Dutch proposal to dam the North Sea
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Scientists from the Netherlands and Germany have proposed to construct two massive dams to protect some 25 million people from rising sea levels. The megaproject stretches between the United Kingdom, France, Norway, and would completely enclose the North Sea. So, is this plan viable or is it as overwhelming and unrealistic as it seems?
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Very interesting video as always Shirvan. Where did you hear about this project? I'm interested in reading more about it.
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Sounds like a fun project. Not even that hard to do tho👍 and your pronunciation of " afsluitdijk" was on point 😂👍
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There is never been a problem the Dutch didn’t think they couldn’t solve with a dam lol
Invasion by the germans? DAM
huge asteroid about to hit the Netherlands? DAM
alien invasion? DAMMMM
And if all else fails... blow up the damn dams and call it a day.
It's worked so far.
@@ezzyth8824 We would have stopped that German invasion if it wasn't for those darn flying machines!
Damn, that's right
We're gonna build a wall... And make the Sea pay for it
Whats Trump got to do with this LoL maybe he will gain Land for another resort and golf course LoL
Good one
@@pickledpigknuckles6945
It's a reference to when a Dutch comedian made a video poking fun at all the trumpisms and his retarded idea of 'American first and fuck the whole world'.
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we dont like the mexican wather
No they are going to make tax payers pay for it.
Netherlands: We want to build a giant sea wall
England: Where do we fit in?
Netherlands: You are the wall
England: Here are several hundred thermonuclear weapons that will demolish your wall.
The whole of the UK isn't just England you know... missed out Wales and Scotland on that land mass...
@@Thorocious The guy's called Glynn. I think he *might* know where Wales is, no? :)
@@Microtherion I was referring to the other guy, but okay.
@@Thorocious Lol. Like 90 per cent of stuff people say online, I don't suppose it matters anyway. Take it easy...
If there was a war the dam would be such an easy and devastating target
Doesn't even need to be a war. Something like that is doomed to fail at some point. The ensuing tidal wave flood would cause more damage in hours than slow sea rise would in decades.
@@bryancouillard2016 By that logic the netherlands would already not exist.
That could destroy the hole Europe and Asia tho
1. a war with who?
2. even if the dam would eventually fail, by the time it would fail the problem would have already been fixed
3. Adapting? did you go to school? adapting occured over thousands if not millions of years, sea levels will rise too fast to "adapt" to them
4. moving from the rising sea water is no solution, it will displace millions and hurt the economie more than you can imagine
@@Apple-tq3ve option B, the most likely give the world's governments: government leaves people to die or make the choice to move for themselves.
Eu: how will be stop the sea rise!?
Netherlands: we should take the Atlantic Ocean...AND PUSH IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!
push it over the edge!!
@@jimcarlson6157 yup......
Meanwhile in the rest of the world: 🌊
That is what we always do and did. Push the sea somewhere else to gain land or stay dry.
A lot off major rivers end in the Netherlands. So we get all the flood water from other countries. Still those countries get flooded but our feet stay dry thanks to the government and our amazing engineers. It is our way off life.
@@Bruintjebeer6 payed with taxes from stoners like me living just at the border lol.. but serious this plan is so wrong, killing the noordzee would be number 1 in selfish neoliberalism, we move inland or kill all life in this sea? it's proposal shows the lack of contact with reality, those planning this should smoke some every now and then, take mushrooms and make contact with nature..
1. Build the dams
2. Pump out the sea
3. RAISE DOGGERLAND!
Travis Atwood then terrorist attacked and millions drown
it would seriously make brexit look foolish if britain stops being an island.
i mean foolishER.
Roger Valor I mean. Coming to visit Britain on foot? Sure, no problem, we just pulled our 10000 years back ancestors’ trick, hi, hello there
I think this would be super interesting - it reminds me of the science fiction books like 2312 by Kim Stanley Robinson - you can find similar megaprojects described there in detail - not this one though - would be great to read a sci Fi story about this.
And perhaps somewhere in a small region in this Doggerland you could make something like a "Pleistocene Park"(more like a reserve actually) with living mammoths and other megafauna
As a marine biologist from Norway I can tell you that this will most likely never happen. So many species of animals would go extinct for the sake of some of the countries that are leading in climate change. Migrating fish on ocean currents would go extinct, and local sea life is depended on this nutrient influx, it will completely destroy the local environment, affecting weather patterns and could cause extreme draughts making the land next to completely uninhabitable for people or animals. I mean I am a big fan of Caspian report and I love your geopolitical breakdowns, but when it comes to ecology and environment there are some things that you completely overlook. Understandable though, we live on a planet that completely overlooks ecology and environment.
There would be ways around that. For example they could build channels for marine life to able to move through. The North Sea would remain salt water, so the idea this project would change the climate is absurd.
@@caezar55 lol, clearly you have no perspective on ocean currents, are you familiar with Norwegian fjords? Narrow points in those fjords already change the salinity of the water and nutrient influx, as well as species diversity, and that are only small masses of water. These channels need to be absolutely massive and placed at the right places for your proposal to work considering the huge bodies of water it contains, and then you are basically guessing that the Atlantic mackerel, bluefin tuna and other fish and large marine mammal species are going to adapt their migration patterns. Sounds like a massive ecological disaster.
