did you mention Sony?

  • @voodooshark92
    @voodooshark92 6 місяців тому +44

    Not really difficult, Bethesda succumbed to the same problems a lot of developers have. Political influence and crony corporates. Fallout 4 was the space of an ocean and the depth of a puddle (probably butchered that), but I still squeezed ~3000 hours out of it because it was a fun sandbox and modders were passionate about it; similar thing applies to Skyrim. Starfield, I played for ~3 hours, saw the politics, saw the watered down fallout 4 gameplay, saw the loading screens on a modern pc, saw unstable fps between 30-60 on a 3080 in 4K, saw ESG hires yelling at me, and when I finally saw the bare naked sprawling planets... I was done. Fallout 76 had more activities and things to do at launch.

    • @TheMythOfTheThickSix
      @TheMythOfTheThickSix 6 місяців тому +6

      A mile wide and an inch deep

    • @KwadDamyj
      @KwadDamyj 6 місяців тому +5

      At least Fallout 4 had a wide variety of side gigs like settlements/making automatrons/I could go on about both FO4's strengths and weaknesses. Also, it at least had memorable companions.
      Meanwhile I have heard nothing about what Starfield does that is better than other space games.

    • @_Cypher__
      @_Cypher__ 6 місяців тому +1

      Based take

  • @MelbourneArchviz
    @MelbourneArchviz 6 місяців тому +29

    after being married for 25 years, the game feels like Wife Simulator 2.0, where you get given meaningless tasks by women for a lifetime of servitude. I got that at home no thank you.

    • @TheBadderman
      @TheBadderman 6 місяців тому

      She's not your woman, it's just your turn with her holes.

    • @Ayana_Mitsuiro
      @Ayana_Mitsuiro 6 місяців тому +4

      Boringness simulator, at least with the wife you can have fun sometimes 😂

    • @TheBadderman
      @TheBadderman 6 місяців тому +4

      @@Ayana_Mitsuiro once a month if you're lucky.

    • @BETRvids
      @BETRvids 3 місяці тому +1

      The fun starts out as tri-weekly, then over time it becomes try weekly, and eventually ends at try weakly.

    • @TheBadderman
      @TheBadderman 3 місяці тому

      @@BETRvids she already got chad and Tyrone filling her up at work.

  • @TheTha411
    @TheTha411 6 місяців тому +13

    It just flops
    -Todd Howard

  • @ivorynargie
    @ivorynargie 6 місяців тому +16

    The best thing about this whole thing, is that a friend owes me 50 bucks because we made a bet that the game was gonna be absolute shit lol

    • @convergence1point
      @convergence1point 6 місяців тому

      May they serve you well.

    • @GamerGarm
      @GamerGarm 6 місяців тому +1

      The second they said about "over a thousand planetzzz!!!" Crap I called it.
      No way to have that and be meaningful. They showed their hand clearly with that sentence alone.

    • @Mr.Canuck
      @Mr.Canuck 6 місяців тому

      Dont go and blow that $50 on ES6. 😅

    • @ivorynargie
      @ivorynargie 6 місяців тому

      @@Mr.Canuck im blowing that on mh6 100%

  • @aceclover758
    @aceclover758 6 місяців тому +9

    “Honeymoon phase”
    More like buyers remorse and suckers

  • @neonreagan6023
    @neonreagan6023 6 місяців тому +13

    Not even mods will save this game.

  • @D4rkKn1ght311
    @D4rkKn1ght311 6 місяців тому +21

    16X the salt from Todd Howard 😆

  • @YawnYea
    @YawnYea 6 місяців тому +42

    Just think that Bethesda delayed releasing a new elder scrolls for midfield 😞

    • @sidekickspam7574
      @sidekickspam7574 6 місяців тому +20

      Elder Scrolls 6 is gonna be mid, too. My suggestion: Avowed.

    • @-pressxtostart-
      @-pressxtostart- 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@sidekickspam7574😂

    • @acev3521
      @acev3521 6 місяців тому +8

      @@sidekickspam7574Avoved will be dogwater get dragons dogma II

    • @JayDamaso78
      @JayDamaso78 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@acev3521dragons dogma 1 is overrated

    • @aytony4090
      @aytony4090 6 місяців тому

      ​@JayDamaso78 It is but the original vision for the game is impressive but was rushed and had half its content cut. The sequel seems to be changing that.

