It would be interesting to see the public reaction to this movie, I mean this introduces so many characters and DC lore to the main stream at once, it’s not throwing people into the deep end, it would’ve been throwing people into the ocean lol
This is basically a live action version of the animated movie we got in 2012, Justice League: Doom.... With the exception of a few character changes, the basic premise is EXACTLY as what happened in that movie. So we technically did get this movie 😅
Bet ima peep doom I’m wanting to get more into dc than I already am and I honestly think this mortal script was soooo interesting and wonder what the visuals and cgi would’ve looked like with the 300 million dollar budget they had in 2009
From the timeline you give, this movie was in development between 2006 and 2008, which was also the period the first Iron Man was in production. It's possible the Justice League movie came as a response from Warner to try and beat Marvel to the punch with their Avengers movie.
DC had a head start from the beginning. But WB just can't stop stepping on its own toes. Based on all the cancelled projects, they're just too reactionary and having tunnel-vision on only the profits from the next movie. The writers kept coming up with innovative ideas (JL:Mortal , Superman Lives) and a balance between comic book and live action (Batman Returns). But the executives kept cancelling projects based on audience feedback (Batman Continues) and nervousness (Ben Afflek's Batman). I think they have learned from their mistakes (Batgirl), and I have high hopes for James Gunn's DCU.
I highly doubt that they have learned anything. They are all about money and soon they will conflict with Gunn about creative differences resulting in the end of the latest reboot.
They haven’t learned squat because we will once again have two coexisting Superman and two coexisting Batman (and a third if he shows up in Joker 2). It’s getting ridiculous
Talia logic: “I want revenge on Batman and meta humans because Batman rejected me.” Also Talia: “Here’s info I stole from Batman’s computer before he rejected me.”
@@Bulletsandblockbusters yeah I never like Taila and her father as Batman villains because I always think Batman should be street centred and I would have replaced them with a new character as the Bat king
@@srstriker6420or Deacon Blackfire or The Mad Monk. And speaking of Ras Al Ghul do you think he work better for: 1. Hawkman and Hawkgirl 2. Wonder Woman 3. Katana.
They didn’t want Armie Hammer to confuse audiences and now they said, “Hey look the Multiverse idea is making money. We can have as many Batmen as we want!”
Can you imagine how good DC could’ve been if they waited and let the characters develop and then dropped justice league in 2020 right before the pandemic or after
I think this would’ve worked. The Justice League were fairly popular, not B-Tiers like the Avengers, they didn’t need individual introductions back then.
In all honesty the story sounds pretty good for the most part, I don’t like the casting especially Armie Hammer as Batman, even before he ate people, & some of the costume designs leave a lot to be desired but I like the reverse marvel approach of starting with a Justice League film establishing the universe & characters before seeing spin-offs, that would still be a really smart approach for the new DCU
I recommend reading the comicbook version, which is a Superman story arc called "Sacrifice". It's available in trade paperback format so you'll have much of the story in one book.
The script is available online, It's pretty solid. Needed some work, but overall, had this been made, the superhero climate we know today would be drastically different. Still really want to see this movie made, but as an animated movie with the same cast, with a different Batman, obviously, and Martian Manhunter as Hugh Keyes Brynn is no longer with us, and Anton Yelchin was supposed to be Wally West, too.
It would have been for WB. I don't think this film would have made much money though considering it was Nolan's push (anchored by performances by both Bond and Jason Bourne) that created the insanely huge mainstream superhero support we had until this year.
@@andrewness Very true, that series did add some verisimilitude to the genre. Before that there was The Matrix and Blade. There is a trajectory to find. I always credit the Bourne movies for their groundedness. This is the movie series that was making adjustments to the Bond formula; which was the precursor superhero series to the contemporary movement we are experiencing right now.
Wow! That was a lot to unpack. That movie sounds like it would have been pretty crazy and all over the place. Hard to tell how well it would have gone over. It would have been a real shame if it would have bombed and possibly tanked the MCU as an unintended side effect. Plus, in hindsight, Armie Hammer probably wasn't an ideal choice to play the new Batman, LOL. What they should have done was wait until the Nolan Batman trilogy was over, and then brought back Bale and Routh to reprise their roles as Batman and Superman, then they could have added the other characters around them. That would have made it a little more like the MCU, as audiences would have had already established and recognizable versions of the two biggest characters identify with. Much like the Avengers with the big three, Iron Man, Cap and Thor. I think that would have been pretty cool and probably hugely successful. Especially if they had featured Bale's Batman in a version of the Justice League. I think people would have been really curious to see what that would be like. Plus that movie could have also served as a sort of Wonder Woman origin film as well to give her a big introduction. The beginning could have had her leaving Paradise Island to go to the world of man because of some big looming threat that would have led the to formation of the JL.
A couple of things to say about this: -They kinda dodged a bullet by not casting Hammer as Batman, lol -Actually I think Hammer and Cotrona should have swapped characters, I’ve seen Cotrona in From Dusk Til Dawn The Series and he strikes me as very serious and Intense, perfect for Batman. -funny how a decade later Cotrona and Brody do join the DC MOVIE UNIVERSE by playing the adult versions of the Shazam family members.
