If a surgeon is having a mental breakdown right before surgery, I would hope that surgeon would skip that operation and have another surgeon step in. I don’t want someone who isn’t completely there to operate on a person. It’s as simple as that.
Great analogy. The same people who would say that someone with mental issues should just dig deep to complete their task would not like a Surgeon that's having a mental breakdown working on them. A lot of people don't understand something until it affects them.
Man when Aba said how many people have died from a broken leg vs how many people have died from mental health, it hit home. I appreciate sensible people like Aba and Preach
nice one, this will be the new norm, most people I adore and admire have been going through alot but they stay strong and I am very happy about that, they've me to push on even in my weak times.
Don't worry. They are hearing it. It's getting to be a pretty big topic on UA-cam right now, and it's to the point where big names, CEOS, and shit are responding with their own videos to try and convince people that they are important, irreplaceable, and other lies to keep you working in toxic environments.
As an Afghan Vet, there are many different reasons people can get PTSD. An Engineer in the bombsquad may need to go defuse an IED (fuck that noise) after watching his best mate get blown to pieces days before. Then has nightmares every night for the rest of his life. I dont imagine most western civilians to understand but when you talk shit about PTSD it shows that you probably dont understand how life can be very hard. Especially for Afghan civilians that go through it everyday. Peace A&P.
@@lovinmclovin5290 you’re a goof cuz he wasn’t comparing the two, he was using it as an example of how mental health could be even more dangerous when not taken seriously especially if you’re job requires you to put your life on the line along with others
The fact that 'triggered' has been co-opted by a bunch of unemployable professional victims who cry if the wind blows due east has made this problem 1000X worse.
I have PTSD, but not from being in the military. However, I've been through some pretty traumatic stuff. I've been diagnosed with it by professionals . It's not fun having this and it's shitty when people don't understand.
In the case of the black community, it's not even just always feeling the need to be strong. It's being indoctrinated into certain beliefs such as, "black people don't go to therapy, they go to church." I remember spouting that nonsense in my teenage years...that's beyond damaging. I have no problem with religion, and I believe in God but sometimes religion mixed with untreated mental issues can do more harm than good.
If you’re hearing voices you’re schizophrenic If you label that voice god, you’re a prophet It’s not surprising the church or other organised religions can mask a lot of this stuff
@@marlonthomas8042 actually alot of the time it's not actual voices, rather signs or signals often seen by those that want to see and or "hear" it. It's an extremely dangerous mentality and doctrine to act as if those that claim they feel or see or hear what they are technically forcing a feeling they're pushing so hard to feel as if they are crazy. It doesn't necessarily make them crazy for believing what they believe in, especially when majority of people use that as an escape. Just as people imagine they're on vacation "feeling" what they're thinking of like the sun, or the beach, people feel their own happiness and or escapes.
IMO, church CAN help ppl, BUT mental health is important. Don't you think God made man see how these ppl are suffering and provided ppl who can help them? I like to believe God provides a way for us to better ourselves and to care for others. If Jonas Salk had not been born would we have the polio vaccine? Sorry, I have a strange way of thinking.
This is not just a “black community” thing. To suggest that only black ppl have a lack of empathy and understanding when it comes to mental health, is absolutely ignorant. There were plenty of white ppl who dismissed Simone Biles. Stop spreading these stereotypes that are based on anecdotal experiences.
@@NoMetsNoNetsNoJets She didn’t say it was just a black community thing my guy.🤦🏾”In the case of the black community” is what she said. It’s a difference.
I just got a 6 figure job a month ago and I immediately told my husband, who's been miserable at his job for months, that he can quit now. I've seen what this job is doing to my husband's mental health, and therefore to our family and this is NOT what I want for him, for us. I commend him, he's been patient, a great professional, he's held it together for so long. But enough is enough, I'll always have his back. I told him to go the next day and quit on the spot.
Semi personal story. While I was in the military, a drinking buddy of mine was regaling us with his not so glorious stories of his 5 deployments. He had medals for each one. Then we got our deployment orders. He begged the NCO to put him on "rear D" (for non military types, that is rear defense where the person would stay back at base and not be taken to the combat areas). The NCO refused stating his expertise in the combat situation. He stated his mental health was too poor to go again. A couple days later, that same NCO told him that the first Sargeant denied the his request saying, "if he stayed behind he would be a 'quiter'". He stabbed his NCO with a combat knife. The guy and the NCO had drinks the night before our orders came in. They were close and he was willing to sacrifice his military career, his friendship with this guy, and his freedom all to not go. His mental health was really Shakey and noone would listen. the NCO was treated and recovered, and he was court martialed but he got off of the charges because the (still injured) NCO he stabbed was a character witness for him. He did get discharged based on mental stability but he couldn't function in society. He took his own life 2 years after discharge. I have seen mental health being taken for granted in many circumstances, but it hurts me to think of him still to this day even though that was in 2005.
I am a retired Corpsman(8404) 21 years I saw the same kind of things, this is par for the course in the Military. It's not that they don't care ( they don't) but we are just tools products to use and if we break so be it. I can go over to NHSD across the street to the park and find some of my old shipmates mentally, physically and almost always emotionally broken. The military definitely takes mental health for granted they rather kick you out that treat it, sometimes for obvious reason and sometimes for not so obvious reasons.
This video isn't solely about PTSD & Soldiers. This is about our "GRIND THROUGH IT" attitude surrounding mental health issues in general. People are quick to label those alive today with depression or other issues as soft or quitters or cowards looking for a way out. Keep in mind that these kinds of phrases used to be used on veterans all the time. Depression... Self Deletion, Mental issues. They were always around, we just never talked about it and now that folks are people are just like "WHOA... WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM.. ALL THESE PEOPLE. THEY MUST BE FAKING". Yeah folks are faking it soo hard, thats why self deletions are reaching record highs. Just because you cant see it, doesnt mean they arent suffering from it. Im not asking you to believe it, you dont have to believe in something oyu dont see. BUT WHY ACTIVELY SHAME OR DISBELIEVE SOMETHING YOU HAVE NO INFORMATION ON. You could be injured and folks may not be able to see it including doctors, that doesnt lessen your physical hurt. You wouldnt want folks labeling you for pain that they cant see and this happens all the time. Lets be mindful that this is their body, their mind and if they say they are suffering only they really know so lets not make their situation potentially worse with callous words.
That guy is a ignorant fool. You can't comprehend what he doesn't know, so he justifies it with his ignorance and lack of critical thinking or knowledge. Only, when he experience it then he would understand!
You know what I’m very happy and grateful that I read this at the start, it helps put you in a different mind set and allows you to broaden YOUR knowledge. Imma Read the comment From Aba and Preach at the start know instead of the beginning.
The entire thing was because she was being praised as a hero for it instead of the people who kept going the spotlight was on her instead of the people competing is that fair? She was being called a hero no she is not it was disappointing she backed out but she is NOT a f ing hero all these people coming up with excuses for her saying stuff she never said originally which did NOT help its warranted criticism ps I was a paramedic for a few years I've seen some bad ish i worked through my problems through the proper channels I know not everyone is the same but elevating these types of people is wrong
I just want to say thank you for using your platform to speak on this issue. No matter the viewpoint on it, it just needs to be discussed openly. If we keep normalizing the conversation, us veterans and others suffering from PTSD can get the help they truly need and DESERVE. Just...thank you. Won't even entertain the gentleman stating they're "quitters." I want to focus on the fact that you guys have used a very large platform with tons of diverse viewers to shed light on a very serious subject.
I've seen "quitter" used to manipulate people into staying in abusive relationships. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is quit and walk away. That takes courage. And the right thing to do is to set boundaries and sometimes that means saying no, quitting and walking away.
[I've heard it joked that AA is for quitters! But in all seriousness, introspection and brutal self-honesty is why most seek escapism. Accountability and responsibility is the result of a person with real love for others, and themselves. Toxic knows no gender, and exiting stage left is self-care!✌🏼💊]
Simone was passing a kidney stone while she was competing in World competition. People have been making child abuse jokes at her expense. All they care about is her being a source of entertainment that they can profit from.
@@anthonyfletcher8053 the word you are looking for is there; and yes there is always a better option, but I have to ask you wtf are you even getting at???
@@Tjm416 ah yes! Thank you for the correction. People wouldn’t have understood my question otherwise 😁 My point is people, as of recently, have been unwarrantedly bashing capitalism like crazy but offer no solutions. My question is literal.. is their... sorry there a better option..?
I had a teacher who told me when her brother came back from Vietnam. Whenever he enters a room and hear typewriters clicking. It reminded him of machine gun fire. He will proceed to jump behind a couch and ask everyone in the room to get cover. The same when on bin day when he heard metal bins clang . It will remind him of artillery setting off. Poor soul . War changes people immensely. Soldiers are humans. This was in Australia
My friend's father can't listen to trucks because it reminds of him instantly of humvees in Afghanistan. He just starts shaking and trying to leave immediately. He had to move out of the country to get away from it.
Sometimes when people say “we live in a sensitive society now” I do agree because a lot of people are abusing that fact. However, we are now in a better time and place in the world where many issues can be talked about now, instead of swept under the rug. Do we need a better balance ? Absolutely. Should we treat everyone as quitters or crybabies when they put themselves first ? No.
Gymnasts are out there doing crazy feats that could easily kill them if they land wrong. You have GOT to have your head in the game for that. Good on her for recognizing it.
She’s an olympian who’s has worked her whole young life and sacrificed to be an olympian. I don’t get why people think it’s healthy to work ourselves to death! Sometimes it’s time to tap out and heal.
Sometimes it’s just what you have to do to survive. Everyone doesn’t have the luxury to cry mental health. You’d better fix it before you show up to work, push through, or you can find another job that cares but probably pays less
@@Tjm416 Nobody is saying to not work hard or don't make sacrifice to survive or reach your goals. But we need to learn when to take a break to reset the pressure. You won't be able to enjoy these hard work and sacrifices if you are dead or unable to function properly. Ex: When lifting weight, we do a set, take a break then come back to it. We don't do reps until our body is injured. We listen to the signals our body send us and act accordingly. We should apply the same logic to our brain/mental health.
My mental health got so bad that I quit my job of 8 years. Best decision ever. I didn’t want to be that quitter. But I also didn’t want to suffer anymore. I took time for myself and am working on feeing better. Mental health is very important, never let anyone tell you it isn’t. Take care of yourselves ❤️
I relate to this. Ive been a ballet dancer for three years but right now I’m taking a long break because I was battling with depression and suicidal thoughts years prior. At first I didn’t want to because my parents didn’t believe that I was depressed but I got to the point where I didn’t care because I knew one day I was gonna hurt myself. If you need help you deserve to get it 😊
Quitting on things that aren't you isn't a "quitters" mentality. You "quit" on yourself for 8 years. You owe nothing to anything external of yourself. If it doesn't serve you get rid of it. Aside from obvious selective situations you should be living and building for your self.
Being a kid from an immigrant mother, some people don't understand how hard it was to try and actually open up and tell them things we were dealing with. I tried telling my mother I was dealing with depression in my 20's. She told me I was imagining it and needed God. I tried taking my life while dealing with it. I overcame it, but damn when there are people who think people dealing with mental health is fake, it triggers me.
Just wanna say, I'm a white boy & had an identical experience with my own parents, but I was still a minor. They told me how I felt wasn't true. I know mental health is talked about more in white countries, but that doesn't mean the people & culture have really moved up to match it. It's about to be 10 years since I first told them that, & I'm about to try and tell them again.
My mom's grandparents came from Germany in the 1940s when ww2 was going strong. My mom told me she often tried to talk to her mom but the German way of suck it up was embedded in her. It's good to see that your parents way of dealing with depression didn't trickle down to you.
Whenever I hear people say ignorant things like this I just know they have not been through anything messed up. The people I have met with PTSD are some of the strongest people I know because they went through some of the most messed up things I have ever heard and they are still fighting to move forward in spite of rarely getting the emotional support and a healthy environment to properly heal.
PTSD is a real thing. I'm just afraid people will use this as an excuse for many other things. If you need to take a break for a while to get your head back in the game that's fine. At least come back when you are ready.
Y'all some hypocrites, if this was a male athlete y'all would be clowning on them. If an NBA player went around acting as boastful and arrogant as she has then pulled out of the playoffs cause it was "to much pressure for their mental state" y'all would roast that fool.