  • @Matronammfly
    @Matronammfly 6 місяців тому +15

    I couldn't even play the game I constantly had frame drops, stuttering dialogue, the game would crash way to often, and the NPC's would talk way before their mouths would even start moving. I refunded it almost immediately. And the sad part is this was all happening on the lowest settings; and I have a PC that is way more than capable to handle the game

  • @Thedog9
    @Thedog9 6 місяців тому +24

    Starfield feels like a game from 2009. I was expecting something that only a current gen console could pull off, instead it was an Xbox360 game

    • @1beatcher
      @1beatcher 6 місяців тому +1

      It fealt like playing Fallout 3 imo

    • @EternalNightingale
      @EternalNightingale 6 місяців тому +5

      Don’t disrespect fallout 3 like that

  • @shazmodeus2795
    @shazmodeus2795 6 місяців тому +7

    "when the astronauts went to the moon there was nothing that and they weren't bored!" Well no s**t, they traveled 250,000 miles to a different celestial body in the harshest of conditions to explore something no person had ever explored before. Starfield players are sitting in their bedroom, playing a space game that's been done far better many times over.

  • @slow9573
    @slow9573 6 місяців тому +11

    They are reaching critical cringe levels

  • @AncestorEmpireGaming
    @AncestorEmpireGaming 6 місяців тому +26

    They’ve always been this way, and Microsoft over paid for them.

    • @acev3521
      @acev3521 6 місяців тому

      The ips alone were worth way more than 7 billion dollars they can always just shitcan these people if Microsoft wants to.

    • @AncestorEmpireGaming
      @AncestorEmpireGaming 6 місяців тому +6

      @@acev3521 the key phrase: “if Microsoft wants to”
      And by today’s standards, I wouldn’t hold my breathe

    • @TheMythOfTheThickSix
      @TheMythOfTheThickSix 6 місяців тому +1

      @@AncestorEmpireGamingnot really they will make there money back

    • @AncestorEmpireGaming
      @AncestorEmpireGaming 6 місяців тому

      @@TheMythOfTheThickSix companies that blame the fanbase, usually don’t make their money back.

    • @sparkyspinz9897
      @sparkyspinz9897 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@AncestorEmpireGaming I wouldn't either but it's possible. With Bethesda only putting out like 1 or 2 games a decade, it's gonna take them ages to make that investment back, even if each game sells well. I wouldn't be surprised to eventually see some spin off titles made by other Microsoft owned studios

  • @mr.critical5523
    @mr.critical5523 6 місяців тому +20

    The only way i can see this game getting a surge in players is if the modding scene is off the chain spectacular.

    • @sparkyspinz9897
      @sparkyspinz9897 6 місяців тому +7

      That won't be anytime soon. The best mods out there often take years after release to come out. They don't even have the mod tools yet, and honestly idk how many modders will care to work on this game

    • @smokingbarrels7019
      @smokingbarrels7019 6 місяців тому

      Starfield will never have the same modding scene as earlier games by Bethesda

  • @The_Endless_Now
    @The_Endless_Now 6 місяців тому +13

    With this, I find the notion that half of Starfield itself was written by AI *much more believable.*
    There are hundreds of these bot responses on the Steam Store page, so if anyone wants some free cringe (entertainment), you'll find it there

  • @ChinDogToshi
    @ChinDogToshi 6 місяців тому +8

    It really sucks. I wish they'd stuck with 5 to 10 planets hand-crafted rather than procedurally generated 1,000+. Hoping Elder Scrolls 6 is better.

  • @user-lo4wm2pu3h
    @user-lo4wm2pu3h 6 місяців тому +45

    It's unfortunate. Bethesda made some of the greatest games of all time like oblivion and morrowind. They have been on a downhill sense fallout 3 imo not money wise but quality wise. It was bound to catch up with them eventually. as much as I hated fallout 4 you could still have fun playing it.