Yup there is no way this would be done, the downsides are enormous, north western europe is densely populated only because of access to sea, without that sea there is no reason for people to be there. Protect coastal populations by destroying the logic of their existence? this is futile. Even the most reasonable version of this, a dam from dover to calais which leaves southern england and northern france (which are relatively high do not need protection from sea level rise) with a functional population still requires that insanely long dam across scotland to norway and I honestly dont believe that a dam can built that will endure the north sea storm surges we will see in the later half of this century.
[sarc on] Yes, yes: because animals are so much > than people. Typical W Euro degenerate thinking.
@@whatacruelchoice Nope. The important thing is access to waterway. Turning the North and Baltic seas into humongous freshwater lakes does not change ability for the maritime Euro nations to trade with each other. The only thing that will get affected is access to the Atlantic. But this can be ameliorated by the use of locks.
The amount of physical material needed just to build that would strain almost every other construction project in the world.
It would take vastly less to build a giant sea wall to specifically protect the Netherlands instead.
It would probably be easier to build a huge freeze ray and fire it at the antarctic to start building up the glaciers again.
Considering that the ice melts every year keeping it solid for even just a few weeks longer would be a massive boon to the wildlife already struggling (polar bears and penguins) and keep the white ice reflecting sunlight a little longer.
Not well known is that a very large amount of greenhouse gases are actually trapped in ice, and their melting is actually speeding up global warming in a continuous destructive cycle that only melts more ice.
So reversing this process could trap a lot of GH gases back in ice for a while.
@@mnomadvfx The main reason melted poles increase the temperature even more is because of the albedo effect.
Btw, it is impossible to cool down the poles. For things to cool down you need to transfer heat. You cant just take away heat. And where are you going to store those billions of joules of energy in heat? If you move it to the equator it will slowly spread around the world again. You would need to shoot it into space. This would take so much more money than just taking away greenhouse gasses and let earth cool down itself over time, which is still possible if countries act quick.
Also the north pole is pretty much doomed already so even if humans wanted, it would be impossible to save wildlife there.
And it is correct that it would be less work just to safe the Netherlands. But, what about a lot of other coastal cities in France, England, Denmark, Belgium, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Russia.
It is true however that it would hit the economie and ecology with the canal locks and fresh waters.
@@TristanPopken yeah, and the ice was melting without the help of humans. We are just out of an ice time so it would be weird if it wasnt melting.
Don't worry this is just an internet video something like this will never happen
No, look at A chart of the North Sea. Bitch is shallow
Ocean: Its over Netherlands
Netherlands: You didnt see my final form yet
cringe
Nah, its rather:
Ocean: I have the higher ground
Netherlands: you underestimate my powers
later:
Netherlands: What about rising CO2 levels?
Climate: It appears that in your industrial rage to build the dam you increased greenhouse gasses emissions accelearating the catastrophe.
Netherlands: NOOOOO!
I laughed harder then I should have at this.
Netherlands: im only using 1% of my power level
@@Zarrov this is clown. Sea level is falling in the Baltic due to glacier rebound
Europe: What can we do about rising sea levels?
Netherlands: Build a dam!
The North Sea: Well, I'll be damned!
*dammed
@@Polomac100 Search up the meaning of 'damned' and you will be able to get the joke.
Danny Boy terrible joke
Danny Boy funny
The problem is the sea levels our not rising according to sat data
"Budget of between 270bn and 550bn Dollars." That's almost as much as Ireland's new children's hospital! (so far)
how much it cost?
Everyone's laughing at them now, but no one's gonna be laughing when they colonize all of the sea
the environmental disaster this will cause will be the end of mankind.
there are thousands of species of fish that travel to and from the kattegat...
the dams would kill that... this would destroy fishing in the north sea, Skagerrak and Baltic sea...
food for 10's of millions of people....
it is the most moronic plan ever.
@@MrWeedWacky I probpose a fish gate
@@Praecantetia the size of a blue whale?
@@MrWeedWacky yes. If we can get a ship elevator the size of the evergiven then we can make a cate for fish and whales.
What that Dutch boys and stick his finger in
"Make Doggerland great again!"
I just made that comment - didn't copy you - I even spelt it differently
I was going to say "Make Doggerland Dry Again"
Thats exactly what i ws gonna comment about.
You would have to drain billions of liters of water from the North Sea and English channel just to see part of it get dry.
Hmm, yes, with every potential for bringing back the mosquito and malaria into the region (malaria used to be a problem in both the Somerset flats and Norfolk regions of the UK, so there's every reason to believe it ran rife throughout the swampy wetlands of former Doggerland). That'll make for a nice summer vacation spot.
Britain: leaves EU
Netherlands: *Builds dam around UK*
YA GOT A LOISANCE FOR THAT DAM
Like the powers at be will let happen 😂
puts a massive twist on the claims to have access to British waters.
Yep.. and Afro am immigrants build it lol
Britain: Phones 617 Squadron.
