NFL Players Should Get Lifetime Healthcare in Exchange for 18 Game Season | THE ODD COUPLE
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- THE ODD COUPLE - Rob Parker and Ephraim Salaam react to the news that the NFLPA has entered discussions to extend the NFL season to 18 games.
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"Work you over like a burger and fries". 😂 absolutely gold.
Rob would be perfect rep - STOP IT!!! 😂
The players get worked over because despite making all that money, they can’t go a year without earning a check. So they aren’t going to hold out. And without holding out, you can’t get the owners to fold.
To be fair in the US we should all have healthcare via a single payer system. Healthcare here is a joke with the insurance companies caring only about maximizing profits. I lost both of my parents to cancer at a young age and their hospital bills and drug prices were insane. If you aren't a multi-millionaire, then you are screwed.
It’s immoral to profit off of human pain and suffering. And that’s what the American healthcare system is.
Why is America the only 1st world country WITHOUT national health coverage?
That’s capitalism for you
This is the comment of comments right here. Unfortunately that’s a conversation a lot of us don’t want to have, but you are absolutely right.
CORRECTION ALL AMERICAN WORKERS, CHILDREN AND THOSE ON DISABILITY (ALL VETERANS GOES WITHOUT SAYING). LAZY PEOPLE, ILLEGALS, AND OTHER IMMIGRATANTS MUST PAY FOR THEIRS
18 games?! This is insane, players should strike right now! Healthcare and guaranteed contracts after the rookie contract should be the minimum request the players should ask from the owners.
Lifetime healthcare!! No way, the owners are greedy and got they Foot on the players neck. The Union is weak and 18 games is Guaranteed!
The players have zero leverage
It’s not happening
@@radagilliam3692foot on the neck....smh
Players take steroids you think they care about their health 😂
@@STR33TJESSUS You think most 20-something’s know what’s best for their health? Lol sometimes you have to protect people from themselves. Lifetime healthcare for guys in weekly car wrecks is more than fair.
I agree with Rob here.
When the NFL players went on strike in 1987 the owners played games with replacement players, and a lot of regular players crossed the picket line, including future Hall of Famers like Joe Montana and Lawrence Taylor. When the baseball players went on strike in 1994 the owners did try using replacement players, but not a single regular player crossed. That is why NFL players have non-guaranteed contracts and a hard salary cap, while MLB players have guaranteed contracts and just a luxury tax.
I love it when Rob gets on his Union progressive tip. Great advocacy. Can you talk about the UFC and MMA fighters lacking a Union?
Dana White is as big of a POS as Vince McMahon. He’ll never allow fighters to unionize.
Dana White is one of the greediest human beings in sports. Not even a scathing Netflix documentary or something about the deteriorating health of his ex-fighters would move him to empathy.
Hell no. Go find a show that talks about that mess.
Ephraim is so good on this show
The product is significantly declining and they want to add another game!? The last week of the season is a joke because nobody plays. 16 Games is the magic number, they need to go back to that.
@Adam_Guidry
The players were asked before the new agreement to vote to keep the 16 games schedule or expand to 17 games! The players agreed the extra game!
ITS DECLINING BUT NOT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE MONEY MAKER IS..MEDIA RIGHTS..NFL IS BY FAR THE MOST WATCHED SPORT IN AMERICA AND FOR THE RIGHT TO AIR THE GAMES THE NFL COLLECTS $10 BILLION A YEAR OR $312 A TEAM BEFORE A TICKET IS SOLD..
The players can have lifetime health care any time they want. They just have to give up some of their pay to cover the future cost. That they haven't done so tells you exactly how much they care about future heal care. They want their money now, and they'd rather have their money now than coverage of health care costs later.
Any paid benefits you get through your job is not 'extra' - and it's not free money. Your company would be happy to close down your health insurance and just give you the money - it's all just the cost of hiring you to them. Players who get paid millions of dollars could always put aside some of it for future health care if they wanted to, but they want to live big today, so they don't. That's their problem. Since when do companies pay for the health care of former employees?
If they're going to 18 games, they must expand the rosters to 60 and all dress on Sundays. Practice squads should get expanded again as well. But guaranteed contracts are still impossible. However, lifetime health coverage would be doable. The union must negotiate hard during the next CBA. It's worth a strike.