My sister cofounded the Friendship force years ago with her friend. As time went on, new management came in and started bringing up new ways of completing tasks and brought electronics and computers into the mix of things. My sister was ousted by a vote of her peers and lost everything. For years, she struggled with finding something else to do with her life….it was all she knew. She would give you the shirt off her back and always had a smile. Always kept herself up and was beautiful. In 2002, she gave away all her belongings to the poor, sold her house and gave the money to charity. She went to church one last time to ask for forgiveness…..got a call one day while I was in school. She put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger. Never knew she was sad, never knew her inner struggles because she “looked” happy. Point is, you never know what struggles someone is going through on the inside because they hide it so well on the outside
I am so sorry for your loss my friend 😞 it is a horrible thing to experience. I lost my sister the same way. Except the back story is different. Losing a sibling is like losing a huge part of yourself as well. I’ll pray for you and your sister. God bless!
Oh my not the news you want too hear! Your sister started a successful foundation she did great things while she was and that needs too be acknowledged and not skipped over. If only.... Prayers too you and your family And your sister legendary accomplishments. 💜🌷🙏💎
Honestly listening to the other guys opinion on mental health issues made me cry. I felt so invalidated. A lot of us didn't know what we would experience over there. I've lost way to many of my brothers from the military to their demons because of the negative stereotype given. As infantrymen we were told to always put the mission first and that turned a lot of us into robots.( We lost 11 guys on deployment. Never forgotten and always missed) Now 10 years down the line I'm trying to tackle my own demons and it's so so hard. Thank you guys so much for standing up and shining a light on mental health.
I was in a job for 2 months, I was alienated, had multiple mental breakdowns, was verbally abused. I decided to leave, and instead of respecting my decision, I was gaslighted. Always choose yourself and your wellbeing over anything anyone says. Doesn’t make you a quitter, it makes you human.
"Her mind wasn't hurt" - That's gaslighting as well. Whoever this guy is, he's so ignorant. Watch out for people who deny your and others' experience. Just stay away from them. Also, quitting is not always a bad thing. Thanks for talking on this Aba and Preach!
How is he "gaslighting" and not just disagreeing or being wrong? This appropriation of psyche and abuse language to apply to any and all situations is pretty inappropriate IMO.
Your brain is the most important organ in the human body. It literally tells your body what to do. Simone Biles is literally using her brain to tell her body to defy gravity so many ways with technique and minute calculations. If something goes wrong it can lead to serious injuries. Shes not a quiter shes actually brilliant.
Nah, she's a quitter. She could have decided that before she got to Japan, before she was not just quitting for herself, but for her team as well. All the people she could have been inspiration for. Think the Miracle on Ice folks were in perfect mental standing that whole time? Plus, as a person who was an athlete and did and still do deal with many mental health issues, up to and including PTSD. Quitting is the absolute worst thing you could do for yourself in about 99/100 situations People do that stuff and they go into the comfortable little hole of safety. The next time the choice is there to have to try and get through something or just quit. The quitting is that much easier. Until you're not even trying anymore. Because why? Then stay there until they figure out how to find some help and pull THEMSELVES out of it. Or not. The Military PTSD example they used I think is a horrible analogy. It's not the same at all. That's talking about a person trained to be ready to kill at the drop of a hat, put in a place where they could be killed. Having to actually kill someone...that's a much different situation. And being discharged isn't quitting. I think better would be someone at work starting a project with some people, doing most of it, getting to the very end and then saying, "You know, I actually can't do this. Good luck." and bouncing
@@eldiboblo923 well u take her shoes ok go win a medal for your country then get ur self ready for the next olympics and get out there win a medal .........................................................................................................................oh wait u will never even attempt it because ur too soft and u know u will fail before you even try
When he said "her mind wasn't hurt, it's a physical sport" I thought of just this. Literally everything physical is connected to the brain and the mind.
👆👆👆👆 EXACTLY!!!!!! People act like the brain doesn’t have a significant role in the different athletic performances her body does. If the brain isn’t right you CANNOT perform.
I’m glad that I’ve found this video. I was sixteen when I left my home country by myself to come to Canada. Nothing went according to plan and I found myself alone and fighting to survive. New country, new culture, new language. Working full time, going to school full time. No friends and away from all my family. After i got through high school and was mid Cégep, I was waiting for the metro at Montmorency station when I found myself calculating where I should place myself to guarantee an instant death if I decided to jump in front the metro car. I got so frightened that I went back to the Cégep and asked to see a psychologist as soon as possible. I’m glad to this day that I didn’t shy away from asking for help.
congrats on having a "happy life" my buddy from the Corps put a shotgun in his mouth and I never knew he was going through anything. He was physically tougher than I. I cried while meeting his family after his death and we both never figured out how he got to that point. We aren't all built the same. Things we come across in life, effect us differently. I think about taking my life and realize it takes more balls to do so. Selfish or not, that kind of pain must be unbearable.
@@phoenixjones7191hardest part is wondering why I am not as far gone, going through the same things. am I the fucked up one or has it not hit me yet. Suicide makes you wonder. Am I stronger or weaker. Or less Empathetic. All I know is that in the last few years we have lost more to suicide that have served than in combat.
@@claytonkeever2992 it’s non of the above my guy. It’s compound and complex. Stay up and take care of yourself and those you hold dear. Bring an umbrella but don’t hold it alone
@@claytonkeever2992 anytime brother. Loss hurts everyone and it’s deep. If you need to then speak to someone. If at least you have my random ass we can pm but I’m tired of seeing it too and civvies will never understand the kind of rates you’re actually talking about..
Same with concussions in sports. I’ve had 4 diagnosed concussions but probably 6-7 in total from playing women’s soccer. You can’t see the concussion so people think you’re fine when you’re mentally foggy, hyper-emotional, nauseous, sometimes you develop depression. I had a really bad experience with my college assistant coach because of this. It’s a real problem and when people deny your reality it can make you feel even worse.
“When people deny your reality, it can make you feel worse.” That shit hit different. It resonated with me, for real. 💯 When you’re really goin through shit that people don’t understand & they tell you to just “get over it.”? Shit would piss me off, cause it’s like they tryna downplay your mental health. I hope you’re healing from it. Concussions are serious.
@@JohnGalt916 stop being a pussy and man the fuck up. ya wanted equality right? wellwhen this happens to a man what do people say: man the fuck up. so equality = man the fuck up stop being a pussy. cant handle the heat? get the fuck outta the kitchen.
If you’re a gymnast and you are suffering from mental health issues, you have no business competing , not because it hurts the team but because you don’t want to end up with a broken neck and live the rest of your life in a chair or worse. She did the right thing. Kudos to her.
For sure! There's enough physical evidence out there to suggest prolonged traumatic states DO cause degradation in the brain. It's observable in brain scans. I don't understand how people can continue to pretend it doesn't exist (I mean, I CAN understand how, but it's annoying).
This man really triggers me, BRUH!!, as a British Soldier myself this is a serious topic, 1 year ago we had a Soldier shoot himself after finishing his guard duty, went straight in to the shower room and took himself out. We don't know why he chose to do that, sad.
Do you find that the gallows humour that soldiers have can mask a lot of these issues? Like “if I get one more of these duties I’m gonna off myself” or “if I have one more squaddie get shit I might as well do myself” So because people say this it’s never taken seriously because it’s equivalent to “if you serve me one more warm beer I’m killing everyone” but if you were an accountant with firearms licences and said that people would intervene?
One of the most common causes of death for men in this country is suicide and its def a lot higher for those in service, you go through so much like :/
Simone doesn't owe anything to anyone. She's proven she's the best and backing out doesn't make her any less of a champion. Gymnastics is easily one of the most dangerous sports out there. You're flying through the air upside down and one mis step you could easily snap your neck and end your life. I don't blame her at all for not participating. She's earned her gold. It pisses me off when people who've never played a sport let alone gymnastics or have gone through the same amount of pressure someone like Simone has gone through say she's a quitter.
I love you guys. Y'all really put people back in place. "Focus on what is said." People love to reach for something else to confuse the conversation. Y'all are amazing, love the work.
I have a older friend who was in military. He's been out for two decades and still HAS shell-shock. During 4th of July celebrations he takes a few days off from work, because loud explosions would trigger him? He still hasn't gotten over being shot at or having bombs blow off by his head. He has a greater problems with loud noises to this day.
There's a vet who lives across the street from me... we've both talked about our PTSD, I never served, but I still have mine from growing up and dealing with things in my past... Idk how many times I've been talking to him out on the lawn and a truck passing on the highway backfires or a firework goes off and he does a front tumble straight into his hedges... I know he's going through shit, but after we always get a good laugh out of it lmao
This upset me so much. I have an incredibly close friend who's been dispatched overseas in the military, and she's struggling with the mental after all this time. I told her to get discharged but she didn't like the idea of being discharged over mental health. She won't put her health and wellbeing first and the exact reason is because of people like this and it enrages me because she's so important to me but I'm powerless to do anything.
As an athlete myself, the most important injury to me is any mental injury. If you're having mental issues but you force yourself to go on, not only can you injure yourself, you injure your teammates and become a liability. Mental fortitude is the most important thing to have in general. If you're being called a quitter because of your mental issues, then the people saying you're a quitter don't matter. At the end of the day, maintaining your mental health is key.
I literally know a dude who went to a psych ward for telling somebody he tried to kill himself. A single fucking week later he shot himself on gun watch because nobody believed him.
Thank you for your service man! We glorify war too much these days but no one should have to go through that. The sacrifices that alot of people made should be the reason why.
Until someone has been behind that line brotha in the red zone they won’t understand it. The military is a factory. They don’t give a damn about the soldiers, just some ibuprofen 800 and they send you back out there. Now I can say this shorty should have said before even stepping out there that I’m not G2G coach. Don’t put me in the game. I can’t go into the RZ in the middle of theater and say nah I’m good. At that point your SL might call you a traitor. Mental health is real, so gotta get the help before it’s too late
Thinking like this drives me up a wall. This thinking is common in the Caribbean as well. The Simone situation she isn't a quitter but she isn't necessarily a hero. She is honourable, humble and has a sense of accountability. Black people, Caribbean people and everyone with this kind of thinking. If you cannot help yourself, you cannot help others. You can ruin the lives of others around if you don't get yourself in check. I am not saying be selfish but tap out when needed.
@@Oll_704 m8 when ask if knew anyone out there that was capable of beating her dhe said "I don't know if I can be beaten". Y'all some hypocrites, if this was a male athlete y'all would be clowning on them. If an NBA player went around acting as boastful and arrogant as she has then pulled out of the playoffs cause it was "to much pressure for their mental state" y'all would roast that fool.
I tried to self-delete this last week. I drank a lot and took 56 25mg phenobarbital pills and ended up in the hospital and in the psych ward for 3 days. Self-delete is NO JOKE. Please don't resort to it. There's always something to live for. Me, personally, I have my dogs and family. I fucked up and now I know I'm never going to try to do that to myself again. Please try to keep your mental health well.
These ppl that call ppl quitters are the same ones that are the biggest cowards with no backbone and wouldn’t last a day in that other person shoes. All that talk coming from behind the screens and the comfort from your home.
Quitters are out in training, veterans are no quitters, they finished their training, PTSD is an injury wurse then a physical one. Greeting from A Dutch veteran Sergeant of Infantry(A lucky one cus I have come back the same as I went)
Just as Some people can cope well with pressure some people can cope well with mental issues, doesn't mean everyone does. You're right in the lucky part at the same time you can't be certain it didn't affect even though your not aware of it.
Some training facilities are bullshit and take very long to get through. I didn’t quit when I was freezing my ass off at -45 carrying my machine gun. I did waiting 2 years for my main course to start only for it to be interrupted by this COVID shit.
@@ldahmy my mission was 25 yrs ago. I know I'm fine. Not everyone is that lucky though. Not even people who where right by my side. Anyhow my point was that its wurse then physical injuries. Those are easy to cure mostly. Mental issues are mostly for life
Aba, I really appreciate how you advocate for mental health. You and Preach are setting an amazing example. Thank you. Mental health is still part of our health and our mind being unstable can be worse than a physical thing making us unstable. Normalizing getting support when we need it, as well as making it affordable for people to actually get the care they need, is vital for healthier individuals, families, and communities.
Probably my favorite video from Aba and Preach as of yet. Thanks for this Aba and Preach - I felt like my feelings were validated. This means a lot for people like me who can’t help but be hard on themselves - we wish weren’t and it’s easier said than done.
I had a mental break while serving 5 years in the usaf, requested a discharge after almost putting someone's newborn child at risk after a misjudged call over their allergy test because of the stress I've tried to ignore with working. I get called a quitter and a disgrace for making the decision to not put other's lives at risk over my own inability to focus properly in the laboratory. You can say whatever you want, but rarely will someone choose to think over judging, it's the easier decision for most
Aye good on you for knowing when enough is enough. Putting others well-being ahead of what peers may think. I’m SF or “SecFo” as yall call us, and we’ve had too many members just push through and keep pushing without getting help and it leads to them taking their own lives.