Neptune: I rule here
The dutch: hold my shitty Heineken sponsored dam
Heineken is not shitty
@@stephenmeier4658 im dutch and i think it is
@@stephenmeier4658 we Dutch call it piss beer cause it makes you pee a lot
If the worst will happen, netherlands people are welcome in germany.
Ah, the eternal Dutch War of Aggression against the Sea.
Doggerland shall be avenged
Hey, the sea started it! It's self defence!
The sea had it coming
*G E K O L O N I S E E R D*
nice
They could pump out the whole sea and reclaim doggerland.
Lets just wait for the next Ice age in a 100 thousand years to reduce sea levels
The dutch is doggerland central ...
Kinda arrogant. Pumping out all that water not only takes more time and money but also displaces the water. With such a mass of water being pumped out it'd do more harm globally.
@Jon Bjornssen 🤭
exacataly
The Dutch: *Sees open body of water*
The Dutch: “Not on my watch”
I'm more worried about how something like this would effect marine life. We've already overfished the seas and killed 80% of birds/insect populations.
Dude you need to stop reading depressive Greenpeace propaganda. We haven't killed 80% of birds and insects and fishing is not over fished it's over regulated. Did you really think 80 percent of all birds and insects have been destroyed?....There are tens of billions of birds and trillions of insects.
@Raven Moon isn't the issue it'll gradually become fresh water, not sea water over time?
@@tinkertailor7385 Ok but how many species have we as humans endangered or made extinct? Way too many my dude.
Well whats 20% more?
I love how its the dutch. They are so sick of water that they just want to get it as far away from their nation as possible
It's water. If dutch people gonna stop it with a giant wall, other countries of the world going to be flooded even more. Water has to go somewhere else, right?
Mostly it's gonna hit poor countries even more. Also Italy, US, so many places in Asia going to be affected by it. Again, just ignorant way of thinking.
There are view places in dessert regions like sahara or in Australia that are below the sea-level. To flood these will be benefitial for everyone and more efficient.
Johny Okinawa. Im so confused on what me joking about the dutch hating water has to do with this
@@fryreviews693 True, I didn't get the joke first. After reading second time, kinda funny yes.
They are tall enough.
I just would never support this stupid project. People actually getting payed for stupid ideas like this...
I (Dutch) love water. We just happen to live mostly below sea level. And I have no gills to speak off. Yet.
@@denisneubert8013worst off all, its from tax money :(
The EU: The sea is rising, what can we do?
Netherlands: *STARTS WATERBENDING*
EU: God! DAM IT
Dammed if u do dammed if u don't!
E.u are nothing but liers
Just dammed move out of Netherlands
This has the same energy of "the oceans are warming? just throw some ice into it" solution.
Wouldn't this increase the sea level around the rest of the world?
Most definitely
Of this happens then just to stop the sea levels in Europe the entire world's sea levels will rise so this is a pretty bad solution to the problem
@Grim FPV Plus, one terrorist attack and you've got a catastrophe on your hands.
@Grim FPV considering how toxic the rest of the ocean gets, that place might be the safest area left for fish.
@Grim FPV "Norway would become like Alaska." - That's where global warming comes in, Norway will be more like Malibu.
What did the fish say when it hit the wall? Damn.
HAHAAHHAHA no way
🍺😂💨
killer!
That's what happens when you go in head first
@@davidquezada50 🍺😂💨
North Sea: Exists
Nederland: *G E K O L O N I S E E R D*
Mr BigCookie damm right
Mr BigCookie I N G E P O L D E R D
would probably have a butterfly effect on wildlife and fuck everything up
yeah climate change is enough, we don't need to treat the whole baltic sea like a petri dish. It would no doubt have horrific consequences for the health of the ocean and everything that lives in it. I say let the humans move. They made it hot, they can move.
building a huge ass concrete wall and sticking it into the ocean is no comparison to a random butterfly flapping its wings, butterfly effect would be you peeing into the ocean having a comparable effect, and its nonsense
First step, dam the North sea. Second step, drain it and turn it into a parking lot.
The dutch are just playing minecraft at this point
Oh how Europe could N.E.E.D. the Dutch minecrafting skills.
We have an old history playing minecraft
Anyway. But the problem of the warm gulf stream blocked from the English Channel and the North Sea is kept out completely.
New game: Damcraft
Europe: "What should we do?"
Dutch: "Dam it!"
funny
God dam what a good joke
If there was a long undefended concrete wall holding back an additional 2m of sea level from flooding Western European coastlines, cue a single Russian submarine and a volley of torpedoes.
100%
This dam would also be protecting St Petersburg... Russias only western port.
@@joestevenson5568 true. Though for significantly less money, and much faster, Russia could build it's own wall only protecting St. Petersburg.
Not seriously saying any of this would happen, just pointing out how a wall would become another vulnerable piece of infrastructure that might be used in the international chess-game.
"how do we stop climate change" "Lets change the climate ourselves instead!"
*facepalm*
If only we were that powerful.
We’re already changing the climate ourselves, so trying to fix it ourselves wouldn’t be such a crazy idea.
