"IT'S RIDICULOUS TO HAVE FANS ON THE BOARD!" Lord Sugar and Simon Jordan don't want fans on boards
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Coming from two men who were shining examples of how to run a football club 👏
Lol exactly. It’s a business all about money
Go and buy Carlos Kick a Ball😂. I was praying for Sugar to slag off Modern players & agents,and Terry Venables.
🤣🤣
Fans should be on the board. Then other fans will blame them.
Somehow I don't feel "Ur fired" inspired by Alan Sugar!
His simplistic,"state the obvious" explanations aren't very informative at all..
When he took over at Spurs,he made all of these promises to "Clean House" after Terry Venables was Coach and Spurs had lost a load of cash, bit it didn't take long before he was spouting a litany of excuses why he couldn't this or that!
so I don't know about you,but this interview didn't change my mind at all about him and how he views Football and his condescending view towards ur typical fan!
Many fans and certainly the "Season ticket" holders have good Jobs,work in all manner of fields and are not the clueless idiots preoccupied with leaking "roofs"he seems to think!.But the likes of him couldn't give a f##k about the people who purchase the Tickets& merchandise!
Not surprised to hear that Sugar has such contempt for good, honest football fans. Explains a lot and Brady is the same.
What is good honest football fans? Football fans are diverse from the pope to the genocidal maniac they all have teams they support, from the racist to the activist.
The notion that fans are vehemently the good guys or know what is right is pure fallacy, it's just feeding in too the mobs.
@@Akinwalesegun The average fan is honourable in that they want their club to be run well and don't want to bleed it for cash. Yes, some fans are hooligans. Not really central to my point at all. Just read "football fans" if you prefer.
Ain't they all he went down like a led balloon when he turned up at Tottenham didn't know anything about football he still doesn't and he never will
Don’t want fans anywhere near the board for one reason only. You don’t want to expose how much corruption is going on within our clubs. They know damn well that fans WILL NOT tolerate bureaucracy and corruption. Fans aren’t just there to ‘prop up’ these clubs with their hard earned cash.
I bet you none of these clubs will reduce gate prices
Unless you have the riches needed to be on the board the only voice you deserve is on the terrace. Why do fans think they run football clubs ? It's the fans demands for better players and wins that have put us in this horrendous situation with players wages. Fans dont care about anything but winning no matter what they say
@Deli Dan I'd rather my club Arsenal have the 50 plus rule than have Kroenke own the club.
Fans don't scream for owners to spend money or sack managers every day. They may say we are lacking a striker or defender or the manager can't take us any further. You will never see Fans outside owners office saying it's about time you spent 100 million to get into the Champions League.
Fans only want the club to run successful on and off the pitch!
Fans are for life! Owners are for profit!
50 plus now!
@@joeybill9472 aftv is an example of arsenal fans every week asking for the manager to get sacked or to buy a striker (world class strikers cost 100 million nowadays)
@@tg-lt4yn aftv aren't real Arsenal fans!
Sugar: 'Owners have respect for the fans'.
Sugar: 'You have American owners trying to run the club like the NFL'.
Mate Sugar is always going to back the owners he sold to. The bit that made me laugh is when he said Levy cares about the fans lol
Sugar tried to run THFC like Amstrad🤣
@@gregod806 yeah like the game kick off 2 LMAO😂😂
From two people that ran football clubs into the ground and then resigned Lmao
Without Fans you are Nothing...
They'll always be fans. I doubt if there's many clubs in the premier that ain't got a waiting list for season tickets
We are nothing without football
The the great deception sir...
“Can you fix the roof” 😂..fans have no power neither will they until they stump up shares and start fronting the money to buy players.
But they do front some money in ticket fees. Don't they?
Alan Sugar taking the side of greedy owners.
And Jordan seemed right at home beside him, predictably.
Alan Sugar would defo of been all over the ESL, you can just tell
i expected nothing less from LS
Actually, it was English clubs being banned from Europe for 5 years, and that ridiculous 3 foreigners rule, that hampered English teams back when Mr Sugar was in football. I can’t believe I’m more knowledgeable than this lot.
Levy cares about the fans when your season ticket comes up for renewal or when your in the club shop getting ripped off for next seasons shirt .He will squeeze every penny he can out of the Spurs fans and he's bloody good at it.
Sugar represents everything that is wrong with the game.
If it hadn’t been for Sugar Spurs would be in a different state now.
@@lewisgreen2957 better or worse?
By putting his own money up?? Instead of making comments he actually risked his own money in the hope of making a success of the club.
If you have enough money to buy a premier league club, you have enough money to have the deciding vote.