    • @Joseph-kj9nk
      @Joseph-kj9nk 6 місяців тому +11

      Fallout 4 had really get environmental story telling which I like best from Bethesda games and that’s what really made it feel alive. Now it’s just so dead everything’s the same, you have to put 20 hours in starfield to find one unique encounter of environmental storytelling, and then you gotta play another 20 hours to find the next encounter. Doing that gets so boring. And god I swear I was the most excited fan for starfield since those 2016 leaks (I think 2016, I forget) and for starfield to be this bland really shattered a dream of mind. I wanted starfield to be this amazing space rpg where you can build a huge crew and have a voyage on your own spaceship and fly right across different planets seeing all the beauty it had to offer and have a great story which allowed you to build the world around you into a utopia of an space lovers dream

    • @convergence1point
      @convergence1point 6 місяців тому +3

      Had a similar desire. Even got this game for friends. I feel like an absolute heel with this game. I have absolutely no desire to touch TES6 because how awful this game is.

    • @slicedtopieces
      @slicedtopieces 6 місяців тому +6

      The shallowness criticism for Starfield is the same exact way I feel about Skyrim (and I never played F04 because I learned my lesson). FO3 (while it had it's own problems) was truly the last title I felt had more going for it than detracting which is rough because that game is 15 years old...
      _"It was bound to catch up with them eventually."_ I think Bethesda is coming to terms with the fact that Starfield won't be another 10 year cash cow like Skyrim. At the moment it looks like they're trying to pivot to paid mods for Skyrim and FO4 again. Not a good sign for a creative company. 😕

    • @marshallbeck9101
      @marshallbeck9101 6 місяців тому +2

      Oblivion and fallout 4 are the only Bethesda games I like

    • @user-lo4wm2pu3h
      @user-lo4wm2pu3h 6 місяців тому +1

      @@marshallbeck9101 well I understand why some people don't like morrowind it kinda has a learning curve if your used to oblivion or Skyrim. There is a shit ton of text to read as well

  • @lamikal2515
    @lamikal2515 6 місяців тому +6

    I never thought Bethesda would use their own NPCs as customer service "representative".

  • @markus5237
    @markus5237 6 місяців тому +9

    Two videos in a day. Bless you

    • @GriffinGaming
      @GriffinGaming  6 місяців тому +4

      I promise it was an accident. Don’t get used to it lmao

  • @kuro_kishi
    @kuro_kishi 6 місяців тому +5

    _"When the astronauts went to the moon there was nothing there. They certainly weren´t bored."_
    So, Bethesda, if I always win in a racing game, does that mean I'll be the best racer in real life?

  • @eagleclaws1781
    @eagleclaws1781 6 місяців тому +8

    Nevermind the fact that the Developers of Starfield removed alot of Game Mechanics like proper enviromental hazards that do more than give you a simple debuff and survival mechanics (Alot of different consumables that do the exact same thing), and when playtesting the developers heavily reduced the combat capabilities of AI NPCs, because they found fighting them "Not Fun".
    And then there is the lack of Player Freedom because almost every Dialogue option has the same 1-2 results regardless of how you play and it feels like a third of NPCs is just outright essential

  • @buffgarfield3231
    @buffgarfield3231 6 місяців тому +9

    I am glad it only took me an hour to figure out I hated it.

  • @CoolSs
    @CoolSs 6 місяців тому +15

    15:04 Because it's happening slowly and naturally . They can't blame it on review bombing. The game sold a lot despite the pronouns controversy so they can't blame some invisible reasons for their own failures. And the reviews are in open platform that you need to own the game to leave a review and most reviews are by people who have ton of hours in the game.

  • @bigkabuto
    @bigkabuto 6 місяців тому +76

    Apparently it was community managers and support staff doing it, not the actual devs. I can imagine actual devs having something better to do with their time.

    • @ergohash2517
      @ergohash2517 6 місяців тому +23

      i am sure the actual devs are facepalming and feeling embarasement for these cringe PR/customer support decisions

    • @bigkabuto
      @bigkabuto 6 місяців тому +6

      @@ergohash2517 Yup. It's not a good look, but what can you do. Hopefully those that did this crap....well..let them make sure it doesn't happen again.

    • @erobertwicker
      @erobertwicker 6 місяців тому +2

      I sure hope they can get their act together before TES VI comes out. Huge elder scrolls fan, and I love what they’ve done with the series so far. It would pain me to see that game take the same route that Starfield did.