@@alamunez like this would be moronic. there are species of whale and fish that migrate into the North Sea and Baltic sea to spawn... This would kill them off, also completely destroying the fishery of Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Estonia, Germany.
leaving them with a lot less food...
This is literally the worst idea man has ever had!
@@MrWeedWacky I’m not saying this is the best idea, or even a feasible one. I’m just pointing out that we’re already changing the climate ourselves, because your comment seemed to suggest we weren’t already doing that.
@@MrWeedWacky have you heard about the depletion of the oceans? what makes you think man will still be fishing in thirty years time? or that there will still be whale and fish migrating anywhere? This idea might actually save marine fauna by making people more aware of how necessary it actually is. By trying to solve one problem (water rising), perhaps other problems (ocean depletion) will be addressed too. That's often how things work out. Personally, I think land loss and people migration is worse than shipping and fishing problems. It's time to stop thinking about everything in terms of money and start thinking in terms of planet (we only have the one) and people. The idea of such a huge dam hopefully will get people in power to re-think and re-prioritise some stuff...
The world: This project would lead to complete and utter damnation
The Dutch: what’s so wrong with being a dam nation?
damn ation
...not if you're a civil engineer!
The UK- Finally Brexit!
Netherlands- How about you literally become part of Europe?
UK- Dam Busters.
Defenstrator they would need uk permission consdiering we own the channel and it would fuck the uk, that water has to go somewhere
@@sausagejockyGaming send the water to Landon
@@ahamedihamiyun5927 Nah, send it to Istanbul. the other side of Europe/Asia minor.
@Konceited Kai could easily close it, or collapse it.
No mention of the interrupted gulf stream... Wouldn't blocking warm water from the Caribbean be disastrous for the temperate climate of western Europe?
These plans were already prposed by dr ir Johan van Veen before 1940. He warned and delivered the Delta works 3 days before the flooding of 1953 that killed 1800 people. He was renowned for his futuristic plans around the world, but neglected in his own country. This North Sea plan was also adviced by him.
"... one of the largest civil engineering projects in the world" -- how about "far and away the largest civil engineering project in the world"?
Yea I’m left wondering what is the largest civil engineering project if this one wouldn’t be?
@@Danquebec01 it's fairly obvious actually
Yeah, I thought about how the mega damns in China compare, but do those even come close to the scale of this project?
stb357 damn
@@stb357 Are you referring to the Three Gorges Dam? I don’t consider it as coming close.
Dutch: I have a great idea.
Marine life in the Atlantic Ocean: WTF
Americans coming to land on French beaches: WTF
nice, laugh hard
Discussion is ongoing to irrigate the saraha desert with sea water if I remember correctly. Growing algae that absorb carbon in a place like the sahara would be viable.
Breaking news! Dutch engineers hatch plan to pump extra unwanted water from the North Sea to the Sahara. The affluence of incohol is suspected.
Can you imagine the impact when this dam failed?
The Dutch and German scientists need to lay off the cocaine.
The Dutch need to lay off the weed.
Nah the drugs are just for the tourists, we don't need drugs to be crazy.
Zachary Durocher, also americans.
Lmao
Agreed way to much Boss LMFAO
Sea: *exists*
Netherlands: “It’s free real estate”
Actually it's very much the other way around when you realize how much the Netherlands gets flooded
NthSeaExit!
For Gods' sake! don't tell the Chinese that, they'll claim all the oceans!
@@johnzuijdveld9585 i know the love of Dutchmen for pressing ( Total Football), but u are a bit obsessed, right?
I wouldn't exactly say free, they pay for a lot for it.
Perhaps the best solution would be to have the northern dam running between northern Denmark and northern England. This would avoid the deep Norwegian Trench and the countries around the northern part of the North Sea are less vulnerable to rising sea levels compared to the southern part.
Exactly right, the sea levels are only around 25m deep along parts of that route. Would also solve the problem of Russian subs not being able to get out of Baltic Sea.
If we start messing with tides and currents we could coures more harm than good as they are all interlinked in some way.
Mess with currents and tides like the Netherlands has already done since the 12th century lol? There are good arguments against it but vague fears are not it
@@tvdsje yes on a small scale not with an entire sea etc
I think the reasons for the proposal does need to be addressed, got any ideas since you believe this one might cause harm. There are thousands if not millions living in areas that will be threatened by the rising sea levels
@@Hozay1234 not without more data no but one thing is not to build homes on a flood plain or where flooding is likely to occur thats just common sense.
@@l1verpool1000 Common sense and Humans don't get along in my experience of life. I agree, but that isn't going to help the millions people who are in these places through no fault of their own for various reasons, and there is a good chance that a lot of those people would have a hard if not impossible time being relocated, should they all just die? Very likely that the sea levels will rise no matter what happens, so we do need ideas on how to tackle such massive issues.
I first thought they would drain it and reclaim doggerland
Probably a better idea really, because the enclosure would become a slowly evaporating pool of Brine otherwise.
Would be amazing for archeology!
Yeah can you imagine the population fills up the area, and natural disasters or terrorism breaches the dam and kills 1 billion people whose homes are now 200m under water?
