If I remember correctly, Blackbeard's bounty starting with 3.996 can also be read as "san kokoro", which translates into "three spirits" or "three souls". /edit: or "three hearts", I get it. My point is that Blackbeard's bounty relates to his ability to wield multiple devil fruit on the grounds that his body houses multiple souls, hearts, spirits or whatever you wan to call them. And the reason the body can do this is a thing specific to Blackbeard rather than tthe result of any devil fruit and this is also the reason why he never managed to sleep. I dont know why he can do this or who the third soul is but I like the idea that one of the souls in Blackbeard's body is Rocks D. Xebec.
I theorize he actually has three hearts … DF = hearts .. white beard heart was consumed , Ace heart was destroyed so it returned back to a DF . Burgess wanted to cut open Luffys chest for his heart for his DF. Big mom ate mother caramel consuming her heart . BB doesn’t sleep but his hearts alternates between sleep that he wakes up to use his powers .. heck Luffys Gear 5 activates with his heart …
@@mr.g5480 but if he has to switch between hearts he shouldnt be able to use both DFs at the same time. Or what do you think? I‘m not saying you‘re wrong I just also wanted to share my thoughts and hesr what you might have to say bro🙏
the thing about this channel is that it gives you direct Japanese translations, and also does historic background research into characters and such, very cool
Luffy also right too that why he pause and kept quite when Teach was talking. Luffy great at reading people personality he sense Teach had others inside him.
Zoro? That was Luffy first, Zoro just explained to Nami what Luffy meant. Remember Luffy also find out the real Mr.3 in the forest by using his 'instinct' that could be the reason how Luffy sensed even though he still couldn't use Observation Haki, Luffy also sensed Lucci is more powerful and Nami told Chopper, Luffy's nose is better, it could be related to Nika Zoan, because Luffy and Zoro couldn't use Observation Haki before time skip.
The knots that nami used to produce wind are also inspired by a real life technique "wizards from finland that specialized in using wind knots to produce wind for sailing if your ship became becalmed" pretty cool! Oda knows his history
Oda strikes me as the kind of man that reads way more than the average person. The historical and literary prowess his possesses is easily that of a high level scholar.
This might be my favorite black beard theory. Being familiar with Davy Jones and how his crew seems to be the most pirate like in One Piece a lot of it did make sense. I hope at least 50% of your theory is correct. Great job once again!
This take is really interesting. It convinced me in a lot of ways more than any other Blackbeard's origin theories. 3-skulls in his jolly roger da da da he had 3 different bodies of because of the teeth hence he might have 3-devil fruits, it never made sense at least to me. I'll add this to my playlist of One Piece theories. Very good video!
3 skull also represent the class of strongest class of devil fruit he posses. He has the strongest Logia the yami and the strongest pamerica quake fruit. For his split personality disorder he has. He is on a devil fruit hunter need one more zoan fit him. He read a lot on his finding on devil fruit from a book.
I have some info that might be useful. When BB joined WB's crew, the buildings in the background closely resemble the buildings in Sorbet. Meaning it's possible Bonney may have set out on her adventures from the very same dock BB set out on his. BB being at Sorbet kind of implies he could have been one of the people saved at God Valley by Kuma. Perhaps he and his family were sent there as game for the celestials... I think you're on to something with the Davy Jones connection, but it may just be that BB is the reincarnation of Davy Jones while his lineage represents something else entirely. Let me explain. Imu thought Lili was an ally. And I cant see Lili and Joyboy being natural enemies, so what if Lili was deceived by Imu? What if Joyboy was the general of the 20 kingdoms, tasked with defeating the Ancient Kingdom? Sounds impossible? Joyboy was on their side afterall. Their ideology was bad for the WG, so it must be good. That's sound reasoning, but it makes the assumption that the ancient kingdom always had the same ideology. What if the "Era of Slaves" wasn't the beginning of slavery but rather the first era that humans were enslaved? Perhaps before that time Humans enslaved the other races and didn't see it as slavery because those races were created. Designer races. Lunarians, Giants, fishmen, minks. All created by humans as slave races. Then two figures appeared. Nika, and Davy Jones. Davy Jones was a fishman, and was originally a pirate, but became leader of the rebellion thanks to all the wealth he acquired. Nika, a Giant, also fought back with his Giant brethren. They defeated the kingdom of Augur, driving their forces back to the center of the planet from wince humans originated. Then Nika sealed off the safe entrances with the Red Line. This left the remaining humans on the surface cut off from their technological empire. Nika promised these humans that he would "deliver" them from war and slavery, offering a guarantee that they wouldn't be oppresed. Davy Jones did not like this. So he lied to the other races, telling them that Nika and the Giants had betrayed them and sided with the Humans. The other races attacked the Giants who were protecting the remaining human cities, and defeated them. Nika died in the conflict and the Giants were driven back to Elbaf where they wait for Nika till this day. The humans were then enslaved, beginning the era of slavery. Human kingdoms were allowed to exist and even be part of the Ancient Kingdom, but were required to pay a heavy tax. This is what depleted Wano's gold reserves, and what lead to the enslavement of the Tontatas. King Bekori is the tell. He looks just like the "devils" mentioned during the era of slavery. But King Bekori was encentivized to do evil by the ones collecting taxes. The Lunarians ruled over everyone from Marie Jois, where they collected the gold from across the world. The Fishmen took up residence at fishman island as a kind of toll booth to collect gold and slaves from those that tried to pass under the red line. Eventually the fires of rebellion lit once again, and this time it was the Humans and Buccaneers who fought against the Lunarians, Fishmen, and Minks. The Giants, however never became aware of the Buccaneer Joyboy, due to their isolation. Tragically missing the second coming of Nika. Imu led the 20 kings, while Joyboy was the commanding general of the army. Joyboy did exactly what Nika did, spreading the message of deliverance, that was passed down through his giant lineage, as he defeated the Ancient Kingdom. The Ancient Kingdom was left a promise that Joyboy would "deliver" them from slavery and war. Thus the D clan. Imu lied to the other kings, telling them Joyboy had sided with the Ancient Kingdom. Unfortunatley, Joyboy had siezed the ancient weapons when he defeated the Ancient Kingdom, so when he defended it's capital, Uranus was sent to destroy it. Joyboy managed to block the hit and burn out Uranus' power core, but he succumbed to his injuries afterwards. He used a balloon style attack, leading to enies lobby's strange shape. What is Blackbeard? He's a citizen of the kingdom of Augur at the center of the planet. It has a sun suspended in the middle offering 24/7 daylight. It is similar to the concept of a dyson sphere. Every once and a while a someone from Augur will fall into the hole that leads to Enies Lobby and will miraculously survive. Enies Lobby exists to detain them when they do. Their deeper understanding of history is incredibly dangerous to the WG and so they are disposed of as quickly as possible. BB and his family came from Augur in this way and were detained and sent to God Valley to be disposed of. Kuma saved them, sending them to Sorbet. Before BBs parents passed away leaving him an orphan, they told him about Rocks and about his lineage. You see the humans from Augur are the original 3 eyed tribe. A tribe which was nearly erased during the era of slaves due to their appearance being that of an Augur native. We have never seen the forehead of any original BB crew member. They all cover their foreheads. I believe those original members were 3 eye tribe members who BB met, and then told about their lineage. Telling them that they are the rightful owners of the world. The gold which the Lunarians hoarded was sent to a remote island before their defeat. Jaya. There the denizens used the gold to coat their structures with, making it harder to steal.
@@petermolina1317 Thank you for reading all that. It was longer than I expected, and I still left out some key info. Van Augur is a Dutch naming scheme meaning "From Augur". Thus the name of the inner earth kingdom. It's spelling in Japanese is simply "agar". There is a legend from bhuddist lore that the west came to obsess over. A place called "Agarti". In the west It's called "Agartha". Or importantly, "Plutusia", a name that sounds very similar to Lulusia, which is the place where a second hole to Augur was created. Agartha is an inner earth, identical to what I described. A dyson sphere-esqu inner earth with a floating sun in the middle. I theorize that this place is the One Piece, the All Blue, and the Endless Vearth simultaneously. The fishmen discrimination is another point I forgot to cover. It is said to start only 200 years ago, when the robot attacked Marie Jois. I believe these are related. Fishmen were given amnesty by the 20 kingdoms after the ancient war, under the condition that they continue their slave trade under the WG. But this time, they would be enslaving Lunarians, and the Buccaneers who helped Joyboy. They enslaved the Buccaneers for 600 years until something happened which led the Fishmen to free the Buccaneers against the will of the WG. The Buccaneers immediately tracked down the ancient robot, constructed by the ancient kingdom to aid Joyboy in their defense. They played for it the drums of liberation, it then sprang to life and attacked Marie Jois. This event led to the extermination of the Buccaneers, and the beginning of fishman discrimination for their crime of releasing the Buccaneers. It's likely that the Minks did not take part in the ancient war, remaining somewhat neutral, as they don't seem to be openly oppresed like the other races. They likely felt that the Ancient Kingdom's slavery was indefensible, but weren't willing to pick a side for fear of winding up on the losing side.
Its insane that my two fave one piece youtubers thought of the same thing but are referencing different clues. Sawyer also made the same theory a year ago. Since Vander Decken is already made into a character, Davy Jones might be introduced as well.