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I would love to have seen this, but can understand why it got cancelled. And in a way I'm glad it did. The Dark Knight trilogy is the best set of superhero movies ever made in my book, and Mad Max has been something very special to me ever since sneaking into the cinema to see the original when I was 10 in 1979. So having Fury Road, and having Nolan's movies as stand-alone is the preferred option by far to me. But it would've been very interesting to see this. George Miller is a fantastic filmmaker (and a great Aussie! 😃👍) and his take on DC could've been very different to how most superhero movies turn out these days. Certainly a big step up from the state of recent Marvel movies. Congrats on another great video mate! I don't know how you do it but you do it - you just keep hitting them out of the park!
For the same reasons you're glad, I'm sad. I never cared about Mad Max and I really dislike the Nolan trilogy (they're good movies, but not what I wanted to watch as a fan). I agree Miller's a bad ass, so I'd love to watch his take on the JL. Love the casting and most of his choices. I feel like he actually understood the source material and would give us LIFE.
I think it needs to be pointed out that the test suits are never the same costumes you see you in a movie. Go look at the test suits that Henry Cavill first put on or even the test suits for Christian Bale. It’s to get an idea of how the actor would look is that character for the studio and really nothing else.
that's true, they often use the suits from previous/classic movie versions of the characters for the test screenings. However, in the case of jl mortal, they had already basically wrapped pre-production and were ready for filming before the whole project got scrapped. So basically, the suits from the leaks were the exact suits we would've seen in the film.
As an Australian where Megan Gale is well known it is a crime that she never got to play Wonder Woman. She has an excellent sense of humour and a vivaciousness absent from Gal Gadot. She dated a slightly nerdy Aussie Comedian for many years so I think she would have relished the geeky obsessiveness of Comic Cons and fandom. It was a missed opportunity, not to mention having George Miller as the architect of a DC Expanded Universe sounds like heaven compared to what we got instead.
Gal was fantastic and actually sounded Greek... like the character is meant to be. Gale wouldn't have fit. And Miller would have been terrible... he can keep his woke Furiosa franchise
I think the idea to start with a Justice League movie then doing a bunch of solo films isn't a bad one so long as the solo films aren't prequels. Furthermor the plot would be better for a second or third Justice League film, especially if Barry Allen dies and the Justice League forgive Batman.
I agree I think it's a great idea if the story is done right. And tbh George Miller's story was genius. Show the personality of all the heroes. Moments where they are sitting down and talking rather then doing superhero things right out the gate. Really bring them together in a down the earth way. The script wasn't perfect but Alot of the scripts ideas was used in the dceu. The superman fight with zod was basically wonder woman vs Superman. The way Maxwell Lord acts in the script is very lex luthor in bvs like. The flash in this script and the suit reminded me of the show years later. George was def on to something. And the team up in the city reminded me of the avengers in new York. When they fought the omac droids. The way it was wrote that's how I envisioned it. And if it worked for the avengers. 5 years later after this film was canned. I think the masses would have had a similar reaction to it 2007. And I get the panic for 2 Batmans. Cause it was never done before. Nobody knew the future so nobody wanted to take the risk til mortal.
It could have worked, although there seem to have been a few too many balls in the air for everyone to have a meaningful role to play. Green Lantern seems to vanish halfway through this synopsis, for instance. Was there a real dramatic need for that character to be in this movie?
Podrían tener spinoofs precuelas los menos conocidos Superman y Batman no es necesario conocer su origen pero green lantern y flash sería increíble ver sus historias de origen
Cast: Solid Director: Hell Yeah Story: Mixed I approve of just about everything, except for the villains. I think it would be more enticing to have had Lex Luthor and Brainiac teaming up. Lex Luthor always believed that it should only be him, while Brainiac is interested in Superman and metahumans. Take a little bit from the failed Superman Lives script, and then there’s what we saw in the Justice League animated cartoon from the 2000s era. Mix those two together, and we got ourselves a film
Lex and brainiac working together doesn’t make a lot of sense. Brainiac wants earth or at least it’s metahumans and has little regard for human life. Brainiac is solely driven by science and gaining knowledge, he is very cold and would likely just destroy the reminisce of earth after he’s got what he wanted. Lex however sees himself as some sort of hero, but with a very big ego, if anything he’s more likely to team up with the JL to fight brainiac because their interests don’t really align
Another great video! Never even heard of this cancelled project until now. Sounds so far fetched but might be better than the actual 2017 Justice League we got
I think Joss Whedon got closer to how Superman should have been portrayed at the end, but having him solve every problem was dumb. Snyder really seemed to not like the character at all and tried to "fix" him, but really just made him boring.
i think my biggest problem here is just that armie hammer given his age at the time would have been playing a younger batman, but i find it hard to gel that version with the Kingdom Come inspired character in the script. i feel like seeing 28 year old batman in leg braces retreat to the cave just doesn’t work for me
Idk, I think it works as a fake victory and part of his growth as a character. He was naive to let Talia in, that got Brother Eye destroyed and he learns something about trust by the end of the movie. It could easily impact his relationship with Selina (how would a burglar earn his trust - and his heart - after what Thalia did?), his relationship with Dick (handling Dick is all about trust, right? 🤭) and his work as a vigilante without Brother Eye. TBH, the more I think about it, the more I like the ideas they threw in. And the tech suit was... fine.
If anything, I'd say the script didn't do much for Wonder Woman and Aquaman. Like... she was an amazon and he had a prostetic hand. Nothing more. I'd give Wonder Woman an actual arc around that trust theme (maybe learning how to trust SOME men?), since her lasso of truth played an important role in the script and she'd have an important fight scene with Superman, it would be cool and could enhance Batman's own arc. Oh, and I would keep both of Aquaman's hands. The script was too busy to build an actual impact around he losing one.