@@DaDunge i think all the rivers flowing into the northern sea would make overflow more of a risk then it evaporating draining the sea would also be catastrophic for the fishing industry and for shipping routes
@@failedtoloadpleasetryagain1862 The last part is something you'd get with the dammed "lake" too. All the fish in the lake would die, and the locks in the dams would no where near be able to handle the amount of traffic needed to keep the coastal ports alive.
England: We want Brexit!
EU: Sure no problem.....
Netherlands: Um...by the way.... just one more thing....
One more thing the United States won't let the Netherlands do.
Funny but like the EU has the funds to pay for this and they'd want the UK to pay for most of it...
@@TheRingoism Trump just called, he said the Mexicans will pay for this wall too
@@TheRingoism Germany is richer than UK and France is equivalent, add the other members in aswell.
Plus UK companies are moving to the EU.
EU isn't the one who is going to have funding problems.
"Sure, no problem" is not exactly how I would describe the past few years in regards to EU response to Brexit. But okay xD
I think something like this was proposed across the strait of Gibraltar before ww2 but it was concluded that it would take more than all of the concrete in the entire world to complete
In 1935.... yes... but we now make a lot more concrete.
Dutch Priminister : *We're going to build a wall and make the fish pay for it.*
North Sea: I'll be damned if the Dutch go thru with this project
View Doggerland, BBC, somewhere here on UA-cam.. The Dutch are proposing to return to the conditions of 10,000 years before the present.
Dammed*
We will make it the North Lake😂😂
No, not damned, dammed 😄
the north sea... and all the countries sharing coastline with the baltic...
Its gonna be a beautiful dam, and belgium will pay for it!
Ah go on......let the Mexicans pay. They are paying for absolutely everything.
Here's a lol from Belgium :p
123Dunebuggy and so they should
Usually, Germany pays for everything.
France surrenders to the sea anyway so why not start the dam in south netherlands or as some people call it belgium
When I left school in the eighties we were told if we didn't do something about climate change soon London would be under water by the year 2000. We better get a wiggle on. 😂😂😂
How many cubic meter of water do we need ro rise the sae level 30 cm?
And how much ice is there on the planet? I don't see a problem
@@rensfassbender5585 shouldve said "I dont 'sea' a problem"
I remember that campaign in London in the 1980s. They were handing out maps in the underground showing contour line at the 30 metre sea level rise extent or some such thing. It annoyed me at the time because there was no science involved and it flushed out a whole lot of early climate change deniers who could then point and say “look at these idiots”. Anyone can draw a line on a map. I think it did more harm than good.
If we only stopped using cars and fossil fuels 10,000 years ago this would not be a problem.
Afsluitdijk: *exists*
Netherlands: this isn't even my final form
i seriously thought this was just gibberish mashing on keyboard but it actually is a *language*
@@Qatrebew hey all the other languages took the normal sounding words! you can't blame us for being stuck with this smh
I thought I was having a stroke reading it but then I remembered it’s just dutch.
Hey don’t forget *arbeidsongeschiktheidsverzekeringsmaatschappij*
At lest it ain’t welsh
England
Pro : Probably double in size,
Salt buissness
Cons : Germany can now reach british mainland.
invasion wise impossible
I might have misunderstood. But I don't think that the idea is to drain the Nordic and Baltic Sea completely. That would probably be worse than the rising sea level...
Just keep their sea levels from rising the same way the Atlantic's will do.
"The British campaign to remain surrounded by sea"
A.K.A. WWII insurance policy.
Dambusters 2
@@CancerGaming56 😂😂😂
Never going to happen, the material required for this type of project would mean putting all other construction projects on hold for decades. The Dam would need to be over 60ft above sea level for a 100 year storm, and probably would not be finished before sea levels rise anyway. And not to forget building this in winter in the North Sea would probably be impossible.
2 words:
"tactical"
"vulnerability"
You make it sound all humans are psychopaths just waiting for any opportunity to kill millions of people. No country would do that unless they felt completely justified and the countries at risk would obviously not want to do anything to cause that. Thus it would be very unlikely.
It's like saying that pregnant women are vulnerable. Yes, and that's why people don't go around beating up pregnant women and why pregnant women don't go around looking for a fight.
The Dutch are once again looking to escalate their ongoing war against the sea
😆
And again,...with success. Mark my words!
The sea drew first blood, not us!
SEAA!!! Raaaarrrgghhh!!!
This sounds like an ecological nightmare to be honest.
Especially for us humans living in the netherlands.
It's ecological only in the sense of how it effects ecology. The reasons have nothing to do with climate however. The sea is rising because the land is sinking. It has been sinking for thousands of years, with no human CO2 emissions. Doggerland did not sink because of CO2.
@@ZardexM You should go back to school. Lemme break it down, more CO2 in atmosphere --> more greenhouse gasses in air --> more warmth gets trapped --> temperature rises --> water expands --> sealevels rise.
Climate change does make a difference...
@@coenvdb6032 Funny how your climate change makes the sea-level go down on the coast of Finland and rise on the coast of England while the geological process of tilting earth suddenly no longer applies.