    • @AbstractM0use
      @AbstractM0use 6 місяців тому +2

      Hopefully the actual devs are too busy trying to fix their game, or putting some effort into ES6 and Fallout 5 to mock the people that keep them employed.

    • @juancarlosalonso5664
      @juancarlosalonso5664 6 місяців тому +2

      Considering all the copy-pasted assets present in Starfield, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was them. As a former Bethesda fan, after Fallout 4, Fallout 76 and Starfield (which is Fallout 4.2) I just don’t care about whatever they make next.

  • @r.e.z9428
    @r.e.z9428 6 місяців тому +9

    I cant believe GmanLives called Starfield a masterpiece, I hope the check was worth it.

    • @Boredasfuck29
      @Boredasfuck29 6 місяців тому +7

      He also said a guy who posted GTA 4 gameplay should be sent to prison because the guy shot NPCs in the video lol

  • @DaggerPrince
    @DaggerPrince 6 місяців тому +14

    When I first played Starfield, I really enjoyed it. Just like you described, during the honeymoon phase it seemed like a good game. But once that phase was over.. 🤢. And I think I know why that is aswell. In RPGs youre meant to be able to play them like a millions of times and keep getting different outcomes from characters, quests, endings etc. taking different routes in the story and so on. But in Starfield. There is basically no "Role Play" in this game At All. And it Especially got showed thanks to Baldur"s Gate 3 which is the best RPG that has ever come out - meanwhile Starfield is only Pretending to be an RPG. Basically there is only One specific path that you can go as a character, you cant deviate from it anyhow, in any quest, at all. Wanna be evil? You cant. Wanna kill everyone in Constellation? You cant - theyre immortal. Because in an RPG which is supposed to be about your choice, about whatever you wanna do, they Didnt wanna let you make choices. They didnt wanna let you make your story and play how you want - you can Only play it specifically how they want you to. And this shows through the Companions too - you can only romance 4 characters, in Skyrim you could romance like 50. And in Starfailed all the companions are goody-two-shoes boy-n-girl-scouts - once again, if you wanna progress theyre romance, youre Forced to be "good" or else theyll hate you.
    In Baldurs Gate 3 theres alot of romance options and some of them are morally-neutral, some flat out evil, so you can really be who you wanna be through the whole game and the class, race, background etc. really do change your game and how you play in Baldurs Gate. It honestly does nothing in Starfield. SF basically Pretends to be what Baldurs Gate 3 actually is. When I played Starfield the first time, I played a "good" character. So I was unknowingly playing exactly how they wanted me to. And when I finished it I thought it was nice - then when I wanted to play it again a second time, I found out that you actually cant do Anything else than what Ive been doing. And I realized how bad the game is. Also there are Factions you can join - some of which are Mortal Enemies - and you can join all of them at the same time, cuz Todd Coward wanted you to be able to "finish all quests in one playthrough". But if you do that, you take away the chance for the player to start another playthrough and see what happens if they join another faction that they couldnt join before. It would make your choices feel like they Actually matter if the faction whos an Enemy to your current faction doesnt take you in. Its also funny how in a game with Infinite Universes, they wanted you to be able to do everything in one universe... Why? What is the Actual point in going to another universe then? The ground-work was literally there. And they screwed it up. And yeah it sucks to lose everything in the new world.

    • @NthnLikeCodeine
      @NthnLikeCodeine 6 місяців тому +1

      Forreal man I feel the exact same way, very well said.

    • @nlmnyc
      @nlmnyc 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes, very well put. You brought up a great point - a perfect scenario for multiple playthroughs squandered.

    • @Ayana_Mitsuiro
      @Ayana_Mitsuiro 6 місяців тому +2

      It's designed so you will enjoy the first 50 hours, basically the journalists who review games probably won't test a game for more than 10 hours so it's why they get good reviews in the medias. But when you start doing NG+ runs it's were you actually realized that you will be doing the same fucking quests again and again (and maybe except for two factions they are boring).. it's fine for maybe 3-4 times but after that you become incredibly bored. There is no real exploration, 1000 boring planets with rocks and dust. Even the power temples are shit, float right, float left, float up and poof you get the power.. Seriously ? One of the things i enjoyed in Skyrim, Oblivion was exploring Ayleds Ruins, etc.. There is no such thing in Boringfield. Even the whole outpost buiding doesn't make sense, why would you build gigantic bases on many planets to craft things and spend a lot of hours in it if you lose it all in NG+ ? It's like playing Satisfactory for 500 hours and then you just erase your save game (Wtf)

