The Golden Age Of Cheap Guitars
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This is the best age to find "good bones" to make your own custom high end quality guitar.
Yeah I got a jaguar body for $35, a 24.75" neck with block inlays for $45 and humbuckers that match SD in every way for $20 each. $10 for putting stainless steel frets on the neck and I made my own pickguard. Crazy how cheap parts are these days and they were all super high quality.
where did you get that? i just started looking at jaguars... @@figtheoryvlog
Yup, you can go the extra mile and spend 200 on custom spec and inlay neck and 200ish on a custom specd and styled pick guard. I'm not sure what else you could ask for out of a setup. Other than the fact a high end guitar is ready to go
I agree 100 with you! The high end market has become very boring!!
$2600 for a guitar with 2 color options and satin finishes. I know, it's become boring.
my two oldest guitars now are a '65 Gibson SG I bought for $150 in 1970, and a '68 Gibson SG Jr. I bought together with a '55(?) old beat-up tweed Fender Super amp (2x10 original speakers, 30watts from 2x6L6 tubes) - paid $250 for BOTH guitar and amp in 1974. sold the amp a year later for $100. wish I had that one back. but I've still got the SGs. Also in 1970 - bought a brand new Marshall Super Lead 100 head for $375. In 1968 I bought a brand new Fender Tele w/hard-shell case for $170.
THAT was the golden age!
Cheap guitars are better than drugs; kids, don’t do drugs. Drugs are bad; cheap guitars are good. 🤪🎸
They go great together
Realistically with the $2k and up guitars you're basically paying for art.
At $2k these days you're paying for Walmart stock photography. It's not until you hit the $6k on up that you see truly unique works of art.
You're just paying for where it's made. Any builder in Indonesia can make the same exact guitar for 30% of the price if you give them the same exact materials and the same amount of time.
No doubt a top of the range schecter or Ibanez will outplay anything you can find
Agree!
Here’s some context for the young cats
In 1984 I paid almost $1000 for a new made in Japan strat. It had a locking nut and a crappy trem that broke quickly.
In 2010 I got back into playing and paid under $300 for a squire classic vibe Strat that was about equal in build quality and playability.
In 1988, I bought a ESP M-1 Custom for $1700. Now, the same guitar in 2024 would cost ~$5,000 new from ESP Japan... but those assholes make the LTD (Indonesia) version (which actually plays better than the original ) for $1100
@@Feverdream7777 The only reason your LTD would ever play better than a true ESP is if you didn't care for it/abused it. There is a world of difference between their quality.
@@d3ath18Tell us about the time you played his guitar that qualifies you to make such a statement.
@@Mtlatc You don't need to even play guitar at all to know hand finished in Japan by someone who has 10+ years at ESP does a better job than a middle aged lady in Indonesia making the equivalent to 5$USD an hour. One has pride in their work and the other is getting the lowest wage possible.
I own more LTD and ESP than you've ever touched so I'm comfortable in saying there is no way LTD plays better unless he abused his ESP previously.
@@d3ath18 Sure bud. That comment says one of two things. Either an overdeveloped ego or you are just a troll. Either way 🤷♂️.
Phil, this new approach of breaking your weekly live podcast down is great
You’re right Phil! Those high end guitars stay in the display cabinet or case. It’s not fun to be always worried you’re going to blemish it or ding it.
With some budget brands that do good machine work, I even find myself getting worried about blemishing my cheap guitar too, kuz, sure, they were cheap, but only $200 for a guitar that feels great? I don’t wanna mess that up! Doesn’t matter what I paid, a quality guitar deserves to be respected
Just a good time to buy guitars no matter your price range. To the point of the original comment, I’m still going to worry about damaging a Gibson much more than a firefly, and even though a firefly still feels great to play, I bought that to take to work where I’m with kids all day, and tossing it around. Despite how impressed I am by the quality of the cheap firefly, I’m still only bringing that to work
I’ve had a squire strat that long I can’t remember where I got it, done some work on it, luckily I recently came into money and thought I’d treat myself to a new Fender strat and Telecaster, after two weeks I took the Fender strat back and got a new Squire. All these years I’ve been a guitar Snob.
really glad you said this, i really feel 500-1000 is a sweet spot for prices, i got a chapman for 699 and it's great
I played a game with a friend. We could each choose five guitars from $400 to $900. There are so many great guitars in that range. As a result, I ended up with an Epiphone Noel Gallagher Riviera that I picked up for $800. . . with a case.