There isn't enough talent for 60 men rosters for 32 teams...
The owners know they go have do it eventually🥳
@@razkable there is for sure
@@razkable yes there is. There's plenty of talent. Xfl, Canadian leagues, and usfl
@@razkable There is more than enough talent today to fill 50 rosters.
Maybe an unpopular opinion but the more football i get the less likely i am to watch. We need like 3 different streaming services and basic cable to watch games now and they got games almost every day of the week which makes me less likely to watch the majority of them and the longer the regular season is the less i care about it
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Lmaooo NFL players fighting back against owners????😂😂😂 yeah aight
They didn't stand up for Colin Kaepernick because they knew they'd get cut. Their degrees aren't worth the paper they're printed on. They're not stupid.
16 games was perfect
17 works cause this isn't 1979 where they played 16..teams can travel easier...you gotta add 1 but 2 is a little much...
@@razkableright
@@razkable17 don’t work because that last week most of the teams have locked in playoff spots and don’t play there starters
From 12 games to 14 then 16 now 17 & here come 18 place your bets on 19 next.
Players union is weak because there is competition league ... nba , mlb can strike cause those players can play in other countries and still make a decent paycheck
It’s a choice to play AND their game check is your salary for 3 years. They’ll be fine.
Players had the opportunity to fight for more guaranteed money and longtime health insurance but they asked for dumb stuff like less contact at practice and less practice time like coaches don’t break that rule every year
Wait, the NFLPA doesn't have a war chest? I'm studying to be a pilot, and even our union has a war chest. WOW!!!
NFL isn’t a players league like basketball! The logo is the shield 🛡️ it’s about the teams.
They’re never going to get lifetime healthcare, the average player only plays I think 3-4 years. I understand that they put their bodies on the line and some players suffer very serious injuries that affect them for the rest of their lives. But lifetime healthcare for an average of 3-4 years of work is a hard sell and probably won’t ever happen
If the owners agree, they might make it 5-10 years just to be assholes. You have to play that long to get it.
As a South African I know this phenomenon so well. “Give a certain amount of players (blacks in 🇿🇦) enough money for them to stop any revolt.” The biggest problem is the ones that have been given the money. They hold the power. If they decide to down tools it would be beneficial for everyone involved. People have the power.
SOUTH AFRICA IS 90% BLACK. THEY ARE LITERALLY IN CONTROL
No!
Hard working Americans should get healthcare!
Not just that they should get a bigger roster, make it 60 man not 53.
16 is good enough 💯
Or how about manage your money right so you can pay for your own insurance once you retire expecting them to take care of you forever giving you millions of dollars is crazy
No they'd rather by cars , jewelry, and have 6 baby mamas
That's a fair point
@soda8736 not every player is a multimillionaire just cause you see a few out of the thousands doing that doesn't mean it's all of them but you people are raised to be ignorant that's how you people are
@@PuertoVerdean that's more the reason not to be by cars , jewelry, and skeet in everything walking
@@soda8736 once again how do you guys know the majority is doing that?
NFLPA is a complete joke. The players are so shortsighted they just want to get their money asap and don’t care about life after football smh
The nfl dont care you fans crying
18 games is a thing now? I don't even care for 17 game season
I wouldn't mind 18 games as long you give every single player guaranteed contracts. And if you cut a player you still have to pay their salary in full.
This is the first time I’ve ever heard Rob make sense
The career of an average player when the NFL first bullied the Union was 2.5 years. Players did not want to lose half their careers and have the other half affected by reduced revenues due to a cancelled season(if it ever get to that point). Don't forget that the NFL structured their media deals so that they get paid regardless if there is football played or not. They also used replacement players. Hence, they can wait the players out. It would take at least a cancelled season to get a fair deal. Also, a lot of players may even go against their union and play with the replacement players.
That is what happened, big name players like Randy White, Eric Dickerson, Howie Long etc did just that playing with the replacements.
Don't need an 18-game season EVER! Baseball season is just as ridiculous!