@@coenvdb6032 And before you blame civilized humanity and fossil fuels for CO2, believing any climate accord can solve anything, if you believe co2 is causing climate change, ask africans to stop breeding and eliminate the world of termite nests... both would reduce production of CO2 more then ending fossil fuel consumption.
This proposal was never intended to be a serious one. Just an excercise in trying to explore what could be done if all else fails. Building a dam like this would be a last resort as it would be an ecological, economic and geopolotical nightmare.
For one there's a good chance that the British will never approve the plan, because the rise in sea level actually doesn't threaten their coasts as much. But moreover their entire national identiy and pride are predicated upon this fragile truth that they are an island. Which this project would effectively put an end to.
Then there's the matter of this dam completely locking in the Russian Baltic fleet, which is something they will not stand for. So even if it was built, it would probably be a constant threat of Russian agression.
Then ofcourse there's the matter of severly limiting or even completely locking off trade with Europe's 2 largest ports, Rotterdam and Antwerp. Both of which continue to be a vital cornerstone of the economy for the entire continent.
I won't even get started on the ecological impacts because they are to numerous, and ints not really my expertise.
Oh and there's the little issue of cost. Estimated costs of constructing the dam are somewhere between 100 and 150 TRILLION dollars. Not adjusted for inflation. Or in layman's terms. Nearly double the world GDP. If you want to know why ask any structural engineer what it takes to literally counter the force of an ocean.
So yeah... no.
It is far cheaper, an simpler even to just make sure we don't get a further rise in temperature on this planet.
Nonsensical proposal, even by Dutch standards! Globally cutting CO2 emissions is much cheaper and will protect other coastal countries all around the world as well!
*Dutch dam effectively cutting off St. Petersburg*
NATO: Here’s a billion dollars
Petersburg is already cut off by Kattegatt.
NATO is not anti-russia. But we must protect against russian aggression.
@@lexethonor294 You mean there is no USA aggression?
@@HarrySmith-hr2iv USA didn.t invade europe and installed dictatorships.
We did install democracies though
The Netherlands: We're gonna build a wall and the fishes will pay for it
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Kojo Tutu agreed
and we’ll succeed like trump is doing right now.
scheldedam can also the fish let free to swim, duch are smart you know
Oh, as the salinity of the water changes, the fish will pay.
They refused the servern River dam on environmental grounds this stands no chance with the green woke lobby they'll happily see people washed out.
CON spotted, you know orange ape actually lost right? Also, the Green are using this proposal to show idiotic moronic conservative legislators around the world to actually start doing something NOW, or face the consequences later on WELL KNOWING everyone will be aware they actually knew but CHOOSE to protect thier precious big companies and profits and just moved the burden of environmental cost down a generation or two.
I really can't tell if this proposal is supposed to be serious. It sounds to me like something out of a 1960s or 1970s science fiction novel.
the distance between england and scandanavia is about 500km. The ocean is about 100m deep there, so when we would built a dam there, then we would also put a highway on it and a railroad, so let's say 100 meters wide on top and 20m above the ocean level. Then that would take about 12 billion tons of sand, and that's about 12 times
the amount of what it took to built The Palm Jumeirah. So it's possible to built a dam, specialy when there are alot of countries that are involved in it, so money can't be the problem.
@@3DPeter it will never happen get over it
Even if the Netherlands sinks, they’ll just built underwater cities
Probably cheaper
So just like rapture just without the crazy adam adict splicers, child experimented little sisters, diving suit wearing big daddy's and big sisters.
That Will Never Happend
@@terraindomitus3758 Have you tried walking around Amsterdam city centre at night you may be surprised.
@@jackreynolds9720 no i haven't but my comment is just refrencing bioshock.
~$200 billion is not very expensive when you consider projects like the joint strike fighter.
Or the GDP of the countries involved. It's be a good amount, but doing it in stages would stagger the costs rather noticeably.
Unfortunately once the dam is built they arent able to sell it
You're kidding yourself if you think this would only cost 200 billion
Lmao, £200bn wouldn't get it even a 10th completed.
@@stevshaboba7476 The ISS cost $150 billion (2010 USD). Thats around $177 billion today. So govts have shelled out loads of money in the past.
Yeah the whole dam project will almost certainly overrun 200 billion, but the point is it's not completely unfeasible when compared to the cost of not doing it.
If the Netherlands wants to save its land then the Dutch government should plant as many native trees in their country as possible. The trees take water from the land and hold the land firmly by their roots. There is no better natural way than mangroves to save the land lost in the sea, and the Netherlands will have to import sand from Arab countries. At least one thousand tons of sand should be imported to the Netherlands every year in large ships and coconut trees should be planted on the shores of the Netherlands.
(Suggestion from Pakistan)
Coconut trees do not grow in the Netherlands.
