The best thing for oilers and Kane would for Kane to have surgery and come back healthy for playoffs. Frees up much needed cap space and gets back player for playoffs who can be a difference maker
Put Kane on LTIR after preseason. Trade Ceci at the trade deadline in a cap dump move. Make other moves if necessary. Activate Kane after the trade deadline when we have the space to add him to the roster.
Doesn't Kane have a No-Trade in his contract? Why would he want to move and not get a chance to win the Cup? I do not see Kane going anywhere and why would you want him gone? A needed player in the playoffs.
I don't want Kane gone. He's a good player and his physicality is needed. However, the cap problem is real and someone has to go. Possibly Ceci, but he won't be enough. Kane has a large chunk of cap and his production doesn't measure up to his cap hit. If he can be persuaded to waive the no-trade clause it may be necessary to let him go.
Cap isn't a problem. Much ado about nothing. Perry, Ryan, Stecher, J Brown, Carrick can all be waived. Trade Mcleod and put Kaner on LTIR. No sweat its not urgent they can afford to shop for a deal that makes sense.
@@RustyM80right now we are over the cap by 2.452 million with Broberg and Holloway to be resigned. So ultimately we will need 4.8 to 5:million just to get under the cap. So we need to move players for pics, and not take on extra salary for this year.
I think that 'Clouder was distracted this year. If you watch the mini bio on Marner's dad, you'll see that the 'Clouder fam is pretty tight and his bro is prolly done with hockey....
When injured, it's disappointing because of what Evander brings to the rink. When he's healthy, he's the guy you want because of what he brings to the rink, and especially for the playoff push. In his first partial season, he was a smoke show in the Post. Hammering bodies, making plays, and sniping goals. If he's legit needing to properly heal, fn eh, the Oilers have enough going as was proven in the cup final to play elite competitive hockey without Kane for a few months. Now with the re-signings and added guys, it leaves little room to doubt they'll be able to handle his absence. Nurse trade before Kane, but that's an almost impossible move at the current cap hit, and as decent as Cici is, there's room for improvement. Agree, McLeod is a decent player, but he doesn't hit and his productivity is questionable. A lot of the time he rolls into the offensive zone and then gives it away. I question his view of the ice. A McLeod/Cici move could be interesting.
Jeff Jackson isn't stupid and he probably already has a plan to make this roster cap compliant. We just don't know what he has planned yet. A lot of people suggest to move Kane to LTIR, but then what if he's healthy 30-40 games into the season? If he trades Ceci and sends Joshua Brown down then they could resign Broberg and Holloway, but after that they don't have the cap room for another bottom pair defenseman and its probably best to leave Stecher as a 7th defenseman. Its a whole debate if they should trade Kane as on one hand his stats are not great without playing with Mcdavid and Draisaitl and there is not much room for him in the top six. but on the other hand there is an argument saying his physicality and play is valuable in the playoffs, and Kanes stats could be brought down because he was playing with a sports hernia. Trading Mcloud and sending Joshua Brown down makes the oilers cap compliant but then they don't have room to sign Holloway and Broberg. There is no real clear solution to this cap madness but im sure Jackson has something planned of is currently planning something.
Kane when he is on top of his game; is a hard guy to replace. Had he not been sliced on his hand , then after the dirty check he took hurt his hip and had a hernia from over extended activity , those are hard injuries . of course he couldn't play a full season . what a stupid thing to quote for a reason to give up on him . he scores more hat tricks in the playoffs then every oiler on the bench for easy 7 years . he scores more then 80% of the rest of the team . WE NEED TO KEEP HIM PERIOD . EVERYTHING ELSE IS NONSENSE EXCUSES TO FREE UP CAP SPACE. GET RID OF NURSE AS HE HURTS THE TEAM FARM MORE THEN HELPS AND COSTS 9.5 A YEAR. KANE HURT PLAYS BETTER THEN NURSE HEALTHY
I don't understand why people say that Ceci should be traded...in my opinion, Ceci has been a good and reliable defenseman - as evidenced by the fact that he played important penalty-killing and late-game minutes throughout the playoffs.