Ive always said if the stars had aligned and the 2007-2008 writers strike hadn't happened and if WB had managed to get Justice League Mortal released and if it was a huge success then this would have gone against the notion that some people have that you can't do huge a team up movie from the jump without build up which this notion was already proven false with 2000 first X-Men movie
But the Xmen have always been a team. Other than Wolverine none of them have had success as solo characters. I agree that the JL didn't NEED Solo movies though since the big 3 are already so famous, whereas Ironman, Thor and Cap needed some build up.
@@MrM-u3h yeah maybe the X-Men wasn't a very good comparison since they've always been a team but the 2000 X-Men was the only hugely successful team up movie before The Avengers came out in 2012 , yeah there's the 2005 Fantastic Four movie but when compared to the 2000 X-Men movie it's not that innovative or memorable at all
@roderick8167 Yeah the FF movies have been very forgettable. I hope we get a great one in my lifetime. Dr Doom is Marvels greatest villain and they have yet to do him.justice. They should be able to do Reeds powers now with advances in sfx.
@@MrM-u3h i know right I'm dying to see Doctor Doom done justice, the 2005 Doctor Doom was decent and the less said about the 2015 Doctor Doom the better
By the way, the fact that you almost always have footage from DC live action content for everything you mentioned made me realise that, technically, someone *really* good with editing could just pick some footage left and right and actually make this movie
Yep. George Miller’s Justice League: Mortal could’ve kickstarted life back into superhero films in a big way a long time before Marvel did. It was fully casted and scripted and was just in pre-production, even a tie-in video game was being made, but unfortunately the film project was just abandoned and scrapped before it even got made. Very unfortunate knowing what could’ve been!
I got multiversal cable and saw this movie about a year ago. They changed the name to simply Justice League. The best part was that one part where the guy does that thing then Superman does his super thing and Batman and Wonder Woman are kickin ass and Green Lantern makes all these bad ass constructs. So awesome.
Jay Baruchal, as the main villain is wild choice. I’d be really interested to see if he could have pulled it off. The rest of the cast is pretty interesting I think I would have liked to see how Common handled John Stewart.
Glad to see WB don't intend to repeat that mistake by, I don't know, planning a new Batman slate under James Gunn while Matt Reeves' Batman run is gathering pace
This movie premise gives alot of references to the "Justice League: Doom" plot, with some major key differences here and there, but I genuinely would've loved to see how this movie played out 🔥
Wow. This would have been a combination of a few solid comic book arcs that I'd love to see in live action. One of my favorites is the Superman story called "Sacrifice", where Max Lord takes control of Superman, and the Justice League all fail to stop him, except for Wonder Woman who then steps in to take care of business. She borrows Batman's kryptonite ring, and goes after Supes. That's when she and Supes get into mortal combat, he tries to throw her into the sun, she tries to beat the crap out of him while wearing the ring, and he punches her so hard she is knocked back to earth, leaving a massive impact crater. She, not Batman, is the one who ends up killing Max Lord, which alienates her from the Batman. Then there's the Justice League story arc called "Tower of Babel", wherein Batman compiles a secret dossier on each of the Justice Leaguers, and plans a "just in case" for each of them in case they get out of control. That's how they are all taken down by Talia when she steals that information.
Was thinking the same, haven't seen superheroes movies for a long time now so seeing that he had a lot of the visuals to illustrate the script from the actual movies that got made was really a surprise. The inclusion of Superman 4 was hilarious, though XD
Heyyyyyy that Superman suit is the obvious inspiration for Supergirl’s costume in The Flash!! Another cool “Easter egg”/inside baseball thing about the excellent Flash movie (that tanked for some reason)!
Sad seeing army hammer so excited considering what has happened to his career. Dude could have been bond but now he’s selling his truck coz he can’t afford gas.
I would've been okay with this movie, but the fact George Miller says he doesn't like Superman is enough to make me glad the movie never got made. Snyder League is as solid as a JL live action movie can get.
Dawg why is the script for this Justice league movie way better than the one we got lol I could cry. Imagine where the dceu would be today with these characters and these writers mixed with the directors of the dceu we actually got
George Miller is one of the greatest, and hearing the story of getting the actual guitar scene to work in Fury Road, shows he is dedicated to what he's invisioned. That said; its hard to say any of this woulda worked. MCU Rogers and Stark nailed what they had to nail. Rogers is pretty much Superman without the godly powers; he doesn't give up, he doesn't exchange lives, he doesn't see defeat and he's in love with one woman without being crippled by her. While most Superman's have been brooding. MCU Stark nailed something Army Hammer couldn't. Making the man out of the suit as interesting as the one in it; Bruce Wayne on film doesn't work. Keatons had the most personality but that was more Keaton than Wayne. Stark works so much better from a film perspective.
Honestly too many storylines in one, the movie woulda felt bloated and confusing. Especially confusing is the choice of villains leaning on Talia and the Al-Ghul’s since we had just seen Neeson in 2005. I can’t imagine this would have done well
Ok : I LOVE the idea of Superman "My Mom did it" costum. Because it reminds me of the same answer, in the old 90's show "Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" with Terry Hatcher and Dean Cain. I was 9 in 97, but it was fun to watch.
this sounds kind of interesting. not sure if i would've enjoyed it. but it would've been an interesting attempt in retrospect. i almost want to maybe see an animated one-shot of this to get a loose idea of what they were going for. but i don't think it would've been worth it that much. hopefully Gunn does a good job with his version of Justice League whenever that comes out.