As someone who is deployed currently: There are so many people - from Private to Lieutenant Colonel - who have come across our casualty board for Suicidal Ideations. & I’m only 2 months in my deployment. They don’t take mental health serious until someone either threatens to kill themselves or is OBVIOUSLY injured. Luckily, I had went through my emotions prior to deployment. Shit is real out here. (Keep in mind that I’m in one of the most stable areas for deployments, too. It’s literally a duty station for people, & there’s cases like this.)
Im assuming you are in Kuwait lol. Ive done a few tours in Iraq and multiple times to Syria during the height of the Syrian war. After it all, I was never the same. It all hit me about 1-2 months AFTER everything was over, the post deployment therapy / re-integration was life saving.
mental health of parents is sooo important. when my mom wasn’t doing well mentally (for many different reasons) she used to yell at me all the time for all sorts of reasons, even when it was nonsense. never did it to my brother. it caused a lot of resentment during those few years she did it. once she stopped our relationship flourished, but i can’t imagine how we would have been if she had continued that behavior
It’s also important to recognize “Superwoman” syndrome that Black women are pressured to keep up with from Society. You see it in medicine with practitioners not acknowledging BW’s pain and think they are exaggerating or feel less pain than anyone else. You see it in always thinking that BW can push through pain, stress etc and should because it is what is expected of a “Strong Black woman”. You can take care of everything everyone etc.
As a Black woman I hate this assumption. We cry, feel pain, and go through struggles just like anyone else. Let Black girls and women be soft and vulnerable in life, we can't be strong 24/7 otherwise we'll crumble.
@@UmightBwrong i recognize your opinion. As i stated i am not speaking on the pressures of BW AND BM. Only the women. My statement was an additional pressure BW feel from society along with our culture not emphasizing mental health issues and care, hell tbh any MEDICAL CARE because of WARRANTED MISTRUST, let alone the lack of luxury. Preach already made that point about the historical context; i am speaking on another pressure. A pressure where in historically broken homes from slavery and systemic imprisonment BW make a way out of no way, and it is celebrated/ accepted. But they are not giving time to grieve or be lax etc, because they should be able to work 3jobs and take care of 6 kids and go to school as an example. It is seen when medical professionals ignore BW pain seeing it as exaggeration, and historically in how BW were experimented on without anesthesia because they were “stronger” and felt less. It is real. It is from “SOCIETY”/our culture (by definition society means any ordered community)as well. In fact a lot of mental health issues are derived from people trying to withstand the pressure of society and keep up with the thinking of the masses or becoming a victim for following suit. So let’s not foolishly disregard that. BW and BM have different struggles although from the same root. For Simone as a BW, my experience as a BW and I’m sure she has felt the same “Superwoman” Pressure from others and herself at times. And it shouldn’t be ignored because of more accepted answer of BPpl just don’t do mental health because of the past. There are many folds and aspects to this issue.
@@terrim.9002 "historically broken homes from slavery and systematic imprisonment" How do black homes fall apart precipitously only from the 1960s onwards, alongside (but in greater measures than) every other demographic?
@seg162 crack was being pushed into black neighborhoods. Interesting when you look into what groups were working with the cartel and profiting off the drug trade.
I think he was confused on the difference between quitting and a quitter, I feel calling someone a quitter is a characteristic trait that carries on about a person. It’s obvious if you leave something you “quit” because by definition that means “to leave” but to assassinate someone’s whole character over a singular event is unfair, if Simone was a “quitter” she would’ve never made it this far If a soldier was a “quitter” he wouldn’t make it past basic training but hey these just my initial thoughts let’s tune into this great content📈🔥
When the mind isn't functioning properly the body doesn't function properly. Simone Biles literally had an episode midair. If she were a lesser athlete she would've probably ended up landing incorrectly and been taken out on a stretcher. If a soldier has mental issues that soldier will be a liability to themself and their fellow soldiers. You can't discount someone's health because something isn't apparent.
I feel like since people always label her as the “perfect gymnast” she can’t ever mess up, which is not true. She’s still human, she will make mistakes like the rest of us. I just think people tend to forget that since we put her on top of this pedestal (I’m not saying she doesn’t deserve that title)
Not just vets man, some of us came from neighborhoods in the 80s and 90s that were war zones, and learned quickly that bark and bite are two totally different things.
"If you're compromised, you're a liability." This is precisely why Simone should have left the event and came home. With that, I am happy for her. She was able to overcome and medal.
@Leptune Cannet It means that if you are distracted by some physical, mental, or emotional issue, you will not be able to focus on the task in front of you and can hurt yourself or others.
Aba’s conversation with this guy is like my convo with my brother on my mental health. He’ll never understand it, he’s completely blinkered. Completely! He sees me as a coward and a quitter of life. Even though I have diagnosed schizo affective disorder and epilepsy. I have fought to still be here. And live my life! It’s hard man! Really hard.
Very true. Some people just want people with mental disorders or disabilities to constantly look "disabled" and if you don't, you're fine. I had to leave a job years ago due to a PTSD relapse and it was really hard to come to that decision, but I was getting memory lapses and I knew I could slip up and someone could get hurt due to my lapses. I wouldn't call myself or anyone in a position like that "a quitter". I never heard about mental illness being ignored or hidden in black American communities (I'm a white Aussie), but that's terrible. I hope people talk about it more and things get better. That feeling of shame when you try to hide this stuff but people start to notice something is "off" about you is terrible.
I commend you Aba on continuing the discussion with that guy. I would've ended it. "Simone let down her country." Yo... I'm good, Simone aint hurt me by deciding take that much needed break with the Olympics. Ppl need to respect other ppls decisions and focus on themselves. That beehive mentality is real 🙄. There's bigger things to worry about.
Exactly! We don't get anything from her being in the Olympics so we aren't hurting when she decides to take a break! Most people only remember her during Olympic season anyway so they need to stop acting butthurt.
@@Inspirayetion True, it's amazing how they responded to her taking that moment to herself. She has serious things going on with her from the abuse to her brother charges. Who knows what else she's dealing with. Most ppl need a tall glass of stfu.
Not to mention she was being sexually assaulted by a former coach and was not protected by the gymnastics community or the public. She owes the country nothing. And as far as I'm concerned any support that black people show this country should be out of personal choice not obligation.
The number of people who don't understand that invisible injuries can carry the same severity as visible ones frustrates me. Be excellent to each other, you never know what they're going through.
These people say “but they still came back”. That right there is the problem. They’re viewing ‘coming back’ as a default positive. As Aba said - yeah, Durant came back… and blew out his Achilles! *HE SHOULDN’T HAVE COME BACK! THAT WAS THE WRONG DECISION.*
It's true, everyone's your best friend until you stop benefiting them. Be aware of who's opinions you actually care about because it's rare and something to be treasured
But what's so fucked up is that those who take advantage of you are rewarded and have so much influence, while the ones who are the real deal are treated like shit as well. Like bruh I got a few good ass friends that actually see me for me. Yet they're fucking dying!! I'm trying to help them out, and fuckers out here shrug their shoulders and tell me "good luck" smh
People who says that about someone who's in the army is just rude and disrespectful! If you've never been on the battlefield for yourselves you have no right to call war veterans quitters!
[On a smaller scale, as a kid I was often beaten by my father's belt whether unjustly or deserved is negligible. Cuz I wasn't a bad kid, not a bully, bringing home terrible report cards under eight years old is normal where my mind was at, bc play and entertainment is a kid's bread and butter at that age. On the last time I spilt tears from a whippin', it was bc the food wasn't cooked thoroughly. At 8yo was my first time considering snicide, I swallowed every last hard split pea on my plate trying to die or make him happy to just stop hitting me. When the blows weren't stopping and all I was hearing was, "I'll give you something to cry about!" Something died in me then. It was a small shift but I weathered that storm and still remember to this day the lost innocence, almost three decades later. A Shrink would easily diagnose my psychopathy on the first try bc emotions that normal people react with are abnormal to me. I literally have to fake being human. The visceral reaction one would get from seeing cute puppies or a dude getting kicked to the nuts is non-resonant to me. I can run a nail thru my palm and never acknowledge the pain as a result. Making connections and relationships is as easy as being autistic. PTSD is no joke. And while many are able to fake normal, the public should be glad that people like me only seek self-harm! Under slightly different circumstances, another would have turned serial killer or mass-mnrderer! Saying, "Man-up!" is just another brush-off! If mental healthcare were cheaper and less shameful in this country,♂️snicide would be far more reduced and♂️would feel more valued and less disposable!✌🏼💊]
Many ppl dont understand that when you break your leg it`s ok to show it. But when you are depressed you have no option but to act normal. If you act out your depression, you will lose friends,you will grow resentful toward yourself and others with everyday, you`ll end up lonely, miserable, unemployed (or in a hard life situation with little to no prospects) and most likely addicted to smth. In the moment, all you have to do with a broken leg is to wait. But with depression you HAVE to be vigilant and fight it all the time.
“I like people who weren’t captured.” It’s always someone who’s have never contributed to a field and sometimes never contributed to anything in general with something to say about those who have.
@@andrewscott8892 boy, you drank that Kool-Aid to the very last drop, didn't you? Well, there's a sucker born everyday... and I do believe that you were born yesterday! 😂
You know what's even worse, when these soldiers of the past come home exhausted and filled with mental health issues and PTSD, ignoring it (because that's what they're told to do), causing an unhealthy home and family, passing that trauma to their kids, having a generation of broken and lost kids, and the people that didn't even fight *BLAMING* *THAT* *GENERATION* *FOR* *NOT* *FIXING* *THEIR* *PROBLEMS*
In Canada, the clinics that help serving members and Veterans with psychological injuries are called OSI clinics. OSI stands for Operational Stress Injuries and they cover all psychological injuries from PTSD, Depression, Anxiety and lots of other mental health injuries. Trauma is trauma is trauma, isn't a pissed competition and someone who would diminish someone elses trauma has clearly never been in harms way. Thank you for addressing this guys, it was a tough watch, but I appreciate the way that you raised such a difficult subject.
Not sure where you're getting your information from, as though the system here isn't perfect, but every Veteran has access to free mental health resources.
As someone who ignored my mental health for years only to have a mental breakdown causing seizures and suicidal ideations, I finally got help. I was diagnosed with ptsd & bipolar 1 and am now disabled because I couldn't go on with life the way it was. You're brain is the most important organ, don't ignore it. This video is so important.
I think people forget that your mental state affects your physical state. If your mental state is unstable while you're attempting to do dangerous stuff like gymnastics you're done, that physical injury is coming. Try doing a backflip while doubting yourself before the jump
She’s the greatest of all time. She definitely could have died with her routine. I support her stepping down but it doesn’t make her the new hero. She needs help and support. That dose not make her the new hero FOR dropping out. She’s a hero because of all the things she has already done.
This video is important. I appreciate the breakdown y’all did. This was needed! As an army vet to another thank you abba. And preach you’re awesome and being just as supportive if not more. People need to know ptsd doesn’t just stop with vets, anybody can be a victim of this mindset.
Hearing Aba chew us out like that near the end made me pause and listen. This is EXACTLY what I and all of the other young (17-26) people need to hear and consider as we wade deeper into adulthood. It’s this kind of direction we need to have as we try to figure out what kind of people we will become. I’m saving this video just so I can return to the second half and relive those words
I suffered from chronic pain from spinal issues which started in my teenage years the pain never stopped it was there all day every day and it destroyed me physically, financially, socially and in the end mentally. I got depression at age 32 and I know what you say it's real and horrific I become basically a recluse till I was 40 you start avoiding people it's such a dark place. I'm 48 now and still have my moments but it's not a daily thing now.
In chess you physically move the pieces, but you still need the mental to make the right moves. In gymnastics you have to physically move yourself, but to execute those movements at that high of a level, with so many people watching and so much pressure on you from being a previous olympic medalist, you need the mental to be as sharp as a japanese knife to perform.
Not only is it a brave thing to risk others trying to ridicule you for making the right decision, it's also one of the most responsible things to do. Like Aba said sometimes you gotta step down so you don't compromise the rest of your team.
she didnt step down she cherry picked what she thought she could pull off. She came back and performed. She didnt leave. No soldier leaves the millitary because of his mental health then comes back to deploy a few days later.
So I made like a general comment on this already. I’m a veteran and like PTSD will get veterans retired. We don’t get to decide to keep going, they will remove us. Retire us.
@@krissybee2484 thanks for serving 🙏🏼 PTSD I’ve never experienced, and it’s ridiculous how civilians think it’s “easy” to solve or take a pill and it’s gone. Especially soldiers seeing life changing situations that mentally f$cks them up.
This is such an important video. Thanks for talking about this. I don't always agree with everything you guys say, but when you're spot-on, you guys are right on the money. All of his is so important and so true and needs to be said.