The problem with Kane is he has been bumped down to the 4th line. With no pk time either how is Kane supposed to get ice time to justify his $5+ million a year salary?? Can you see Evander accepting playing 8-10 minutes a game?? I can’t. He’s still a 2nd line winger on 90% of the NHL teams. Just not this team. We’ve advanced too far. McLeod is still very young & getting him to accept 4th line duties & try to play his way up the roster depth chart is a more reasonable request than asking a 32yr old veteran to do that.
Couldnt they renegotiate Nurse term and make him a life time Oiler?...Stretch out the current 6 years remaining to 12 years and make his cap hit $4,650,000? Is this possible?.
Maybe a package for Ceci and McLeod for a semi-decent RHD (2nd or 3rd line coming to mind) would be nice but we'll see. I know McLeod is fast, so is Holloway and he isn't hit adverse. Take care all.
Imagine Adam Larsson coming back with the Oilers and bringing stability to that 2nd pair as a stay-at-home RHD for Nurse. Unlikely but a nice thought 🤞
@@aero6874 With Adam's late father literally dying here there is no way he comes back. While time may heal all wounds (which, on a personal front is a crock of droppings) some things take too much time to be practical. He was an excellent D man for the Oilers who moved on to try and escape the daily pain and I respect that. Take care all.
He's a good player but dressing room poison. I doubt you could find too many people with a good thing to say about him especially his ex wife and the casinos he stiffed. I'm surprised he's still alive.
Kane wants to stay he has built a life in Edmonton and they need his type of play he is by far the toughest power forward hitting and will drop gloves it makes sense Jackson had said kane is apart of roster he needs injury work but he won't waive his no trade he is happy there and is a big part of Edmonton with his charity work if they can get him healthy he would and will be a meness on ice for playoffs why would he want to move he isn't going to get a better chance at a cup and he has been a big part of Edmonton getting to where they are now
As Button said earlier today on TSN, mcleod is the odd man out. Genius . Get rid of him and replace him with a prospect from Bakersfield. Ryan , perry, and prospect is your third line. Janmark henrique brown is your third line.
Kane injured plays a lot better than some oilers healthy they need a healthy Kane power forward scoring hitting and dropping gloves he was very good in LA kings series playing hurt to sign an aging Perry and not think about keeping Kane who has been a big part of Edmonton being at this place he doesn't want to leave Edmonton he built a new house in many charities he loves the city of Edmonton and Jackson said kane was apart of roster going forward weather hill be off and get healed up and would really help oilers fresh set of legs for playoffs he would be flying just he has earned a spot in Edmonton he has got his life back and it's the most stable he has been since he became an oiler
Edmonton needs a first pass defenceman, someone who can pass the puck out of their end. Not just jam it up the boards and turn it over. A play making defencemen.
the Oilers have a ton of those already. Bouchard, Ekholm, Broberg all fit this description. Nurse and Kulak are decent as well. The worse D at this was Desharnais but he's gone already.
I’m a McLeod fan and would love to see him win a cup with the Oil, that said, I don’t want him wasting his youth on 4th line minutes. Trading him to a rebuild so he can play more minutes and relieving some cap space works for both parties.
With the current additions I think that Ceci and Kulak are tradable and in the front I would trade Ryan and McLeod and possibly Perry. Yes I know that Perry has that veteran experience but at what cost when he doesn't have the production to add to the team.
I think knobs likes McLeod too much to trade him and his say matters. I know it’s about production but he’s a knobs kinda player and was incredible defensively this post and scores big sometimes. hes just is a gamer sometimes. I’d be very upset and surprised if they let him go but I do see what you’re saying and it makes some sense.