I think George Miller should've just adapted Tower Of Babel. That way Justice League: Mortal as the title would've been perfect cause The Justice League is "Gods Among Men", but they would've been made " Mortal" cause someone would've gotten ahold of Batman's plans, made them lethal, & damn near killed The League including Batman himself.
Having an ensemble film straight away probably would have been too jarring in too deep water too fast They pulled it off in Watchmen, but that's only because the proper cut is long as hell - plus it's for adults so it's easier for the audience to grasp since it's not a bunch of kids and teens
A few years ago I read George Miller's Justice League script and I didn't like it. The plot was too overloaded, we were given heroes with a vague past, which is hypothetically the same as in the comics, but without details, as well as their motives: - why did Batman decide to collect information on how to kill all the heroes, if they are all good here and have long proven themselves? - why does Aquaman not have one arm, and what connects him with Diana? - when and how did Hal Jordan die? - why does Max Lord take revenge on superheroes and not on the government that experimented on him (is this a hint about the Justice Society or something)? - why was Flash killed in the first film debut? Should I add to this Lord's strange plan to turn all people on earth into cyborgs through fast food? Well, the casting raises questions - if the actors chosen for the roles of Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Barry and Wally at least visually suffered in their images, then the rest is a complete miscast.
It would be interesting to see the public reaction to this movie, I mean this introduces so many characters and DC lore to the main stream at once, it’s not throwing people into the deep end, it would’ve been throwing people into the ocean lol
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They could've handled it.
Yeah, even if you don't include the three everyone knows already, there's a lot going on here.
This is basically a live action version of the animated movie we got in 2012, Justice League: Doom.... With the exception of a few character changes, the basic premise is EXACTLY as what happened in that movie. So we technically did get this movie 😅
Doom sure was missing Talia considering the movie's explanation for the League members' weaknesses getting out was filmsy.
That might be because they are both loosely adapted from the Tower of Babel storyline
Bet ima peep doom I’m wanting to get more into dc than I already am and I honestly think this mortal script was soooo interesting and wonder what the visuals and cgi would’ve looked like with the 300 million dollar budget they had in 2009
And jl doom is def one of my favorite DC movies
Really?! Now I gotta watch that
I love the aesthetic idea of that intro scene, with Black costumes for a funeral.
Would’ve been cool! And a great opening shot
Unfortunately, most fans hate the idea of black suits.
From the timeline you give, this movie was in development between 2006 and 2008, which was also the period the first Iron Man was in production. It's possible the Justice League movie came as a response from Warner to try and beat Marvel to the punch with their Avengers movie.
I think that wasnt a thing till Iron Man 2 tho
DC had a head start from the beginning. But WB just can't stop stepping on its own toes. Based on all the cancelled projects, they're just too reactionary and having tunnel-vision on only the profits from the next movie. The writers kept coming up with innovative ideas (JL:Mortal , Superman Lives) and a balance between comic book and live action (Batman Returns). But the executives kept cancelling projects based on audience feedback (Batman Continues) and nervousness (Ben Afflek's Batman). I think they have learned from their mistakes (Batgirl), and I have high hopes for James Gunn's DCU.
I highly doubt that they have learned anything. They are all about money and soon they will conflict with Gunn about creative differences resulting in the end of the latest reboot.
@@mosesmaina2416I'm hope that the major difference is DC is it's own studio finally.
I still want t osee Supes fight a giant spider
They have Gunn leading them now
They haven’t learned squat because we will once again have two coexisting Superman and two coexisting Batman (and a third if he shows up in Joker 2). It’s getting ridiculous
This story sounds amazing. Anton Yelchin as Wally? Fuck yeah. I miss that dude so much. Seeing what we could’ve had..
But Batman killed someone ... And the nanobot trope is lazy.
@@eudacye709 to be fair this was before a lot of tropes became "lazy" but I agree that batman killing lord is just dumb
Talia logic: “I want revenge on Batman and meta humans because Batman rejected me.”
Also Talia: “Here’s info I stole from Batman’s computer before he rejected me.”
Haha kind of stupid, agreed.
Read this multiple times and i still dont get it
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
@@Bulletsandblockbusters yeah I never like Taila and her father as Batman villains because I always think Batman should be street centred and I would have replaced them with a new character as the Bat king
@@srstriker6420or Deacon Blackfire or The Mad Monk.
And speaking of Ras Al Ghul do you think he work better for:
1. Hawkman and Hawkgirl
2. Wonder Woman
3. Katana.
They didn’t want Armie Hammer to confuse audiences and now they said, “Hey look the Multiverse idea is making money. We can have as many Batmen as we want!”
This attitude will bite them back, it’s never a good thing to compete with yourself and very soon it will be confusing.
That’s what was missing from The Flash! Armie Batman! 😂😂😂
Also armie hammer is pretty much a confirmed cannibal, but no one seems to remember that
Because the Arrowverse had shown them that DC fans have actually no problem if you feature multiple versions of the same character onscreen
@@nickbutcher760 ZOMBIE 🧟♂️ BATMAN!!
I would've loved to have previously seen a DC Universe, to give DC the love it deserves
A proper one instead of the CW’s forced together crap.
Exactly!
Can you imagine how good DC could’ve been if they waited and let the characters develop and then dropped justice league in 2020 right before the pandemic or after
this would be the "endgame" for DC, i hope james gunn do 'justice' for the justice league
That doesn't necessarily mean good. Marvel did that and the majority of those films are not very good at all. 2 star blockbuster schlock.