@Ronnie CR7 “At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.”
"Can't have fans on the board" says the former Spurs owner lol
Well Wimbledon Fc have shown that having fans on the board has worked from day 1.
They got back into the football league and built their own ground.
So you are wrong Alan! Fans deserve voting rights.
Well said
I agree i can't be in a board room as football fan just like 99,9% of fanbase aren't cause i don't know enough about whole business running and football aspects, but i'm sure there are qualified people in the fanbase who do. They can be repesentative from a established fanbase community you have like 1-3 on a board who looks own the board handling the club, future plans, direction, dealings, finances of the club which gives more openness and transparency on the handling of the club by the owner and boardroom members.
6:38 Trev immediately worried about City if there was a restriction on wages/transfers. As if he genuinely cares about the Bundesliga catching up 😂
Is this guy actually in touch with reality? Saying alll fans want is expensive players and better stadium conditions???? Fans want proper ownership that respect the club, the fans and the game.
Well well well, Jordan siding with the greedy chairman, who'd have thought?!!!
Sugar is a fucking business man, of course he doesn't want the fans to bring football back to it's more humble non-commercialised roots. But every fan has to realise sacrifices have to be made if we want football to be what it was.
Well, German clubs allow fans to vote or decide important matters for the club and it seems it's working really good for them
“Lord” lmfao!
😂
He's the lord of sugar
@@ziudra91 Lord of stinking of old man piss, talking shite and putting the booting in to the working class at any given opportunity
It’s annoying that we can’t see how many people have disliked this
Currently more dislikes than likes
463 dislikes
The look on Simon's face when Sir Alan mentions Carlos Kickaball 7:37 lol
Seams like yesterday when Lord Sweetie here said , “I felt as though I'd killed Bambi." This nan has no right to talk about Tottenham Hotspurs
Football clubs have always been run by owners whose number 1 priority was the amount of money the club can make them, going back to the 1800s. There are very rare examples of a genuine rich fan buying a football club, like Jack Walker at Blackburn, but professional football has always been about the money. It just so happens that there is more of it now than there used to be.
What a load of waffle from sugar
What did he say that was wrong?
@@jewulo He said English teams couldn't compete with the big boys in Europe before the PL started.. Liverpool won 4, Forest won 2, United and Villa both won 1 each too. Alan Sugar was a terrible owner.
@@jewulo That all fans on the board would want is new players, completely ignoring the fact of what our clubs just tried to do with the ESL, if all fans of the clubs who were joining the ESL wanted was better players they would have supported it and not fought it, he only sees things as money and having someone on the board that doesn't view everything through money is harmful to their pockets, hence his objection to it.
@@xR97x exactly, after Heysel and the five year European ban it was always going to be difficult for English clubs to immediately make a comeback
@@xR97x He also said Mourinho should go to Leyton Orient to prove that he's a world class manager. Absolute clown
It’s a football CLUB. Not a franchise. A club has members and the members get a vote. Germany has this down to a tee and embraces it with a few exceptions.
Mourinho was special in the way he won the fucking European Cup with PORTO!!!
The greatest deception the owners have created was making fans believe they are owners or it belongs to them
No, the greatest deception the owners created is when they convinced themselves that holding the majority of the shares somehow makes them the true owners.
@@a-walgames1350 ummm..emotions aside,in the business world that's how it works pal...
@@nicholasbaldwin4897 Yes but not in the real world as we just proved with the super league!
@@a-walgames1350 orrrr....you still think it's the fans that stopped it from happening....keep your seat belt on pal..bumps approaching👍
@@nicholasbaldwin4897 It was the fact that everyone from media to fans to bloody politicians were against it, but it all started from the fan reaction.
Sugar gives a good insight to the super riches mindset
so true
Works well in Germany.
It doesn't really. Leipzig worked their way around it having Red Bull employees as part if their 'fan group'
Nah Bayern dominates absolute that league. 0 top End competition
Sugar about as reliable and trustworthy as an Amstrad computer or stereo
Sugar didn't do his homework before coming on. Sugar's biggest gripe seems to be owners have to spend money.
i think sugar is a tight wad he would cry if he lost a pound
Susan is so out of touch. His examples of fans decided who to buy or put on a roof. WTF? How about ticket prices? How about game times that make it impossible to get to if you work.
Totally agree with him. Even in Bundesliga don’t put random fan in board
It doesn't work does it,it's all about success, without it, someone looks for someone to blame
I don't see why football clubs can't have fan representation at board meetings. Surely, it's important for the owners and fans to engage and work together for the best interests of the club.