  • @classifiedxxx5041
    @classifiedxxx5041 6 місяців тому +7

    To make this even worse their doing it on fallout 76 reviews which funny enough has better reviews than starfield

  • @Manni6767
    @Manni6767 6 місяців тому +4

    The “No Man’s Sky killer” 😂💀

  • @musicology3552
    @musicology3552 6 місяців тому +5

    I'd pay good money to see the entire development team to defend their own game on a live stream.
    Just put Todd in front of a green screen and read out super chats with no moderation. They'd make million getting completely dunked on.

    • @Ayana_Mitsuiro
      @Ayana_Mitsuiro 6 місяців тому +1

      I really want someone to interview Turd Howard and try to explain why this game isn't boring.

  • @OskyWasky
    @OskyWasky 6 місяців тому +24

    Two videos in one day Griffin is really on the grind I guess pokey calling him a broke boy really got to him🤣GGG

    • @GriffinGaming
      @GriffinGaming  6 місяців тому +15

      Gotta buy a new pallet of Ramen to make it through the winter

  • @Daggerpaw1
    @Daggerpaw1 6 місяців тому +7

    I have very little faith in Bethesda to deliver with TES 6 nowadays. If they don't upgrade their engine to something more modern then they're going to die eventually. Starfield was far too ambitious of an idea for their tools and staffing. Bethesda magic works for real but it does have a shelf life.

    • @ali6ism
      @ali6ism 5 місяців тому

      At this point I don't trust them to be alone in a room unsupervised with tes 6. I fear what they'll do to it

  • @Official_RetroMania
    @Official_RetroMania 6 місяців тому +6

    Bathesda gathering more L's than the number of planets in Starfield.

    • @aceclover758
      @aceclover758 6 місяців тому

      I wouldn’t say so. They sold and made their money backs
      The suckers that bought it are taking the Ls

  • @simple-commentator-not-rea7345
    @simple-commentator-not-rea7345 6 місяців тому +3

    And I thought it was only the stans that told me I'm not allowed to call this game boring, soulless, lazy, shallow, and sleep-inducing

  • @ddsharknads7782
    @ddsharknads7782 6 місяців тому +8

    I left a negative review on Doom Eternal a while back saying the gameplay loop got stale, and fighting the same handful of enemies over and over, and having to use the meta weapons killed the game for me. I got a response very similar from Bethesda, basically saying it's my fault that I didn't notice the subtle differences between the enemies.

    • @postapocalypse0763
      @postapocalypse0763 6 місяців тому +1

      Would you have a screen cap? I wonder how long they have been doing this...

  • @Lab_Analyst
    @Lab_Analyst 6 місяців тому +2

    That Skyrim music still touches my soul man 😢

  • @skyrimisforthenords8312
    @skyrimisforthenords8312 6 місяців тому +9

    I have played oblivion and skyrim for thousands of hours and morrowind for 100s. Im a big tes fanboy. I was willing to forgive A LOT with starfield, because i know bgs strengths and weaknesses and i do think, generally, what they get right is very unique, immersive, and replayable. I abhor this game for a myriad of reasons. It ups all their faults to 11/10, adds esg bs, and removes everything that makes tes games great

  • @tahuluke6133
    @tahuluke6133 6 місяців тому +5

    In my country this game is $130 (like $15 more in US dollars) base game, $185 deluxe. Even going off US dollars for some reason this game is $10 more than the standard $60, that alone tells me every reason why I shouldn't get this game

    • @charlescaulkins8306
      @charlescaulkins8306 6 місяців тому

      It needs to be this expensive! I HAVE A FAMILY TO FEED!
      "Starfield. I have a family to feed." -not a PSP commercial or Egoraptor parody reference.

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole 6 місяців тому

      Well you can thank S*NY for raising game prices and forcing Microsofts hand to do the same since people will think that xbox games aren't as good if the prices are lower.