I agree, I bought a Merlot Yamaha Revstar II a couple of days ago on sale for €777. The stainless steel frets and amazing sounding P90s for under 1K is such good value IMO.
Love my RSS20 thinking I'll get one like yours as well..all for the price of an SG,Strat,LP
I’m probably the outlier, but I look at the features first and then the brand name. Resale value is a very small part of my decision making. I’ve always purchased prepared to never let the guitar go or let it go for a loss. I don’t think the name versus features is worth the cost. The difference seems to be minimal and usually fixed with a setup or cheaper upgrade than buying top tier.
I've had both a Gibson and Epiphone Les Paul, and much preferred the Epiphone. It felt great, had the flamed maple top, sounded identical, even stayed in tune better. And half the price at the time. I wish I had your mentality at the time, they are both gone and I would love to have held onto them.
@@reallyoldrookie433 I feel you. I have an Epiphone Les Paul and I truly considered getting a Gibson. I watched a bunch of blindfold videos comparing Gibsons and Epiphones. Half the time they got them wrong. I went and played some Gibsons and just couldn’t see where the extra $2,000 justified it. Still have the Epiphone and content.
I have 3 guitars, bought in the last 3 years or so, total cost about a grand. All uniformly excellent after setup. Perfect time for budget guitars. Good thing, I'm a geezer on a fixed income (& not much of one).
The problem with high end guitars is prices are out of control. There's a difference between expensive but justified and just too damn expensive.
This is a complaint echoed by many a Rickenbacker owner or enthusiast (someone who doesn't own one).
I got my 320 in 2016 or 2017 for $1350. Not quite a lot by Ric standards. Months later, the price of used 320s jumped to $1800-$2000.
Somebody have a guitar store once mentioned to me, there is only so much you can do with a piece of wood. When you see these high-end guitars, which are just variations of a telle or a Strat, I can’t see those prices.
THe current Harmony guitars are exciting, nitro finish, great fit and finish, great value, USA built. Great pick ups...After owning Custom shop Strats, Les Paul R9s, Jrs, , Grosh guitars, Collings City Limits, I-35s, and many others...the new Harmony guitars are fantastic guitars. Different, traditional, hand built...absolutely great guitars.
We've been in that golden age of lower priced guitars for a while now. I picked up an Ibanez Artcore AS83 back in 2006/07 for just over $350 brand new that was stupidly good. Waaay better than most similarly priced guitars, let alone 335 clones. I swapped the pickups and wiring harness because that's what I was doing at the time, not because it needed it. That thing was solid as a rock tuning wise and plays great to this day.
AFAIK, most of todays high end guitars are just "safe" invest properties. Agree with Kiesel but then I always like Carvin too.
Bro, I got an ibz 121 for $200. Its shred on a stick. I'm not gonna say it's the be all end all, but I would definitely tour or record with it. I don't see how that one model hasn't put them out of business. There's simply nothing wrong with it.
If you think guitars are at a golden age, you should look in the piano/keyboard world. For $99 you can get whats basically a midi controller with all the bells and whistles
I agree. I’ve bought several Michael Kelly guitars and they are just fantastic. You can get some of their basic models still for well under $500. They play and sound great without putting more money into them. I think they’re the most underrated or under advertised and known about guitar company.
I have a Carvin DC 150 that I got as my first real guitar from I think 1977. It is still an amazing guitar with stereo outputs, an a brass nut. Such a nice. Guitar only the phase switch has needed to be replaced. It is worth taking a chance at the 1000 to 1500 range. I imagine the Kiesel models are also great. Occasionally I look at the headless Greek God models on Reverb.
Me too, but I’ll never actually buy one
My oldest guitar I bought 55 years ago (an EKO Ranger 12) and next oldest is a Yamaha SG 1000 from the 1980's.Bought from Tokyo. I have an Ibanez I bought 49 years ago (Les Paul copy) and my newest is 3 years old, A Taylor. I think that for descent electric guitars now is a golden age of cheap well made axes.
Damn old school!
I remember this story!