With the right treatment (and lots of hard work), it can be met and overcome...to an extent...but with how inaccessible mental health services are at the moment, it's impossible for so many to start down that path of healing. And the healing takes awhile. Took me 10+ years to learn to deal with my PTSD.
@@Zhello79 I get your point, but the analogy wasn’t nessacary. My aunt was deployed in Iraq & Afghanistan (she was a combat medic when she served), and she was honorably discharged because her mental health went to shit. Guess what? She was greeted with comments like, “you should’ve pushed through it”, “put your feelings aside”, etc.
Because comparing the military and Olympics is in anyway comparable. Nation vs Nation. That's where it ends. The fact is we got whiney babies today, to use these fools words (SOFT, which is okay) with enabled health problems, called a hero for it, that stem from NOTHING serious. Comparing a broken leg and literal life and death scenario where you screwing up could cost you or someone's life verse someone jumping on some monkey bars is a laughable argument. If she had a broken leg, nobody would even question this. See the keyword here is MENTAL health, not physical. Imagine comparing PTSD, with anxiety like you nailed his coffin with that. It's like comparing a tap on the ass and full penetration sexual assault. "We are talking about low IQ comments" as if this argument wasn't flawed from the start. The guy he debated wasn't good at defending his position, or at least didn't know how to word it, yet was calm and you got the emotional dog to come out of you. Comparing physical with anxiety problems is the definition of "STUPID." EDIT: This ALL got started over people calling her a hero, for essentially QUITTING. I personally don't give a shit because I'm only interested in race walking as an avid walking simulator fan. But if I had to pick a side between hero and quitter. There is way more evidence to suggest a quitter than a "hero."
@@itsyourenotyour9101 Well the main point of this was mental health *in general* needs to be taken seriously, whether on the battlefield or in the office. Also, Simone Biles - along with several other gymnasts on the Female Olympic Gymnastics team, were sexually assaulted. I'd say that is a good reason to take a break.
He'd better learn something. You don't give a mentally stressed marine a weapon and throw him in a meat grinder. PTSD patients are a grave danger to themselves and others. They can frag their commanding officers, commit suicide or commit war crimes. Not the kind of troops you want in a combat zone.
@Beefsteak Pete so you're gonna forget all the medals she won? Or are you saying that she doesn't actually have mental health issues? Or are you saying that she should've just ignored her issues?
As my dad is a Desert Storm Veteran , I find it very triggering to hear him say people with trauma (mostly mentally) are cowards for giving up. My father was very strong and was in the army for 25 years and now thankfully he's getting help. People like this are very ignorant and forget mental problems are a very real thing. It's not a little thing people choose to do to gain sympathy especially considering certain circumstances. edit: my dad is 100% mentally disabled due to his PTSD and takes alot of meds to cope with his issues. it doesnt make him weak for getting help. it's more honorable of a soldier to leave the military due to their trauma and deeper issues than to risk others' lives and theirs.
This was literally me at Marine OCS last year. Disqualifying injury ruined my chances of coming back even, and the fucking comments I received from old friends and some I was in OCS with…
Oh dude that shit is night and day in the service. It's kinda awful how quickly people you've bled with will turn on ya out of insecurity because you had the fuckin' stones take a needed break or have to replan your life and that reminded them how fragile their career actually is. Good commrades are discouraged now it feels. that's one of the reasons i refused to re-up. Waaaaaay to many actual blue falcon fuckos get a slap on the wrist but standing up for subordinates got you demoted >:(
@@chelseae.6779 Yeah, a "brotherhood" until you step out of line and don't "man up" for the collective. This isn't just in the military either, You'd be surprised how many negative things people have to say about you as soon as you stop and take a step back to think about whats best for you.
I did two deployments to Iraq as an Army combat medic. I'm rated 80% due to PTSD and back problems. If you can't do your job due to your mental health, you shouldn't be down range. Period.
I think that after he realized that he lost the argument, he simply took the defensive and stayed in attack mode. He simply will not admit to being wrong.
If I'm in a war zone with the military, I don't want the guy who is meant to have my back to have mental health issues. Best thing he can do is remove himself. He can still hold his head up.
“We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won’t. And we’re slowly learning that fact. And we’re very, very pissed off.” ― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club
As someone who suffers from bipolar depression I seem like the happiest person ever on the surface. Thank you so much for everything you've said in this video, it really means a lot.
My mom is that kind of Christian who believes that God and the power of prayer will fix everything, yet she does very little to nothing herself to fix a situation. Now as an almost 30 year old man I realize that a lot of my anger comes from her and that mentality.
12:47 agreed. One time i injured my knee while riding my bike home from work. the next day it was swollen and hard to stand on, so i went to the walk in clinic to have it looked at. I had a shift that day, so I messaged my manager to let him know i got injured. After seeing the doctor I informed my manager that the doctor said i need to stay off it for a couple of days. but since it was a saturday which is a busy day at the workplace, my manager tried to get me to come in anyway and work at the front instead of the warehouse. when i told him i cant he said i dont have to climb ladders... everyone you have to live with your body for your entire life and you only get one, so take good care of it. Know your limits and don't let anyone push you beyond it.
I was working as a lifeguard, broke 3 vertebrae and they told me I still had to come in...to LIFEGUARD...guarding children's lives... Oh but they said I could sit down while doing it..
She never quit her whole life... now she's backing out at the top of her game, with nothing left to prove, and losers get to call her a quitter? People are finished. It's over. A new world's coming. Hope I make the cut but if I don't, at least this one's over.
Umm she got bronze fam. She proved shes lost her edge lol. If her mental health was that big of a problem, she shouldnt have gone to the literal biggest competition in the world where she would be representing the country ffs.
@@zachrohler1047 Lol what? She still got a bronze medal on her worst day, meaning she STILL beat out the best of the best from multiple other countries, and was the ONLY American to place in beams. That is one more medal that the USA wouldn't have without her. You make no sense.
You will find two people in this world. People who accomplish nothing that criticize others that have reached heights they will never ever reach, and you have people who have walked the path (maybe not as successful but walked the life), and will give support and a nod of respect to a person because they understood they gave it their all. Some people live in a fantasy world where people should give up their lives to succeed and actually believe they would survive that standard they are putting on others.
Being a parent of a child in a wheelchair.. I’ve noticed visible disabilities are so much easier for people to understand then invisible disabilities..& to be honest invisible disabilities are much harder to navigate
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If a surgeon is having a mental breakdown right before surgery, I would hope that surgeon would skip that operation and have another surgeon step in. I don’t want someone who isn’t completely there to operate on a person. It’s as simple as that.
This!!!!
There’s always that one short bus special with WiFi that will say that the surgeon should dig deeper and suck it up.
@@T.Harry79 Exactly they have no understanding the difference between "quitting" and "Substition"
This is a great analogy
Great analogy. The same people who would say that someone with mental issues should just dig deep to complete their task would not like a Surgeon that's having a mental breakdown working on them. A lot of people don't understand something until it affects them.
Man when Aba said how many people have died from a broken leg vs how many people have died from mental health, it hit home. I appreciate sensible people like Aba and Preach
Exactly, I have depression amd I've had a broken leg. My leg's healed but I still look forward to the day I move on....
Mental health is extremely important. You can't be your best version of yourself if your mental isn't right.
nice one, this will be the new norm, most people I adore and admire have been going through alot but they stay strong and I am very happy about that, they've me to push on even in my weak times.
How many people can perform with a broken leg and how many people can perform through mental health issues
@@Tjm416 wouldn't that be subjective to the person and event?
“You will always be criticised by people who’re doing less than you.”
Fking tell me about it.
So true!!!!!
Or you get criticized for quitting and when the media gives you praise for quitting you accept it. You could just be a loser with justified criticism
Lmaoo all these people complaining, almost all conservatives, are so untalented it's actually comical!
@@mr.freezypk9954 Define loser
14:29 "Don't sacrifice for people that will replace you within a week"
I think more people need to hear this..
💯💯💯💜💜💜🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
I've lived by this for 20 years. I learned it the hard way
Don't worry. They are hearing it. It's getting to be a pretty big topic on UA-cam right now, and it's to the point where big names, CEOS, and shit are responding with their own videos to try and convince people that they are important, irreplaceable, and other lies to keep you working in toxic environments.
How do we figure out who those selfish people are?
As an Afghan Vet, there are many different reasons people can get PTSD. An Engineer in the bombsquad may need to go defuse an IED (fuck that noise) after watching his best mate get blown to pieces days before. Then has nightmares every night for the rest of his life. I dont imagine most western civilians to understand but when you talk shit about PTSD it shows that you probably dont understand how life can be very hard. Especially for Afghan civilians that go through it everyday. Peace A&P.
Yeah that's real PTSD, not gymnastics 😳 the fact that ABA compares a girl with ADHD with PTSD shows me Aba is the idiot
@@lovinmclovin5290 as if getting sexually assaulted is not horrifying enough 😏
@@lovinmclovin5290 you’re a goof cuz he wasn’t comparing the two, he was using it as an example of how mental health could be even more dangerous when not taken seriously especially if you’re job requires you to put your life on the line along with others
The fact that 'triggered' has been co-opted by a bunch of unemployable professional victims who cry if the wind blows due east has made this problem 1000X worse.
I have PTSD, but not from being in the military. However, I've been through some pretty traumatic stuff. I've been diagnosed with it by professionals . It's not fun having this and it's shitty when people don't understand.
In the case of the black community, it's not even just always feeling the need to be strong. It's being indoctrinated into certain beliefs such as, "black people don't go to therapy, they go to church." I remember spouting that nonsense in my teenage years...that's beyond damaging. I have no problem with religion, and I believe in God but sometimes religion mixed with untreated mental issues can do more harm than good.
If you’re hearing voices you’re schizophrenic
If you label that voice god, you’re a prophet
It’s not surprising the church or other organised religions can mask a lot of this stuff
@@marlonthomas8042 actually alot of the time it's not actual voices, rather signs or signals often seen by those that want to see and or "hear" it. It's an extremely dangerous mentality and doctrine to act as if those that claim they feel or see or hear what they are technically forcing a feeling they're pushing so hard to feel as if they are crazy. It doesn't necessarily make them crazy for believing what they believe in, especially when majority of people use that as an escape. Just as people imagine they're on vacation "feeling" what they're thinking of like the sun, or the beach, people feel their own happiness and or escapes.
IMO, church CAN help ppl, BUT mental health is important. Don't you think God made man see how these ppl are suffering and provided ppl who can help them? I like to believe God provides a way for us to better ourselves and to care for others. If Jonas Salk had not been born would we have the polio vaccine? Sorry, I have a strange way of thinking.
This is not just a “black community” thing. To suggest that only black ppl have a lack of empathy and understanding when it comes to mental health, is absolutely ignorant. There were plenty of white ppl who dismissed Simone Biles. Stop spreading these stereotypes that are based on anecdotal experiences.
@@NoMetsNoNetsNoJets She didn’t say it was just a black community thing my guy.🤦🏾”In the case of the black community” is what she said. It’s a difference.
I just got a 6 figure job a month ago and I immediately told my husband, who's been miserable at his job for months, that he can quit now. I've seen what this job is doing to my husband's mental health, and therefore to our family and this is NOT what I want for him, for us. I commend him, he's been patient, a great professional, he's held it together for so long. But enough is enough, I'll always have his back. I told him to go the next day and quit on the spot.
High 5 frfr
When I get older I want a supportive relationship like yours. Hope everything is well for both
Hope he and your family is doing a little better today!
You a real one fr ❤️
I wish you all the best.
Semi personal story.
While I was in the military, a drinking buddy of mine was regaling us with his not so glorious stories of his 5 deployments. He had medals for each one. Then we got our deployment orders. He begged the NCO to put him on "rear D" (for non military types, that is rear defense where the person would stay back at base and not be taken to the combat areas). The NCO refused stating his expertise in the combat situation. He stated his mental health was too poor to go again. A couple days later, that same NCO told him that the first Sargeant denied the his request saying, "if he stayed behind he would be a 'quiter'". He stabbed his NCO with a combat knife.
The guy and the NCO had drinks the night before our orders came in. They were close and he was willing to sacrifice his military career, his friendship with this guy, and his freedom all to not go. His mental health was really Shakey and noone would listen. the NCO was treated and recovered, and he was court martialed but he got off of the charges because the (still injured) NCO he stabbed was a character witness for him. He did get discharged based on mental stability but he couldn't function in society. He took his own life 2 years after discharge.
I have seen mental health being taken for granted in many circumstances, but it hurts me to think of him still to this day even though that was in 2005.
This story must be seen by more people.
Thank you for sharing this story. Thank you.