The mcu was still massive right up to Endgame
Then it devolved into a complete pile of shit after.
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@@TheFlash-rh2el "Majority of those films are not very good at all" from the dude with CW The Flash pfp LMAO!
I think this would’ve worked. The Justice League were fairly popular, not B-Tiers like the Avengers, they didn’t need individual introductions back then.
they easily couldve teased the movie trailers during re-runs of JL and JLU on cartoon channels and all the kids and teens would be losing their minds
In all honesty the story sounds pretty good for the most part, I don’t like the casting especially Armie Hammer as Batman, even before he ate people, & some of the costume designs leave a lot to be desired but I like the reverse marvel approach of starting with a Justice League film establishing the universe & characters before seeing spin-offs, that would still be a really smart approach for the new DCU
That Superman vs Wonder Woman fight would have been epic, especially on the big screen
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I recommend reading the comicbook version, which is a Superman story arc called "Sacrifice". It's available in trade paperback format so you'll have much of the story in one book.
The script is available online, It's pretty solid. Needed some work, but overall, had this been made, the superhero climate we know today would be drastically different. Still really want to see this movie made, but as an animated movie with the same cast, with a different Batman, obviously, and Martian Manhunter as Hugh Keyes Brynn is no longer with us, and Anton Yelchin was supposed to be Wally West, too.
It would have been for WB. I don't think this film would have made much money though considering it was Nolan's push (anchored by performances by both Bond and Jason Bourne) that created the insanely huge mainstream superhero support we had until this year.
@@TheFlash-rh2elI'd argue Raimi's Spider-Man was ultimately more influential on the genre, certainly on the Marvel side.
@@andrewness Very true, that series did add some verisimilitude to the genre. Before that there was The Matrix and Blade. There is a trajectory to find. I always credit the Bourne movies for their groundedness. This is the movie series that was making adjustments to the Bond formula; which was the precursor superhero series to the contemporary movement we are experiencing right now.
The animated movie Justice League: Doom was basically this.
@@DrSuess360Not really the only thing similar are the contengency plans.
Yo this script sounds so cool
I think this would have been a blockbuster
Wow! That was a lot to unpack. That movie sounds like it would have been pretty crazy and all over the place. Hard to tell how well it would have gone over. It would have been a real shame if it would have bombed and possibly tanked the MCU as an unintended side effect. Plus, in hindsight, Armie Hammer probably wasn't an ideal choice to play the new Batman, LOL. What they should have done was wait until the Nolan Batman trilogy was over, and then brought back Bale and Routh to reprise their roles as Batman and Superman, then they could have added the other characters around them. That would have made it a little more like the MCU, as audiences would have had already established and recognizable versions of the two biggest characters identify with. Much like the Avengers with the big three, Iron Man, Cap and Thor. I think that would have been pretty cool and probably hugely successful. Especially if they had featured Bale's Batman in a version of the Justice League. I think people would have been really curious to see what that would be like. Plus that movie could have also served as a sort of Wonder Woman origin film as well to give her a big introduction. The beginning could have had her leaving Paradise Island to go to the world of man because of some big looming threat that would have led the to formation of the JL.
Fascinating! Amazed that they got so far into production yet its never talked about in fandoms.
So a mix of Doomed and The Build up to Infinite Crisis. Neat!
it's an adaptation of JLA: Tower of Babel
A couple of things to say about this:
-They kinda dodged a bullet by not casting Hammer as Batman, lol
-Actually I think Hammer and Cotrona should have swapped characters, I’ve seen Cotrona in From Dusk Til Dawn The Series and he strikes me as very serious and Intense, perfect for Batman.
-funny how a decade later Cotrona and Brody do join the DC MOVIE UNIVERSE by playing the adult versions of the Shazam family members.
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I would love to have seen this, but can understand why it got cancelled. And in a way I'm glad it did. The Dark Knight trilogy is the best set of superhero movies ever made in my book, and Mad Max has been something very special to me ever since sneaking into the cinema to see the original when I was 10 in 1979. So having Fury Road, and having Nolan's movies as stand-alone is the preferred option by far to me.
But it would've been very interesting to see this. George Miller is a fantastic filmmaker (and a great Aussie! 😃👍) and his take on DC could've been very different to how most superhero movies turn out these days. Certainly a big step up from the state of recent Marvel movies.
Congrats on another great video mate! I don't know how you do it but you do it - you just keep hitting them out of the park!
Agreed. I would've loved to have seen this just to see how visually bonkers it would've looked. And thanks for the kind words! Doing my best.
For the same reasons you're glad, I'm sad. I never cared about Mad Max and I really dislike the Nolan trilogy (they're good movies, but not what I wanted to watch as a fan).
I agree Miller's a bad ass, so I'd love to watch his take on the JL. Love the casting and most of his choices. I feel like he actually understood the source material and would give us LIFE.
I think it needs to be pointed out that the test suits are never the same costumes you see you in a movie. Go look at the test suits that Henry Cavill first put on or even the test suits for Christian Bale. It’s to get an idea of how the actor would look is that character for the studio and really nothing else.
that's true, they often use the suits from previous/classic movie versions of the characters for the test screenings. However, in the case of jl mortal, they had already basically wrapped pre-production and were ready for filming before the whole project got scrapped. So basically, the suits from the leaks were the exact suits we would've seen in the film.