What is the top left as i am looking at the vid? Top left corner of vid
"They are showing up the big guys in all ways". What a statement that actually is to make. A player of average means, that is just starting out now, is no longer at a disadvantage compared to 20-30-40 years ago. Golden age indeed.
in 2006 my Dad paid 1500 for a Martin D28 brand new. in 2008 when he died it came to me. now it is worth 3000. will never get rid of it because it was his. but would still love to own a Gibson acoustic also.
I believe every serious player needs, or better yet, deserves at least one higher end guitar just for the joy of owning it and playing it, but for any type of collection, regular folks will be more than glad to own 10 cheaper guitars that play, sound, and look good. For me, on the acoustic side, I really like my Alvarez and Yamahas, but I also own a Gibson J200…For electrics, I have a couple Squier Telecasters, Strats, a Epiphone LP, a mid tier Gretsch, and a much higher end Gretsch that I absolutely love. It took me years to accumulate all that I own, and I do own quite a few. I agree this is the golden age for lower end guitars and I love it.
One of the last things the cheap brands need to develop is great pickups, then it will be really tough for the big brands.
Could not agree more!!!!!! Why are 'budget guitars' NOT spending a few bucks more to REALLY improve the tonality?? My HB TE54 with either a vintage Fender pup, or the Suhr Classic T pups sounds and plays excellent...and I have 8 other Teles (with all kinds of well-known aftermarket/boutiquey pups) to compare...including a Custom Shop Tele (last week's wonder acquisition).
I think that Sire is getting there. Their stock pickups aren’t bad, but no….they’ll never be a Bare Knuckle, RadioShop or Fralin either…
@@mjolnircarlssen4211 Love Fralin...Lollars even more...and my CS has these Chicago Specials that sound alot like Lollars. I tried Bootstrap's Palo Duro recently...didn't work for me. McNelly's are quite good too.
The issue with designing great pickups is it's a lot of trial and error, concentrating on minutia, and listening tests. These "cheap" brands aren't set up to do that. You could probably play them recordings of a Strat and a LP and they wouldn't know which is which. Never mind what's a good pickup.
It would be a start
Hey Phil! What is the name of that acoustic guitarist you love? I heard you mention an amazing acoustic guitarist on a podcast and I wanted to check them out.
guess at Tommy Emanuel?
I have my fill of cheap guitars... 2, CV 60's and a Squire Jazz Bass.
I work in a small guitar shop that sells everything from Squiers to Master Built Fender Custom Shop guitars and beyond. The way to know if you've spent too much money on your guitar is simple. If you never take your guitar out of your home or use it to play with other people because it's so expensive, then you should have bought a cheaper guitar. Guitars are meant to played. But if you buy a $9K Master Built Fender and play it all the time, then more power to you.
The less expensive guitars are perfectly fine instruments that you could gig with without changing a thing. But to compare those inexpensive guitars with custom shop guitars it's like comparing a Hyundai with a Mercedes. Both of those cars will get you where you need to go, but if you've ever driven a Mercedes, you KNOW they have qualities the Hyundais don't have.
I built my own blonde Nocaster for well under $1,000 using a Squier classic vibe pine body and the fender 51 telecaster neck. Maybe not correct, but it is close to what I wanted and can afford.
That’s all your guitar behind you? Amazing collection 👏🏻👍
That’s just what’s on display… he has more
I live in St Louis Missouri. There is only one real Luthier here. He works on my guitars, and he has a white Strat style guitar. He made the body, neck, wound the pickups, and it’s the best guitar I’ve ever played. I ask him about building me one just like it, and the price point is pretty high, but it’s a guitar to really fall in love with. You would have to love it and keep it, because it would be hard to get a fraction of your money back out of it, if you wanted to sell it. The price and value of guitars is really a crazy thing, and I believe that to be now more than ever.
I pick up high end guitars and mid range guitars.. you’re right, nothing exciting other than the usual craftsmanship improves a bit n the high end guitars. The guitar industry needs something to wow folks. What I would like to see to really send guitars into the next level is if they came with on board effects loops (O.B.E.L.). Jerry Garcia used them, but they work with any genre. Or how about pick ups that just click in and out soo that we can easily swap out a humbucker for a p90. Or a magnet on the face to hold a steel slide. Or all the above. How’s about having bolt on necks come from the factory with a shim already under the neck because that makes tapping more resonant. The feel like we need a big update to the standard and not just talking about fret wire material because that’s getting old & wears down leveling tools too much.
