Thank you for putting this video out. This brings a rest in my spirt. I have been watching videos and reading a book about people who have died and went to heaven. What you are talking about in the video seems more aligned with what they say its like in heaven. I also feel more of the peace of God while listening to this.
I've come to realize that most churches are legalistic to some degree. Now that light has shown in your heart, if you run away from that church who is going to be the light, then. I thought it was darkness that runs away from light! Listening to this podcast has even driven away some elements of legalism that i had but didn't realize it by lack of revelation. I have also realized that God can put restrictions to an individual that are not necessarily doctrine to safeguard that particular individual.
The statement aligns with some biblical teachings but reflects a specific theological perspective that not all Christians agree on. 1. **Belief vs. Repentance for Salvation**: The Bible teaches both belief and repentance (Mark 1:15), though some traditions emphasize "faith alone" (Ephesians 2:8-9), while others stress the importance of both repentance and belief. 2. **Grace and Transformation**: Most Christians agree that grace, not guilt or fear, transforms lives (Titus 2:11-12), though some denominations highlight repentance through guilt and confession. 3. **Repentance as a Change of Mind**: The term "repentance" (Greek: *metanoia*) means a change of mind, focusing on turning toward God, which aligns with many Christian views. 4. **Critique of Traditional Repentance**: The video’s critique of guilt-based repentance reflects grace-centered theologies, but more traditional branches may emphasize the role of guilt in the repentance process. In summary, the video reflects a grace-focused view found in some Christian circles, but it's not fully consistent with all interpretations of repentance and salvation.
@@ralphowen3367 u said the convert ceases immediately .... then in the reply to me said I might be saved I just have to renew my mind. Which is acknowledge a believer does do acts of sin and has not ceased
@@brandonmullins8812 No, that was the way you read what I said. If a person claims to be a Christian, but says they still sins, they are mistaken and their heart might condemn them, but if God has saved them they need to learn the obedience of saying what the scriptures say--that the Christian no longer is capable of sinning.
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom,all the church preach is grace, grace. A licence to sin. Huge difference between disciple and christians. A disciple of Christ take up his cross and follow Christ. Death to self.
You are right ,how can you just live your life like there's no tomorrow because you now have Grace .. Pst Leon said not of Works.. but isn't carrying your cross ,Works.if we take the Gospal to another is that not Works, if we strive to live a life that is holy and pleasing is that not us working .....didn't Apostle Paul say work out your salvation through Fear and Trembling ....why does Who are the unprofitable servants and why did JESUS say depart from me you worker of enquity I never knew you, why will Jesus allow us into heaven if all we have to do is live our life cos we have Grace and the servant who said I did Works in your name I fed the hungry gave to the poor but still Jesus didnt allow him ...
Mark 1:14-15 14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. Romans 6:1-13 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
Wow I had a dream not long ago that I was in charge seleclected to be in charge of setting ppl out prison and I so beleive the Lord was refering to the bond in religion the chain of religion 🙌🙏 because we're the spirit of the Lord is there is freedom 🙏🙌
When i got saved by Grace i came under Grace according to Romans 6:14 how is it possible when i Sin i fall into Grace .Apostle Paul says you can receive the Grace in Vain when Do i receive it in Vain?? 2 Corin 6vs1 Hebrews 12vs15 we fall short of the Grace . Romans 6vs1 what then shall we say shall we continue in SIN so that Grace may increase ,Certainly NOT. PAUL say in 1 cor 15vs10 his Grace to me was not in vain ,i worked harder than all of them , yet not I ,but the Grace of GOD that was with me. GRACE WAS GIVEN FOR THE RACE . NO MAN CAN DO THE WORKS OF CHRIST .
Hebrews 12vs1 says we must lay aside every Sin which clings so closely and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us ..We need the GRACE OF GOD TO HELP US ENDURE the race . 1corinthians 9vs24 but i discipline my body and keep it under control lest after preaching to others i myself should be disqualified. We need to obey the truth at all times . Galatians 5vs7 Paul says you was running well ,but WHO HINDERED YOU from obeying the truth. 2Thes 1vs8 Vengance on those who do not obey the Gospel of Jesus Christ ....... Who is it that HAS the gospel of Jesus Christ, is it not the believers, Christians.?????? If you Got Vengance as penalty from GOD, how DID Grace save you?