I think most Oiler fans would agree with trading McLeod, they need pick(s) too so maybe they recoup one. I kinda feel for Kane, he has the heart and brings what they need but he is a bit overpaid. If there was a third Skinner to be had, I would say get him, just to mess with the play-by-play guys! :p
I feel sorry for Ryan McLeod - we have quite a few players 30ish, he's only 24 isn't he. Good to keep some young players. Hopefully he can improve. McLeod, Holloway on the same line with that speed.
Excellent point. Maybe they will try a 4th line of Holloway, McLeod and zzz to see if those 2 click. One other thing - you have to think that Henrique may not be back after his 2-year contract finishes up. So maybe this gives McLeod a couple of years to figure things out so he can step into the 3rd line center then...
No offence to Nurse, but we wouldn't clear up cap space, we would have to eat half his contract because nobody is going to pay him even close to $9 million.
Been an Oilers fan for years and we made some great moves so far this off season. Amazing. Now we are over populated now in defence and forwards and need some caps space back. Right now we’re over 4.24 over with Broberg and Holloway still to be signed. So call is 4.8 million over the cap. So who do we move? Here’s what I would like to see, to gain cap space and more to have in reserve for next seasons free agent class. I say we move Ceci 3.25, McLeod 2.1, McLeod 900 k and last but not least I say Stetcher or Carrick both strange signings so move one for 775 k for a total of 7.025 with total savings of 2.225 in the bank for the trade deadline next year which we will need and then some. Let’s hope we make some good deals. Kane is a wildcard. Would love to keep him healthy for the playoffs and will definitely help us, or try and move him when healthy? The team has some things to think about but this is a great time to move on from McLeod.
To sign a slow Perry and not do what's best for kane he doesn't want to leave Edmonton he has so much good going on with the city and there is no one in the roster that's a power forward hitting scoring and drop gloves when needed kane is a need keep all sports channels said at beginning of playoffs oilers need a healthy Kane if they want to win cup he played first series against LA kings and was pretty good even though injured his G Howe hat trick getting browned his first goal after predicting it before game and big hits leading to goals against kings Driasiatle said those goals were all Kane causing shit with his hits and causing takeaways leading to goals Jackson said kane is apart of roster going forward wether hill recover and come back for playoffs would be great a healthy fresh set of legs would be such a benifet as kane is a complete all around player
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The best thing for oilers and Kane would for Kane to have surgery and come back healthy for playoffs. Frees up much needed cap space and gets back player for playoffs who can be a difference maker
Yes we owe him that. Try him next playoffs. Make or break.
Put Kane on LTIR after preseason. Trade Ceci at the trade deadline in a cap dump move. Make other moves if necessary. Activate Kane after the trade deadline when we have the space to add him to the roster.
Doesn't Kane have a No-Trade in his contract? Why would he want to move and not get a chance to win the Cup? I do not see Kane going anywhere and why would you want him gone? A needed player in the playoffs.
I don't want Kane gone. He's a good player and his physicality is needed. However, the cap problem is real and someone has to go. Possibly Ceci, but he won't be enough. Kane has a large chunk of cap and his production doesn't measure up to his cap hit. If he can be persuaded to waive the no-trade clause it may be necessary to let him go.
Cap isn't a problem. Much ado about nothing. Perry, Ryan, Stecher, J Brown, Carrick can all be waived. Trade Mcleod and put Kaner on LTIR. No sweat its not urgent they can afford to shop for a deal that makes sense.
We need a healthy Evander Kane.
It's says March 1 he gives a 16 team trade list.
BTW I wouldn't trade him, think they need his toughness for the playoffs.
@@RustyM80right now we are over the cap by 2.452 million with Broberg and Holloway to be resigned. So ultimately we will need 4.8 to 5:million just to get under the cap. So we need to move players for pics, and not take on extra salary for this year.
Hopefully, Kane can have a bounce back season, 24 goals is still good, but McLeod has been a big disappointment
I think that 'Clouder was distracted this year. If you watch the mini bio on Marner's dad, you'll see that the 'Clouder fam is pretty tight and his bro is prolly done with hockey....