Simple they will have fan reps at the board meeting s . The fans reps will leave the room and the real meeting will happen
The Lord looks like he’s had his mugshot taken on the thumbnail.
Alan, owners don't always have respect for fans. It's difficult to say they always respect the fan.
Waffling on. Just doesn’t want people near his non existent perch
Carlos Kickaball is a top top player
I respect Lord Alan. And I agree with him in many aspects here.
Football clubs need focus and direction.
Reading these comments make me realise that people really do think the world runs on autopilot! THERE ARE PRACTICAL sides to running a football club that simple emotion will not take care of.
Football clubs are business whether we the fans want to admit it or not. What they did was reprehensible but we have got to be realistic about the outcomes we are seeking or forever be disappointed and bitter
If owners have respect for fans they why did they go behind there back and create a ESL
Great interview 👏
i agree with lord sugar. Fans view of football clubs is unrealistic. it maybe made sense in the 50s but times have changed. its not the game of the working class anymore and thats okay.
Carlos kick a ball 🤣🤣🤣
Thumbs up for your name 🥳👍
@@hiv556 lol
Martin Edwards didn't sell to the Glazer's. Magnier and McManus did 💁🏼♂️. Not sure what Amstrad is waffling on about
The old rock of gibraltar horse scandal! All down to Ferguson really.
He made a good point, fans on the board what would they actually ask the club to do ? Reduce tickets, fix the toilet, sign a player they can’t afford ? Would fans run it like a business ? Or get emotionally involved and sign players which are way too expensive and may ruin the club financially
Alan Sugar ... telling the truth ...
Sugar talking about fixing roofs like it's the 90s. Fans want control now because of what these clubs tried to do.
My favourite bit was Alan Sugar talking about the leaky roof at White Heart Lane.
What a panel of absolute ring pieces.
The fans are the reason owners do what they do. The fans want better players which created a huge demand for better players and pushed the prices up on all players. Which then caused all the clubs to lose huge amounts of money on wages and fees. Most of the big clubs are surviving just barely staying afloat in a normal season.
Martin Edwards did not sell to the Glazers , get your facts right there were a number of shareholders before the Glazers got hold of the club.
Jose at Leyton Orient !!!
That’ll work 👍👍👍
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Just say it, you want some morning Woodsy
Odd how very few people complained about the owners when their teams were riding high. Arsenal and Man U in particular.
Lord Sugar.
Man. Thats one quality name
@Brandon Harker
Touché sir
Clubs belong to the fans not the chairman.
Without us fans they don't have a business or a football club.
The apprentice should have been canned years ago, its nothing but an ego trip for Sugar.
Money is just book keeping entries
A paragraph from the acclaimed book 'The Football man' by Arthur Hopcraft. - 'The running of the majority of professional football clubs remains firmly in the hands of amateurs: of directors who are often obsessed football fans but who have never known the game from where it really counts, on the field in the toughest competition. They look at football differently from the way the professionals see it. They are superfans, anxious for success because it makes them feel better, because it makes them socially enviable, because it nourishes their own ego and that of the community in which they are luminaries.
I love this player called Carlos Kickabout - I can remember it was Spurs who made one the first major singing when they got Jürgen Klinsmann on an astonishing fifteen grand a week - that blew apart the the top pay structures - Sugar suggests the special might struggle at Leyton Orient - You can only achieve major success only if you have colossal pots of money. However I am a Leyton Orient fan.
Alan sugar is spot on. Let's not be Karen's, the man's speaking pure, unfiltered truth.
Alan has a short memory... English clubs - Liverpool in particular- dominated Europe in the 70s and 80s. Heisel was the turning point; always going to be a long way back for English clubs after the ban.
Yes indeed and there was no mention of the "Bosman ruling"
I'm a Spurs fan and was never impressed with his Arrogance and "I'm like u,I come from the End," brand of BS!.
And he's no different to do so many "Nouveau Riche" people from that part of the world! and that is quite obvious when it translates to his views on the fans "The paying customer".. Obviously u can't have fans on the board making Executive decisions,but having them involved in some capacity to communicate what's happening with the club,their vision,etc wouldn't a be a bad thing!
Giving fans board power is like making a doctor in charge of his spouse or childs operation, fans run on emotion football club or any good business can be run based on emotion.
I.e if Man u fans had a say in their transfer they won't have bought cavani
even tho he was on a free transfer excited fans would balls it up and give him 500 thousand a game even tho he mid 30s
“At a football club, there’s a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.”