  • @abloun1575
    @abloun1575 6 місяців тому +3

    Exploring planets in a vidya is as exciting as the real moon dood.

  • @ragmanx6256
    @ragmanx6256 6 місяців тому +3

    Fair statement, considering bugthesda has come to rely on modders to fix their broken games lol. There isn't a single one of their titles that I actually enjoy without mods, and I'm confidence Starfield will be no different in a few years after modders have gotten their hands on it for a while.

  • @camraid9
    @camraid9 6 місяців тому +3

    Trying to remember anything from Starfield, it's hard because everything is so forgettable.

  • @trentinlamar2026
    @trentinlamar2026 6 місяців тому +6

    Loading screen field is a good game🤓🤓🤓

  • @Angelfyre.
    @Angelfyre. 6 місяців тому +2

    It’s crazy how Bethesda thought it would be fun to search for things to do. In Skyrim, Fallout 4 & even in Fallout 76 you would passively come across interesting things that would lead into quests, you didn’t always have to scrounge and scrape to find them. In Starfield you have maybe 40-60 hrs of meaningful quests and the rest are either repetitive quests or neat geographical locations to look at for a few minutes before moving on to more emptiness.

  • @Supremeleaderofsovietunion
    @Supremeleaderofsovietunion 6 місяців тому +5

    2 videos in the same day,has Christmas come early or what?

  • @randomcrandoface2363
    @randomcrandoface2363 6 місяців тому +3

    I was thinking about picking the game up, now I don't know... Probably not.

    • @chance0marasso
      @chance0marasso 6 місяців тому +2

      I'm not overly defending anything just my personal opinion. I'm enjoying the game, I'd say if you have interest, give it a try. It's not my favorite Bethesda game but honestly I've been having alot of fun.

    • @1beatcher
      @1beatcher 6 місяців тому +1

      If I was you, I would wait for it to be $20.

  • @ChaosAngelZero
    @ChaosAngelZero 6 місяців тому +3

    Wide as the universe, shallow as Pokimane.

  • @vert2552
    @vert2552 6 місяців тому +3

    Starfield recently hit new record with lowest recorded player number on steam: 8,8k

  • @VykeKing
    @VykeKing 6 місяців тому +3

    Ironically Mass Effect which came out in 2007 has far better planet exploration, plus you get a rover to actually explore with.

  • @CornFarmer64
    @CornFarmer64 6 місяців тому +1

    That comment about the astronauts “certainly not being bored” was actually pretty funny to read.

  • @joenewson3376
    @joenewson3376 6 місяців тому +3

    imagine playing a game for 400 hours then saying you dont like it online 🤦🏿‍♂️😂😂🤣

  • @blaket1841
    @blaket1841 6 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if Bethesda thought this was their next Skyrim that they could remaster or rerelease 30 times for continual monetization. They've been on a cold streak since 2011.

  • @silverblade357
    @silverblade357 6 місяців тому +2

    Hey, Bethesda. Go ahead and ask Hollywood how well this kind of behavior works. I'll be ready to fact check!

  • @NthnLikeCodeine
    @NthnLikeCodeine 6 місяців тому +2

    ***wrote a whole ah book***
    One of the worst parts about Starfield for me (got me so annoyed I’m on here yapping about it) is that the factions were done awfully! My first play through I wanted to play as a space pirate so I could play as the bad guy and not worry about rep and so on, so I did the appropriate quests to join the crimson fleet only to find out that 80% of the planetary outposts and discoverable locations are occupied by them making it so they don’t attack you. It was really hard playing as the bad guy space pirate when most of the people and ships I came across were also fellow space pirates. Completely made me question why they’re even called pirates if they own half the fucking galaxy. Even on one of the final missions I was met with more friendly space pirates so what was supposed to be an intense gunfight (one of the very few in the game) was a complete walk in the park, literally. Even more so, there are already “spacers” which i don’t think you can join and that I saw maybe 2 times in my entire playthrough; why aren’t these guys the most common enemy if they’re not even a faction but a word for random space enemies. Building was a pain in the ass with MnK and I could write a second essay about all the other problems.

  • @thespankmachine663
    @thespankmachine663 6 місяців тому +4

    Good argument, Griff. But did you forget that in this game, you could shoot?