When injured, it's disappointing because of what Evander brings to the rink. When he's healthy, he's the guy you want because of what he brings to the rink, and especially for the playoff push. In his first partial season, he was a smoke show in the Post. Hammering bodies, making plays, and sniping goals. If he's legit needing to properly heal, fn eh, the Oilers have enough going as was proven in the cup final to play elite competitive hockey without Kane for a few months. Now with the re-signings and added guys, it leaves little room to doubt they'll be able to handle his absence. Nurse trade before Kane, but that's an almost impossible move at the current cap hit, and as decent as Cici is, there's room for improvement. Agree, McLeod is a decent player, but he doesn't hit and his productivity is questionable. A lot of the time he rolls into the offensive zone and then gives it away. I question his view of the ice. A McLeod/Cici move could be interesting.
Kane idea is actually a good one on LTIR until March , worked for Vegas year after year
Jeff Jackson isn't stupid and he probably already has a plan to make this roster cap compliant. We just don't know what he has planned yet. A lot of people suggest to move Kane to LTIR, but then what if he's healthy 30-40 games into the season? If he trades Ceci and sends Joshua Brown down then they could resign Broberg and Holloway, but after that they don't have the cap room for another bottom pair defenseman and its probably best to leave Stecher as a 7th defenseman. Its a whole debate if they should trade Kane as on one hand his stats are not great without playing with Mcdavid and Draisaitl and there is not much room for him in the top six. but on the other hand there is an argument saying his physicality and play is valuable in the playoffs, and Kanes stats could be brought down because he was playing with a sports hernia. Trading Mcloud and sending Joshua Brown down makes the oilers cap compliant but then they don't have room to sign Holloway and Broberg. There is no real clear solution to this cap madness but im sure Jackson has something planned of is currently planning something.
Kanes grit is needed in thw playoffs...he helped wear down LA and Dallas.. can't imagine the Oilers without him.
That’s why we got the other Brown.
Kane when he is on top of his game; is a hard guy to replace. Had he not been sliced on his hand , then after the dirty check he took hurt his hip and had a hernia from over extended activity , those are hard injuries . of course he couldn't play a full season .
what a stupid thing to quote for a reason to give up on him . he scores more hat tricks in the playoffs then every oiler on the bench for easy 7 years . he scores more then 80% of the rest of the team .
WE NEED TO KEEP HIM PERIOD . EVERYTHING ELSE IS NONSENSE EXCUSES TO FREE UP CAP SPACE. GET RID OF NURSE AS HE HURTS THE TEAM FARM MORE THEN HELPS AND COSTS 9.5 A YEAR.
KANE HURT PLAYS BETTER THEN NURSE HEALTHY
McCloud I don't think threw a single hit in the playoffs. Ship him to Columbus that's there style!
Where players go to hide.
GET RID of the WHOLE TEAM, STARTING WITH MCDAVID. And START OVER
Kane on LTIR - do you really think he will be that for the whole season? I would trade him, I think he is past his best.
Hope they can work it out, the Oilers need some toughness. Hopefully he heals from whatevers bothering him.
I think we need to move in from the McLeod experiment. He’s shown flashes but always reverts back to being a soft but fast player.
I don't understand why people say that Ceci should be traded...in my opinion, Ceci has been a good and reliable defenseman - as evidenced by the fact that he played important penalty-killing and late-game minutes throughout the playoffs.
I kinda agree with you but he really doesn't move the needle , not offensive not defensive and not physical, but he just plugs along
Trade Ceci & McLeod
The problem with Kane is he has been bumped down to the 4th line. With no pk time either how is Kane supposed to get ice time to justify his $5+ million a year salary?? Can you see Evander accepting playing 8-10 minutes a game?? I can’t. He’s still a 2nd line winger on 90% of the NHL teams. Just not this team. We’ve advanced too far. McLeod is still very young & getting him to accept 4th line duties & try to play his way up the roster depth chart is a more reasonable request than asking a 32yr old veteran to do that.