Damn
I am a retired Corpsman(8404) 21 years I saw the same kind of things, this is par for the course in the Military. It's not that they don't care ( they don't) but we are just tools products to use and if we break so be it. I can go over to NHSD across the street to the park and find some of my old shipmates mentally, physically and almost always emotionally broken. The military definitely takes mental health for granted they rather kick you out that treat it, sometimes for obvious reason and sometimes for not so obvious reasons.
Damn
This video isn't solely about PTSD & Soldiers. This is about our "GRIND THROUGH IT" attitude surrounding mental health issues in general. People are quick to label those alive today with depression or other issues as soft or quitters or cowards looking for a way out. Keep in mind that these kinds of phrases used to be used on veterans all the time.
Depression... Self Deletion, Mental issues. They were always around, we just never talked about it and now that folks are people are just like "WHOA... WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM.. ALL THESE PEOPLE. THEY MUST BE FAKING". Yeah folks are faking it soo hard, thats why self deletions are reaching record highs. Just because you cant see it, doesnt mean they arent suffering from it. Im not asking you to believe it, you dont have to believe in something oyu dont see. BUT WHY ACTIVELY SHAME OR DISBELIEVE SOMETHING YOU HAVE NO INFORMATION ON.
You could be injured and folks may not be able to see it including doctors, that doesnt lessen your physical hurt. You wouldnt want folks labeling you for pain that they cant see and this happens all the time. Lets be mindful that this is their body, their mind and if they say they are suffering only they really know so lets not make their situation potentially worse with callous words.
The same people calling soldiers with PTSD "quitters" are probably the first to claim all mass shooters have a mental illness. Just saying.
That guy is a ignorant fool. You can't comprehend what he doesn't know, so he justifies it with his ignorance and lack of critical thinking or knowledge. Only, when he experience it then he would understand!
You know what I’m very happy and grateful that I read this at the start, it helps put you in a different mind set and allows you to broaden YOUR knowledge. Imma Read the comment From Aba and Preach at the start know instead of the beginning.
The entire thing was because she was being praised as a hero for it instead of the people who kept going the spotlight was on her instead of the people competing is that fair? She was being called a hero no she is not it was disappointing she backed out but she is NOT a f ing hero all these people coming up with excuses for her saying stuff she never said originally which did NOT help its warranted criticism ps I was a paramedic for a few years I've seen some bad ish i worked through my problems through the proper channels I know not everyone is the same but elevating these types of people is wrong
I just want to say thank you for using your platform to speak on this issue. No matter the viewpoint on it, it just needs to be discussed openly. If we keep normalizing the conversation, us veterans and others suffering from PTSD can get the help they truly need and DESERVE. Just...thank you. Won't even entertain the gentleman stating they're "quitters." I want to focus on the fact that you guys have used a very large platform with tons of diverse viewers to shed light on a very serious subject.
Irony: He started showing clear signs of stress near the end and then he left the call. By his own standards he's a quitter.
Wow. He coulda said no. He coulda not taken the call. But yea what a quitter
LOL 😆 thought I was only one who noticed that.
😂
yup his leg wasnt broken
and it didn't take a lot for him to quit either.
I've seen "quitter" used to manipulate people into staying in abusive relationships.
Sometimes the hardest thing to do is quit and walk away. That takes courage.
And the right thing to do is to set boundaries and sometimes that means saying no, quitting and walking away.
100% agree with you.
Exactly 💯
[I've heard it joked that AA is for quitters!
But in all seriousness, introspection and brutal self-honesty is why most seek escapism. Accountability and responsibility is the result of a person with real love for others, and themselves. Toxic knows no gender, and exiting stage left is self-care!✌🏼💊]
100% agree
True sometimes.
Simone was passing a kidney stone while she was competing in World competition. People have been making child abuse jokes at her expense. All they care about is her being a source of entertainment that they can profit from.
Welcome to a capitalism based world.
Greed ruins this planet, they didn’t get any F’s what she was going through.
@@Tjm416 is their a better option?
@@anthonyfletcher8053 the word you are looking for is there; and yes there is always a better option, but I have to ask you wtf are you even getting at???
@@Tjm416 ah yes! Thank you for the correction. People wouldn’t have understood my question otherwise 😁
My point is people, as of recently, have been unwarrantedly bashing capitalism like crazy but offer no solutions.
My question is literal.. is their... sorry there a better option..?
I had a teacher who told me when her brother came back from Vietnam. Whenever he enters a room and hear typewriters clicking. It reminded him of machine gun fire. He will proceed to jump behind a couch and ask everyone in the room to get cover. The same when on bin day when he heard metal bins clang . It will remind him of artillery setting off. Poor soul . War changes people immensely. Soldiers are humans. This was in Australia
My friend's father can't listen to trucks because it reminds of him instantly of humvees in Afghanistan. He just starts shaking and trying to leave immediately. He had to move out of the country to get away from it.
@@phoenixjones7191 I'm sorry to hear. Veterans all deserve a special place in heaven for all the trauma and shit they've been through
Aussies took on very dangerous missions in Vietnam. I feel that Australian troops have not been credited for their fight in Vietnam.
@@shootingbricks8554 Do the Anzacs often get credited for any of their efforts?
I didn't know Australians were involved in Vietnam. I'm an American so I always think it was pretty much us that did the major stuff.
Sometimes when people say “we live in a sensitive society now” I do agree because a lot of people are abusing that fact. However, we are now in a better time and place in the world where many issues can be talked about now, instead of swept under the rug. Do we need a better balance ? Absolutely. Should we treat everyone as quitters or crybabies when they put themselves first ? No.
Amen!
Facts
Say sum’n Chel!!!
Better time and place yet cops are still being bullies killing innocent ppl while bootlickers think nothing of it.
These people are cowards, if the world collapses and education and economic systems fail it's back to the stone age
As a Marine Corps vet with PTSD I’m really glad there are people like you two gentlemen speaking about these very real disabilities.
I can tell the guy in the video don’t meet and converse with people on the daily
Gymnasts are out there doing crazy feats that could easily kill them if they land wrong. You have GOT to have your head in the game for that. Good on her for recognizing it.
She’s an olympian who’s has worked her whole young life and sacrificed to be an olympian. I don’t get why people think it’s healthy to work ourselves to death! Sometimes it’s time to tap out and heal.
Sometimes it’s just what you have to do to survive. Everyone doesn’t have the luxury to cry mental health. You’d better fix it before you show up to work, push through, or you can find another job that cares but probably pays less
@@Tjm416 Nobody is saying to not work hard or don't make sacrifice to survive or reach your goals. But we need to learn when to take a break to reset the pressure. You won't be able to enjoy these hard work and sacrifices if you are dead or unable to function properly. Ex: When lifting weight, we do a set, take a break then come back to it. We don't do reps until our body is injured. We listen to the signals our body send us and act accordingly. We should apply the same logic to our brain/mental health.
@@doris2079 yes and it is solely your responsibility to handle your problems and assess your situations before throwing yourself into something
@@Tjm416 Still sounds like your projecting.
@@Tjm416 Exactly, thats literally what everyone is fucking saying. If you aren't mentally fit, you can't ignore it, you must find a way to fix it.
My mental health got so bad that I quit my job of 8 years. Best decision ever. I didn’t want to be that quitter. But I also didn’t want to suffer anymore. I took time for myself and am working on feeing better. Mental health is very important, never let anyone tell you it isn’t. Take care of yourselves ❤️
Proud of you stranger ❤
Better to quit a job than quit life
Good job my friend!!
I relate to this. Ive been a ballet dancer for three years but right now I’m taking a long break because I was battling with depression and suicidal thoughts years prior. At first I didn’t want to because my parents didn’t believe that I was depressed but I got to the point where I didn’t care because I knew one day I was gonna hurt myself. If you need help you deserve to get it 😊
Quitting on things that aren't you isn't a "quitters" mentality. You "quit" on yourself for 8 years. You owe nothing to anything external of yourself. If it doesn't serve you get rid of it. Aside from obvious selective situations you should be living and building for your self.
He fails to understand that mental health is just as important as physical health… sad times
If anything, it's more important
He's ignorant
Being a kid from an immigrant mother, some people don't understand how hard it was to try and actually open up and tell them things we were dealing with. I tried telling my mother I was dealing with depression in my 20's. She told me I was imagining it and needed God. I tried taking my life while dealing with it. I overcame it, but damn when there are people who think people dealing with mental health is fake, it triggers me.
Just wanna say, I'm a white boy & had an identical experience with my own parents, but I was still a minor. They told me how I felt wasn't true. I know mental health is talked about more in white countries, but that doesn't mean the people & culture have really moved up to match it. It's about to be 10 years since I first told them that, & I'm about to try and tell them again.
@B well I hope you get someone to listen to you. If not, there are resources and people who will listen. Sending positive thoughts ✨️
My mom's grandparents came from Germany in the 1940s when ww2 was going strong. My mom told me she often tried to talk to her mom but the German way of suck it up was embedded in her.
It's good to see that your parents way of dealing with depression didn't trickle down to you.
Praying for both of you. There's always a better day... don't let anyone take that from you..
Whenever I hear people say ignorant things like this I just know they have not been through anything messed up. The people I have met with PTSD are some of the strongest people I know because they went through some of the most messed up things I have ever heard and they are still fighting to move forward in spite of rarely getting the emotional support and a healthy environment to properly heal.
Most underrated comment on this thread.... ❤️
PTSD is a real thing. I'm just afraid people will use this as an excuse for many other things. If you need to take a break for a while to get your head back in the game that's fine. At least come back when you are ready.
Realist shit has been spoken
Thank you entirely... 💜💜💜
Y'all some hypocrites, if this was a male athlete y'all would be clowning on them. If an NBA player went around acting as boastful and arrogant as she has then pulled out of the playoffs cause it was "to much pressure for their mental state" y'all would roast that fool.
The brain is the most important organ in our bodies. Therefore, PTSD is far more of an injury than ANYTHING else 💯
Minus massive internal bleeding etc.
Type of shit that keep or mind spirit and emotions crippled
@@scottedwards1209 Massive Internal Bledding of the Brain is worse than any other organ
@@SWRDFSH3850 that's not ptsd though...
@@scottedwards1209 the body in many cases is easier to fix than the mind
My sister cofounded the Friendship force years ago with her friend. As time went on, new management came in and started bringing up new ways of completing tasks and brought electronics and computers into the mix of things. My sister was ousted by a vote of her peers and lost everything. For years, she struggled with finding something else to do with her life….it was all she knew. She would give you the shirt off her back and always had a smile. Always kept herself up and was beautiful. In 2002, she gave away all her belongings to the poor, sold her house and gave the money to charity. She went to church one last time to ask for forgiveness…..got a call one day while I was in school. She put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger. Never knew she was sad, never knew her inner struggles because she “looked” happy. Point is, you never know what struggles someone is going through on the inside because they hide it so well on the outside
I am so sorry for your loss my friend 😞 it is a horrible thing to experience. I lost my sister the same way. Except the back story is different. Losing a sibling is like losing a huge part of yourself as well. I’ll pray for you and your sister. God bless!
My condolences to you sir. It was hard to read this, so I can only imagine what you and your family went through.
Oh my not the news you want too hear! Your sister started a successful foundation she did great things while she was and that needs too be acknowledged and not skipped over. If only....
Prayers too you and your family
And your sister legendary accomplishments. 💜🌷🙏💎
If I may ask did anyone in the family start another foundation.
I am sorry for your loss.
Honestly listening to the other guys opinion on mental health issues made me cry. I felt so invalidated. A lot of us didn't know what we would experience over there. I've lost way to many of my brothers from the military to their demons because of the negative stereotype given. As infantrymen we were told to always put the mission first and that turned a lot of us into robots.( We lost 11 guys on deployment. Never forgotten and always missed) Now 10 years down the line I'm trying to tackle my own demons and it's so so hard. Thank you guys so much for standing up and shining a light on mental health.
I was in a job for 2 months, I was alienated, had multiple mental breakdowns, was verbally abused. I decided to leave, and instead of respecting my decision, I was gaslighted. Always choose yourself and your wellbeing over anything anyone says. Doesn’t make you a quitter, it makes you human.
Had a similar experience and I coping on recovery
"Her mind wasn't hurt" - That's gaslighting as well. Whoever this guy is, he's so ignorant. Watch out for people who deny your and others' experience. Just stay away from them. Also, quitting is not always a bad thing. Thanks for talking on this Aba and Preach!
i think he himself is a 'quitter' in his terms. He is just unexperienced and insecure.
How is he "gaslighting" and not just disagreeing or being wrong? This appropriation of psyche and abuse language to apply to any and all situations is pretty inappropriate IMO.