This continues to be my favorite One Piece theory channel. Besides the unique insights and well-thought out theories, I greatly enjoy the presentation, which is calm, analytical and friendly. It just feels really welcoming, y'know? As for Blackbeard, it's commonly hypothesized that the source of his perplexingly plural persona and freakish fruit capacity is a mythical zoan Devil fruit. I've seen him theorized to have the fruit of a Cerberus, a devil or even a kraken. But one (in my opinion) obvious variant of this theory that I haven't seen anyone mention is that of a human-human fruit model: Troll, or some variation of Jotun. I think the case for him having a mythical human fruit is appealing because we've already seen with Luffy how it can go under the radar, with no visible powers except for an abnormal body. Blackeard has been set up as a foil for Luffy, equal but opposite since the moment he appeared in the manga. Troll is one term used for Jotnar, giants in norse mythology, among others, which are described very varyingly, sometimes they seem indistinguishable from the gods, other times as monstrous, sometimes with many heads. The Jolly Rogers in One Piece tend to, if not always, represent the captain, and Teach's flag has three skulls. (I looked up the meanings of the Dharmachakra to see if the bones on the flag could represent the eight spokes on the wheel, but was unable to find anything connecting to Blackbeard apart from a general connotation to fate.) When I think of a person with three heads, I think of a Troll. Blackbeard even resembles more "modern" depictions of scandinavian trolls, namely a big, hairy person with an aesthetically unsatisfactory face-physiognomy and a big nose. You could also argue that the home of the Jotuns, Utgard, being a somewhat inhospitable wasteland is consistent with the implications of Blackbeard coming from a cold country. This hypothesis doesn't explain his sleeplessness however, unless it is just his personalities taking shifts staying awake.
Not gonna lie, the Xenogears music is so peak and appropriate for this type of content, I legitimately get excited every time I hear “He Who Bears Fangs at God” once these theories start! (Also appropriate considering Luffy, despite also being a God, is fated to and is currently bearing his fangs at the gods of the world right now in the current story).
Man, another great video. Thank you D&D the wait is always worth it. I also noticed something rewatching the zou arc that has to do with Frankys' shirt and what could possibly be the original design of the old kingdom before the current government betrayed them. By combining the current world government and the ancient kindoms symbol, you get the original one. That's probably just a tid bit more than anything important though
I personally believe Blackbeard has no soul. Instead, being an empty vessel. Which fits your hypothesis that he's the Locker. If he takes on the souls of those he kills it could explain his dramatic shifts in personality over the series. Maybe when he was at the mercy of Whitebeard it was Thatch pleading for mercy on not Blackbeard himself.
I've always found that first scene between Luffy and Blackbeard odd. They're so similar and yet opposite. I still have no idea to this day what Oda was trying to hint at with that scene. I just have to wonder, is it possible they're two sides of the same person? Different groups would see the same person in different lights. Could the Nika and Darkness Fruits actually be "inspired" by the same person? One group seeing that person as a hero, and the other seeing that same person as a villain? Or maybe inspired at different points of the same person's life? A hero when he's younger, but turning into a tyrant as he gets older? I do wonder if Blackbeard's Darkness Fruit could be connected to the "Gorosei Psychic Network", that we've seen in the newest chapters? Both of their powers seem tied to darkness in one way or another, after all. Maybe the reason he always seems one step ahead of everyone is because he has intel that no one else would have. What if his Devil Fruit literally allows him to listen into the conversations of the most powerful people of the world? It could be the reason why Blackbeard wanted that specific Fruit so badly. It would also explain why he seems to have different personalities, he's still adjusting to joining this hivemind, due to his Fruit. He doesn't usually act like he has multiple personalities, but different people keep sensing different personalities coming from him. Maybe they're just sensing the other Gorosei on the same "psychic network". Which would mean, Blackbeard would know that Imu wants Vivi. And I do wonder if Blackbeard's backstory will somehow involve a "Sleeping Sickness" of some kind. Oda has been writing more illnesses into One Piece, lately. Ancient Diseases even seem to be a bit of a background plot point, thanks to Saturn's experiments. Maybe as a child, he either had to keep himself awake to stay alive because of the disease attacking his village. Or the One Piece version of the disease is basically a "Awakening SIckness" where you can't go to sleep. As for Blackbeard's lineage, I think it's possible that Blackbeard is basically...everything. He might be a mix of EVERY race in the One Piece World. Fish Men, Giants, Buccaneers, Lunarians, etc. He might be the "perfect mutt" as it were, with the best attributes of all those races, completely by accident. I mean, what do you get if you mix all the colors together? Black! Both the absence and combination of all other colors and light. He's a part of every family in the world. And every one of them abandoned him. Those rings on his fingers represent each one of his past family members. Each from a different race. All coming together in him. This may also explain Oda's "prototype" name for him, "Everything D Teach". I do like your "Davy Jones Locker Human" idea, though. And the ties to Ketu are interesting. But, is it possible we've been misunderstanding why Blackbeard can have multiple Devil Fruits this whole time? What if we're thinking about this from the wrong angle? What if it's not so much that Blackbeard's body can handle having multiple souls inside his body? What if instead he has some way to "erase" or "expel" those spirits from the Devil Fruits? What if he's basically "brainwashing" these Fruits so he just gets the power without the spirits inhabiting his body? Literally destroying the "dreams" of these Fruits just so he can get their power? The problem is, if that was the case, I don't see why he couldn't have way more than just 2 or 3. If he actually could do that, he could just have ALL the Fruits. Although, this theory makes me wonder. Are there actually two "Wills of D" this entire time? The Will of Davy Jones and the Will of the Dawn? Two D's, combined, do make a whole circle, in a round about way.
Interesting theory. With Oda's unpredictability I can see him throwing this curveball. Specially, majority of the readers right now are locked in thinking Blackbeard is is somehow Xebec's son or relative.
If your theory of Blackbeard taking souls is correct… then that means instead of eating both devil fruits, he took Thatch and whitebeard’s soul… It will fit everything perfectly as real life BB original name was Edward Thatch.. which later changed to Edward Teach… and we have 3 characters of that name.. So the story symbolises real BB life as he symbolically killed Thatch name and took teach… plus real BB was killed the way WB was… So now he is all 3 in 1 giving him 3 souls as older theories that he is 3 in 1 person
20:32 i had similar thoughts after watching the Onepiece movie : Heart of Gold ! The young girl was swallowed by a giant fish and unable to sleep inside it due to corpses inside it 😮
If BB were to die if he falls asleep, that drawing where he’s little and shedding a tear next to the view of the moon tells me that he is just a kid that is afraid -- it’s night time, he cannot sleep, and he is simply afraid, because he may die. As a child, I believe he would not be able to help but cry from the fear and confusion about this, and then just having to deal with something like that.. he probably felt so alone too. Damn…. Omg this makes me even more excited to see what’s to come in this series. Another great video! Keep up the great work, Dawn & Dusk!!!
I live in the Caribbean Jamaica specifically.The elderly usually said that at Port Royal the pirates there was so wicked and savage that God sent a flood to the sink the Port.The Great Cleansing I would say😊
YT recommended this vid to me and glad I clicked it. This theory is so good and I thank YT for this. Good work Dawn & Dusk. Looking forward to more vid.
Stussy stole cloning technique from MADs, this is how she created Weevil (35 years old), who in fact is Whitebeard's clone. That cloning technology is what created Blackbeard (38 years old, 2 years after Xebecs defeat) a clone of Xebec with lunarian and buccaneer blood. The clones dont look alike because it was the first and originaltechnology. And Stussy just replicated the process poorly explaining Weevils intelligence. The blood types don't mix, giving Blackbeard 3 personalities. Have been theorizing that Blackbeard is carrying multiple wills, giving him the 3 personalities instead.
If possible, please do a video breaking down the lyrics of Bink's Sake! You have the best analysis of panels, kanji, katakana, and Oda's inspiration for OP!!!! For years I've been curious why Bink's Sake is written the way it is and I'm CONFIDENT you could unlock the secrets behind that song!!!
Chhaya Devi the goddess of shadows is usually described as the mother of Shani, the planet Saturn, and the god of karma and justice: a feared graha; goddess Tapti, the personification of river Tapti; goddess Vishti , the personification of Kala; and a son Savarni Manu, who is destined to be the next and eighth Manu (progenitor of mankind) - the ruler of the next Manvantara period.
I believe BB has davy jones locker, in fact I believe BB IS the locker. Unlike the normal devil fruit user he can use more than one because of the locker. It is the perfect weapon against the D fruits that require cooperations and teamwork whereas the locker wants to grab everything for itself.
Brilliant! :D i might add, Davy Jones locker was born on the day rocks died, the first soul he absorbed was Rocks, sentenced in god valley to the davy jones locker, since Rocks is known to have the strongest king haki known in the series, he woke up davy jones locker, who assimilated his personality and ambitions, second soul was whitebeard, the third he want's is shanks. The Holy trinity of entities (biblical tale (Jonah - jonelocker)), are the father the sun and the holy spirit. Well.. Rocks is the father, whitebeard is the holy spirit, and shanks is the sun. This pretty makes Shanks a certain death by blackbeard in the story. Luffy is gona have to save Rocks Whitebeard and shanks from the depts of davy jones locker.
I know this is old, but it’s more related to my comment on LunaPien, Pappag “Legends tend to grown TAILs and tales.” These potentially long lost hero’s are being marked as Demons from history. Growing a Tail, becoming a demon. Then the lies from the actual evil come, Tales. I’m still really liking my Nekomata feeling 🤔
There is another detail in the same chapter where luffy and teach meet that wasn’t included in the video if I’m not mistaken , when he was leaving, black beard took a sip from his drink and said this drink is very good . As if the person who was in the bar is not the one talking about dreams. For someone who was watching one piece for more than 12years I would like to say that finding your channel is a true delight, thank you for your efforts .