Now I don’t believe I’m saved anymore because I like sinning, if I didn’t, it would be a no brainer to stop doing it. So what do I do now if I thought I was saved but because I still desire to sin, I’m not. If I’m not saved then what’s the point anymore?
I’m pretty sure my life just changed after hearing this. Wow!! ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Love the sheep vs pig analogy!❤❤
Very awesome chat... 100 percent the truth. 🎉🎉It energises a person to hear the message of Grace.
Thank you for putting this video out. This brings a rest in my spirt.
I have been watching videos and reading a book about people who have died and went to heaven. What you are talking about in the video seems more aligned with what they say its like in heaven. I also feel more of the peace of God while listening to this.
Thank you, love this message. Always believed one cannot lose salvation. Thank You Jesus
What a fantastic sitdown,I always felt exhausted when I was told take every thought captive for years,its exhausting
Lol!! It surely can be!
Wow, the revelation on the Lord's prayer... they couldn't pray in he's name because it wasn't given yet 🤯👏🔥
Grace invites me to dance.. lovely☺
This is the good news of the gospel. Brilliant!
This is the goods. Praise the Lord!
Repentance is indeed required for salvation, but the key to understanding the subject is that God does the repenting on our behalf
What?????
@Melissa-Isaiah61BeautyforAshes Give it time to sink in. Faith comes by hearing (truths such as this), and hearing by the word of God.
Clearly the two of you are having a ball of a time!
What an easy exchange of thoughts, ideas and beliefs...lovely.
LOVE it
What a stunning setting with two special teachers sharing such valuable messages. Just loving it - thank you Pastor Bevan and Prophet Leon. ❤❤❤
Romans 14 shuts most arguments for me
This is incredible both of Prophet and ps ray sling david sling
Thank you Jesus for our leaders 🙏 You two are epic together. So funny!!
AMEN AND AMEN 🔥❤
Grace grace! When Moses said "Show me your glory" the Lord caused His goodness to pass by!
Very powerful, amen 🙏🏽
Yhu!! Thank you for the abundance of Grace Knowledge!!!
Grace and power! 🎉
Aaaah this was amazing! Thank you so much Pastor Ray and Prophet Leon!!! This podcast is epic.
Wonderful ❤
Praise God its a wonderful new covenant 🙏❤Thankyou and God bless you both
I've come to realize that most churches are legalistic to some degree. Now that light has shown in your heart, if you run away from that church who is going to be the light, then. I thought it was darkness that runs away from light! Listening to this podcast has even driven away some elements of legalism that i had but didn't realize it by lack of revelation.
I have also realized that God can put restrictions to an individual that are not necessarily doctrine to safeguard that particular individual.
This is awesome!!!
❤️🔥✝️
Awesome amen
The statement aligns with some biblical teachings but reflects a specific theological perspective that not all Christians agree on.
1. **Belief vs. Repentance for Salvation**: The Bible teaches both belief and repentance (Mark 1:15), though some traditions emphasize "faith alone" (Ephesians 2:8-9), while others stress the importance of both repentance and belief.
2. **Grace and Transformation**: Most Christians agree that grace, not guilt or fear, transforms lives (Titus 2:11-12), though some denominations highlight repentance through guilt and confession.
3. **Repentance as a Change of Mind**: The term "repentance" (Greek: *metanoia*) means a change of mind, focusing on turning toward God, which aligns with many Christian views.
4. **Critique of Traditional Repentance**: The video’s critique of guilt-based repentance reflects grace-centered theologies, but more traditional branches may emphasize the role of guilt in the repentance process.
In summary, the video reflects a grace-focused view found in some Christian circles, but it's not fully consistent with all interpretations of repentance and salvation.
Good day Prophet Leon and Ps Bevan
Grace ignited🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Truth!!!!!!
Great conversation! Love this 🤗
This is such an amazing podcast!!
If you are saved one will start sinning less automatically!