Everything on your wish list is already available. Things like interchangeable pickups don't sell well. Effects on the guitar are self limiting- how many do you use and how many fingers are available to use them? It's a custom application or everybody would buy the Roland-type stuff out of necessity. It will take time for the right technology to surface.
Right before a market recedes into a niche hobby with a permanently shrunken market is usually the golden age. Manufacturers are pumping out quantity and havent shrunk down to penny pinching yet.
Been playing for 56 years now, recently got the Best Choice Products Es 335 copy for $139 online. It came in excellent condition, the action and intonation was right on, the only thing I did was raise the pickups. Sounds and plays great. Are they really cheap guitars, or are the others just way over priced? I can't justify paying $6,000 for any guitar.
I have an AZ Premium and thought about upgrading but can’t seem to justify the extra $1K lol
I bought an AZES to upgrade. It’s been 2 years and haven’t upgraded yet; it’s really good! I’ll upgrade the electronics eventually, and paint it, but for now it’s just fine!
100% with you, Phil! I have a Gibson LP goldtop that stays on the hanger while Im taking PRS SE single cuts and LTD EC models to studio and stages. They feel, sound and look WAY BETTER than the Gibson. Thanks to stupidity, I'll make money out of the Gibson whenever I decide to sell it, which is good for me! So, not mad about it.😅
My Harley Benton traditional vintage kind of gold top with p90s is one of the best guitarists I own.
I agree. I've owned Gibson and Fender guitars since 1972 . Many of them were made in the late 1950's into the 1960's. Back then they just called used guitars and they weren't all great with magic or mojo either. You could get all kinds of Gibson and Fender guitars used for under $500.00. When they became vintage in the late 1970s and 1980s and prices went sky high. They use to be affordable, but not anymore. I decided in 2000 to never pay more than a $400.00 to $600.00 for any guitar anymore. Right about then Epiphone started coming out with the ES 335s and Les Pauls and more. They were made in Korea and I was surprised and happy to see a Guitar company that was making the kinds of guitars I use to own at a decent price. Fender has just released their new line of Hot Rod amps. I bought a Hot Rod Deluxe 40 Watts with a 1x12" speaker for $350.00.00 and 60 watt Hot Rod Deville with 4x10" speakers at $450.00. I bought 2 Epiphone Les Pauls a '56 Gold Top for $400.00 and a Les Paul standard with Gold hardware in a Burgundy Flame Top finish for $400.00. All of these were new from Sam Ash and they cost about what 1 Gibson Les Paul would cost back then. I'd rather have 2 great amps with 2 very nice guitars, rather than just 1 very nice Guitar.
My 72 Les Paul Custom (I bought it brand new) with super fast frets, one pot replaced with one dated 74, a metal jack plate added and a tailpiece replaced 6 months after I bought it with oem, is considered a bit less desirable to collectors than other LPs. It still appraised at 5K. It was $525 new with case. My other guitars? Japanese Fenders, Chinese Epiphones and a couple of Dean 12 string electrics. They play just fine.
MIA Hamer guitars are an exceptional value. They never really appreciated like some boutique guitars. I’ll use Alembic basses as an example for appreciating. I bought my MIA Hamer 5-string bass at a tent sale back in the early 90’s. It was about $850.00 Out the door. I’d be lucky to get $1000 for it today. It’s probably the best built instrument that I own. I prefer playing it over my vintage Fender basses and my Pedulla bass which is considered a boutique bass. Although I have a decent collection of well built instruments, my favorite player bass is $200 MIM Craigslist Fender Jazz bass. I hope the folks that are just starting out realize that in our modern world, a guitar doesn’t have to be expensive to be good.
My first guitar back in the 90s was a $200 Epiphone. It was a piece of crap but it was cheap and served its purpose. I recently bought a $200 Firefly and the difference is astounding. I can't imagine a kid starting out today could ever get such a nice starter guitar.
Just don't ever buy Glarry. My husband who still does not play has the shittiest strat copy I ever laid hands on. Unplayable baseball size neck, microphonic pickups. Generally an embarrassing POS for $90.
He had the audacity to recommend or try to gift this POS to our nephew who tried to learn and thus quit. I would be mortified giving this to a newb.