For Mortal they already finalized the designs. In the video they talk about the batman design and rehearsels etc.
The editing on this video was TOP NOTCH!
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As an Australian where Megan Gale is well known it is a crime that she never got to play Wonder Woman. She has an excellent sense of humour and a vivaciousness absent from Gal Gadot. She dated a slightly nerdy Aussie Comedian for many years so I think she would have relished the geeky obsessiveness of Comic Cons and fandom. It was a missed opportunity, not to mention having George Miller as the architect of a DC Expanded Universe sounds like heaven compared to what we got instead.
Gal was fantastic and actually sounded Greek... like the character is meant to be.
Gale wouldn't have fit.
And Miller would have been terrible... he can keep his woke Furiosa franchise
@@dcmastermindfirst9418Bro, you’re going to flip when you find out that Benedict Cumberbatch and Tom Holland don’t actually have American accents.
@phabiorules I know that.
Can't stand holland though.
Only Gayle, unlike her, could not make a career in Hollywood.
But unlike Gadot, Gail's acting career was unsuccessful.
Every time you take the trunks off Superman, he looks naked, even though it’s all blue, it looks wrong!
Agreed!
damn aquaman with a water hand actually sounds dope imo
I think the idea to start with a Justice League movie then doing a bunch of solo films isn't a bad one so long as the solo films aren't prequels. Furthermor the plot would be better for a second or third Justice League film, especially if Barry Allen dies and the Justice League forgive Batman.
I agree I think it's a great idea if the story is done right. And tbh George Miller's story was genius. Show the personality of all the heroes. Moments where they are sitting down and talking rather then doing superhero things right out the gate. Really bring them together in a down the earth way. The script wasn't perfect but Alot of the scripts ideas was used in the dceu. The superman fight with zod was basically wonder woman vs Superman. The way Maxwell Lord acts in the script is very lex luthor in bvs like. The flash in this script and the suit reminded me of the show years later. George was def on to something. And the team up in the city reminded me of the avengers in new York. When they fought the omac droids. The way it was wrote that's how I envisioned it. And if it worked for the avengers. 5 years later after this film was canned. I think the masses would have had a similar reaction to it 2007. And I get the panic for 2 Batmans. Cause it was never done before. Nobody knew the future so nobody wanted to take the risk til mortal.
It could have worked, although there seem to have been a few too many balls in the air for everyone to have a meaningful role to play. Green Lantern seems to vanish halfway through this synopsis, for instance. Was there a real dramatic need for that character to be in this movie?
Podrían tener spinoofs precuelas los menos conocidos Superman y Batman no es necesario conocer su origen pero green lantern y flash sería increíble ver sus historias de origen
Cast: Solid
Director: Hell Yeah
Story: Mixed
I approve of just about everything, except for the villains. I think it would be more enticing to have had Lex Luthor and Brainiac teaming up. Lex Luthor always believed that it should only be him, while Brainiac is interested in Superman and metahumans. Take a little bit from the failed Superman Lives script, and then there’s what we saw in the Justice League animated cartoon from the 2000s era. Mix those two together, and we got ourselves a film
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How about Dr Destiny and Eclipso as the villains
it wouldve been the first movie i dont think they wanted to use a villain as big as lex luthor or brainiac off the rip
Lex and brainiac working together doesn’t make a lot of sense. Brainiac wants earth or at least it’s metahumans and has little regard for human life. Brainiac is solely driven by science and gaining knowledge, he is very cold and would likely just destroy the reminisce of earth after he’s got what he wanted. Lex however sees himself as some sort of hero, but with a very big ego, if anything he’s more likely to team up with the JL to fight brainiac because their interests don’t really align
@@Accountnolongerinuse Yes but Lex is too smart to be compared to mere humans
That cast is mostly PURE GOLD...
Another great video!
Never even heard of this cancelled project until now.
Sounds so far fetched but might be better than the actual 2017 Justice League we got
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Wouldn't be hard...
🥹 been waiting for this one. Great content as always!
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Sounds like an awesome script! Especially coming from the vision of George Miller..
Instead we got 2017 justice league 😂
At least we got the Snyder Cut
What a Timeline were living in haha
@@CRUELLANDER both are bad
I think Joss Whedon got closer to how Superman should have been portrayed at the end, but having him solve every problem was dumb. Snyder really seemed to not like the character at all and tried to "fix" him, but really just made him boring.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp nah bruh
i think my biggest problem here is just that armie hammer given his age at the time would have been playing a younger batman, but i find it hard to gel that version with the Kingdom Come inspired character in the script. i feel like seeing 28 year old batman in leg braces retreat to the cave just doesn’t work for me
Exactly. The casting choices were strange.
Idk, I think it works as a fake victory and part of his growth as a character. He was naive to let Talia in, that got Brother Eye destroyed and he learns something about trust by the end of the movie.
It could easily impact his relationship with Selina (how would a burglar earn his trust - and his heart - after what Thalia did?), his relationship with Dick (handling Dick is all about trust, right? 🤭) and his work as a vigilante without Brother Eye.
TBH, the more I think about it, the more I like the ideas they threw in. And the tech suit was... fine.
If anything, I'd say the script didn't do much for Wonder Woman and Aquaman. Like... she was an amazon and he had a prostetic hand. Nothing more.
I'd give Wonder Woman an actual arc around that trust theme (maybe learning how to trust SOME men?), since her lasso of truth played an important role in the script and she'd have an important fight scene with Superman, it would be cool and could enhance Batman's own arc.