I'm from Germany so i hope you will understand me😅 In Manga Chapter 1055 on Site 9 (in our mangas) there is an picture who is interesting for the "water flute the world"-theory. The old king is going upstairs with Nico and Law to the old Wano City. And then he explained the walls building around Wano in the past. There are three pictures. So if you look to the waterlevel outside Wano, it will rise over the years. And this must happend bevor the lost century. And its not cause of the rain or something else. So in the past, Wano knows about the rising waterlevel. And expected it will go higher an higher over the centuries. SO i think its a proof, that the weapons who rise the level exists in the past and would used by the enemie. And i think its also a proof, that the weapon was used similar times bevor Wano closed the borders and finished building the wall. :)
7:53 This makes a lot of sense considering that I heard a theory from a youtuber called "Polydeuces" that Blackbeard has different personalities based on the amount of teeth that he is missing at that point in time. The easiest one to remember is that when he is overconfident, he has 4 teeth missing. Sometimes he has 3 teeth missing, and he has a different personality for that one as well.
Not sure if anyone remembers, but I only took note of it when I started watching the anime after catching up to the manga first. In Impel Down at the bottom most floor where it’s freezing, there was a brief shot of a frozen figure that had a similar silhouette as Rocks. They said in regards to it “he’s either dead or preserved for the future” and then they never reference it again (presumably for a later plot) I mean there’s a good chance it’s not Rocks but I remember in the moment when I saw the episode that they seemed strikingly similar. Makes me wonder how it can be connected to the points made in this video
Wow! Fantatic video. You mentioned that blackbeard has several souls, and I think that in the last photo his real personality was crying because it was weaker than the other souls in his body, and that real personality can wake up only at the nighttime. His real personality which is able to wake up only at nights (darkness) might be crying because the whitebeard pirates (white whale ship) accepted him in their crew (swallowed) and because all the crew members knew about the uniqueness of Blackbeard they always were suspicious and always looked at him (drilled with their eyes, just like eyes in the form of moon), especially at night time when the real personality awakens and gets "hated" bc of the another soul which acts at daytime. The real personality might be weaker than the soul in his body (rocks) and it can't get out at his own will. I think that this real personality is not bad, and just loves devil fruits (learns about them at nights). And hope that Luffy will eventually gift freedom to the real personality of Blackbeard.
The will of D people is The dharmachakra or wheel of dharma is a widespread symbol used in Buddhism. The symbol also finds usage in Hinduism, particularly in places that underwent religious transformation, and in Jainism and in modern India.
What about 夜愛の黎 ? Wouldn't that make a lot more sense? 夜愛 (Yo Na), wherein 夜 (Yo) is written as in Night and 愛 (Na) written as in Love/attracted/attached to 黎(Rei) as in Black/Dark/many Possibly even Rei as in 令 rule/order/command Something along the lines of Lover of the many dark nights, or Commander of the Night would be a lot more obvious than the whole weird ghost thing. It could also be read as 詠凪の黎 詠凪 (Yo Na) wherein 詠 (Yo) is written as in Singing a poem 凪 (Na) as in Calm at Sea and 黎 as in Black/Dark/many. That would evoke images of a a calm, dark sea - a sea where there is no Singing (Binks Sake). A sea of Darkness. I'm not japanese and do not speak japanese. It's just what I found when looking at the kana and seeing if there's a fitting Kanji.
I'm shocked no one has mentioned that Vanderdeken may of originally been from the holyland & that the bloodline might be a Celestial Dragon bloodline & the original Vanderdeken may of been cursed by Imu. I honestly think that its heavily hinted that Imu or Joyboy is the one that cursed the Vanderdeken bloodline.
Good and interesting vid, this reminds me of Brooke his power referring to "souls", he was also a contrast vs Big Mom, looks to me he can be of use vs Blackbeard also, maybe being able to let the souls gathered by Black Beard escape their lockers, which may result in weakening Black Beard and removing those extra devilfruits he is able to use.
One thing that keeps going in my head about one piece , is joy boys relationship to lili. Was he a giant and did he take the human human fruit so he. Could be human for her. 😅😅😅😅
Ive never been a fan of cerberus/kraken theory, but it occurred to me what the marines stole from hachinose island that Xebec went to get back was probably that islands guardian deity fruit. It was the same time the goverment aquired Alabasta and Wano's guardians. And the island fruit making hachinose island look like a octopus, which i thought the skull resembled long ago.
19:10 the only problem they couldn't use observation Haki before time skip and even if they did, remember observation Haki user Enel couldn't sense the living people who were inside of the giant snake Nola, so if Luffy used his Nika Zoan power to smell something a different soul (since Luffy before time skip also found out the real Mr.3 in the forest by saying it was instinct) then that could make sense, but not sure how Zoro could sense that he probably just understood what Luffy meant.
-Davy Jones had a locker to collect all his treasures and Blackbeard has a "magic locker" to collect everything he absorbs. Would not have sense that BB's fruit was Davy Jones fruit? Such as Luffy, my guess is that their fruit (gomu and yami) had Nika and Davy Jones as past users, or maybe their dreams create those fruits. Davy Jones wanted to keep his locker aways from others creating a magic locker to contain his treasures and Nika wanted to move free becoming rubber. When they died, gomu and yomi fruit appeared and, when users awaken their power, the original "dream user" and past devil fruit users can appear. WHY? Because their souls are linked to the fruit. -About Jonah been eaten by a whale, also reminds us about Pinnocchio and Geppetto, the obvious reference to Ussop. I also read that Davy Jones locker was modifed by nordic gods into "Rán", a goddess personification of the sea that is associated with a net, which uses to capture sea-men. Rán is the ruler of the realm of the dead at the bottom of the sea to which people who have drowned go. "Rán" comes from "theft, robbery" and has a curious line in a famous nordic book called "Poetic Edda": "And Sigrun above, brave in battle, protected them and their vessel; the king's sea-beasts twisted powerfully, out of Ran's hand toward Gnipalund" (also Helgi Hundingsbane) Rán sent "king's sea-beasts" to capture Helgi but Sigrun helped them. Did Oda actually used nordic mythology to inspire him right? Davy family going for Shirahoshi that controls sea kings, "Davy Jones real locker" being the One Piece, BB being Rocks inherited will and searching Davy Jones dream (in form of devil fruit)... ODA AND HIS TEAM HAD A GALACTIC SIZE BRAIN.
Crazy theory the 5 elders and imu are highly advanced pacifista from 900 years ago obtained/gained control of and ultimately left behind by Nefertari lily and the old 20 kings to keep "peace" in the world of one piece. They never age and the last time they had to recharge using the mother flame was 200 years ago when the robot on egg head also received power and attacked the red line.
I paused this at two minutes and 34 seconds. I feel so vindicated I feel like you are about to say that the D stands for Davy Jones. Back in the day I wrote a theory on Oro Jackson for the same exact reason it’s the Occam’s razor of what the D could mean it’s a pirates manga, so obviously the stands for Davy Jones. He must’ve been like the king of the pirate Kingdom, or something, and Marshall d. teach is his descendants. Maybe all of the d clan are his descendants maybe he was the father king of the ancient kingdom, who knows?
Maybe there are two D. clans.. The Dawn and Dusk clans.. All the attacks luffy is making now in egghead are Dawn related.. also in cliffhangers or important moments we "hear" DON.. that sounds just as Dawn.. I love all this theories, it enriches my experience so much, i wish i wasnt from a poorly managed country to support this channel monnetarely. 😢😢 Love your work!!
Could be, but, his Jolly Roger has 3 full skulls and 4 leg bones, NOT 8. That would account for the bones of cerberud and having more than 1 soul, while supporting the myth that cerberus had 1 head on guard, while the others slept. The teeth missing and the time of day would reveal an actual guard shift schedule. Just my thoughts.........while BB could still be the decendant of Davy Jones. Seems it is tying together the bottomless pit of Hell/Hades, with BB obsession with that Dark-Dark fruit.