Thats not really gaslighting
@@absolutebackfire191 Refer to my response to o o
@@jazminebianca437 i dont see any
Your brain is the most important organ in the human body. It literally tells your body what to do. Simone Biles is literally using her brain to tell her body to defy gravity so many ways with technique and minute calculations. If something goes wrong it can lead to serious injuries. Shes not a quiter shes actually brilliant.
Nah, she's a quitter.
She could have decided that before she got to Japan, before she was not just quitting for herself, but for her team as well.
All the people she could have been inspiration for.
Think the Miracle on Ice folks were in perfect mental standing that whole time?
Plus, as a person who was an athlete and did and still do deal with many mental health issues, up to and including PTSD.
Quitting is the absolute worst thing you could do for yourself in about 99/100 situations
People do that stuff and they go into the comfortable little hole of safety. The next time the choice is there to have to try and get through something or just quit. The quitting is that much easier. Until you're not even trying anymore. Because why?
Then stay there until they figure out how to find some help and pull THEMSELVES out of it.
Or not.
The Military PTSD example they used I think is a horrible analogy. It's not the same at all.
That's talking about a person trained to be ready to kill at the drop of a hat, put in a place where they could be killed. Having to actually kill someone...that's a much different situation.
And being discharged isn't quitting.
I think better would be someone at work starting a project with some people, doing most of it, getting to the very end and then saying, "You know, I actually can't do this. Good luck." and bouncing
@@eldiboblo923 well u take her shoes ok go win a medal for your country then get ur self ready for the next olympics and get out there win a medal .........................................................................................................................oh wait u will never even attempt it because ur too soft and u know u will fail before you even try
When he said "her mind wasn't hurt, it's a physical sport" I thought of just this. Literally everything physical is connected to the brain and the mind.
Agreed
👆👆👆👆 EXACTLY!!!!!!
People act like the brain doesn’t have a significant role in the different athletic performances her body does. If the brain isn’t right you CANNOT perform.
I’m glad that I’ve found this video. I was sixteen when I left my home country by myself to come to Canada. Nothing went according to plan and I found myself alone and fighting to survive. New country, new culture, new language. Working full time, going to school full time. No friends and away from all my family. After i got through high school and was mid Cégep, I was waiting for the metro at Montmorency station when I found myself calculating where I should place myself to guarantee an instant death if I decided to jump in front the metro car. I got so frightened that I went back to the Cégep and asked to see a psychologist as soon as possible. I’m glad to this day that I didn’t shy away from asking for help.
Talking about the Olympics, it is sad that this man cares more about the "country's image" than the individual athletes that represent the country.
And at the end of the day, the country doesnt care
@@Mosaic-xerox At all! Not for the little ppl and not for the ppl that literally serve. Smh.
The athletes know what they agree to do. They are there to represent the absolute best a country has to offer- not for themselves.
And vice versa
@@Jack_Arbor why dont you become one and show us how it's done?
congrats on having a "happy life" my buddy from the Corps put a shotgun in his mouth and I never knew he was going through anything. He was physically tougher than I. I cried while meeting his family after his death and we both never figured out how he got to that point. We aren't all built the same. Things we come across in life, effect us differently.
I think about taking my life and realize it takes more balls to do so. Selfish or not, that kind of pain must be unbearable.
It leaves a gap decades down the road my family still misses and talks about our uncle. Sorry you went through that man.
@@phoenixjones7191hardest part is wondering why I am not as far gone, going through the same things. am I the fucked up one or has it not hit me yet. Suicide makes you wonder. Am I stronger or weaker. Or less Empathetic. All I know is that in the last few years we have lost more to suicide that have served than in combat.
@@claytonkeever2992 it’s non of the above my guy. It’s compound and complex. Stay up and take care of yourself and those you hold dear. Bring an umbrella but don’t hold it alone
@@Panicsssss Thanks my guy.
@@claytonkeever2992 anytime brother. Loss hurts everyone and it’s deep. If you need to then speak to someone. If at least you have my random ass we can pm but I’m tired of seeing it too and civvies will never understand the kind of rates you’re actually talking about..
Same with concussions in sports. I’ve had 4 diagnosed concussions but probably 6-7 in total from playing women’s soccer. You can’t see the concussion so people think you’re fine when you’re mentally foggy, hyper-emotional, nauseous, sometimes you develop depression. I had a really bad experience with my college assistant coach because of this. It’s a real problem and when people deny your reality it can make you feel even worse.
oh poor you. man the fuck up girl. equality.
“When people deny your reality, it can make you feel worse.”
That shit hit different. It resonated with me, for real. 💯 When you’re really goin through shit that people don’t understand & they tell you to just “get over it.”? Shit would piss me off, cause it’s like they tryna downplay your mental health.
I hope you’re healing from it. Concussions are serious.
Then when you kill your family from CTE. You get labeled a monster
@@deathrager2404 I'm not sure if you're a troll or just stupid. Why do you think people with CTE kill their wives and beat their kids? 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@@JohnGalt916 stop being a pussy and man the fuck up. ya wanted equality right? wellwhen this happens to a man what do people say: man the fuck up. so equality = man the fuck up stop being a pussy. cant handle the heat? get the fuck outta the kitchen.
If you’re a gymnast and you are suffering from mental health issues, you have no business competing , not because it hurts the team but because you don’t want to end up with a broken neck and live the rest of your life in a chair or worse. She did the right thing. Kudos to her.
Still returned to her solo competition the next day... she's a quitter
PTSD is an injury. Traumatic events can mentally break even the strongest minds.
For sure! There's enough physical evidence out there to suggest prolonged traumatic states DO cause degradation in the brain. It's observable in brain scans. I don't understand how people can continue to pretend it doesn't exist (I mean, I CAN understand how, but it's annoying).
This man really triggers me, BRUH!!, as a British Soldier myself this is a serious topic, 1 year ago we had a Soldier shoot himself after finishing his guard duty, went straight in to the shower room and took himself out. We don't know why he chose to do that, sad.
Hey, thanks for all you do 🇬🇧 a lot of people appreciate you and your colleagues
Bruh.... The worst part must've been that nobody knew he was down bad before he decided to leave the way he did
Do you find that the gallows humour that soldiers have can mask a lot of these issues?
Like “if I get one more of these duties I’m gonna off myself” or “if I have one more squaddie get shit I might as well do myself”
So because people say this it’s never taken seriously because it’s equivalent to “if you serve me one more warm beer I’m killing everyone” but if you were an accountant with firearms licences and said that people would intervene?
One of the most common causes of death for men in this country is suicide and its def a lot higher for those in service, you go through so much like :/
It's terrible :(
"These low IQ people, making all these loud comments about stuff they have no concept about." EXACTLY!
Simone doesn't owe anything to anyone. She's proven she's the best and backing out doesn't make her any less of a champion. Gymnastics is easily one of the most dangerous sports out there. You're flying through the air upside down and one mis step you could easily snap your neck and end your life. I don't blame her at all for not participating. She's earned her gold.
It pisses me off when people who've never played a sport let alone gymnastics or have gone through the same amount of pressure someone like Simone has gone through say she's a quitter.
I love you guys. Y'all really put people back in place. "Focus on what is said." People love to reach for something else to confuse the conversation. Y'all are amazing, love the work.
Yes!
I think sometimes people might misinterpret what is said. But only sometimes thought.
Also I agree, and I hope you have a good day.
They are wrong lol but everyone is entitled to their own opinion
@@TheKjpearson who’s wrong
I PRAY MY FRIENDS GET THROUGH THE BATTLES THEY DON’T TALK ABOUT… this is why this is one of my favorite sayings.
🙏😉👌
I have a older friend who was in military. He's been out for two decades and still HAS shell-shock. During 4th of July celebrations he takes a few days off from work, because loud explosions would trigger him? He still hasn't gotten over being shot at or having bombs blow off by his head. He has a greater problems with loud noises to this day.
There's a vet who lives across the street from me... we've both talked about our PTSD, I never served, but I still have mine from growing up and dealing with things in my past...
Idk how many times I've been talking to him out on the lawn and a truck passing on the highway backfires or a firework goes off and he does a front tumble straight into his hedges...
I know he's going through shit, but after we always get a good laugh out of it lmao
@@jaybee8862 so sad. I’m glad you have each other.
This upset me so much. I have an incredibly close friend who's been dispatched overseas in the military, and she's struggling with the mental after all this time. I told her to get discharged but she didn't like the idea of being discharged over mental health. She won't put her health and wellbeing first and the exact reason is because of people like this and it enrages me because she's so important to me but I'm powerless to do anything.
You and your friend are in my prayers.
@@DaiNoShoujoNoYami ty
As an athlete myself, the most important injury to me is any mental injury. If you're having mental issues but you force yourself to go on, not only can you injure yourself, you injure your teammates and become a liability. Mental fortitude is the most important thing to have in general. If you're being called a quitter because of your mental issues, then the people saying you're a quitter don't matter. At the end of the day, maintaining your mental health is key.
the brain is in charge of ALL functions. If that's damaged / compromised, you're fucked. You could even up dead or paralyzed.
Army vet here.
Whoever says that, has no comprehension of what war is...war is hell. 😐
Hooah brother!!
I literally know a dude who went to a psych ward for telling somebody he tried to kill himself. A single fucking week later he shot himself on gun watch because nobody believed him.
Thank you for your service man! We glorify war too much these days but no one should have to go through that. The sacrifices that alot of people made should be the reason why.
Like Mike Tyson said “Social media got ppl comfortable without getting punched in the face.”
Until someone has been behind that line brotha in the red zone they won’t understand it. The military is a factory. They don’t give a damn about the soldiers, just some ibuprofen 800 and they send you back out there. Now I can say this shorty should have said before even stepping out there that I’m not G2G coach. Don’t put me in the game. I can’t go into the RZ in the middle of theater and say nah I’m good. At that point your SL might call you a traitor. Mental health is real, so gotta get the help before it’s too late
Thinking like this drives me up a wall. This thinking is common in the Caribbean as well. The Simone situation she isn't a quitter but she isn't necessarily a hero. She is honourable, humble and has a sense of accountability.
Black people, Caribbean people and everyone with this kind of thinking. If you cannot help yourself, you cannot help others. You can ruin the lives of others around if you don't get yourself in check. I am not saying be selfish but tap out when needed.
she not humble, she sewed a goat on her uniform
@@fearthedeerreckmon8741 she is the gosh and she is also humble she was appreciative and happy with her bronze medal.
@@Oll_704 m8 when ask if knew anyone out there that was capable of beating her dhe said "I don't know if I can be beaten". Y'all some hypocrites, if this was a male athlete y'all would be clowning on them. If an NBA player went around acting as boastful and arrogant as she has then pulled out of the playoffs cause it was "to much pressure for their mental state" y'all would roast that fool.
I tried to self-delete this last week. I drank a lot and took 56 25mg phenobarbital pills and ended up in the hospital and in the psych ward for 3 days.
Self-delete is NO JOKE. Please don't resort to it. There's always something to live for.
Me, personally, I have my dogs and family. I fucked up and now I know I'm never going to try to do that to myself again. Please try to keep your mental health well.
I'm so sorry for your pain. I pray for God to put caring, loving people around you to support you
I'm glad you still alive.❤️
@@thesharinganknight you’re absolutely disgusting
Glad you're still with us
I'm sorry
These ppl that call ppl quitters are the same ones that are the biggest cowards with no backbone and wouldn’t last a day in that other person shoes. All that talk coming from behind the screens and the comfort from your home.
Like Mike Tyson said “Social media got ppl comfortable without getting punched in the face.”
@V O yeah it’s ridiculous
@Beefsteak Pete How fucking dense are you? I mean really.
@Beefsteak Pete what the fuck?
Let's get them in a war zone and see how they like it :)
Quitters are out in training, veterans are no quitters, they finished their training, PTSD is an injury wurse then a physical one. Greeting from A Dutch veteran Sergeant of Infantry(A lucky one cus I have come back the same as I went)
Just as Some people can cope well with pressure some people can cope well with mental issues, doesn't mean everyone does. You're right in the lucky part at the same time you can't be certain it didn't affect even though your not aware of it.
Some training facilities are bullshit and take very long to get through. I didn’t quit when I was freezing my ass off at -45 carrying my machine gun. I did waiting 2 years for my main course to start only for it to be interrupted by this COVID shit.
@@ldahmy my mission was 25 yrs ago. I know I'm fine. Not everyone is that lucky though. Not even people who where right by my side. Anyhow my point was that its wurse then physical injuries. Those are easy to cure mostly. Mental issues are mostly for life
Thank you for comming back home safe now we need to do better for the people who come back worse in our country
Both can be equal imo
Aba, I really appreciate how you advocate for mental health. You and Preach are setting an amazing example. Thank you. Mental health is still part of our health and our mind being unstable can be worse than a physical thing making us unstable. Normalizing getting support when we need it, as well as making it affordable for people to actually get the care they need, is vital for healthier individuals, families, and communities.