We need more games to gamble on, eliminate all pre season games. 22 WK season, 3 bye weeks, 2nd seed 1st round bye. CFP got the memo more games more football more gambling, I need more fkn money
Wow seems like MLB has the best benefits
They really do! Growing up my dad tried so hard to get me to play baseball cuz we was adamant that its the most lucrative with the least risk
@@marklumar2034basketball probably the most lucrative now wemby might see close to a billion off nba contracts alone🤙🏿
@@marklumar2034 absolutely! bro.. I definitely should've been more serious about playing baseball 😁⚾️
If they are going with an 18-game season, add a second bye week in the schedule and extend the season by few weeks. Maybe get rid of the Pro Bowl and make being an All-Pro an honorific, with a league-paid All-Pro party in Hawaii the weekend after the Superbowl, or place All-Pro weekend in Hawaii towards the end of the regular season as part of a league-wide bye week.
These guys acting like the players can’t afford insurance after they are done playing. Give me millions of dollars for a few years and I’ll pay my own damn insurance I’ll be able to afford it. Stop crying these are millionaires
Yea, im tired of this topic.
Yeah but you also wouldn't be riddled with NFL related injuries
@@Gymantis give me a fucked up knee and hip for the rest of my life as long as I can walk it’s worth it for the millions of dollars I can have. Why you think these guys risk their bodies? Because the damn money is worth it.
@@Gymantisneither are they
I understand what you're saying and I agree but the argument is for the lesser guys who only had 1, 5 year contract maybe and now they're 30 with chronic back pain, expensive medical bills and not that much money. Also it's mainly for the older players who weren't getting that type of money
They are saying its easy but he didn’t do it
Once their 3 year career is over put in contract that team has to drive player to millitary recruiting station to get free healthcare.😅
17 games is just so odd and 18 games is just too much, just make it 16 games again idc for all these games
The players are not unified and will cross the line, no savings.
It’s going to be 20+ games a season one day
Forget the health care they should just flat out say no to an eighteenth game.
16 games was just fine, I feel like it’s just over saturated. Less is more.
Football players will never ever do what the players in the NBA do. The NBA players get hate for taking a stand for a lot of things, but they have sat games to get things done. Football players will not do that because if they miss one game check, they are ready to sign a trick deal.
I'm sorry but the fans have ZERO culpability in the NFLPA's historical inability to negotiate for their best interests. The players have always had a short term view and it's cost them dearly. The '82 strike should've netted them guaranteed contracts and long term health insurance. Every CBA since has been short term improvements. Every year, you've got multiple players complaining about their deals, because of concessions made by the union. The NFLPA has the leverage, and unlike the MLBPA, has refused to lose a season in the short term, for better deals in the long term.
PLAYERS SHOULD HAVE GUARANTEED CONTRACTS..
I agree with the topic. 16 was great for years. Now these greedy ass owners wanna delute the game by making these ridiculous rules to where the appeal is slowly declining. I just hope some of these old school owners get it together and stop over inflating the league with more games that is only decreasing the interest meaning now the playoffs are taking too long to get started. But I digress🤷🏿
If you run a business, start offering lifetime health benefits to every employees family for life after 3 years of service. Ask General Motors how well that is working out.
GM employees don’t get into minor car wrecks for work.
@@coreymcmillen381 Then maybe you end the sport.
Yeah they need more than 53 roster spots
And ESPN and other networks always talking about the HUGE QB, corner, DL and WR salaries skews public perception of player salaries in general.
Daamn Bro,, if u played any longer body wise u probably would be 35-40% Cyborg..That's very impressive !!! Your Determination I mean lolol,,along with the Cyborg thing lol.
17 games are too much football. Another week of worrying about your fav players getting hurt
Benchmarks are a bad idea, it promos owners and GMs to push you out the back door for a young player. Only the stars will get the benefits.
At the very least two bye weeks !
With 14 playoff teams and 6 wild card games we don't need 18 games...guys are going to get hurt...17 was bad until they added a 7th playoff team and an extra playoff game making the 1 seed more important...
Go back to 16 period 💯
“ idk how to get health care I’ve had it my whole life “ hard for me to feel bad for someone making millions of dollars and at least having free health care for a good amount of time when the average citizen probably doesn’t even have free health care and y’all can really have free health care for a life time if you really tried lol
Ok here we go with the struggle flexing Olympics. Where my struggles are harder than yours so your problems are irrelevant. That is such a bitch mentality.