The idea of Blackbeard being related to Davy Jones is an interesting thought. I don't think I can offer anything as thought provoking. But I will put a lot of my thoughts out there. I apologize in advance because I rambled a lot. Almost lilke I'M an anime villain. There are things that have to be considered when discussing BB. All these pieces MUST fit together somehow. What are these pieces? The knowledge BB has of devil fruits (to have found the darkness one), relation to Xebec/archaeology, his strange body and lastly his relation to the moon. So what is my speculation? First lets cover the picture of kid BB and why I think it can be used. We have gotten other kid pics of characters and they didn't show us anything. This is actually incorrect. Lets cover the Brooke one since its actually kinda obvious when you remember how Brooke was introduced. We see kid brooke is dirty and scrungy looking. When we meet Brooke he has the air of decorum with his speech but its a big joke he can be just as vulgar and without manners as Luffy is. And we ALL know how Luffy grew up. These similar upbringing is why the two get along in that sense. Then we have kid Kizaru. And this has come to fruition in the most recent Egghead arc. Not even in the sense of Kizaru being super smart or anything but explains his friendship with Vegapunk. We see how happy Kizaru is to learn and thus why he'd consider VP so important to him. Clearly BB is crying and looking angry but more important is we have the moon in the background. At first I thought it was just meant to be BB being the moon to Luffy's sun but the thing is the moon isn't full in the picture. We know the fullness of the moon and the whole white hair thing is a prevalent theme in the story with the energy steroids and Minks. There is this theory that the minks are essentially calling upon the power of their ancestors. We even have Kuro way back in the East Blue seemingly having a connection the moon. Now I could be wrong as I haven't went back to confirm in the manga but in the anime when BB kills Thatch its all cloudy. Basically I am proposing that BB ISN'T carrying on someone's will nor passing his will onto others. Every Will of D member has done one of those things. This is why the moon is only a half moon. Before I proceed I am going to propose what I consider highly unlikely but this thought crossed my mind. Could BB be part Lunarian? There a few things that fit into place if this is the case with the info we know. I think its possible that if any race would know about devil fruits it'd stand to reason to be the former gods right? I mean the current ones do so why not the ones before them? BB joined WB's crew to get the darkness fruit meaning he had his plan before he joined WB and no I don't think kid BB had some grand scheme back then. Merely he wanted to get the fruit to take the world. Teach being half lunarian would also explain a few things. First how he was seemingly able to handle Ace's fire as well as he had. It would explain his unique body. As far as we know King is the ONLY Lunarian so I think that would qualify. It also would add another layer to when Teach was introduced. He was introduced in Jaya where he'd go on to say the sky island DID exist. This would also explain why BB is so weird as a member of the D clan. The only other D member of a different race than human was giants and that was Saul. Why would Oda include Saul? If we saw more giants have the D that would explain it more but we don't. It is JUST Saul's family that we know. But unlike Saul who comes from a society that worships the sun god BB IS a god. BB is both "a god" and an enemy of the gods. This is why BB is a D but doesn't smile. And why ultimately BB is his own worst enemy. We need to know WHY BB would care about ancient history. And I think if he was part lunarian that would explain it. He could have wanted to learn all about the Lunarians. I mean we know Whitebeard and Big Mom heard of them so it is not impossible to gather that knowledge. The real question is how did he learn about Xebec? I have a thought. In a recent video Dak's Sake brought forth an idea for Shiki to end up playing a major role in the story. I don't really see Shiki being relevant in that way. But I CAN see Shiki being used to explain who Xebec was. This would explain where BB got the knowledge of Xebec since Shiki was on his crew. Here is a simple question. Why have the old hag from Wano change into a younger version of Shiki? I believe it is because THAT Shiki will be the same one who will give BB that knowledge. Why would Shiki give BB this knowledge? I d.on't really know. Mybest guess is some kind of scheme. But in truth I think the actual answer is kinda obvious. Consider when the God Valley incident happened. BB was like 2 when it happened. I am suggesting that Shiki was a bit more fresh from that event than Kaido and BM were so perhaps he just vented about Xebec or something. With Kuma's backstory we know people of different races can have kids together yet the kid will take on the traits of one of the parents. This would be why BB doesn't really resemble the Lunarians. There is also something worth noting about BB. He has the darkness fruit which is the only other fruit in One Piece that can related to the theme of Space that isn't Luffy's own. is that a bit of a stretch? I don't think so. Thanks to Egghead we know Kizaru's kid picture was relevant. It wasn't super direct but his love of studying as a kid ended up being important as him building a friendship with the world's most brilliant scientist. I am trying to interpret BB's picture in a similar way. Do I think what i proposed is likely correct? Not even a little. But all these thoughts just came to me and I just had to blurt them out. Edit: I totally forgot to cover this. First here is a thought. I think as a community we keep trying to justify BB not sleeping but what if it is just a simple answer? Maybe that has NOTHING to do with his unique body. I mean we have to consider this is the same story that has characters be starving for an extended period of time and then just eat a buffet and are all okay. Not to mention the whole drinking milk thing. I think the actual reason BB could never sleep is NOT because of any biological reason but because he was always concerned with his own survival. Why a snow island? Well because the weather can be so extremely harsh it could lead to death. In a sense BB's goal to take the world might just be similar to Kuro's own motivation. To be able to live with peace of mind.
another thing i noticed, is that at the end of their conversation blackbeard said that the drinks taste good today, but when he was in the pub he disliked it , was it the same drink or different did he have a change of soul when he got out of the pub and luffy and zoro noticed the difference in his personality or something
I'm really surprised that you know about Rahu and Ketu since not many people know about jyotish however I think rather than Ketu, Blackbeard would be better represented by Rahu. Only because Rahu represents worldly desire and if I remember correctly ketu is believed to be responsible for the lunar eclipse while Rahu is known for his attempts at eating both the sun and the moon which is known as Rahu's revenge for being cut in two by Vishnu but it really could be either so its cool to here it mentioned. Its also funny that Hanuman also tried to eat the sun but who knows maybe One Piece will parallel the Indian epic of the Ramayana if one of the characters most likely Vivi gets kidnapped by the Five Elder Planets or Imu which I think would add to what you were saying about the redline in your last video.
2:08 - _"Blackbeard could be the descendant of Davy Jones..."_ You think so? While I think Kurohige could has similar race with Kuma, the Bucanneer. Remember that even Vegapunk still confused and amazed to witness how Kuma's physical body, soul, and mind keep intact even after his free will was revoked. There was a book released back in 1922 named *Blackbeard Bucanneer*
The Blackbeard drawing is black white even in the couloured version of the manga because its not a scene in the manga its a drawing from an SBS section from Oda regarding a fans question. So him not being coloured is not a forshadow or whatever its just normal because whenever Oda draws characters as kids (and all other pictures for the matter)in the SBS section they are NEVER coloured
I wonder if Luffy vs Blackbeards destined fight could be tied to One pieces worlds version of Ragnarök. As in their Giants has an old tale where it could be the trigger for it.
Before it was revealed that Kuma's is a Buccaneer,i always speculated that Blackbeard might also be one,he is the only one with the same proportions and size. I always thought Kuma was like that because he was experimented on but why BB has the same body as him but was never experimented on so how could he achieve such a "strange body" as Marco says. I believe he's a Buccaneer or he's a mix between 2 races.
I can't help but think: Nika, being the Sun God, and Blackbeard holds that Dark Dark fruit, well, Black Holes usually swallow Light (Sun in this case). Also, I'm thinking that, Nika/Luffy will be swallowed up by BlackBeard's power and "disappear" for a time. It's similar to how the goddess, Amaterasu hid inside a cave and "emerged" afterwards.
As a native greek speeker, i have to inform you of litrally myriad of greek wordplays and mythology references in one piece. I might even get to point some of them out sometime.
Hey Dawn & Dusk, can you clarify something for us? In the Chapter 1103 -- Page 08, Saturn says that Ginny was the eight spouse of a celestial dragon in some translations it includes "a fellow", meaning that the Gorousei is not the Father. In another translation, he said "eight spouse of the sacred land". Could Saturn be bonney's biological dad? The narrative would be so more intensive if that's the case.
If I remember correctly, Blackbeard's bounty starting with 3.996 can also be read as "san kokoro", which translates into "three spirits" or "three souls".
/edit: or "three hearts", I get it.
My point is that Blackbeard's bounty relates to his ability to wield multiple devil fruit on the grounds that his body houses multiple souls, hearts, spirits or whatever you wan to call them.
And the reason the body can do this is a thing specific to Blackbeard rather than tthe result of any devil fruit and this is also the reason why he never managed to sleep.
I dont know why he can do this or who the third soul is but I like the idea that one of the souls in Blackbeard's body is Rocks D. Xebec.
That also matches his Jolly Roger. Will he eat a 3rd Devil Fruit?
@@spider-ballor has he not already ate a third one and he’s kept it secret even from the beginning???
maybe he was trying to eat Law's@@spider-ball
I theorize he actually has three hearts … DF = hearts .. white beard heart was consumed , Ace heart was destroyed so it returned back to a DF . Burgess wanted to cut open Luffys chest for his heart for his DF. Big mom ate mother caramel consuming her heart . BB doesn’t sleep but his hearts alternates between sleep that he wakes up to use his powers .. heck Luffys Gear 5 activates with his heart …
@@mr.g5480 but if he has to switch between hearts he shouldnt be able to use both DFs at the same time. Or what do you think? I‘m not saying you‘re wrong I just also wanted to share my thoughts and hesr what you might have to say bro🙏
This channel is such a gift to us English-speaking one piece fans. Thank you. 💗💗
the thing about this channel is that it gives you direct Japanese translations, and also does historic background research into characters and such, very cool
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Zoro was right about Bonney being a child. Now, he is right about Blackbeard being THEM!
Luffy also right too that why he pause and kept quite when Teach was talking. Luffy great at reading people personality he sense Teach had others inside him.
Zoro? That was Luffy first, Zoro just explained to Nami what Luffy meant. Remember Luffy also find out the real Mr.3 in the forest by using his 'instinct' that could be the reason how Luffy sensed even though he still couldn't use Observation Haki, Luffy also sensed Lucci is more powerful and Nami told Chopper, Luffy's nose is better, it could be related to Nika Zoan, because Luffy and Zoro couldn't use Observation Haki before time skip.