Oh, and I would keep both of Aquaman's hands. The script was too busy to build an actual impact around he losing one.
@@narcisosanz8137 Hahaha. You said "Handling Dick". LMFAO.
@@narcisosanz8137 They were there solely for fanservice.
Ive always said if the stars had aligned and the 2007-2008 writers strike hadn't happened and if WB had managed to get Justice League Mortal released and if it was a huge success then this would have gone against the notion that some people have that you can't do huge a team up movie from the jump without build up which this notion was already proven false with 2000 first X-Men movie
But the Xmen have always been a team. Other than Wolverine none of them have had success as solo characters. I agree that the JL didn't NEED Solo movies though since the big 3 are already so famous, whereas Ironman, Thor and Cap needed some build up.
@@MrM-u3h yeah maybe the X-Men wasn't a very good comparison since they've always been a team but the 2000 X-Men was the only hugely successful team up movie before The Avengers came out in 2012 , yeah there's the 2005 Fantastic Four movie but when compared to the 2000 X-Men movie it's not that innovative or memorable at all
@roderick8167 Yeah the FF movies have been very forgettable. I hope we get a great one in my lifetime. Dr Doom is Marvels greatest villain and they have yet to do him.justice. They should be able to do Reeds powers now with advances in sfx.
@@MrM-u3h i know right I'm dying to see Doctor Doom done justice, the 2005 Doctor Doom was decent and the less said about the 2015 Doctor Doom the better
@@roderick8167 that should do next Jeremy Slater’s original script for the 2015 movie
This wouldve been very interesting to see sounds like it wouldve been a bit gritty and the fact the funeral ending up being barry’s funeral seems wild
I wish the Snyder cut justice leagie could’ve turned into an avengers like saga with multiple awesome films
It would have been so much better seeing as DC has far superior characters.
I mean thanos is just a cheap imitation of Darkseid
In the comic version of this it's Wonder Woman that snaps Lords neck and it makes more sense than Batman doing it
Love your videos!! Would you ever do a video on the Live Action Akira and Keanu Reeves Cowboy Bebop?
Thanks and sure!
By the way, the fact that you almost always have footage from DC live action content for everything you mentioned made me realise that, technically, someone *really* good with editing could just pick some footage left and right and actually make this movie
Yep. George Miller’s Justice League: Mortal could’ve kickstarted life back into superhero films in a big way a long time before Marvel did. It was fully casted and scripted and was just in pre-production, even a tie-in video game was being made, but unfortunately the film project was just abandoned and scrapped before it even got made. Very unfortunate knowing what could’ve been!
I know am late to the party but this is a fusion between Tower of Babel, kingdom come, and crisis on infinite earths
I honestly think it would have been great with George Miller's direction.
I got multiversal cable and saw this movie about a year ago. They changed the name to simply Justice League.
The best part was that one part where the guy does that thing then Superman does his super thing and Batman and Wonder Woman are kickin ass and Green Lantern makes all these bad ass constructs. So awesome.
Can I get the contact for your cable guy?
Jay Baruchal, as the main villain is wild choice. I’d be really interested to see if he could have pulled it off. The rest of the cast is pretty interesting I think I would have liked to see how Common handled John Stewart.
Great video, guys! Love the montage of relevant and illustrative clips!
Man I can’t believe George Miller would have had Batman be a cannibal
During the 'The Plot' segment, I kept thinking 'Ah so this must be the setup for the sequel' but, uhh the script just keeps going, huh...
Glad to see WB don't intend to repeat that mistake by, I don't know, planning a new Batman slate under James Gunn while Matt Reeves' Batman run is gathering pace
Great Video👍👍 Keep up the good work. Is Joss Whedon’s Wonder Woman on your list? Or David Ayer’s Suicide Squad?😉
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This movie premise gives alot of references to the "Justice League: Doom" plot, with some major key differences here and there, but I genuinely would've loved to see how this movie played out 🔥
So, some OMAC Project, some Tower of Babel and just a drop of Crisis on Infinite Earths.
Wow. This would have been a combination of a few solid comic book arcs that I'd love to see in live action. One of my favorites is the Superman story called "Sacrifice", where Max Lord takes control of Superman, and the Justice League all fail to stop him, except for Wonder Woman who then steps in to take care of business. She borrows Batman's kryptonite ring, and goes after Supes. That's when she and Supes get into mortal combat, he tries to throw her into the sun, she tries to beat the crap out of him while wearing the ring, and he punches her so hard she is knocked back to earth, leaving a massive impact crater. She, not Batman, is the one who ends up killing Max Lord, which alienates her from the Batman.
Then there's the Justice League story arc called "Tower of Babel", wherein Batman compiles a secret dossier on each of the Justice Leaguers, and plans a "just in case" for each of them in case they get out of control. That's how they are all taken down by Talia when she steals that information.
Great video!
If your info is right.
It looks like they kept almost all these ideas and rammed them into the movies they ended up making
Was thinking the same, haven't seen superheroes movies for a long time now so seeing that he had a lot of the visuals to illustrate the script from the actual movies that got made was really a surprise. The inclusion of Superman 4 was hilarious, though XD
This movie would have been absolutely fucking incredible. What a shame. And WB ended up casting multiple Batman’s anyway. What a colossal fuck up
Armie hammer as Batman is wild 😅😅😅
Heyyyyyy that Superman suit is the obvious inspiration for Supergirl’s costume in The Flash!! Another cool “Easter egg”/inside baseball thing about the excellent Flash movie (that tanked for some reason)!