Couldnt they renegotiate Nurse term and make him a life time Oiler?...Stretch out the current 6 years remaining to 12 years and make his cap hit $4,650,000? Is this possible?.
Maybe a package for Ceci and McLeod for a semi-decent RHD (2nd or 3rd line coming to mind) would be nice but we'll see. I know McLeod is fast, so is Holloway and he isn't hit adverse. Take care all.
Imagine Adam Larsson coming back with the Oilers and bringing stability to that 2nd pair as a stay-at-home RHD for Nurse. Unlikely but a nice thought 🤞
@@aero6874 With Adam's late father literally dying here there is no way he comes back. While time may heal all wounds (which, on a personal front is a crock of droppings) some things take too much time to be practical. He was an excellent D man for the Oilers who moved on to try and escape the daily pain and I respect that. Take care all.
McLeod has great speed but he's not a finisher. His game is soft for playoff hockey. He should bulk up. I'm not 100 % on this guy and his style
He's a good player but dressing room poison. I doubt you could find too many people with a good thing to say about him especially his ex wife and the casinos he stiffed. I'm surprised he's still alive.
Kane wants to stay he has built a life in Edmonton and they need his type of play he is by far the toughest power forward hitting and will drop gloves it makes sense Jackson had said kane is apart of roster he needs injury work but he won't waive his no trade he is happy there and is a big part of Edmonton with his charity work if they can get him healthy he would and will be a meness on ice for playoffs why would he want to move he isn't going to get a better chance at a cup and he has been a big part of Edmonton getting to where they are now
Why does Kane keep coming up he isn't going anywhere we need him healthy that's it ryan or Cody or both should be the ones to be going I'd think 🤔
What's with all this Kane talk poor dude has had a rough go leave him be clouder can go in my opinion and maybe Cody
Please trade Kane and Kulak. Often make mistakes giving up the puck.
As Button said earlier today on TSN, mcleod is the odd man out. Genius . Get rid of him and replace him with a prospect from Bakersfield. Ryan , perry, and prospect is your third line. Janmark henrique brown is your third line.
I doubt anyone gambles on an injured Kane. LTIR for sure.
Kane injured plays a lot better than some oilers healthy they need a healthy Kane power forward scoring hitting and dropping gloves he was very good in LA kings series playing hurt to sign an aging Perry and not think about keeping Kane who has been a big part of Edmonton being at this place he doesn't want to leave Edmonton he built a new house in many charities he loves the city of Edmonton and Jackson said kane was apart of roster going forward weather hill be off and get healed up and would really help oilers fresh set of legs for playoffs he would be flying just he has earned a spot in Edmonton he has got his life back and it's the most stable he has been since he became an oiler
Clouder is giving me bison king vibes unfortunately
McLeod can’t be centre, plays way better on the wing
Mcleod is Terrible.
Edmonton needs a first pass defenceman, someone who can pass the puck out of their end. Not just jam it up the boards and turn it over.
A play making defencemen.
the Oilers have a ton of those already. Bouchard, Ekholm, Broberg all fit this description. Nurse and Kulak are decent as well. The worse D at this was Desharnais but he's gone already.
Honestly if they could flip it out of the zone our forwards are good enough to pick up a lot of those pucks and make something happen.
Utah will be prime trade partner they have a ton of cap
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McLeod is a decent winger for $2M
I’m a McLeod fan and would love to see him win a cup with the Oil, that said, I don’t want him wasting his youth on 4th line minutes. Trading him to a rebuild so he can play more minutes and relieving some cap space works for both parties.
With the current additions I think that Ceci and Kulak are tradable and in the front I would trade Ryan and McLeod and possibly Perry. Yes I know that Perry has that veteran experience but at what cost when he doesn't have the production to add to the team.