@@timurjack8773 good lord, you luffy fans are insecure
@@Victhemightyno you zoro fans try to have zoro one up luffy whenever you can and it’s always lies and half truths smh
@@Victhemightymad because zoro can’t beat someone who luffy basically one shot
The knots that nami used to produce wind are also inspired by a real life technique "wizards from finland that specialized in using wind knots to produce wind for sailing if your ship became becalmed" pretty cool! Oda knows his history
Oda strikes me as the kind of man that reads way more than the average person. The historical and literary prowess his possesses is easily that of a high level scholar.
Another hint between Locker & Rocker, is that Blackbeard’s name is Marshall, like the most famous brand of guitar amplifiers.
As soon as you said BB might be Davey Jones descendant, I got chills. What the hell!
BB- Davey Jones!
Shanks- Figarland Garling!
Buggy- Xebec!
Now we know damn well we ain't going to davey Jones locker 💀💀💀
This might be my favorite black beard theory. Being familiar with Davy Jones and how his crew seems to be the most pirate like in One Piece a lot of it did make sense. I hope at least 50% of your theory is correct. Great job once again!
Wonder if there could be a Jack Sparrow of Edward Kenway 😂😂
This take is really interesting. It convinced me in a lot of ways more than any other Blackbeard's origin theories. 3-skulls in his jolly roger da da da he had 3 different bodies of because of the teeth hence he might have 3-devil fruits, it never made sense at least to me. I'll add this to my playlist of One Piece theories. Very good video!
3 skull also represent the class of strongest class of devil fruit he posses. He has the strongest Logia the yami and the strongest pamerica quake fruit. For his split personality disorder he has. He is on a devil fruit hunter need one more zoan fit him. He read a lot on his finding on devil fruit from a book.
This theory is way better then BB being Rocks son . Oda isnt that simple.
Oda known for breaking ankle he keeping Rock reveal for a great reason.
If Luffy was Roger's son i wouldn't agree with you 😂
They just said he’s zebeks kid in the manga bro
@brennananderson2400 what are you talking about?
@@Thinktank306 lol no
I have some info that might be useful. When BB joined WB's crew, the buildings in the background closely resemble the buildings in Sorbet. Meaning it's possible Bonney may have set out on her adventures from the very same dock BB set out on his. BB being at Sorbet kind of implies he could have been one of the people saved at God Valley by Kuma. Perhaps he and his family were sent there as game for the celestials...
I think you're on to something with the Davy Jones connection, but it may just be that BB is the reincarnation of Davy Jones while his lineage represents something else entirely. Let me explain.
Imu thought Lili was an ally. And I cant see Lili and Joyboy being natural enemies, so what if Lili was deceived by Imu? What if Joyboy was the general of the 20 kingdoms, tasked with defeating the Ancient Kingdom? Sounds impossible? Joyboy was on their side afterall. Their ideology was bad for the WG, so it must be good. That's sound reasoning, but it makes the assumption that the ancient kingdom always had the same ideology.
What if the "Era of Slaves" wasn't the beginning of slavery but rather the first era that humans were enslaved? Perhaps before that time Humans enslaved the other races and didn't see it as slavery because those races were created. Designer races. Lunarians, Giants, fishmen, minks. All created by humans as slave races. Then two figures appeared. Nika, and Davy Jones. Davy Jones was a fishman, and was originally a pirate, but became leader of the rebellion thanks to all the wealth he acquired. Nika, a Giant, also fought back with his Giant brethren. They defeated the kingdom of Augur, driving their forces back to the center of the planet from wince humans originated. Then Nika sealed off the safe entrances with the Red Line. This left the remaining humans on the surface cut off from their technological empire. Nika promised these humans that he would "deliver" them from war and slavery, offering a guarantee that they wouldn't be oppresed. Davy Jones did not like this. So he lied to the other races, telling them that Nika and the Giants had betrayed them and sided with the Humans. The other races attacked the Giants who were protecting the remaining human cities, and defeated them. Nika died in the conflict and the Giants were driven back to Elbaf where they wait for Nika till this day. The humans were then enslaved, beginning the era of slavery. Human kingdoms were allowed to exist and even be part of the Ancient Kingdom, but were required to pay a heavy tax. This is what depleted Wano's gold reserves, and what lead to the enslavement of the Tontatas.
King Bekori is the tell. He looks just like the "devils" mentioned during the era of slavery. But King Bekori was encentivized to do evil by the ones collecting taxes.
The Lunarians ruled over everyone from Marie Jois, where they collected the gold from across the world. The Fishmen took up residence at fishman island as a kind of toll booth to collect gold and slaves from those that tried to pass under the red line.
Eventually the fires of rebellion lit once again, and this time it was the Humans and Buccaneers who fought against the Lunarians, Fishmen, and Minks. The Giants, however never became aware of the Buccaneer Joyboy, due to their isolation. Tragically missing the second coming of Nika.
Imu led the 20 kings, while Joyboy was the commanding general of the army. Joyboy did exactly what Nika did, spreading the message of deliverance, that was passed down through his giant lineage, as he defeated the Ancient Kingdom. The Ancient Kingdom was left a promise that Joyboy would "deliver" them from slavery and war. Thus the D clan. Imu lied to the other kings, telling them Joyboy had sided with the Ancient Kingdom. Unfortunatley, Joyboy had siezed the ancient weapons when he defeated the Ancient Kingdom, so when he defended it's capital, Uranus was sent to destroy it. Joyboy managed to block the hit and burn out Uranus' power core, but he succumbed to his injuries afterwards. He used a balloon style attack, leading to enies lobby's strange shape.
What is Blackbeard? He's a citizen of the kingdom of Augur at the center of the planet. It has a sun suspended in the middle offering 24/7 daylight. It is similar to the concept of a dyson sphere. Every once and a while a someone from Augur will fall into the hole that leads to Enies Lobby and will miraculously survive. Enies Lobby exists to detain them when they do. Their deeper understanding of history is incredibly dangerous to the WG and so they are disposed of as quickly as possible.
BB and his family came from Augur in this way and were detained and sent to God Valley to be disposed of. Kuma saved them, sending them to Sorbet. Before BBs parents passed away leaving him an orphan, they told him about Rocks and about his lineage. You see the humans from Augur are the original 3 eyed tribe. A tribe which was nearly erased during the era of slaves due to their appearance being that of an Augur native.
We have never seen the forehead of any original BB crew member. They all cover their foreheads. I believe those original members were 3 eye tribe members who BB met, and then told about their lineage. Telling them that they are the rightful owners of the world.
The gold which the Lunarians hoarded was sent to a remote island before their defeat. Jaya. There the denizens used the gold to coat their structures with, making it harder to steal.
Amazing theory.
@@petermolina1317 Thank you for reading all that. It was longer than I expected, and I still left out some key info. Van Augur is a Dutch naming scheme meaning "From Augur". Thus the name of the inner earth kingdom. It's spelling in Japanese is simply "agar". There is a legend from bhuddist lore that the west came to obsess over. A place called "Agarti". In the west It's called "Agartha". Or importantly, "Plutusia", a name that sounds very similar to Lulusia, which is the place where a second hole to Augur was created. Agartha is an inner earth, identical to what I described. A dyson sphere-esqu inner earth with a floating sun in the middle. I theorize that this place is the One Piece, the All Blue, and the Endless Vearth simultaneously.
The fishmen discrimination is another point I forgot to cover. It is said to start only 200 years ago, when the robot attacked Marie Jois. I believe these are related. Fishmen were given amnesty by the 20 kingdoms after the ancient war, under the condition that they continue their slave trade under the WG. But this time, they would be enslaving Lunarians, and the Buccaneers who helped Joyboy. They enslaved the Buccaneers for 600 years until something happened which led the Fishmen to free the Buccaneers against the will of the WG. The Buccaneers immediately tracked down the ancient robot, constructed by the ancient kingdom to aid Joyboy in their defense. They played for it the drums of liberation, it then sprang to life and attacked Marie Jois. This event led to the extermination of the Buccaneers, and the beginning of fishman discrimination for their crime of releasing the Buccaneers.
It's likely that the Minks did not take part in the ancient war, remaining somewhat neutral, as they don't seem to be openly oppresed like the other races. They likely felt that the Ancient Kingdom's slavery was indefensible, but weren't willing to pick a side for fear of winding up on the losing side.
Not from India, but as a Hindu, I can confirm that everything you said about "Ketu" is correct, a well-researched video.
This might be the best explanation of black bread’s character so far.
mmmmm, black bread :3
Ah yes Black Bread 🍞
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Nothing here is that new
@@pottskillgrimdon't want to be racist but White Bread is better
I got to watch this one with some buddies I showed your content! it looks like your channel is growing! Well deserved!
Its insane that my two fave one piece youtubers thought of the same thing but are referencing different clues. Sawyer also made the same theory a year ago. Since Vander Decken is already made into a character, Davy Jones might be introduced as well.
This continues to be my favorite One Piece theory channel. Besides the unique insights and well-thought out theories, I greatly enjoy the presentation, which is calm, analytical and friendly. It just feels really welcoming, y'know?
As for Blackbeard, it's commonly hypothesized that the source of his perplexingly plural persona and freakish fruit capacity is a mythical zoan Devil fruit. I've seen him theorized to have the fruit of a Cerberus, a devil or even a kraken. But one (in my opinion) obvious variant of this theory that I haven't seen anyone mention is that of a human-human fruit model: Troll, or some variation of Jotun. I think the case for him having a mythical human fruit is appealing because we've already seen with Luffy how it can go under the radar, with no visible powers except for an abnormal body. Blackeard has been set up as a foil for Luffy, equal but opposite since the moment he appeared in the manga.