Great video! That's worth a sub
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Would be down with Common as a Green Lantern. He could had been a great John Stewart.
They should.adapt this story into a graphic novel. With artwork reflecting the intended characters how they would have looked
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Sad seeing army hammer so excited considering what has happened to his career. Dude could have been bond but now he’s selling his truck coz he can’t afford gas.
I would've been okay with this movie, but the fact George Miller says he doesn't like Superman is enough to make me glad the movie never got made. Snyder League is as solid as a JL live action movie can get.
What we Wanted : Justice League Mortal. What We Got : JOSStice LeAguE.
WBD must release an animated version of this NOW!!!
Justice League: Doom is pretty much this movie. They just changed who got Batman's contingency plans (Mirror Master infiltrating in the Batcomputer)
@@NIDELLANEUMNaw it's something like it but believe me this movie is much different in so many ways.
This is just really convoluted
I love DC Mortal talk. They had the casting in the bag
Ah, the famous justice league mortal.
The implementation of OMAC was awesome
I basically had the movie playing in my head with his words. Not a bad concept but idk . I got into it.
Dawg why is the script for this Justice league movie way better than the one we got lol I could cry. Imagine where the dceu would be today with these characters and these writers mixed with the directors of the dceu we actually got
This and Guillermo Del Toro's Justice League Dark had so much potential...except for maybe Armie Hammer
Casting a cannibal to play Batman would have been wild.
George Miller is one of the greatest, and hearing the story of getting the actual guitar scene to work in Fury Road, shows he is dedicated to what he's invisioned. That said; its hard to say any of this woulda worked. MCU Rogers and Stark nailed what they had to nail. Rogers is pretty much Superman without the godly powers; he doesn't give up, he doesn't exchange lives, he doesn't see defeat and he's in love with one woman without being crippled by her. While most Superman's have been brooding. MCU Stark nailed something Army Hammer couldn't. Making the man out of the suit as interesting as the one in it; Bruce Wayne on film doesn't work. Keatons had the most personality but that was more Keaton than Wayne. Stark works so much better from a film perspective.
Would love to see a what could have been for MOS 2 or maybe the crisis on infinite earths movie
6:43 Why was Batman at Superman’s Fortress of Solitude?
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Adam Brody flash would’ve been good
Honestly too many storylines in one, the movie woulda felt bloated and confusing. Especially confusing is the choice of villains leaning on Talia and the Al-Ghul’s since we had just seen Neeson in 2005. I can’t imagine this would have done well
With George Miller I doubt that. I think he would have figured it out.
damn this was a better direction than the one we got
These videos are amazing. Holy Crap we almost had a live action Cannibalistic Batman. Crazy
Ok : I LOVE the idea of Superman "My Mom did it" costum. Because it reminds me of the same answer, in the old 90's show "Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" with Terry Hatcher and Dean Cain. I was 9 in 97, but it was fun to watch.
this sounds kind of interesting. not sure if i would've enjoyed it. but it would've been an interesting attempt in retrospect.
i almost want to maybe see an animated one-shot of this to get a loose idea of what they were going for.
but i don't think it would've been worth it that much.
hopefully Gunn does a good job with his version of Justice League whenever that comes out.
Martian Manhunter catching on fire and Aquaman becoming fearful of water, was a comic that I just saw a video on. Crazy how that works out huh?
7:52 it seems Batman was gonna kill from the start of any DC cinematic universe
I think George Miller should've just adapted Tower Of Babel. That way Justice League: Mortal as the title would've been perfect cause The Justice League is "Gods Among Men", but they would've been made " Mortal" cause someone would've gotten ahold of Batman's plans, made them lethal, & damn near killed The League including Batman himself.
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Armie Hammer is a cannibal aficionado
5:41 "Months ago Talia exploited Batman's confidence..."
i.e. She gave up the 🍑
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This does sound like something the 2000s would've whipped up
Wooooow! This movie literally sounds insane. And Frank Miller would have killed this film 😫😫😫
Yo that casting is low key fire
As a hardcore Batman fan, I can say that I would've loved seeing that cowl.
This sounds WAAAAAAAAY better than Zack Snyder's basic JL alien invasion crap
Having an ensemble film straight away probably would have been too jarring in too deep water too fast
They pulled it off in Watchmen, but that's only because the proper cut is long as hell - plus it's for adults so it's easier for the audience to grasp since it's not a bunch of kids and teens
A few years ago I read George Miller's Justice League script and I didn't like it.
The plot was too overloaded, we were given heroes with a vague past, which is hypothetically the same as in the comics, but without details, as well as their motives:
- why did Batman decide to collect information on how to kill all the heroes, if they are all good here and have long proven themselves?
- why does Aquaman not have one arm, and what connects him with Diana?
- when and how did Hal Jordan die?
- why does Max Lord take revenge on superheroes and not on the government that experimented on him (is this a hint about the Justice Society or something)?
- why was Flash killed in the first film debut?
Should I add to this Lord's strange plan to turn all people on earth into cyborgs through fast food?
Well, the casting raises questions - if the actors chosen for the roles of Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Barry and Wally at least visually suffered in their images, then the rest is a complete miscast.
They almost made a Batman vs Superman movie before deciding to do both Superman Returns and Batman Begins.
De hecho en 2004 iban a hacer una bvs
Boy that sounds like a really cool Movie.