That's not a solution, it's better dreds sand from the sea bottom, so you catch 2 fly in one time. 😅
It's all baloney. The sea level rise is currently between 1.2 and 1.8 mm/yr, based on gauges and corrected for land movements. No statistically significant acceleration has been onserved. Assuming the rise rate won't slow down (it's been the same for well over a century) we can expect between 12 and 18 cm per century. This is nothing, as natural tides and swells are way more. There simply won't be any need for the dams talked about in this video. Not to mention environmental issues, obstruction of shipping and military activities the dams would create.
so much for the UK trying to achieve its splendid isolation. now you’ll have these lovely tulip fanatics walking to Dover
biking* to dover
shit, they figured our plan to keep England in the EU by making it landlocked into Europe.
@@joeribaars5481 I say, would either of you chaps fancy a swim in the baltic pond ?
I like swimming, but maybe wait till the water is warmer.
Independence, not isolation.
greta thunberg: stop climate change!
netherlands and germany: We're gonna build a wall, it's gonna be a big beautiful wall.
😂 same thought almost.
Why do something about nefarious international trade agreements that cause poverty and migration when you can just build a wall?
Why do something about rising sea levels as a result of anthropogenic global warming when you can build a wall?
Are our species doomed?
And we gonna make the British pay for it shttttt
How DARE you!!!
And it will be ‘orange’, as the Dutch like that
I live in the netherlands. I have never heard of this before. It sounds like a fake story to me.
One big simple trouble about reclaiming or damming sea on a large scale is the harder you try to drive sea away, the less space you leave seawater with, the higher sea level will come to be. After all, the volume of sea water is constant, the height of sea water will have to rise, if it is given a smaller area to take up.
There would be parts of the unfinished dam that the sea would pound for 20 years before the whole thing is complete. They would immediately have to go back and start repairing sections of it. It would be a never-ending project. There would probably need to be some lighting on it as well, so a ship lost in a storm doesn't go crashing into it. I do think the solution to the shipping lanes could be canals dug through the UK, France, and Norway similar to the Suez canal. That would also keep the North Sea from losing saltwater. It wouldn't help the effect on tides or sea life though.
Dutch: Close it!
Europe: Why?
Dutch: _You wouldn't get it_
Whatever the Dutch were smoking to make this project, i want some of that
Haha this is realy fake🤣
The Dutch : lol u guys in survival.. *just use world edit*
//set stone
The UK government would rather people moved inland than fund a penny to fight a losing battle with the sea
You think losing battles should be fought?
Wouldn’t somebody just blow it up? I feel like leaving that out as a potential danger is foolish.
Eu: “eh fuck Ireland”
BUTTT they gotta fork over some dough
Mwaniki Mwaniki Latvia and Ukraine must be jealous
justin allen “0.1 of gdp generates by countries it will affect” Ireland isn’t bothered by this
hahahahhahah i was just thinking that !!
@Mwaniki Mwaniki Your comment makes no sense.
I wonder how Russia would feel getting boxed into the Baltic...
Imagine lowering the sea level of the north sea by 1 meter and then one dam breaks and the resulting tsunami destoys not only the costalregion but probably will penetrate deep in the land aswell lol. Btw 1 meter lowering would be equal to 570.000.000.000.000 Liter of Water. Imagine that much water returning in the northsea all at once lol
Yep, this idea is fucking dumb.
That wouldn’t be a tsunami. It’s 1m high, and comparable to tidal ranges seen across the North Sea. I’m not saying it isn’t a dumb idea, but a hole in the dam where one side is 1m higher than the other will not be as immediately devastating as you imagine. It will take a long time for enough water to flow through to increase the height. Certainly no massive waves.
You know when you go get a glass of water does your house instantly flood becuase that water is connected to a huge basin of water which is trying to escape ?
@@oliverbutterfield9844 Even if the dam doesn't break the ecological and climate consequences should not to be underestimate lol.
cutting of such a hughe water mass from the global see will probably harm migrating sea creatures.
Also what would happen with the warming effect the flowing water has?
As I understand it the gulfstream is warming up europe in the winter so we don't have -40°C in the winter. What would happen to that?
What about ships? Who has the legal force to collect taxes from ships passing over the dams, how would they do that?
This was my first thought as well. If it works (excluding all of the environmental and economical problems) the damage caused by that much water would be staggering. I am not sure how much I would trust that dam.
Ah yes, It has to be the Dutch
Wanna build wall? Ask a Dutch
Wanna build a sea wall? Ask a Dutch
Wanna build a space wall? Ask a Dutch
Yes, it has to be Dutch
Contract the Dutch to build Dyson Sphere :D or Ringworld
If Trump hired Dutch workers, the US-Mexico border wall would be complete in less than a year, lol
@@leonardoschiavelli6478 It's not an option. Period!
Trump should have asked us to build the Mexican wall:p
Wanna wear comfortable shoes? Don't ask a Dutch.
Netherlands : yes, no more flooding here.
Venice : dam.
Lmao
Netherlands: How did you know?
Well then
Can we simply dump the sea water in space ?
It will save the earth from flooding.
I love how our response to our own screw ups is doubling down on those screw ups. Like, okay we messed up the environment so what do we do about it? Well, I guess we make the king of all dams, creating a massive fresh water lake which will transform the ecology to the point where the results aren't really known. Good luck to us. LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOY JENNNNNNNNNKINS!