No. The convert ceases immediately upon being justified by grace
@ralphowen3367 u haven't sinned since u got saved?? Whoa... maybe I'm not saved....
@@brandonmullins8812 You might be saved, but your mind is not renewed to line up with the bible--I John 5:18.
@@ralphowen3367 u said the convert ceases immediately .... then in the reply to me said I might be saved I just have to renew my mind. Which is acknowledge a believer does do acts of sin and has not ceased
@@brandonmullins8812 No, that was the way you read what I said. If a person claims to be a Christian, but says they still sins, they are mistaken and their heart might condemn them, but if God has saved them they need to learn the obedience of saying what the scriptures say--that the Christian no longer is capable of sinning.
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom,all the church preach is grace, grace. A licence to sin. Huge difference between disciple and christians. A disciple of Christ take up his cross and follow Christ. Death to self.
Is the yolk easy, and the Cross heavy? Carry the Cross as the truth sets us free. Who has the hardest Cross to carry?
You are right ,how can you just live your life like there's no tomorrow because you now have Grace ..
Pst Leon said not of Works.. but isn't carrying your cross ,Works.if we take the Gospal to another is that not Works, if we strive to live a life that is holy and pleasing is that not us working .....didn't Apostle Paul say work out your salvation through Fear and Trembling ....why does Who are the unprofitable servants and why did JESUS say depart from me you worker of enquity I never knew you, why will Jesus allow us into heaven if all we have to do is live our life cos we have Grace and the servant who said I did Works in your name I fed the hungry gave to the poor but still Jesus didnt allow him ...
Thank you 🙏🙌
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Mark 1:14-15
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Romans 6:1-13
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
❤❤❤❤
Wow I had a dream not long ago that I was in charge seleclected to be in charge of setting ppl out prison and I so beleive the Lord was refering to the bond in religion the chain of religion 🙌🙏 because we're the spirit of the Lord is there is freedom 🙏🙌
Your young men shall see visions. Your old men shall dream dreams.
Do you now identify as an old man? 😂🤣
the action of repenting; sincere regret or remorse.
That glass of wine must have been good. Why start a contraversy
When i got saved by Grace i came under Grace according to Romans 6:14 how is it possible when i Sin i fall into Grace .Apostle Paul says you can receive the Grace in Vain when Do i receive it in Vain??
2 Corin 6vs1
Hebrews 12vs15 we fall short of the Grace .
Romans 6vs1 what then shall we say shall we continue in SIN so that Grace may increase ,Certainly NOT.
PAUL say in 1 cor 15vs10 his Grace to me was not in vain ,i worked harder than all of them , yet not I ,but the Grace of GOD that was with me.
GRACE WAS GIVEN FOR THE RACE . NO MAN CAN DO THE WORKS OF CHRIST .
Hebrews 12vs1 says we must lay aside every Sin which clings so closely and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us ..We need the GRACE OF GOD TO HELP US ENDURE the race .
1corinthians 9vs24 but i discipline my body and keep it under control lest after preaching to others i myself should be disqualified.
We need to obey the truth at all times .
Galatians 5vs7 Paul says you was running well ,but WHO HINDERED YOU from obeying the truth.
2Thes 1vs8 Vengance on those who do not obey the Gospel of Jesus Christ .......
Who is it that HAS the gospel of Jesus Christ, is it not the believers, Christians.??????
If you Got Vengance as penalty from GOD, how DID Grace save you?
I heard some testify ina testimonial that he saw Oral Roberts in hell. I'm like, how is that possible? He was saved by the grace of God
The legal ones who attack you for grace hold their people in bondage of fear. Fear is not true loyalty. So sad. Also, $$$$$.
There is no trinity of Persons in God.
❤❤❤🙌🙌🙌👑👑
I believe O S.A.S., but the problem with the usual take on this subject is that they believe a Christian still sins now and then.
A MEN
He that committeth sin is of the devil--I Jn. 3:8.
Salivation is a sure thing
Now I don’t believe I’m saved anymore because I like sinning, if I didn’t, it would be a no brainer to stop doing it. So what do I do now if I thought I was saved but because I still desire to sin, I’m not. If I’m not saved then what’s the point anymore?