That was amazingly well put. I totally agree with you and appreciate A&P for shedding light on the subject
Probably my favorite video from Aba and Preach as of yet. Thanks for this Aba and Preach - I felt like my feelings were validated. This means a lot for people like me who can’t help but be hard on themselves - we wish weren’t and it’s easier said than done.
I had a mental break while serving 5 years in the usaf, requested a discharge after almost putting someone's newborn child at risk after a misjudged call over their allergy test because of the stress I've tried to ignore with working. I get called a quitter and a disgrace for making the decision to not put other's lives at risk over my own inability to focus properly in the laboratory. You can say whatever you want, but rarely will someone choose to think over judging, it's the easier decision for most
Aye good on you for knowing when enough is enough. Putting others well-being ahead of what peers may think. I’m SF or “SecFo” as yall call us, and we’ve had too many members just push through and keep pushing without getting help and it leads to them taking their own lives.
As someone who is deployed currently: There are so many people - from Private to Lieutenant Colonel - who have come across our casualty board for Suicidal Ideations. & I’m only 2 months in my deployment. They don’t take mental health serious until someone either threatens to kill themselves or is OBVIOUSLY injured.
Luckily, I had went through my emotions prior to deployment. Shit is real out here. (Keep in mind that I’m in one of the most stable areas for deployments, too. It’s literally a duty station for people, & there’s cases like this.)
Best of luck and blessings to you on your deployment!
Im assuming you are in Kuwait lol. Ive done a few tours in Iraq and multiple times to Syria during the height of the Syrian war. After it all, I was never the same. It all hit me about 1-2 months AFTER everything was over, the post deployment therapy / re-integration was life saving.
@@InspirebyKhan
Yep. I’m glad you’re doing better. & thank you for your service.
Sending you love and light brother. Take care 👍
mental health of parents is sooo important. when my mom wasn’t doing well mentally (for many different reasons) she used to yell at me all the time for all sorts of reasons, even when it was nonsense. never did it to my brother. it caused a lot of resentment during those few years she did it. once she stopped our relationship flourished, but i can’t imagine how we would have been if she had continued that behavior
It’s also important to recognize “Superwoman” syndrome that Black women are pressured to keep up with from Society. You see it in medicine with practitioners not acknowledging BW’s pain and think they are exaggerating or feel less pain than anyone else. You see it in always thinking that BW can push through pain, stress etc and should because it is what is expected of a “Strong Black woman”. You can take care of everything everyone etc.
Such a great point! 💯
As a Black woman I hate this assumption. We cry, feel pain, and go through struggles just like anyone else. Let Black girls and women be soft and vulnerable in life, we can't be strong 24/7 otherwise we'll crumble.
@@UmightBwrong i recognize your opinion. As i stated i am not speaking on the pressures of BW AND BM. Only the women. My statement was an additional pressure BW feel from society along with our culture not emphasizing mental health issues and care, hell tbh any MEDICAL CARE because of WARRANTED MISTRUST, let alone the lack of luxury. Preach already made that point about the historical context; i am speaking on another pressure. A pressure where in historically broken homes from slavery and systemic imprisonment BW make a way out of no way, and it is celebrated/ accepted. But they are not giving time to grieve or be lax etc, because they should be able to work 3jobs and take care of 6 kids and go to school as an example. It is seen when medical professionals ignore BW pain seeing it as exaggeration, and historically in how BW were experimented on without anesthesia because they were “stronger” and felt less. It is real. It is from “SOCIETY”/our culture (by definition society means any ordered community)as well. In fact a lot of mental health issues are derived from people trying to withstand the pressure of society and keep up with the thinking of the masses or becoming a victim for following suit. So let’s not foolishly disregard that. BW and BM have different struggles although from the same root. For Simone as a BW, my experience as a BW and I’m sure she has felt the same “Superwoman” Pressure from others and herself at times. And it shouldn’t be ignored because of more accepted answer of BPpl just don’t do mental health because of the past. There are many folds and aspects to this issue.
@@terrim.9002 "historically broken homes from slavery and systematic imprisonment"
How do black homes fall apart precipitously only from the 1960s onwards, alongside (but in greater measures than) every other demographic?
@seg162 crack was being pushed into black neighborhoods. Interesting when you look into what groups were working with the cartel and profiting off the drug trade.
I think he was confused on the difference between quitting and a quitter, I feel calling someone a quitter is a characteristic trait that carries on about a person. It’s obvious if you leave something you “quit” because by definition that means “to leave” but to assassinate someone’s whole character over a singular event is unfair, if Simone was a “quitter” she would’ve never made it this far
If a soldier was a “quitter” he wouldn’t make it past basic training but hey these just my initial thoughts let’s tune into this great content📈🔥
It's a she (for some reason i see people being mad at my comment)
@@pheonic3665 huh? The person in the video is a female?
@@pheonic3665 what is you talking about?
@@reinaldomartinez13 I’m so confused bro😭😭😭
@@ThePartmentz i think they were talking about the soldier
When the mind isn't functioning properly the body doesn't function properly.
Simone Biles literally had an episode midair. If she were a lesser athlete she would've probably ended up landing incorrectly and been taken out on a stretcher.
If a soldier has mental issues that soldier will be a liability to themself and their fellow soldiers.
You can't discount someone's health because something isn't apparent.
I feel like since people always label her as the “perfect gymnast” she can’t ever mess up, which is not true. She’s still human, she will make mistakes like the rest of us. I just think people tend to forget that since we put her on top of this pedestal (I’m not saying she doesn’t deserve that title)
You guys said exactly what most of us vets have been saying for years. The softest people got the most mouth.
Not just vets man, some of us came from neighborhoods in the 80s and 90s that were war zones, and learned quickly that bark and bite are two totally different things.
I still remember my parents telling me that I'm not depressed, that I need to man up and keep pushing forward....
I’m glad you continued pushing forward I hope you got the help you needed
Preach said “don’t sacrifice for people who can replace you” ouh that hit
Same here.
"If you're compromised, you're a liability." This is precisely why Simone should have left the event and came home. With that, I am happy for her. She was able to overcome and medal.
Simone had a death in the family.
@Leptune Cannet A quote from Aba.
@Leptune Cannet Google Translate
@Leptune Cannet It means that if you are distracted by some physical, mental, or emotional issue, you will not be able to focus on the task in front of you and can hurt yourself or others.
She was able to overcome and medal? But I thought she quit...
Aba’s conversation with this guy is like my convo with my brother on my mental health. He’ll never understand it, he’s completely blinkered. Completely! He sees me as a coward and a quitter of life. Even though I have diagnosed schizo affective disorder and epilepsy. I have fought to still be here. And live my life! It’s hard man! Really hard.
Very true. Some people just want people with mental disorders or disabilities to constantly look "disabled" and if you don't, you're fine. I had to leave a job years ago due to a PTSD relapse and it was really hard to come to that decision, but I was getting memory lapses and I knew I could slip up and someone could get hurt due to my lapses.
I wouldn't call myself or anyone in a position like that "a quitter".
I never heard about mental illness being ignored or hidden in black American communities (I'm a white Aussie), but that's terrible. I hope people talk about it more and things get better. That feeling of shame when you try to hide this stuff but people start to notice something is "off" about you is terrible.
I commend you Aba on continuing the discussion with that guy. I would've ended it. "Simone let down her country." Yo... I'm good, Simone aint hurt me by deciding take that much needed break with the Olympics. Ppl need to respect other ppls decisions and focus on themselves. That beehive mentality is real 🙄. There's bigger things to worry about.
Exactly! We don't get anything from her being in the Olympics so we aren't hurting when she decides to take a break! Most people only remember her during Olympic season anyway so they need to stop acting butthurt.
@@Inspirayetion True, it's amazing how they responded to her taking that moment to herself. She has serious things going on with her from the abuse to her brother charges. Who knows what else she's dealing with. Most ppl need a tall glass of stfu.
@@mika9883 Amen.
Not to mention she was being sexually assaulted by a former coach and was not protected by the gymnastics community or the public. She owes the country nothing. And as far as I'm concerned any support that black people show this country should be out of personal choice not obligation.
@@dixztube Absolutely... I don't know what more ppl want from her... she's given all that she got to the point she needs to take a break.
I'm a soldier that got medical discharge for PTSD. This hits hard
Thanks for your service homeboy you did what’s best for you
Happy you got out man, hope you're doing better.
Thank you for your services!
glad you got out bro, putting your life on the line for some oil ain't worth your mental well being
Thank you for your service
The number of people who don't understand that invisible injuries can carry the same severity as visible ones frustrates me. Be excellent to each other, you never know what they're going through.
These people say “but they still came back”.
That right there is the problem. They’re viewing ‘coming back’ as a default positive. As Aba said - yeah, Durant came back… and blew out his Achilles!
*HE SHOULDN’T HAVE COME BACK! THAT WAS THE WRONG DECISION.*
It's true, everyone's your best friend until you stop benefiting them. Be aware of who's opinions you actually care about because it's rare and something to be treasured
But what's so fucked up is that those who take advantage of you are rewarded and have so much influence, while the ones who are the real deal are treated like shit as well. Like bruh I got a few good ass friends that actually see me for me. Yet they're fucking dying!! I'm trying to help them out, and fuckers out here shrug their shoulders and tell me "good luck" smh
People who says that about someone who's in the army is just rude and disrespectful! If you've never been on the battlefield for yourselves you have no right to call war veterans quitters!
People who say this need to be drafted and see how they like it :)
@@donovanlocust1106 They'd probably quit during the first week of boot camp.
@@Dragoncurse4 wouldn't even make it past basic training
stroking your egos I see, I don't disagree with y'all it's just funny. don't @ me
[On a smaller scale, as a kid I was often beaten by my father's belt whether unjustly or deserved is negligible. Cuz I wasn't a bad kid, not a bully, bringing home terrible report cards under eight years old is normal where my mind was at, bc play and entertainment is a kid's bread and butter at that age.
On the last time I spilt tears from a whippin', it was bc the food wasn't cooked thoroughly. At 8yo was my first time considering snicide, I swallowed every last hard split pea on my plate trying to die or make him happy to just stop hitting me.
When the blows weren't stopping and all I was hearing was, "I'll give you something to cry about!" Something died in me then. It was a small shift but I weathered that storm and still remember to this day the lost innocence, almost three decades later.
A Shrink would easily diagnose my psychopathy on the first try bc emotions that normal people react with are abnormal to me. I literally have to fake being human. The visceral reaction one would get from seeing cute puppies or a dude getting kicked to the nuts is non-resonant to me.
I can run a nail thru my palm and never acknowledge the pain as a result. Making connections and relationships is as easy as being autistic. PTSD is no joke. And while many are able to fake normal, the public should be glad that people like me only seek self-harm!
Under slightly different circumstances, another would have turned serial killer or mass-mnrderer! Saying, "Man-up!" is just another brush-off! If mental healthcare were cheaper and less shameful in this country,♂️snicide would be far more reduced and♂️would feel more valued and less disposable!✌🏼💊]
This reminds me of the old adage, “you’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t.”
Damn.
Many ppl dont understand that when you break your leg it`s ok to show it. But when you are depressed you have no option but to act normal. If you act out your depression, you will lose friends,you will grow resentful toward yourself and others with everyday, you`ll end up lonely, miserable, unemployed (or in a hard life situation with little to no prospects) and most likely addicted to smth. In the moment, all you have to do with a broken leg is to wait. But with depression you HAVE to be vigilant and fight it all the time.
“I like people who weren’t captured.” It’s always someone who’s have never contributed to a field and sometimes never contributed to anything in general with something to say about those who have.
Because it's the only way they can feel strong. They know they are weak on the inside, but use other's struggles to make them look better.
Helping to build New York Cities skyline isn't doing anything, right?
@@andrewscott8892 Build? He didn't build shit.
@@andrewscott8892 boy, you drank that Kool-Aid to the very last drop, didn't you?
Well, there's a sucker born everyday... and I do believe that you were born yesterday! 😂
I mean McCain ran his mouth, he should be prepared to get the smoke, as a vet idc that Trump said that as it was in response
You know what's even worse, when these soldiers of the past come home exhausted and filled with mental health issues and PTSD, ignoring it (because that's what they're told to do), causing an unhealthy home and family, passing that trauma to their kids, having a generation of broken and lost kids, and the people that didn't even fight *BLAMING* *THAT* *GENERATION* *FOR* *NOT* *FIXING* *THEIR* *PROBLEMS*
There are problems caused by others of their generation. The blame doesn't belong to the soldiers.