I have been seeing videos of fender guitars with ground wires not soldered. As in not finished. My sales contact said they were steering people away from fender at this time. Maybe I’m an old boomer, but I expect quality for a 1 or 2 thousand dollar guitar. And any guitar without a hard case is not worth looking at, in my opinion. YMMV. It’s all seemingly boring junk out there. No one is earning my dollar anymore. So they don’t get it.
I'll just buy used
What you said about $1000 guitars looking amazing and $2000 guitars looking drab is so true. I have a PRS SE 594 that I got last year and S2 594 10th anniversary S2 model that I got in late January. The super premium $2400 guitar (MSRP, I did get it for about 10% less) with the PRS USA pickups looks drab. The flame has dead spots and it just doesn't pop. Meanwhile, the SE has a wonderful veneer that just pops all over, and it's got every bit the flame figuring and color shifting in the light that a solid maple top has. I'm really kinda beside myself with how disappointing the S2 ended up being. And it's dumb because it's a great guitar and tons of fun to play, it just looks so much worse.
Should try to get one of the new $4000 Mattias Eklundh guitars to review.
What about Alembic and/or Minarik? Lava-Drops? I think the issue you have with the expensive "mainstream" brands is their customer base has them locked in to their "classic" designs. Gibson, for example, can't even change the headstock angle or heel joint, add a volute, without their customer base losing their collective minds. Heck, just go with a thinner faster neck or change the fret board radius.
" Sticking your neck out!" , .. deep meaning for Gibson.
Yea but i still want a Gibson Les Paul Custom Shop 59 reissue with a crazy flame top and im willing to pay that $6,000 price whenever i get the money saved up. Ive played for 17 years and own a 2016 Gibson Les Paul Traditional i paid $1700 for new. Love it but wont sell it. 1700 seems cheap nowadays
My Pete Thorn Suhr is pretty dang cool. And my Ibanez Az2204 Prestige KB Koa Brown is impossible to find they only made 16 for the US I think. Anyone who bought a Dimebag guitar is pretty lucky. The Fretwork on cheap geetars is really bad. I’ve got a bunch of expensive and cheap guitars so I should never have to pay for another guitar in theory but right now it’s almost impossible to sell a cheap guitar after you’ve loaded it with upgrades . Haven’t tried selling an expensive one yet.
I don't mind inexpensive guitars so long as the construction is done with care and the parts aren't cheap. The ESP LTD line has a reputation for making quality guitars at reasonable prices.
Great age for budding luthiers and guitar builders. Pretty much need the experience no matter if itd budget or brand name. Cant trust to get a good product from either. Buyer beware and know your gear
It's very ironic that after decades of only being able to afford mid-tier import instruments that always needed a ton of work or modifications to make them sound and play better, I'm now being told I'm in the wrong for finally buying a higher priced US instrument that has all the little touches I've always wanted from the get-go, and doesn't need to have it's neck adjusted every 4 months. Can't win 😂
Cheap guitars are great but guitars with a heritage or a history are a nice time capsule and is something nice to pass down.
theres so much wrong with the world and all boomers are worried about is "passing down" their 1952 gold top. the way were headed you need to "pass down" MONEY because all your shits getting sold and theres nothing you will be able to do about it
It's just inflation. The standard has always been 1 months median salary for a "quality" guitar. The term quality, should probably be exchanged for US made. There's lots of quality coming from Asia for half the money.
you're right there....there's nothing "new" at the top end...but variations of the same thing from the 50s and 60s....BUTat the lower and mid price range...the "affordable" end...there really is competition and interesting guitars.....i think it's good.....but i must stop buying.....can only play one at a time anyway....cheers.
Right now, you can get a REALLY HIGH QUALITY and very playable guitar for under $500.
Surprised you didn't mention Harley Benton.
My local Big Box Guitar Store near Toronto there's good cheaper guitars for $500 and several expensive ones for $6000.
The days of the *$1000 Fender or Gibson* made in America are gone.
A company like Kiesel is a rare thing.
The Godin brands are also very good value for new guitars, sadly they resell for little.
Demographics is an overpowering factor that will soon skew the supply/demand dynamics. Replacement of consumer-aged cohorts is shrinking across the developed (disposable income wielding) world, and the glut of consumer goods incl guitars will oversupply the market driving prices down. Nice gear will always hold value, but if golden means lower prices, long term they’re only going down.