Didn't ask you to "feel bad".
@@oaktree1626 good cause I don’t but he’s complaining like he got it tough lool
What has this to do with anything? You are part of the problem, Brother. They are getting screwed and we are getting screwed. We have the same enemy. Don't be stupid!
@@Doubleittwice yeah bruh it's hard for me to empathize with NFL players. Lol ijs
Players know the risk and they get pay millions, if they arent happy just quit!!
Im sorry indont agree the nba killed its league giving their players too much power... adding another game means more money the players know the risk
And people like Rob complain about NBA players load manging. We'll like you said the players have too much power .
Rob is right.
It's always about money $$$
Legal slavery
No one's making you play football. Quit whining.
Not sure if many of you or even the guys talking understand unions and collective bargaining. It's not about whether they should or should not get lifetime healthcare. It's about if the players prioritize it.
Everything in bargaining is give and take. The players can get it in the next deal they just have to make it a priority over some of the other things they currently enjoy. But good luck getting a 25 year old super athlete to understand that having lifetime healthcare is worth giving up money in your pocket today.
The owners will get eighteen games because the NFLPA is the weakest union in pro sports. If the players strike, the owners will just use replacement players ("scabs") until the players cave, like they did in '87.
The injury risk and turnover is a an obvious discussion point, BUT It's a much MUCH deeper conversation about the cultural make up of the leagues and I'll just say that. Comparing it to Hollywood where the vast majority have access to a lot more big picture information or the NBA where one player can hold immense power over the entire league...just not the same.
Rob has a problem with NBA players using their powers but he wants NFL players to use their power
I have a feeling that the NFLPA is horrible because football is a position heavy sport. We see QBs at every level of football get treated like super stars while we have running backs who have owners saying they can win without them. Just my thoughts.
It's true though.
nfl players dont have the player leadership to stop the games
I believe the nba provides lifetime healthcare but there’s like a requirement. I can’t remember but I know Tony snell didn’t qualify.
Think it’s 10 years in The NBA
Before we know it they gonna be playing 20 games per season they doing too much for money and not enough for players
Plenty of ppl have tough jobs with no health care or making millions at the job so boo hoo
Grown men who know everything about NFL teams and nothing about their precious freedom is a national embarrassment
Healthcare for life is not going to happen. Too much uncontrolled money for owners and second players would exchange that for smoking more weed
When Chris is gone Rob does the same topics. Bash the nfl players Union, bash Lebron, and then a baseball topic.
Ever notice how when the players get more and more, the quality of the league suffers??? Hows the NBA doing rn 😂 players got their money and no one is watching
The nba play in and 7 game first round the 2 extra wild card baseball teams them adding a few games over the years the nhl making first round 7 games adding an extra round to the playoffs the nfl adding a game and an extra playoff team heck 2 all made sense..this 18th game is some bs...the dolphins perfect record will never be surpassed if we do this
Any NFL player can quit playing, the moment they don't like the NFL current benefits.
They can also go on strike too. There are several options.
Why quit a well-payed job when you have the right to strike?
What’s the race of the majority NFL players. everyone knows what it is
Blaming this on NFL owners is a cop out when the NFL PA agrees to not have guaranteed incentives in the CBA.
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I want them to get the healthcare but the entire players union has to look in the mirror and take that accountability.
The career of an average player when the NFL first bullied the Union was 2.5 years. Players did not want to lose half their careers and have the other half affected by reduced revenues due to a cancelled season(if it ever get to that point). Don't forget that the NFL structured their media deals so that they get paid regardless if there is football played or not. They also used replacement players. Hence, they can wait the players out. It would take at least a cancelled season to get a fair deal. Also, a lot of players may even go against their union and play with the replacement players. Hence owners have huge disproportionate leverage.
Then you have teams trying to guilt players saying that if they do not take a discount to help the team win, they are selfish lol. They say that the players agreed to the salary cap hence they should consider the cap when asking for a huge contract. You don't get to cite the agreement when you bullied the other party into agreeing to an unfair agreement.
Make millions playing in the league and can’t afford healthcare… you can miss me with that bullshit
Why do they have to pay for the rest of your life? What other business does that? My advice is, player should stop spending money on cars, houses and strippers and put money away for the rest of your life like everybody else does.