Troll is one term used for Jotnar, giants in norse mythology, among others, which are described very varyingly, sometimes they seem indistinguishable from the gods, other times as monstrous, sometimes with many heads. The Jolly Rogers in One Piece tend to, if not always, represent the captain, and Teach's flag has three skulls. (I looked up the meanings of the Dharmachakra to see if the bones on the flag could represent the eight spokes on the wheel, but was unable to find anything connecting to Blackbeard apart from a general connotation to fate.)
When I think of a person with three heads, I think of a Troll. Blackbeard even resembles more "modern" depictions of scandinavian trolls, namely a big, hairy person with an aesthetically unsatisfactory face-physiognomy and a big nose.
You could also argue that the home of the Jotuns, Utgard, being a somewhat inhospitable wasteland is consistent with the implications of Blackbeard coming from a cold country. This hypothesis doesn't explain his sleeplessness however, unless it is just his personalities taking shifts staying awake.
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The idea that Blackbeard's childhood image is him crying inside / beside a whale and not him crying under the moon would be a crazy twist.
I just can't see it, i feel like that point is reaching too much. Only time will tell though.
Not gonna lie, the Xenogears music is so peak and appropriate for this type of content, I legitimately get excited every time I hear “He Who Bears Fangs at God” once these theories start! (Also appropriate considering Luffy, despite also being a God, is fated to and is currently bearing his fangs at the gods of the world right now in the current story).
Man, another great video. Thank you D&D the wait is always worth it. I also noticed something rewatching the zou arc that has to do with Frankys' shirt and what could possibly be the original design of the old kingdom before the current government betrayed them. By combining the current world government and the ancient kindoms symbol, you get the original one. That's probably just a tid bit more than anything important though
Your theories are hitting hard lately, keep up!
Surely one of the best one piece channels on yt, just the fact that you do so much work make u so unique❤❤
YES! ANOTHER DAWN N DUSK VIDEO!
I personally believe Blackbeard has no soul. Instead, being an empty vessel. Which fits your hypothesis that he's the Locker.
If he takes on the souls of those he kills it could explain his dramatic shifts in personality over the series.
Maybe when he was at the mercy of Whitebeard it was Thatch pleading for mercy on not Blackbeard himself.
I truly appreciate your videos. They're well made and inspire intrigue. Keep making them. I look forward to more. Peace and love!
we need another videooo upload on here fasttt pls😭 love the content , definitely one of my favorite if not my favorite one piece creator on here.
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN the bonus at the end, AMAZING, never heard something like that or thought about that. Thanks
I BELIEVE THAT TRUE FORM OF BLACKBEARD IS AN OCTOPUS.....
REMEMBER....OCTOPUS HAS 3 HEARTS.
I've always found that first scene between Luffy and Blackbeard odd. They're so similar and yet opposite. I still have no idea to this day what Oda was trying to hint at with that scene. I just have to wonder, is it possible they're two sides of the same person? Different groups would see the same person in different lights. Could the Nika and Darkness Fruits actually be "inspired" by the same person? One group seeing that person as a hero, and the other seeing that same person as a villain? Or maybe inspired at different points of the same person's life? A hero when he's younger, but turning into a tyrant as he gets older?
I do wonder if Blackbeard's Darkness Fruit could be connected to the "Gorosei Psychic Network", that we've seen in the newest chapters? Both of their powers seem tied to darkness in one way or another, after all. Maybe the reason he always seems one step ahead of everyone is because he has intel that no one else would have. What if his Devil Fruit literally allows him to listen into the conversations of the most powerful people of the world? It could be the reason why Blackbeard wanted that specific Fruit so badly. It would also explain why he seems to have different personalities, he's still adjusting to joining this hivemind, due to his Fruit. He doesn't usually act like he has multiple personalities, but different people keep sensing different personalities coming from him. Maybe they're just sensing the other Gorosei on the same "psychic network". Which would mean, Blackbeard would know that Imu wants Vivi.
And I do wonder if Blackbeard's backstory will somehow involve a "Sleeping Sickness" of some kind. Oda has been writing more illnesses into One Piece, lately. Ancient Diseases even seem to be a bit of a background plot point, thanks to Saturn's experiments. Maybe as a child, he either had to keep himself awake to stay alive because of the disease attacking his village. Or the One Piece version of the disease is basically a "Awakening SIckness" where you can't go to sleep.
As for Blackbeard's lineage, I think it's possible that Blackbeard is basically...everything. He might be a mix of EVERY race in the One Piece World. Fish Men, Giants, Buccaneers, Lunarians, etc. He might be the "perfect mutt" as it were, with the best attributes of all those races, completely by accident. I mean, what do you get if you mix all the colors together? Black! Both the absence and combination of all other colors and light. He's a part of every family in the world. And every one of them abandoned him. Those rings on his fingers represent each one of his past family members. Each from a different race. All coming together in him. This may also explain Oda's "prototype" name for him, "Everything D Teach". I do like your "Davy Jones Locker Human" idea, though. And the ties to Ketu are interesting.
But, is it possible we've been misunderstanding why Blackbeard can have multiple Devil Fruits this whole time? What if we're thinking about this from the wrong angle? What if it's not so much that Blackbeard's body can handle having multiple souls inside his body? What if instead he has some way to "erase" or "expel" those spirits from the Devil Fruits? What if he's basically "brainwashing" these Fruits so he just gets the power without the spirits inhabiting his body? Literally destroying the "dreams" of these Fruits just so he can get their power? The problem is, if that was the case, I don't see why he couldn't have way more than just 2 or 3. If he actually could do that, he could just have ALL the Fruits.
Although, this theory makes me wonder. Are there actually two "Wills of D" this entire time? The Will of Davy Jones and the Will of the Dawn? Two D's, combined, do make a whole circle, in a round about way.
Interesting theory. With Oda's unpredictability I can see him throwing this curveball.
Specially, majority of the readers right now are locked in thinking Blackbeard is is somehow Xebec's son or relative.
Your videos are always insightful and great to listen to in the background while doing work. Keep going I hope your channel grows much more
If your theory of Blackbeard taking souls is correct… then that means instead of eating both devil fruits, he took Thatch and whitebeard’s soul…
It will fit everything perfectly as real life BB original name was Edward Thatch.. which later changed to Edward Teach… and we have 3 characters of that name..
So the story symbolises real BB life as he symbolically killed Thatch name and took teach… plus real BB was killed the way WB was…
So now he is all 3 in 1 giving him 3 souls as older theories that he is 3 in 1 person
Been waiting for this BANGER
20:32 i had similar thoughts after watching the Onepiece movie : Heart of Gold !
The young girl was swallowed by a giant fish and unable to sleep inside it due to corpses inside it 😮
If BB were to die if he falls asleep, that drawing where he’s little and shedding a tear next to the view of the moon tells me that he is just a kid that is afraid -- it’s night time, he cannot sleep, and he is simply afraid, because he may die. As a child, I believe he would not be able to help but cry from the fear and confusion about this, and then just having to deal with something like that.. he probably felt so alone too. Damn…. Omg this makes me even more excited to see what’s to come in this series. Another great video! Keep up the great work, Dawn & Dusk!!!
I like how much research you've done on real life pirates/legends(especially the Joyboy bit). Subbed!
I live in the Caribbean Jamaica specifically.The elderly usually said that at Port Royal the pirates there was so wicked and savage that God sent a flood to the sink the Port.The Great Cleansing I would say😊
Wagwan rudeboi
Yes me bro
I basically predicted the that the One Piece world would sink in the Great Cleansing
Probably another banger of a video, keep it up :)
Every one piece fan , should watch this. Hope they see your videos. My fav character, the mysterious blackbeard
YT recommended this vid to me and glad I clicked it. This theory is so good and I thank YT for this. Good work Dawn & Dusk. Looking forward to more vid.
Stussy stole cloning technique from MADs, this is how she created Weevil (35 years old), who in fact is Whitebeard's clone.
That cloning technology is what created Blackbeard (38 years old, 2 years after Xebecs defeat) a clone of Xebec with lunarian and buccaneer blood. The clones dont look alike because it was the first and originaltechnology. And Stussy just replicated the process poorly explaining Weevils intelligence. The blood types don't mix, giving Blackbeard 3 personalities.
Have been theorizing that Blackbeard is carrying multiple wills, giving him the 3 personalities instead.
If possible, please do a video breaking down the lyrics of Bink's Sake! You have the best analysis of panels, kanji, katakana, and Oda's inspiration for OP!!!! For years I've been curious why Bink's Sake is written the way it is and I'm CONFIDENT you could unlock the secrets behind that song!!!
Chhaya Devi the goddess of shadows is usually described as the mother of Shani, the planet Saturn, and the god of karma and justice: a feared graha; goddess Tapti, the personification of river Tapti; goddess Vishti , the personification of Kala; and a son Savarni Manu, who is destined to be the next and eighth Manu (progenitor of mankind) - the ruler of the next Manvantara period.
Truth be told - wouldn’t have watched, but the miracle begun already from the 1st second. Thanks for the quality content!
I believe BB has davy jones locker, in fact I believe BB IS the locker. Unlike the normal devil fruit user he can use more than one because of the locker. It is the perfect weapon against the D fruits that require cooperations and teamwork whereas the locker wants to grab everything for itself.