Britain: leaves EU to keep its fishing deposits to itself
EU: Builds a megaproject which ultimately kills all the fish
Britain: Visible Fustration
The world: Huge Plan!!! Takes years!
The Netherlands: We need more coffee! And 30 minutes.....
nobody:
The Dutch: I N G E P O L D E R D
I read this with the *thickest* Dutch accent I could even think of
Goed bezugg 👍🏻
Zeg makker
Spannend!!
Lekker bezig
Out of their minds to think they could manage such a construction... It's far to costly for the environment. Animal migration and who knows how many species would be destroyed.
One failure and you'll have a biblical level flooding of the coastal cities.
It's better to not be selfish, relocating the cities is more cost effective in the long run.
the cost will probably triple. it's cheaper to live on boats or floating homes.
Even more cheaper to just lower emissions.
Did he just say the estimate for construction is 20 years? It took 16 years to build a 10 km subway line in Amsterdam.
however they also just needed about six years for the afsluitdijk which is 32 km long and that was from 1927 to 1933 so now we have far better equipment.
@@larsebbers5214 sure better equipment but worse management tighter budgets more corruption and no one works any day there is a single drop of rain and it takes 3 guys to watch one guy while 4 others guys are grabbing lunch and 6 six other guys are stuffing around in a office doing paperwork just to do one construction job nothing gets done that fast anymore
Coincidentally this dam is not being build in Amsterdam
@@jodypelupessy2142 but you only win by default is the problem its slow everywhere
XDbored1 We literally replace entire overpasses in a day. Nothing in the Netherlands is slow when it comes to infrastructure aside from Groningen Ringweg ):
Ocean: *I shall rise*
Dutch: We dont do that here
me, a dutchie: wellllllll *hits blunt*
And then the duch said: there shall be land, and thus the netherlands rose from the seas
Sapt Sagn the Dutch: you shall not pass!
Jajaja the best comment
So for 30 years they have said the sea levels would rise but they still have not changed and that’s from Australia’s top CSIRO science agency. 🤣
The first problem is getting governments to agree on if this should go ahead and who pays. But as Cern has demonstrated countries can work together.
You can bet the UK would be like, "over my dead body".
Unless Scotland and northern Ireland leave the UK and join the EU
@@definitelydaniel69420 Cornwall
@Henrique There's no way Britain would completely cut off its major ports from the rest of the world just for brownie points with the EU. It's not going to happen.
Dannyh53 Except they literally can’t? Nor do they want to... idiotic comment
Why not, because the English won't allow it?
Portugal: Are you threatening me, Master Trader?
Netherlands: The Sea will decide your fate.
Portugal: *I AM THE SEA*
Netherlands: -dams the North Sea* Not. Yet.
Highly underrated comment, bravo.
*Dutch build the dam: we have the highground
until portugals deal for their sea concessions in the atlantic islands comes through and they are in control of a huge part of the atlantic and the entrance to the mediterranean. maybe start building artificial islands in hte new territory that start to form communities around the new resource gathering zones from the ocean
@@iguana6746 Shhhiu... Portugal will do that but it is a secret... :D We will make artificial islands all over the atlantic and after a bridge connecting all of them, then we can cross the atlantic until New York... Thats the idea hahah :D
@@Joel33736 Only possible with EU & Dutch money,
Even the title to this vid made me piss myself laughing. . . "A large body of water? *Sexual Dutch noises*. . . Can we. . . Can we dam it? You MUST let us dam it. . . Oh god we must dam it!"
This would be the most amazing man made thing on earth if this ever happened
U have to consider that the yearly USA military Budget is more expensive than this dam
@Sjoerd Hartman The Debt has literally nothing to with my statement, All im saying is that the money the USA is using for military could be used in potentially meaningful other places, maybe even reducing the debt. Interesting how a random person on the internet can offend a presumably non american by talking vaguely about american finances he knows nothing more but a google search about.
@@dufitt8120 the budget protects the seas among other things, it cant just be spent elsewhere with no repercussions
@Sjoerd Hartman
Nah, that was all on you. It wasn't miscommunication, it was misinterpreting. (And a quite passive-aggressive response)
Damn
@@dufitt8120 Think of this, defence spending accounts for 10% of US spending.
Meanwhile, SS, medicare, Medicaid account for over 60%
Countries of the world: "Climate change is killing us!"
Netherlands: "Ahem! Allow me to introduce myself"
Well. If richer countries abandoned morality their response could simply be: " Its not really gonna be our problem, we're just gonna deal with the consequences whilst poor countries can go fuck themselves."
@J Dude. Can Bangladesh effectively terraform its coasts to prevent flooding? I doubt it.
@@MrDarudin Then Bangladesh will flooding to your country both legally and illegally causing a series of social issues, because they have no where else to go. It's not like the rich has the responsibility to help the poor, but it sometimes can protect yourself by helping others.
Being a Dutchman I think this is the most idiot idea ever. The natural beauty of the Wadden Sea would be destroyed. This proposal is sick.
I live in Scotland so I am all for this.
@the real pendragon most of scotlands west coast is rugged and mountainous so it wont make that much of a difference