They’ll want the cap space at trade deadline if they’re not planning maxing their LTIR so it would be nice to be cap compliant than over
I think knobs likes McLeod too much to trade him and his say matters. I know it’s about production but he’s a knobs kinda player and was incredible defensively this post and scores big sometimes. hes just is a gamer sometimes. I’d be very upset and surprised if they let him go but I do see what you’re saying and it makes some sense.
I think most Oiler fans would agree with trading McLeod, they need pick(s) too so maybe they recoup one. I kinda feel for Kane, he has the heart and brings what they need but he is a bit overpaid.
If there was a third Skinner to be had, I would say get him, just to mess with the play-by-play guys! :p
Most people said Kane signed a very team-friendly deal and you think he's overpaid? I guess it all depends on his productivity.
See comments on mcloud and Ryan. They didn’t mind our almost perfect pk
Your reading my mind
I feel sorry for Ryan McLeod - we have quite a few players 30ish, he's only 24 isn't he. Good to keep some young players. Hopefully he can improve. McLeod, Holloway on the same line with that speed.
Excellent point. Maybe they will try a 4th line of Holloway, McLeod and zzz to see if those 2 click. One other thing - you have to think that Henrique may not be back after his 2-year contract finishes up. So maybe this gives McLeod a couple of years to figure things out so he can step into the 3rd line center then...
Welcome to the Edmonton over 30 club , good luck 🤞
Another d-man please
Nurse & McCloud for cap space
Why would nurse agree
No offence to Nurse, but we wouldn't clear up cap space, we would have to eat half his contract because nobody is going to pay him even close to $9 million.
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Cece is a solid Dman. Just dont play him with Nurse ever again.
Other way around!
Ceci can't get that money playing on our third line pairing nope get him gone.
kyle : neither Ceci nor Nurse are assets - they are BOTH LIABILITIES for real
Edmonton needs a new starting goalie. Skinner is brutal.
That's rough to say about a goalie that made the finals in his sophomore year after breaking some Grant Fuhr records
@@Dr.Acula76 and giving up the worst possible goal to lose game 7 and the cup
@bardownsnipe The tip-in that no goalie would have had, or the great shot from a 57 goal scorer after being hung out to dry by Kulak?
@@Dr.Acula76exactly, for a guy in his second yr in the nhl to game 7… edmonton finally has there goalie!!
@marcodestefanis5976 Hey look, somebody gets it
They're 2.5 over the cap. McLeod isn't enough. Kane might be gone
Been an Oilers fan for years and we made some great moves so far this off season. Amazing. Now we are over populated now in defence and forwards and need some caps space back. Right now we’re over 4.24 over with Broberg and Holloway still to be signed. So call is 4.8 million over the cap. So who do we move? Here’s what I would like to see, to gain cap space and more to have in reserve for next seasons free agent class. I say we move Ceci 3.25, McLeod 2.1, McLeod 900 k and last but not least I say Stetcher or Carrick both strange signings so move one for 775 k for a total of 7.025 with total savings of 2.225 in the bank for the trade deadline next year which we will need and then some. Let’s hope we make some good deals. Kane is a wildcard. Would love to keep him healthy for the playoffs and will definitely help us, or try and move him when healthy? The team has some things to think about but this is a great time to move on from McLeod.
To sign a slow Perry and not do what's best for kane he doesn't want to leave Edmonton he has so much good going on with the city and there is no one in the roster that's a power forward hitting scoring and drop gloves when needed kane is a need keep all sports channels said at beginning of playoffs oilers need a healthy Kane if they want to win cup he played first series against LA kings and was pretty good even though injured his G Howe hat trick getting browned his first goal after predicting it before game and big hits leading to goals against kings Driasiatle said those goals were all Kane causing shit with his hits and causing takeaways leading to goals Jackson said kane is apart of roster going forward wether hill recover and come back for playoffs would be great a healthy fresh set of legs would be such a benifet as kane is a complete all around player
Josh brown will easily fill pilon cecis position. Get him outta here
Ryan Mcloud is awful why keep him around way to soft
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Get rid of mcleod too