Brilliant! :D i might add, Davy Jones locker was born on the day rocks died, the first soul he absorbed was Rocks, sentenced in god valley to the davy jones locker, since Rocks is known to have the strongest king haki known in the series, he woke up davy jones locker, who assimilated his personality and ambitions, second soul was whitebeard, the third he want's is shanks. The Holy trinity of entities (biblical tale (Jonah - jonelocker)), are the father the sun and the holy spirit. Well.. Rocks is the father, whitebeard is the holy spirit, and shanks is the sun. This pretty makes Shanks a certain death by blackbeard in the story. Luffy is gona have to save Rocks Whitebeard and shanks from the depts of davy jones locker.
I know this is old, but it’s more related to my comment on LunaPien, Pappag “Legends tend to grown TAILs and tales.”
These potentially long lost hero’s are being marked as Demons from history. Growing a Tail, becoming a demon. Then the lies from the actual evil come, Tales. I’m still really liking my Nekomata feeling 🤔
Definitely the BEST One Piece reviewer hands down!
As soon as you said Brook might be Tibetan Book of The Dead descendant, I got chills. What the hell!
There is another detail in the same chapter where luffy and teach meet that wasn’t included in the video if I’m not mistaken , when he was leaving, black beard took a sip from his drink and said this drink is very good . As if the person who was in the bar is not the one talking about dreams.
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In Manga Chapter 1055 on Site 9 (in our mangas) there is an picture who is interesting for the "water flute the world"-theory.
The old king is going upstairs with Nico and Law to the old Wano City. And then he explained the walls building around Wano in the past. There are three pictures. So if you look to the waterlevel outside Wano, it will rise over the years. And this must happend bevor the lost century. And its not cause of the rain or something else. So in the past, Wano knows about the rising waterlevel. And expected it will go higher an higher over the centuries.
SO i think its a proof, that the weapons who rise the level exists in the past and would used by the enemie. And i think its also a proof, that the weapon was used similar times bevor Wano closed the borders and finished building the wall.
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7:53 This makes a lot of sense considering that I heard a theory from a youtuber called "Polydeuces" that Blackbeard has different personalities based on the amount of teeth that he is missing at that point in time. The easiest one to remember is that when he is overconfident, he has 4 teeth missing. Sometimes he has 3 teeth missing, and he has a different personality for that one as well.
Also he has 3 guns and his jolly roger has 3 heads
Not sure if anyone remembers, but I only took note of it when I started watching the anime after catching up to the manga first. In Impel Down at the bottom most floor where it’s freezing, there was a brief shot of a frozen figure that had a similar silhouette as Rocks. They said in regards to it “he’s either dead or preserved for the future” and then they never reference it again (presumably for a later plot)
I mean there’s a good chance it’s not Rocks but I remember in the moment when I saw the episode that they seemed strikingly similar. Makes me wonder how it can be connected to the points made in this video
Ufff what a great video, thank you so much!
Amazing video, had to subscribe! Kurohige is one of my favorite characters, much love from Costa Rica 🖤
Honestly I had always imagined in my head that Davy Jones in one piece could have been the first pirate
But that's what I think
Yess finally!👏
Also Dawn, do you believe something major will happen in chapter 1111? I don’t know why but i‘m so excited about it
That numbers is zoro number..
@@del_thedark4154 I know…👀
@@kingj.4432 it may be the chapter where dragon makes his move if Oda decides to go that route in egghead
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Wow! Fantatic video. You mentioned that blackbeard has several souls, and I think that in the last photo his real personality was crying because it was weaker than the other souls in his body, and that real personality can wake up only at the nighttime. His real personality which is able to wake up only at nights (darkness) might be crying because the whitebeard pirates (white whale ship) accepted him in their crew (swallowed) and because all the crew members knew about the uniqueness of Blackbeard they always were suspicious and always looked at him (drilled with their eyes, just like eyes in the form of moon), especially at night time when the real personality awakens and gets "hated" bc of the another soul which acts at daytime. The real personality might be weaker than the soul in his body (rocks) and it can't get out at his own will. I think that this real personality is not bad, and just loves devil fruits (learns about them at nights). And hope that Luffy will eventually gift freedom to the real personality of Blackbeard.
thank you for this video! another great watch!! ❤
The will of D people is The dharmachakra or wheel of dharma is a widespread symbol used in Buddhism. The symbol also finds usage in Hinduism, particularly in places that underwent religious transformation, and in Jainism and in modern India.
I love how you always save your wildest reveal for the very end of the video lol
What about 夜愛の黎 ? Wouldn't that make a lot more sense?
夜愛 (Yo Na), wherein 夜 (Yo) is written as in Night and 愛 (Na) written as in Love/attracted/attached to
黎(Rei) as in Black/Dark/many
Possibly even Rei as in 令 rule/order/command
Something along the lines of Lover of the many dark nights, or Commander of the Night would be a lot more obvious than the whole weird ghost thing.
It could also be read as 詠凪の黎
詠凪 (Yo Na) wherein 詠 (Yo) is written as in Singing a poem 凪 (Na) as in Calm at Sea and 黎 as in Black/Dark/many.
That would evoke images of a a calm, dark sea - a sea where there is no Singing (Binks Sake). A sea of Darkness.
I'm not japanese and do not speak japanese. It's just what I found when looking at the kana and seeing if there's a fitting Kanji.
I'm shocked no one has mentioned that Vanderdeken may of originally been from the holyland & that the bloodline might be a Celestial Dragon bloodline & the original Vanderdeken may of been cursed by Imu. I honestly think that its heavily hinted that Imu or Joyboy is the one that cursed the Vanderdeken bloodline.
Good and interesting vid, this reminds me of Brooke his power referring to "souls", he was also a contrast vs Big Mom, looks to me he can be of use vs Blackbeard also, maybe being able to let the souls gathered by Black Beard escape their lockers, which may result in weakening Black Beard and removing those extra devilfruits he is able to use.
16:46 okay this is easily one of the craziest Easter eggs in all of one piece
Imagine if Oda told us what the D stood for all along😂😂😂😂 Monkey Davy Luffy, Gol Davi Roger, Jaguar Davi Saul, etc...
Been waiting for this one
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One thing that keeps going in my head about one piece , is joy boys relationship to lili. Was he a giant and did he take the human human fruit so he. Could be human for her. 😅😅😅😅
Ive never been a fan of cerberus/kraken theory, but it occurred to me what the marines stole from hachinose island that Xebec went to get back was probably that islands guardian deity fruit.
It was the same time the goverment aquired Alabasta and Wano's guardians.
And the island fruit making hachinose island look like a octopus, which i thought the skull resembled long ago.
An awesome vid as usual. Thank you🎉
19:10 the only problem they couldn't use observation Haki before time skip and even if they did, remember observation Haki user Enel couldn't sense the living people who were inside of the giant snake Nola, so if Luffy used his Nika Zoan power to smell something a different soul (since Luffy before time skip also found out the real Mr.3 in the forest by saying it was instinct) then that could make sense, but not sure how Zoro could sense that he probably just understood what Luffy meant.
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As an I'm dumbfounded by your explanation of Ketu. This is brilliant
-Davy Jones had a locker to collect all his treasures and Blackbeard has a "magic locker" to collect everything he absorbs. Would not have sense that BB's fruit was Davy Jones fruit? Such as Luffy, my guess is that their fruit (gomu and yami) had Nika and Davy Jones as past users, or maybe their dreams create those fruits. Davy Jones wanted to keep his locker aways from others creating a magic locker to contain his treasures and Nika wanted to move free becoming rubber. When they died, gomu and yomi fruit appeared and, when users awaken their power, the original "dream user" and past devil fruit users can appear. WHY? Because their souls are linked to the fruit.
-About Jonah been eaten by a whale, also reminds us about Pinnocchio and Geppetto, the obvious reference to Ussop. I also read that Davy Jones locker was modifed by nordic gods into "Rán", a goddess personification of the sea that is associated with a net, which uses to capture sea-men. Rán is the ruler of the realm of the dead at the bottom of the sea to which people who have drowned go. "Rán" comes from "theft, robbery" and has a curious line in a famous nordic book called "Poetic Edda":
"And Sigrun above, brave in battle,
protected them and their vessel;
the king's sea-beasts twisted powerfully,
out of Ran's hand toward Gnipalund" (also Helgi Hundingsbane)
Rán sent "king's sea-beasts" to capture Helgi but Sigrun helped them. Did Oda actually used nordic mythology to inspire him right? Davy family going for Shirahoshi that controls sea kings, "Davy Jones real locker" being the One Piece, BB being Rocks inherited will and searching Davy Jones dream (in form of devil fruit)... ODA AND HIS TEAM HAD A GALACTIC SIZE BRAIN.
Crazy theory the 5 elders and imu are highly advanced pacifista from 900 years ago obtained/gained control of and ultimately left behind by Nefertari lily and the old 20 kings to keep "peace" in the world of one piece. They never age and the last time they had to recharge using the mother flame was 200 years ago when the robot on egg head also received power and attacked the red line.
I paused this at two minutes and 34 seconds. I feel so vindicated I feel like you are about to say that the D stands for Davy Jones. Back in the day I wrote a theory on Oro Jackson for the same exact reason it’s the Occam’s razor of what the D could mean it’s a pirates manga, so obviously the stands for Davy Jones. He must’ve been like the king of the pirate Kingdom, or something, and Marshall d. teach is his descendants. Maybe all of the d clan are his descendants maybe he was the father king of the ancient kingdom, who knows?