  • @peckneck2439
    @peckneck2439 6 місяців тому +1

    It's mind blowing to me how in their minds one of humanity's biggest achievements like moon landing could be in any way comparable to landing on a moon in a video game... I mean, dude... like...dude...

  • @Pathfinders_Ascend
    @Pathfinders_Ascend 6 місяців тому +1

    If they spent half as much time seeing their games to completion as they do pettily responding to customers, modders wouldn't have to pick up the slack of their continual failings.

  • @djmccullough9233
    @djmccullough9233 6 місяців тому +3

    Have to agree with your take there. I felt it was a 7 at first. but yeah its a 5 after stepping back. I feel that could MAYBE go up in the future, if the mod scene kicks in and improves the game, like they normally do bethesda games.

  • @tudomerda
    @tudomerda 6 місяців тому +1

    The first mod I installed was the Skip dialogue mod, couldn't stand the brain dead dialogue nor the obnoxious shaming quips from the female npc's, the dev's in charge of the narration and dialogue have no idea what constitutes banter, NONE. Then there's the terrible copy paste of locations/buildings/outposts right down to the positioning and behavior of the NPC's in the buildings, its a disgrace how they've copy pasted everything.

  • @Aysentaro
    @Aysentaro 6 місяців тому +2

    its like those 50 in 1 NES games, endless fun

  • @TheRealDarthias
    @TheRealDarthias 6 місяців тому

    What is the music you use in the background for this video @GriffinGaming?
    It's really nice and chill.

  • @shlakenjake
    @shlakenjake 6 місяців тому

    What is that song played at the beginning of the video. That's from Skyrim, right?

  • @acev3521
    @acev3521 6 місяців тому +1

    You’re right this literally feels like an intern misclicking and letting chat GPT go ham.

  • @Yashieyama
    @Yashieyama 6 місяців тому

    The funny thing is, bioware already did this in mass effect 1, and even though the planets you go to is pretty boring, it's not always completely empty. There are either alien animals inhabiting the world's, enemies, or both. And at least the world's actually help with the progress in the game.

  • @QuiteSpiffing
    @QuiteSpiffing 6 місяців тому +2

    Do these Bethesda community reps think we're like 5 years old? Jesus Christ the amount of patronising bullcrap on display...
    The amount of times they refer to the moon landing and the astronauts feelings, like yeah no shit. I'd be hella excited to step off the LEM and look around on the moon's surface, but we're not on the LEM or the moon, we're in our offices or game rooms playing a videogame. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far.

  • @gethinfiltrator6700
    @gethinfiltrator6700 6 місяців тому +2

    Can you imagine using AI and valve just banning them for botting because it's literally what it is.

  • @mattt21
    @mattt21 6 місяців тому +1

    It sounds like they’re begging the players they have to keep playing. Yikes. They know this flopped.

  • @n0denz
    @n0denz 6 місяців тому +1

    1:22 You just described my experience with Fallout 4. I reached a point while looking through cabinets for loot and, looking at my inventory, realized that none of my guns were interesting, none of what I was picking up mattered, and that I had little reason to explore at all. I closed the game, uninstalled it, and never touched it again.

    • @slicedtopieces
      @slicedtopieces 6 місяців тому +1

      It seems like we all get to that point with Bethesda titles eventually. For you it was FO4, for me it was Skyrim. Some of the older guys felt that way about FO3 even. Now a fresh crop are feeling this way about Starfield.
      Maybe it's simply a result of getting older though I nonetheless still can't help but think that objectively Bethesda titles have gotten blander over time.

    • @n0denz
      @n0denz 6 місяців тому +1

      @@slicedtopieces It took me awhile to realize just how boring Skyrim actually was. It hit me when I'd finally finished downloading a slew of mods and realized that I had zero interest in playing the game after. Though when Skyrim was released, I thought it was superior to Oblivion in every way. It's only in the last few years that I've come to have a real appreciation for that game's writing.

    • @slicedtopieces
      @slicedtopieces 6 місяців тому +1

      @@n0denz Yeah, I didn't play Skyrim when it first came out so I missed all the hype. When I did play it, like you, I modded it to heck but came to realise I was basically fighting the game constantly to make it more fun than it was actually designed to be. Maybe I'll take another look at Oblivion though.