In the end you are buying a piece of wood painted. I could never understand how anyone would part with 1K or especially 7K on a guitar. I use to collect certain things & stopped. You never know when the market will drop from under your feet. You want to collect something that'll you'll never lose money on gold & silver. It's like cars. Roads are crap, people are jerks, & they go down in value. The ones that don't it's like boats bust out another thousand. You're constantly putting money into them. Just think your 7K guitar gets a chip or the neck warps.
JACKSON GUITARS USA MADE where never cheap....
One of my first guitars was a USA Jackson soloist. I got it in early 2000 for around 800 bucks. I wish I still had it, it was close to perfect for me. It was also new but had to be sold as a factory second because of a small Crack in the paint.
I knew you were going to say Keisel 😊
I thought you were going to say Gibson!
They make what sells. Feel free to make weird shit that won't sell.
nope, 1982-1985 Japan, feder JV and JV Squier . . the very best
The golden age was 70s and 80s
Its funny to me that cheap guitars are good now that I am finally playing mostly 30+ year old american guitars
But The More You Spend The Better You Play ,Right ? Lol
Novo is the one that always stops me scrolling, but I love offsets so that makes sense. Their entry level is way over my price point though.
There's absolutely no reason to spend big money on a guitar unless you're looking for bragging rights and to me, that just means you're not thinking for yourself. Just buy a cheap guitar with a decent neck and fretboard and then upgrade it. Spending thousands on a guitar is ridiculous, IMHO.
Love my 2003 Ibanez Iceman ic200 sunburst
Today i bought a 2021 prs hollowbody ii 10 top for $3,250 usd in Australia, it would cost me $7000 to import the same one new.
What did this guy just say?
What he's talking about is common sense.
So, what you are trying to say is.... The one who dies with the most guitars WINS ! :) Hey, I already have 6 guitars. lol
Those are rookie numbers. You gotta pump those numbers up.
The golden age was about 1984-1995
I cant believe you never talk about GMP
Carvin made the best "custom" guitars for the money back in the day....Now it's Kiesel
Kiesel price is far to high for having to deal with Jeff.
Wide Sky guitars.
I'm at the point that I almost hate youtube guitar channels they get free gear and shove it down our throat, How many of you viewers last week saw the Boss Katana Go must be 30 vids on it. I can afford the gear I want, Les Paul's strats etc and make great money, so it's not jealousy. Now it seems like it's a competition to have the best gear. If players spent more time playing what you have,learn than watch vids drooling over gear you will be a better player ok rant over. Going to go practice
Cheap guitars are like cheap whores. Fun to look at, but costs you more in the long run if you touch one.
Imagine for Lefty's not much choice but the best Lefty's are the jp6 music man and the evh
Hardly Bentels are for a certain type of cheap as$
Number one of dumb ass comments on the tube today👍🏼🙄
Lol
I'd love to hear an explanation for this bold statement!🙄
Well, if being cost-effective is a crime, then call me a bargain bandit! 😎💸
Nope.. just overproduced JUNK !!!
"Inexpensive" guitars equals junk.
Not true at all.
Not any more. You have to remember it wasn't just manufacturing jobs that left the US for Southeast Asia. The super precise computer controlled (CNC) cutting machines went as well. The quality for the price now is incredible.
Cheap guitars are crap, save money and buy something 1k and up
Best guitar I've ever played was a Squier Standard strat from about 2015 that i picked up used for 100$ in mint condition. I've yet to play a guitar over 2500$ but so far nothing comes close.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Exemptions don’t make the rules.
This is maybe the worst age ever if you're lefty, PRS showed the guitar manufacturers that they can say "f lefties we don't need them" and Joe Knaggs (who worked the Paul) went a stage further and won't even think about lefties (there's one lefty Knaggs made by an employee) I don't really complain for myself, I bought most of my guitars when we had better choices, I feel sorry for the kids coming through
I’m a lefty & I don’t think there was ever a golden age for us 😂 Acoustic wise this is a golden age for lefties. I don’t dabble in electrics so I can’t really speak to that.
As for kids coming up. They’ll just have to do what we’ve done.LOL Get the best of what you can.