My new high tech Fully Automated Railroad Crossing
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- This video shows the main functionalities of the automated railroad crossing gates on the HaSaKo HO Modelrailroad integrated in the Faller Car System Digital.
The automated RR-crossing gates/barriers and bell sound are a copy of the Netherlands AHOB crossing gates / barriers. The RR-crossing is controlled by both the Train software and the Faller Car System Digital 3.0 software. There are no stop magnets in the road and there are no fixed contacts in or around the track. The command of closing or opening of the gates/barrier is programmed in the Windigipet train software and is integrated in the programmed route options. It uses data from the track occupation messages to define if the train is approaching the RR-crossing and/or has passed. The system works for all 3 tracks and in any direction, as long as still one train is expected on one of the tracks the RR-crossing gates stay closed. The train software gives an output command to a 4-fold DCC decoder with bi-stable relay outputs. One output activates a relay to power the RR-crossing electronic controls and sound system. And another output creates a trigger signal to a Faller Traffic Controller decoder to tell the car system control program the RR-crossing is going to close or open. In the Faller software program the RR-crossing gates/barrier are treated as a virtual traffic light.
The DCC cars are controlled by Faller Car System 3.0 which uses an indoor satellite system to identify the position of each car on the road and gives commands using RF. The position of the gates is known in 3D coordinates by the satellite system. The cars are stopping if they approach the RR-crossing within a certain distance.
The gates/barrier need 6-7 seconds to drop or raise, which needs to be accounted for in both train and car software programs. I programmed a 5 seconds delay for trains leaving the very nearby station to allow the gate to close. Likewise when the gate/barrier gets command to raise (open) the cars are programmed to wait 7 seconds before pulling off. These timings I have defined experimental.
A big risk is cars getting stuck on the RR-crossing itself and then being destroyed by a model train at speed. (yes, the model train wins). I solved this by writing a small program logic in FCS 3.0 that only allows a car to pass the RR-crossing when sufficient space is at other side. Similar to avoid cars hitting a dropping gate/barrier or accidental stop under the gate and block it, I programmed a "non-stop" special zone. When a car is in that zone it will not stop if the RR-gates are going to close, but drive-on. Like in reality. The program also allows multiple cars to queue for a closed gate.
And working brake lighs, too! Very realistic!
Also left and right indicators are funtional.
A great model. Thank you for sharing it with us.
My pleasure
Ok seeing the vehicles and the crossing that just looks good.
Thank you
My Goodness!! This is... obscene!!! 😄😄 Everything SO perfect!! Congratulations!!❤❤
Thank you !!!
@@HaSaKoh0Modelrailroad😊😊❤❤
Fantastic ! Great lookin set.
Thank you 👍👍
Sieht echt super aus. Besonders, dass es ein bisschen uneben ist. Dadurch wirkt es noch Realistischer. Top!
Vielen Dank Swen. Die uneben effect is auch wegen dass mitten gleiss 30 graden hat mit die fahrstrasse und so die auto-radern nicht gleichzeitig uber dass gleiss fahren.
Excellent!
Pleased to hear you like it.
Ive never seen this before! Absolutely insane! Awesome!!
Thank you
This is an awesome layout! 👍
Thank you for the compliment.
@@HaSaKoh0Modelrailroad it’s well earned! 😊
that is pretty sick well done
Thank you George
Fantastic !!
Thanks
Glück Auf,
sehr schön!👍
Eventually, we will be able to construct small tiny cities that will operate on their own independent power grid.
Well as I have solar panels on my house roof, die model railroad is often powered by my own grit.
Tip Top 💪👀🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Thank you Kurt.
How do they get the vehicles to move on their own that way??!!??