  • @yeastydynasty
    @yeastydynasty 6 місяців тому

    I made a different character with the serpents embrace, romanced Andreja and it was the same F'n dialogue as it was when I didn't have the serpents embrace...

  • @someguy4384
    @someguy4384 6 місяців тому +1

    Fishing in real life:
    Fun, engaging, exciting, and full of friendship, familial bonds, and beer.
    Fishing in videogames:
    Pretty gay.
    And yet no fishing game has ever said "Well fishing in real life is exciting, so that makes our game exciting."

  • @ioshinigami2165
    @ioshinigami2165 6 місяців тому

    what's the name of the song playing in the background?

  • @TheMikepatota
    @TheMikepatota 6 місяців тому

    You’re the first person to read responses like these out loud, the same exact way I read them in my head that I’ve come across.

  • @CoolSs
    @CoolSs 6 місяців тому +1

    I called it day one. I called the game trash. How the F people still get blinded after fallout 4 and 76. bethesda literally build their success on others work and doing marketing analysis to what buzz word they should build their next game on.

  • @scarecrow2272
    @scarecrow2272 6 місяців тому +2

    It's not the player's fault your game is this way

  • @onomee130
    @onomee130 6 місяців тому +2

    you guys just dont understand, those are not bugs, boring mecanics, old gameplay and technical aspects, those are features

  • @manyanisilavwe8534
    @manyanisilavwe8534 6 місяців тому

    Where's the background music from?

  • @dendanskehelt4296
    @dendanskehelt4296 6 місяців тому

    Did.... did they just compare an empty planet from a VIDEOGAME to an actual real moon landing?

  • @ryanshadow507
    @ryanshadow507 6 місяців тому +3

    This is just sad and hard to believe at this point. I honestly thought this a parody when they mentioned the irl moon landing. But Starfield does nothing good enough to justify buying it imo. Bethesda has better rpgs like Skyrim and for space exploration No Man's Sky is a better game at this point.

  • @marvinscheer1028
    @marvinscheer1028 6 місяців тому

    I did what i wanted to do in Starfield and had my fun with it. Now i'm waiting for the many needed quest fixes, additional content and mod support.

  • @stephandeklerk7568
    @stephandeklerk7568 6 місяців тому

    hom many loading screens did the Astronauts have when they traveled to the moon?

  • @drekon6939
    @drekon6939 6 місяців тому +1

    Played for one hour, then noped out. Game was boring and tedious. Then I got told it "gets better in a few hours". Like, why the fuck would I want to play a game that takes several hours to get fun? What is this bullshit?

  • @Dragoonsoul7878
    @Dragoonsoul7878 6 місяців тому

    I remember when early on people praised this as they saw the potential of the game.
    They forgot a game made by Bethesda looks like it has potential but is mostly 3 things with different flavor and passives which actually change nothing.

  • @nnnneeeeuuuu
    @nnnneeeeuuuu 6 місяців тому +1

    O get why they thought it was good, but they weren’t looking from the outside, the game just doesn’t click for a lot of people

  • @marasmorgean5813
    @marasmorgean5813 6 місяців тому +1

    Its even darker. Besides the gaslighting they try to redirect the reviews away from steam by encouraging players to use their own form...
    Its ironic how everybody literally tells them what they like to have in the game and still, they go the oposite way...at least people "care" up to this point. One day bethesda will release a game with 30 copys sould after 1 month - and there will be no feedback any more, because people started to give a fuck.

  • @ivantagunov394
    @ivantagunov394 6 місяців тому +1

    It's written like a joke from Fallout 3 terminal, a joke about soulless evil corporation, lol

  • @jeanpomme8282
    @jeanpomme8282 6 місяців тому

    You pin pointed exactly what i feel about the game, once the honeymoon phased passed, you kinda ''open your eyes''

  • @saleemkhokhar3458
    @saleemkhokhar3458 6 місяців тому +1

    Todd Howard got the nerve to blame fan for having "outdated" PC

  • @SuperZaiyan9
    @SuperZaiyan9 6 місяців тому

    Quick question: why should we take concurrent player counts into question for single player games. I get multiplayer games as those need an alive player base to stay afloat but with single player games, people usually just play them once and move on