Alan Sugar underestimates the fans
West Ham owners have a feeling for the fans? Lord Sugar is taking the piss - the owners lied to the fans when selling off ground & moving us to Stratford soulless bowl. His mate Lady Brady called it best ever move to world class stadium - total balls & caused near riots. Giving supporters seat on board a smart move as you can head off problems before they happen & get feel of how reaction might go / take on board suggestions e.g. Cardiff with owner wanting to change kit colours or Hull with name as an example - you don't need to be business man for this, but you do need to be a fan of a club to get it.
The Leyton Orient comment was excellent absolutely blinding
It's ridiculous that you have Simon Jordan on here
Alan 'Lord' Sugar:
I'M BETTER THAN YOU
He is a bit of a ledge though. Remember when Klinsman left in 95' and his Carlos Kickaball interview?
Exeter City has more than 3000 fans controlling 53% of the voting shares.
Currently, City has one of the most profitable youth academies in the country.
feels like im watching characters from SNATCH
I've seen Carlos kick a ball he's fucking mint m8
Every premier league club needs a plumber and taxi driver on the board to deal with the big financial decisions... give me a break! The leaders of these fans groups see this narrative as a way to propel themselves onto a board without having the background. Jim loves stirring too, even if he knows its ridiculous
By "background" you mean "money".
@@cockoffgewgle4993 The majority of these successful people have earned their money by being shrewd and knowledgeable, having experience, thats why they make the big decisions. Putting someone on the board because they support a club is absolutely ridiculous. Wait until you see the power go to these honorary board members heads.
Jordan blowing Sugar
Sugar is calling it straight here,no bs. Fans need a reality check,the clubs do not belong to the fans,they have there place but it’s most certainly not in a boardroom. Sure all the big 6 stadiums plus maybe Goodison are purely tourist destinations,old trafford could have 90% tourist on match days the others likewise,Fans flying in & out,local supporters couldn’t get a ticket if they tried!!!
but his takes on Mourinho were absolutely ridiculous
Clubs are nothing without fans
and without the clubs what are we?
@@adammohamed.. aliens
@@whufc-essex I doubt even that.
@@adammohamed.. okay Adam x
Its should be a crime to have the likes of those two running football clubs.
Finally someone speak up the truth!
I didn't know the glazers are on UA-cam
How can you expect owners to stump up the cash for players etc. But not take any money out of the club and also let the fans have the voting rights in terms of shares? Who in their right mind would do that? If you don't like the way the club is being run, protest, stop buying tickets/merch and stop your sky subscription.
Lmao fans would run the clubs into the ground, it would basically be playing fantasy football in real life
Of course he’d say that he’s a business man all he cares about is money
Never liked Alan Sugar ,however 51% fan ownership is a pipedream and fans on the board is a PR exercise.
So why are Bayern and Barca doing it?
@@TheKh65 Historically, German teams were not-for-profit organisations run by members’ associations, and until 1998 private ownership of any kind was prohibited. The 50+1 rule, which was introduced that year, helps explain why debts and wages are under control and why ticket prices remain so low compared to other major leagues in Europe.
And Barca have a very differant structure where fans vote for the chairman . We a suggesting starting from a situation where privately owned or publicly listed companies worth billions of pounds are given or sold to fans.
@@stewartl1895 ok I get what you mean.
If Jose and conte can't motivate those players then no one can.
I Actually like Antonio Conte's idea that owners should come out once or twice a month to the media and have to answer questions on the running, vision and form of the club. It takes pressure off of the managers and the managers don't have to be the bad guy or try to explain decisions that they don't agree with or didn't make.
Why, aren’t they stakeholders?
Who invited Sid James?
If only he could say *fans are nothing without clubs...* ;-)
Sugar hasn't got a clue here, he's just got out of a time machine from the 90s.
Nope...you still in it...the illusion is to make you think the club belongs to you...that's how you spend your money
Sugar doesn't have a clue
‘Lord’ Sugar.
Extortionate ticket prices, no football on normal TV, nearly a hundred quid for a full kit! Sure football cares about it's fans when they are paying
Lord Sugar... 😂😂
Sure bayern munich have fans on board and they are more successful than most clubs in the world
Illusory correlation, mate.
Sugar what a hypocrite! He sold Spurs down the river for a wad of money! The THST is the answer! 60,0000 plus fans can't do any worse than FA in over 20 years!
Sugar has nothing to add to the discussion. His view is “fans just have to hope they get a benevolent owner”. That wishful thinking has led us precisely to where we are today. Of course there needs to be fan representation on boards. The only question is whether or on what issues they get a veto on board decisions. That’s the tricky part of this discussion.
thanks Alan
The way Sugar says Jose which would annoy Mourinho
He has a point about The spurs manager search
Of course fans shouldn't be on the board. You don't get on the board of Aldi if you shop there.