NFL players union has dropped the ball
it was fine at 16 ? why they be adding random shii for no reason
Greedy owners always want more money.
@@blaketindle4703you do realize almost half that money goes to the equally greedy players right?
How is baseball able to pay so much irs not nearly as popular as it once was
18 games is that all? NBA plays 82 + playoff I know it’s different and more 1000000 times more physical but they have a 6/7 month off season
It’s not a comparison at all
Rob you can't be screaming from the rafters to pay the athlete then be against an extra game to supplement that money being spent
What a travesty, a nother form of legal slavery 💯
Stop it you can’t go that far. Slaves don’t make millions of dollars!😂
@@blaketindle4703also slavers weren't free. People who say that nfl player making millions for a game he chooses to play ate idiots and have never studied slavery or are stuck in a victim mindset
Who has the best product; NFL, NBA, or MLB 🤔??
Nfl, probably because they dont have guaranteed contracts though all players have some guaranteed money
Not the mlb...too many games for how many playoff teams there are now..162 made sense when there were 2 playoff teams or even 4 or 8 ..they should limit the games for health so playoff pitching is easier and we can get another dynasty for more than 3 years or even a title winner for 3 straight years...the current structure limits that so much...there is a reason the only team to win 3 in a row in the modern era was the 98 to 00 yanks who were the best modern team ever in 98 and survived a scare in 00 and were a worse team clearly by then
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Got a feeling this is gonna happen NFL players aren't united and get fleeced every CBA
They will never be united bc its plenty of athletes waiting to replace them and the 53rd guy needs his check way more than the star qb's.
Exactly
@derekpowell9615
The NFL players were asked before the new agreement to vote to keep the 16 games schedule or expand to 17 games! The players agreed the extra game!
Why should they get lifetime care? They make far more than the average person and no one is pointing a gun to their heads to play. They should save their money instead of wasting it on five lambos and three mansions and set it aside into a fund used for future emergencies and future medical care. They already know the risks of playing football.
Dude stfu. THE NFL is the most profitable sports league in the world. They can afford health care for a couple thousand guys. Why do people like yourself side with ownership?
Tbf it’s different because of the amount of money they make compared to the average company
@@z-mane1438 just ignore people who make this argument.
@@z-mane1438 the most valuable companies in the world like Microsoft, Google, and Amazon don't even pay their employees a tenth of what these players get. And the NFL are like ants compared to those listed companies. The players are more than compensated and just need to be wiser with their money and not ask for a handout everytime. Those Amazon drivers deserve more than what these NFL players get and they don't get lifetime healthcare.
Not everyone is making all those millions tho. Some practice squad guys can only make around 48k a month. For four months out the year
Really! You all, are wanting free health care for life for players who are paid millions and millions? Are you telling me they cant afford to pay it. Nobody forces them to play. A construction worker needs to pay for his and his job is more dangerous and he has to keep working for double the amount of years a football players have to work. Do you guys have to pay for your healthcare! Of course you do. Give us all a break with this feeling sorry for millionaires. Tell them to sell all the jewellery hanging from their necks and wrists. Come on!
NFL players are so WEAK!
Fans could care less. 18 games? That's more football. Bring it on.
Nah we don't need 9 loss division winners and multiple at or below .500 teams in the playoffs every year and less chances for teams to win every game lose every game stay healthy for playoff runs...we might have a 11 loss playoff team and 10 loss division winner one day
These players make millions of dollars and you want lifetime healthcare? GTFOH!!! God forbid you have to work a real job like us peasants to get healthcare
Not all of them make millions of dollars. Most don't get that second contract
Comparison is the thief of all joy
@@MarangMatlala aman
You've been brainwashed into believing that healthcare shouldn't be a basic human right.
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ohhhh nooo, these poor millionairs who dont earn enough money to take care about something essential like healthcare by themself....
what those guys are needing is a mandatory coaching in general things of life before gettin payed 7 figures salarys. but now, since they are rich before even gettin into the pro`s and have no relation to reality anymore, its probably neccessary to create all those priviledges.
What happened to the loud mouth?
Mind as well go to 20 gms 🤣🤡