The vehicles follow a wire in the road. They have their own battery, motor and controls and a small receiver and controller. Through radiofrequency signals they receive i nstructions to start, stop, slow down, and more... A series of mini satellites under the ceiling of the room control the position of each vehicle ( sort of gps system). All is controlled through a computer program. High Tech. :-)
pretty sure it's Magnorail, there's a magnetic track under the road that pulls the car on a set route
@@davidnissim589HaSaKoh0Modelrailroad said the trucks habe their own batteries.... so no magnetic chain unterneath the road...
@@davidnissim589Its not a magnorail, even if he didn't explain it you would know it was not a magnorail because the trucks don't stop at the same time.
@@HaSaKoh0Modelrailroadi thought it was rc
First class!
Awesome video
Thank you.
Incredible ❤😅
appreciated. I need your support if you have more document on this case
What information you are looking for ???
@@HaSaKoh0Modelrailroad would you put your email here?
Just too cool!
Perfect
Hi. Very good video.
Thank you so much
Very cool.
Awesome
Thank you
Hoi Han, das toppie, indrukwekkend, all just on schedule, nice
Dank je Jan.
👍👍 well done!
Thank you
You win....
NEW SUB very good
awesome
Thanks
Thanks a lot for this clear explanation about what's goin on your layout. Faller CS 3.0 looks a bit hard to install. Do you advice this system to a beginner?
Erdal I do not advise this to a beginner. It is also horrible expensive. I suggest to start with a conventional FCS system. This can always be converted to FCS 3.0. I ran a conventional system for 10 years and then converted to 3.0
Nice models. I wonder how you did with those cars.
To be honest the car models as shown in this video are all purchased "as build functional models". The traffic rules and electronics around the RR-crossing are programmed by myself in a software program. This winter I have started to "automate/digitalize" cars myself, but these are not in this video.
@@HaSaKoh0Modelrailroad I see.
Hehe! At 1:11 the second truck doesn't stop before the barrier! If a train comes the barrier will hit it and maybe the train will run into it! It's so close to the tracks...
You are fully correct. Well spotted. 👍.The truck stopped a few cm too late.
This video was made in Jan 2021 and meanwhile I made many small improvements to the software program in Car System to ensure the second car stops a few cm in-front of the barrier incase it will closes again. I learned that not every vehicle stops exactly at the same spot, because it depends how long it takes that it receives the stop RF signal. based on its 3D satellite position. Especially the more vehicles are operated on the layout the command signal intervals can take more time. Signals are send in sequence to each vehicle, never at same time. This can worse case cause a delay up to 100 msec. So I added a bigger safety margin, but now sometimes a second car stops a few cm too early.
@@HaSaKoh0Modelrailroad :-) You'd need onboard AI to determine where to stop, with a little camera to identify the stop positions. You'll be the next Tesla! HO Tesla!
😂😂 What's looks today impossible, might be tomorrow´s reality
super schön
Vielen Dank. Ich habe auch ein Instagram site : HaSaKo_ho_modellbahn
Just a question did you make this your self or did you buy the level crossing?
Everything you see on the crossing is self-made (except the cars). The crossing lights and barrier are self-made not by me, but by a modelrailroad colleague.
i would love to learn how to do this on my layout
Well, technically it was not so easy, because 2 software programs (car and train) had somehow to communicate with each other and with the electronics of the barrier system. Especially the 7 seconds delay before the barrier is fully open and the cars can move on was a big challenge. So, you would need some basic knowledge of electronic components and programming. It took me a few months to get it working as in the video.
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Very good beutiful.
Thank you Pascual
Hey man jm looking to make a layout like this myself just wondering what vehicles and software do yoy use for this looks super cool!
The vehicles and software are from Faller Car System Digital 3.0
Did you guys buy the vehicles or did you make them yourself?/2 how come I see no cars driving just buses and trucks
First of all there is only 1 guy !! The trucks and busses are purchased from Faller.
The technology does not fit in a car yet .
Ok thank you
are the cars and trucks automatic? if so have you ever had them get stuck on the tracks when a train is coming?
Yes, they are automatic and controlled by software program. It rarely happens, but they can accidentally stop on the railroad track.