@@silverbro13 yeah maybe the blame is all the greedy world leaders around the world starting the wars
In Canada, the clinics that help serving members and Veterans with psychological injuries are called OSI clinics. OSI stands for Operational Stress Injuries and they cover all psychological injuries from PTSD, Depression, Anxiety and lots of other mental health injuries. Trauma is trauma is trauma, isn't a pissed competition and someone who would diminish someone elses trauma has clearly never been in harms way. Thank you for addressing this guys, it was a tough watch, but I appreciate the way that you raised such a difficult subject.
Fake news. Canada does NOTHING for its vets. Except use them for photo ops.
Not sure where you're getting your information from, as though the system here isn't perfect, but every Veteran has access to free mental health resources.
@@oldnotwise71 ROFL LMAO. WRONG.
As someone who ignored my mental health for years only to have a mental breakdown causing seizures and suicidal ideations, I finally got help. I was diagnosed with ptsd & bipolar 1 and am now disabled because I couldn't go on with life the way it was. You're brain is the most important organ, don't ignore it. This video is so important.
I think people forget that your mental state affects your physical state. If your mental state is unstable while you're attempting to do dangerous stuff like gymnastics you're done, that physical injury is coming. Try doing a backflip while doubting yourself before the jump
She’s the greatest of all time. She definitely could have died with her routine. I support her stepping down but it doesn’t make her the new hero. She needs help and support. That dose not make her the new hero FOR dropping out. She’s a hero because of all the things she has already done.
Yeah they have been worse injuries at the Olympics than this. But I do agree she needs some help
Exactly this.. She can be celebrated for past accomplishments, but not for this.
One of your best videos ever. People’s lack of comprehension is mind-blowing.
Ye, straight preachin
This video is important. I appreciate the breakdown y’all did. This was needed! As an army vet to another thank you abba. And preach you’re awesome and being just as supportive if not more. People need to know ptsd doesn’t just stop with vets, anybody can be a victim of this mindset.
Hearing Aba chew us out like that near the end made me pause and listen. This is EXACTLY what I and all of the other young (17-26) people need to hear and consider as we wade deeper into adulthood. It’s this kind of direction we need to have as we try to figure out what kind of people we will become. I’m saving this video just so I can return to the second half and relive those words
ARMY Vet here. PTSD and Mental Health is Hell and so is War, I'm disappointed and angry that many folks don't believe in depression and PTSD....
But these same people love and care for the veterans though fucking liars. I salute you fam thank you for your service.
I suffered from chronic pain from spinal issues which started in my teenage years the pain never stopped it was there all day every day and it destroyed me physically, financially, socially and in the end mentally.
I got depression at age 32 and I know what you say it's real and horrific I become basically a recluse till I was 40 you start avoiding people it's such a dark place.
I'm 48 now and still have my moments but it's not a daily thing now.
In chess you physically move the pieces, but you still need the mental to make the right moves.
In gymnastics you have to physically move yourself, but to execute those movements at that high of a level, with so many people watching and so much pressure on you from being a previous olympic medalist, you need the mental to be as sharp as a japanese knife to perform.
Mental health is SO IMPORTANT! Thank you for making this video. We need to treat all areas of illness.
Stepping down to take care of yourself is the bravest thing you can do.
Not only is it a brave thing to risk others trying to ridicule you for making the right decision, it's also one of the most responsible things to do. Like Aba said sometimes you gotta step down so you don't compromise the rest of your team.
That's an exaggeration but I get the sentiment.
she didnt step down she cherry picked what she thought she could pull off. She came back and performed. She didnt leave. No soldier leaves the millitary because of his mental health then comes back to deploy a few days later.
@@dontrailtyson8405 taking care of yourself and putting your mental health first is not an exaggeration.
@@temari105 it being "the bravest thing a person can do" is....not downing the act but I am downing the statement you made to a certain extent
I may not served the military, but no one isn’t a quitter in my eyes that serve and sacrifice to protect the country they are serving.
Exactly 💯
exactly. They showed up in the first place.
So I made like a general comment on this already. I’m a veteran and like PTSD will get veterans retired. We don’t get to decide to keep going, they will remove us. Retire us.
@@krissybee2484 thanks for serving 🙏🏼 PTSD I’ve never experienced, and it’s ridiculous how civilians think it’s “easy” to solve or take a pill and it’s gone. Especially soldiers seeing life changing situations that mentally f$cks them up.
At least they tried and they say being a mother is hard i think some people are just sensitive and don't know how high privilege's they have it.
A soldier who decides to go to a hospital due to PTSD instead of to the front lines is putting the lives of his or her fellow soldiers FIRST.
This is such an important video. Thanks for talking about this. I don't always agree with everything you guys say, but when you're spot-on, you guys are right on the money. All of his is so important and so true and needs to be said.
This pandemic definitely taught me to prioritize my mental health (in other words, it taught me to value value 🤣🤣🤣)
Lol their channel description still says, "value value" 😂😂😂
Taking care of mental health is good for your BI-OH-LO-GY!!
I love when I get the inside jokes because I’ve watched every video 😂
People don’t understand PTSD isn’t controllable, and most of the time it is very, very hard to overcome.
Facts
With the right treatment (and lots of hard work), it can be met and overcome...to an extent...but with how inaccessible mental health services are at the moment, it's impossible for so many to start down that path of healing. And the healing takes awhile. Took me 10+ years to learn to deal with my PTSD.
It is ironic if he was woman there would be no uproar.
@@Zhello79 I get your point, but the analogy wasn’t nessacary. My aunt was deployed in Iraq & Afghanistan (she was a combat medic when she served), and she was honorably discharged because her mental health went to shit. Guess what? She was greeted with comments like, “you should’ve pushed through it”, “put your feelings aside”, etc.
@Ryan Mosey that's what I think too. It doesn't go away, you just learn to live with it.
I just hope this man isn’t full of pride and can’t admit his wrongs, hopefully he can watch this and acknowledge where he was wrong and grow from it.
Because comparing the military and Olympics is in anyway comparable. Nation vs Nation. That's where it ends. The fact is we got whiney babies today, to use these fools words (SOFT, which is okay) with enabled health problems, called a hero for it, that stem from NOTHING serious. Comparing a broken leg and literal life and death scenario where you screwing up could cost you or someone's life verse someone jumping on some monkey bars is a laughable argument.
If she had a broken leg, nobody would even question this. See the keyword here is MENTAL health, not physical. Imagine comparing PTSD, with anxiety like you nailed his coffin with that. It's like comparing a tap on the ass and full penetration sexual assault.
"We are talking about low IQ comments" as if this argument wasn't flawed from the start. The guy he debated wasn't good at defending his position, or at least didn't know how to word it, yet was calm and you got the emotional dog to come out of you. Comparing physical with anxiety problems is the definition of "STUPID."
EDIT: This ALL got started over people calling her a hero, for essentially QUITTING. I personally don't give a shit because I'm only interested in race walking as an avid walking simulator fan. But if I had to pick a side between hero and quitter. There is way more evidence to suggest a quitter than a "hero."
@@itsyourenotyour9101 💯
@@itsyourenotyour9101 Well the main point of this was mental health *in general* needs to be taken seriously, whether on the battlefield or in the office. Also, Simone Biles - along with several other gymnasts on the Female Olympic Gymnastics team, were sexually assaulted. I'd say that is a good reason to take a break.
He'd better learn something. You don't give a mentally stressed marine a weapon and throw him in a meat grinder. PTSD patients are a grave danger to themselves and others. They can frag their commanding officers, commit suicide or commit war crimes. Not the kind of troops you want in a combat zone.
@Beefsteak Pete so you're gonna forget all the medals she won? Or are you saying that she doesn't actually have mental health issues? Or are you saying that she should've just ignored her issues?
As my dad is a Desert Storm Veteran , I find it very triggering to hear him say people with trauma (mostly mentally) are cowards for giving up. My father was very strong and was in the army for 25 years and now thankfully he's getting help. People like this are very ignorant and forget mental problems are a very real thing. It's not a little thing people choose to do to gain sympathy especially considering certain circumstances.
edit: my dad is 100% mentally disabled due to his PTSD and takes alot of meds to cope with his issues. it doesnt make him weak for getting help. it's more honorable of a soldier to leave the military due to their trauma and deeper issues than to risk others' lives and theirs.
This was literally me at Marine OCS last year.
Disqualifying injury ruined my chances of coming back even, and the fucking comments I received from old friends and some I was in OCS with…
Marines are mean as shit with each other about that kinda stuff.
Wow, no sarcasm or anything but I genuinely thought it was always a brotherhood between you guys that goes all the way until death.
Oh dude that shit is night and day in the service. It's kinda awful how quickly people you've bled with will turn on ya out of insecurity because you had the fuckin' stones take a needed break or have to replan your life and that reminded them how fragile their career actually is. Good commrades are discouraged now it feels. that's one of the reasons i refused to re-up. Waaaaaay to many actual blue falcon fuckos get a slap on the wrist but standing up for subordinates got you demoted >:(
@@chelseae.6779 Yeah, a "brotherhood" until you step out of line and don't "man up" for the collective. This isn't just in the military either, You'd be surprised how many negative things people have to say about you as soon as you stop and take a step back to think about whats best for you.
@@phoenixjones7191 true. I've seen one too many buddy fuckers and brown nosers in the Corps.
I did two deployments to Iraq as an Army combat medic. I'm rated 80% due to PTSD and back problems. If you can't do your job due to your mental health, you shouldn't be down range. Period.
Salute to you bro. I could only imagine the things you've seen...
I think that after he realized that he lost the argument, he simply took the defensive and stayed in attack mode. He simply will not admit to being wrong.
Agreed. Very ego driven conversation on dude's part. Hopefully he takes the time to educate himself and listen more than he talks in the future.
If I'm in a war zone with the military, I don't want the guy who is meant to have my back to have mental health issues. Best thing he can do is remove himself. He can still hold his head up.
“We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won’t. And we’re slowly learning that fact. And we’re very, very pissed off.”
― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club
I should reread that
@@Air00 *Zeroth rule
There's a song called nitroglycerin by crazyeightyeight that has a couple ones from this
Other issue is the more time passes with reality in the current state it's in it's even more emphasized by how insanely lazy it is
As someone who suffers from bipolar depression I seem like the happiest person ever on the surface. Thank you so much for everything you've said in this video, it really means a lot.
Best wishes to you in your journey!
You're awesome never forget that.
The soldier with PTSD can get more than just himself killed.
My mom is that kind of Christian who believes that God and the power of prayer will fix everything, yet she does very little to nothing herself to fix a situation. Now as an almost 30 year old man I realize that a lot of my anger comes from her and that mentality.
Got about the same advice just replace god with astrology
12:47 agreed. One time i injured my knee while riding my bike home from work. the next day it was swollen and hard to stand on, so i went to the walk in clinic to have it looked at. I had a shift that day, so I messaged my manager to let him know i got injured. After seeing the doctor I informed my manager that the doctor said i need to stay off it for a couple of days. but since it was a saturday which is a busy day at the workplace, my manager tried to get me to come in anyway and work at the front instead of the warehouse. when i told him i cant he said i dont have to climb ladders...
everyone you have to live with your body for your entire life and you only get one, so take good care of it. Know your limits and don't let anyone push you beyond it.
I was working as a lifeguard, broke 3 vertebrae and they told me I still had to come in...to LIFEGUARD...guarding children's lives... Oh but they said I could sit down while doing it..
She never quit her whole life... now she's backing out at the top of her game, with nothing left to prove, and losers get to call her a quitter? People are finished. It's over. A new world's coming. Hope I make the cut but if I don't, at least this one's over.
A quitter simply won't get to the olympics in the first place.
Umm she got bronze fam. She proved shes lost her edge lol. If her mental health was that big of a problem, she shouldnt have gone to the literal biggest competition in the world where she would be representing the country ffs.
@@zachrohler1047 Bronze on the highest level is not a joke tho. You think you guys could have gotten a medal at all without her?
@@zachrohler1047 Lol what? She still got a bronze medal on her worst day, meaning she STILL beat out the best of the best from multiple other countries, and was the ONLY American to place in beams. That is one more medal that the USA wouldn't have without her. You make no sense.
You will find two people in this world. People who accomplish nothing that criticize others that have reached heights they will never ever reach, and you have people who have walked the path (maybe not as successful but walked the life), and will give support and a nod of respect to a person because they understood they gave it their all. Some people live in a fantasy world where people should give up their lives to succeed and actually believe they would survive that standard they are putting on others.
Being a parent of a child in a wheelchair.. I’ve noticed visible disabilities are so much easier for people to understand then invisible disabilities..& to be honest invisible disabilities are much harder to navigate