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Maybe there are two D. clans.. The Dawn and Dusk clans.. All the attacks luffy is making now in egghead are Dawn related.. also in cliffhangers or important moments we "hear" DON.. that sounds just as Dawn.. I love all this theories, it enriches my experience so much, i wish i wasnt from a poorly managed country to support this channel monnetarely. 😢😢 Love your work!!
Great video! (as usual) 👏
Abrupt ending 😅
Davy Jones would make SO MUCH SENSE. more than the Cerebus fruit theories Ive seen. Well done!
Could be, but, his Jolly Roger has 3 full skulls and 4 leg bones, NOT 8.
That would account for the bones of cerberud and having more than 1 soul, while supporting the myth that cerberus had 1 head on guard, while the others slept.
The teeth missing and the time of day would reveal an actual guard shift schedule.
Just my thoughts.........while BB could still be the decendant of Davy Jones. Seems it is tying together the bottomless pit of Hell/Hades, with BB obsession with that Dark-Dark fruit.
The idea of Blackbeard being related to Davy Jones is an interesting thought. I don't think I can offer anything as thought provoking. But I will put a lot of my thoughts out there. I apologize in advance because I rambled a lot. Almost lilke I'M an anime villain.
There are things that have to be considered when discussing BB. All these pieces MUST fit together somehow. What are these pieces? The knowledge BB has of devil fruits (to have found the darkness one), relation to Xebec/archaeology, his strange body and lastly his relation to the moon. So what is my speculation?
First lets cover the picture of kid BB and why I think it can be used. We have gotten other kid pics of characters and they didn't show us anything. This is actually incorrect. Lets cover the Brooke one since its actually kinda obvious when you remember how Brooke was introduced. We see kid brooke is dirty and scrungy looking. When we meet Brooke he has the air of decorum with his speech but its a big joke he can be just as vulgar and without manners as Luffy is. And we ALL know how Luffy grew up. These similar upbringing is why the two get along in that sense. Then we have kid Kizaru. And this has come to fruition in the most recent Egghead arc. Not even in the sense of Kizaru being super smart or anything but explains his friendship with Vegapunk. We see how happy Kizaru is to learn and thus why he'd consider VP so important to him.
Clearly BB is crying and looking angry but more important is we have the moon in the background. At first I thought it was just meant to be BB being the moon to Luffy's sun but the thing is the moon isn't full in the picture. We know the fullness of the moon and the whole white hair thing is a prevalent theme in the story with the energy steroids and Minks. There is this theory that the minks are essentially calling upon the power of their ancestors. We even have Kuro way back in the East Blue seemingly having a connection the moon. Now I could be wrong as I haven't went back to confirm in the manga but in the anime when BB kills Thatch its all cloudy. Basically I am proposing that BB ISN'T carrying on someone's will nor passing his will onto others. Every Will of D member has done one of those things. This is why the moon is only a half moon.
Before I proceed I am going to propose what I consider highly unlikely but this thought crossed my mind. Could BB be part Lunarian? There a few things that fit into place if this is the case with the info we know. I think its possible that if any race would know about devil fruits it'd stand to reason to be the former gods right? I mean the current ones do so why not the ones before them? BB joined WB's crew to get the darkness fruit meaning he had his plan before he joined WB and no I don't think kid BB had some grand scheme back then. Merely he wanted to get the fruit to take the world.
Teach being half lunarian would also explain a few things. First how he was seemingly able to handle Ace's fire as well as he had. It would explain his unique body. As far as we know King is the ONLY Lunarian so I think that would qualify. It also would add another layer to when Teach was introduced. He was introduced in Jaya where he'd go on to say the sky island DID exist. This would also explain why BB is so weird as a member of the D clan. The only other D member of a different race than human was giants and that was Saul. Why would Oda include Saul? If we saw more giants have the D that would explain it more but we don't. It is JUST Saul's family that we know. But unlike Saul who comes from a society that worships the sun god BB IS a god. BB is both "a god" and an enemy of the gods. This is why BB is a D but doesn't smile. And why ultimately BB is his own worst enemy.
We need to know WHY BB would care about ancient history. And I think if he was part lunarian that would explain it. He could have wanted to learn all about the Lunarians. I mean we know Whitebeard and Big Mom heard of them so it is not impossible to gather that knowledge. The real question is how did he learn about Xebec? I have a thought. In a recent video Dak's Sake brought forth an idea for Shiki to end up playing a major role in the story. I don't really see Shiki being relevant in that way. But I CAN see Shiki being used to explain who Xebec was. This would explain where BB got the knowledge of Xebec since Shiki was on his crew. Here is a simple question. Why have the old hag from Wano change into a younger version of Shiki? I believe it is because THAT Shiki will be the same one who will give BB that knowledge. Why would Shiki give BB this knowledge? I d.on't really know. Mybest guess is some kind of scheme. But in truth I think the actual answer is kinda obvious. Consider when the God Valley incident happened. BB was like 2 when it happened. I am suggesting that Shiki was a bit more fresh from that event than Kaido and BM were so perhaps he just vented about Xebec or something.
With Kuma's backstory we know people of different races can have kids together yet the kid will take on the traits of one of the parents. This would be why BB doesn't really resemble the Lunarians. There is also something worth noting about BB. He has the darkness fruit which is the only other fruit in One Piece that can related to the theme of Space that isn't Luffy's own.
is that a bit of a stretch? I don't think so. Thanks to Egghead we know Kizaru's kid picture was relevant. It wasn't super direct but his love of studying as a kid ended up being important as him building a friendship with the world's most brilliant scientist. I am trying to interpret BB's picture in a similar way.
Do I think what i proposed is likely correct? Not even a little. But all these thoughts just came to me and I just had to blurt them out.
Edit: I totally forgot to cover this.
First here is a thought. I think as a community we keep trying to justify BB not sleeping but what if it is just a simple answer? Maybe that has NOTHING to do with his unique body. I mean we have to consider this is the same story that has characters be starving for an extended period of time and then just eat a buffet and are all okay. Not to mention the whole drinking milk thing. I think the actual reason BB could never sleep is NOT because of any biological reason but because he was always concerned with his own survival. Why a snow island? Well because the weather can be so extremely harsh it could lead to death. In a sense BB's goal to take the world might just be similar to Kuro's own motivation. To be able to live with peace of mind.
another thing i noticed, is that at the end of their conversation blackbeard said that the drinks taste good today, but when he was in the pub he disliked it , was it the same drink or different did he have a change of soul when he got out of the pub and luffy and zoro noticed the difference in his personality or something
I'm really surprised that you know about Rahu and Ketu since not many people know about jyotish however I think rather than Ketu, Blackbeard would be better represented by Rahu. Only because Rahu represents worldly desire and if I remember correctly ketu is believed to be responsible for the lunar eclipse while Rahu is known for his attempts at eating both the sun and the moon which is known as Rahu's revenge for being cut in two by Vishnu but it really could be either so its cool to here it mentioned.
Its also funny that Hanuman also tried to eat the sun but who knows maybe One Piece will parallel the Indian epic of the Ramayana if one of the characters most likely Vivi gets kidnapped by the Five Elder Planets or Imu which I think would add to what you were saying about the redline in your last video.
I have a feeling that blackbeard and imu are from the same bloodline, thats why he want to rule the world.
If blackbeard gets the Kraken fruit he would be like disney's davy jones
Amazing video, love your theories!
2:08 - _"Blackbeard could be the descendant of Davy Jones..."_
You think so? While I think Kurohige could has similar race with Kuma, the Bucanneer.
Remember that even Vegapunk still confused and amazed to witness how Kuma's physical body, soul, and mind keep intact even after his free will was revoked. There was a book released back in 1922 named *Blackbeard Bucanneer*
great theory as always.
I was waiting for this
The Blackbeard drawing is black white even in the couloured version of the manga because its not a scene in the manga its a drawing from an SBS section from Oda regarding a fans question. So him not being coloured is not a forshadow or whatever its just normal because whenever Oda draws characters as kids (and all other pictures for the matter)in the SBS section they are NEVER coloured
Implementing the area zero music from scarlet and violet slaps ngl
Thanks for the upload. Better late than never ❤
I wonder if Luffy vs Blackbeards destined fight could be tied to One pieces worlds version of Ragnarök. As in their Giants has an old tale where it could be the trigger for it.
Before it was revealed that Kuma's is a Buccaneer,i always speculated that Blackbeard might also be one,he is the only one with the same proportions and size.
I always thought Kuma was like that because he was experimented on but why BB has the same body as him but was never experimented on so how could he achieve such a "strange body" as Marco says.
I believe he's a Buccaneer or he's a mix between 2 races.
I can't help but think: Nika, being the Sun God, and Blackbeard holds that Dark Dark fruit, well, Black Holes usually swallow Light (Sun in this case). Also, I'm thinking that, Nika/Luffy will be swallowed up by BlackBeard's power and "disappear" for a time. It's similar to how the goddess, Amaterasu hid inside a cave and "emerged" afterwards.
As a native greek speeker, i have to inform you of litrally myriad of greek wordplays and mythology references in one piece. I might even get to point some of them out sometime.
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Hey Dawn & Dusk, can you clarify something for us? In the Chapter 1103 -- Page 08, Saturn says that Ginny was the eight spouse of a celestial dragon in some translations it includes "a fellow", meaning that the Gorousei is not the Father. In another translation, he said "eight spouse of the sacred land". Could Saturn be bonney's biological dad? The narrative would be so more intensive if that's the case.