@@HaSaKoh0Modelrailroad thats so cool, id love to have cars driving around my layout, but being both n scale and not having any complete roads, it just wouldn't work
Indeed in N-scale this is today not available. But I have seen selfmade N-scale car systems. As to the complete roads.
I introduced the car system on my existing layout 15 years ago and I had to modify all the roads to fit the system. It also took me many years before I could finish a complete loop and the cars could run around.
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Hello there! Can you program this on a Viesmann Carmotion system? Would they recognise other obstacles like a barrier or would it be more complex than that? Thanks
@@mrengineer1234 You can certainly program Viessmann cars to stop for the barrier. For Viessmann it’s a matter of putting enough sensors in the road. The tricky thing is to add the waiting timer for the cars to wait till he barrier is fully upwards which can take 5-7 seconds.
@@HaSaKoh0Modelrailroad thank you for your answer! what kind of sensors tho? I thought Viesmann is much simpler and works only with magnets for now...doesn't need motors like FCS, etc...
@@mrengineer1234You Will need to ask Viessmann.
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Almost an example in HO of the real world really frustrating
Un train peut en cacher un autre
Was there ever an accident where a vehicle would get stuck on the train tracks and then get hit by a train?
Next thing you know, you'll have people walking. That'll really freak me out.
No panic, there are over 1000 people on my model railroad, but I can assure you they are firmly glued in position..
How did you bild it
If you open the text page under the video, you will find a complete description how it is build.
also, where did you buy these barriers from?
These are custom made for me by a Modelrailroader.
How you get the vehicles to move and stop at the red light?
Its all computer controlled. The vehicles position are tracked real time by an indoor satellite positioning system. Each vehicle communicates with radio signals to the computer. All the roads and crossings are programmed in the computer. If the software program detects the car to approach a red light, then it slows down the vehicle and stops.
@@HaSaKoh0Modelrailroad How do I get it? I want one, I'm building an O-Scale city.
@@deyontecoleman2163 www.car-system-digital.de/
Wonder if a vehicle ever got stuck on the RR crossing and good hit by a train.
Very rarely !! And I have an emergency stop button for all trains.
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オランダ製とドイツ製
These "gates" are better and more commonly known as "barriers". 😏
Indeed that's correct. In Europe, where we use British English the word "barrier" is more common, while in American English the word "gate" is more common. I have updated the description by using more both wording to accommodate all readers across the world.
The bus had a close call
That is because there is a delay between vehicles of upto 1 minute when each vehicle receives the signals by RF and knows its position.
Where can we buy one of these kits they look great
These are custom made and not for sale through shops.
zelfs de rem lichten holy
Heel mooi! Waar is die spoorwegovergang van?
Die is hand-gemaakt door een collega modelbouwer in opdracht.
www.modelspoorseinen.nl
Nederlands railroad crossing
Can you help me with it please I have a project on it
What is exactly your problem to solve ??
I was asked to make a model of Rail Crossing and show the design on Breadboard and Arduino
@@JayArr10 I understand. But I am sorry, but I cannot help you here. This RR-Crossing does not use Arduino, but is programmed in WinDiGiPet software for trains and Faller Car System software for the car part.
Ohh okay thanks for your time
How did you build that?
Can you be more specific with your question ?? Not sure what you wish to know ??
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Whats the name of the company who made this crossing gates ?
You cannot buy these in any shop, they are custom made by another modelrailroader.
Dutch Trains Crossings That
The railroad crossing equipment is dutch modelled for what we call a "half" closure system. Only the road to the RR crossing is closed. There are also systems with beams which cross the road fully over the width of the road..
Ok
Imagine if it was real 💀
Is this n scale orho scale
HO scale
@@HaSaKoh0Modelrailroad cool 😎
make a train crash video
Look at my video posted a few years ago ua-cam.com/video/paVnjwa5zCc/v-deo.html
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Teach me please
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