High nitrates,high light and phosphates detectable. My tank 15-30 nitrates with high par sps/mixed tank and phosphates below .30 my tank is looking best its been in along time with 15ish nitrates and .57 phosphates
Great topic, and thanks for sharing March, running nitrates 5ppm, and phosphates at 0.03ppm using reeffactory smart phosphate tester. I have disable algae on rocks, but it is low amounts.
Really interesting to see that result - did you test it again with the Hanna Checker to see if just that reading was off? Sometimes fingerprints on the glass sample can cause reading issues. I run my tank at 0.04 phosphates and 4ppm Nitrates. I recently did a big clean out of my sump and a 20% water change and my Nitrates zeroed out and were undetectable. My euphyllias (Hammers and Frogspawn) shrivelled up and were not happy, as soon as the Nitrates got back to 3-4ppm they were great again so thats what I keep it at now
If no3 is undetectable then po4 will not naturally drop, there needs to be no3. I would retest and then double check with an 2nd test kit. Also make sure you are using the correct Hanna reagent, there are a few po4 reagents for the different checkers.
@@Tanky141 It's also not true / based on limited knowledge and understanding. Ammonia, urea and nitrite are also used by phosphate absorbing organisms. So it's too simple to say you need NO3...
@@noahray5319 You're still too simple. That's only based on some algal uptake. Bacteria, corals, simple algaes etc are all capable of using other sources of nitrogen than nitrate. Redfield ratio is shit, you cannot use it as an argument for anything in reef tanks. Besides, denitrification through anaerobic respiration or assimilation is not dependant on P and doesn't consume C. Also read it in the context of the thread...
Low NO3 + High PO4 promotes bacteria bloom and that could have been the reason of your cloudy water. I had NO3 at 3 and PO4 at 0.40 and I lost both my torches. This situation can cause brown jelly in euphillia and montipora also hate it. I noticed both my torches started slowly closing more and more each day until brown jelly set in 😭 IMO minimum ratio of NO3 to PO4 is 10:1 but even all the way to 100:1 is fine, I would fix the nutrient ratio asap
I'm literally going through the same thing, my phosphates are sitting at 0.40 and my torches aren't looking too good😭 slapped on my gfo reactor hoping things go back to normal
@@imranzaman5938 test also your salinity, torches do not like high salinity, gfo is probably the best course of action but I wouldn't bring it below 0.10 for now, I stopped having any negative effects as soon as po4 got around 0.20. Now my fuge is growing well so po4 is at 0.05, good times, high phosphates are definitely not good for coral
High PO4 maybe related to cloudy water/snail or coral spawning event you had recently? That’s a lot of protein released at one time... 🤔. That’s what she said...🙄
I like nitrates at 5-10ppm, and phosphates 0.03 to 0.10. I dose nitrates to keep them there. I use RowaPhos to keep phosphates low, and when they are too low I change some of my meat feedings to pellet/flake feedings to introduce more phosphates. When my nutrients go undetectable, that's when I get DINOS!!!
It’s all about Ratios - being too concerned with an exact number is pretty foolhardy from my own personal experience. Take this with a grain of salt I just service tanks for a living.
Hobby grade test kits are just not accurate. Even worse they can be drastically inconsistent from time to time. Im sure your icp test will show that. The tank looks good that’s the true test.
Realize this is a few year old video, but i have noticed no matter the level of my phosphates, if they shoot up quickly say from .15 to .3 withing a few weeks, torches gree/gold ones in particular suffer. I will see peeling and tissue recession. Sps, other lps, even other fimbriaphyllia don't seem to mind.
I aim for .05-.08, but currently after cleaning out some hidden algae my phosphates have shot up to .14. NO3 is steady @ 3.08. I was researching algae reactors efficiency in PO4 reduction, but according to this video your refugium only seems to eat up NO3. Hmmm....
Im struggling to find definitive study on how much nitrate mixed reefs consume.i dosed upto 8ppm yesterday & today down to 3ppm.that seems high consumption?reefer 170 mixed reef with euphyllia, monti & large kenya tree predominantly & some zoa's & chalice
What ever came out of this? My tank is running .3 po4 and 3 no3 been trying to lower phosphate to get into sps corals and everytime I start running GFO I start losing euphyllia. Im at a loss don't know what to try next...
I don’t believe this. My friends tried to convince me of the same so I bought a different kit and got the exact same reading. I’ve double checked them as I reduced and both test kits followed the Po4 down.
0.5 phosphate is way high. Judging by the look of your Corals, I would say the reading is inaccurate. I would guess 0.05 it's most likely the actual reading again Judging by the look of your corals.
I would leave it alone as long as there is no algae the corals will eat up that phosphate.. I’m going to run a higher nutrient tank this time around with my new nano .. seems like that’s the direction the hobby is headed... too clean is no good. And I would trust the Hanna if you checked it twice.
@@fragboxcorals The tank you put in Chemclean connected to the full system? I used Chemclean and next day, clowd and than cleared up one day after on its own
Hey March ,did an icp test with you guys with icp analysis and phosphorus is 455.19 ppb but my phospate reads zero with Hanna checker.no clue what to follow lol 🤷♂️
High nitrates,high light and phosphates detectable. My tank 15-30 nitrates with high par sps/mixed tank and phosphates below .30 my tank is looking best its been in along time with 15ish nitrates and .57 phosphates
Today I tested phophates and I got scared bc the Hanna said I’m at 0.56 so is this a good number to keep??
Great topic, and thanks for sharing March, running nitrates 5ppm, and phosphates at 0.03ppm using reeffactory smart phosphate tester. I have disable algae on rocks, but it is low amounts.
I run nitrate at 10ppm and phosphate at 0.05-.1ppm in a 180 mixed
It could be high but visual cues are not always immediate.
So what ended up being the problem? And how did you solve this issue? Thank you love the Chanel 👍🏻
There not going to tell us peasants
Really interesting to see that result - did you test it again with the Hanna Checker to see if just that reading was off? Sometimes fingerprints on the glass sample can cause reading issues. I run my tank at 0.04 phosphates and 4ppm Nitrates. I recently did a big clean out of my sump and a 20% water change and my Nitrates zeroed out and were undetectable. My euphyllias (Hammers and Frogspawn) shrivelled up and were not happy, as soon as the Nitrates got back to 3-4ppm they were great again so thats what I keep it at now
If no3 is undetectable then po4 will not naturally drop, there needs to be no3. I would retest and then double check with an 2nd test kit. Also make sure you are using the correct Hanna reagent, there are a few po4 reagents for the different checkers.
Never heard anyone say this. I’ve never has nitrates detectable but always had detectable phos.
@@Tanky141 It's also not true / based on limited knowledge and understanding. Ammonia, urea and nitrite are also used by phosphate absorbing organisms. So it's too simple to say you need NO3...
@@TattooedDancer91 not been my experience. I dose nitrate to drop drop my phosphate or my chaeto won't suck it up.
@@noahray5319 You're still too simple. That's only based on some algal uptake. Bacteria, corals, simple algaes etc are all capable of using other sources of nitrogen than nitrate. Redfield ratio is shit, you cannot use it as an argument for anything in reef tanks. Besides, denitrification through anaerobic respiration or assimilation is not dependant on P and doesn't consume C. Also read it in the context of the thread...
Low NO3 + High PO4 promotes bacteria bloom and that could have been the reason of your cloudy water.
I had NO3 at 3 and PO4 at 0.40 and I lost both my torches. This situation can cause brown jelly in euphillia and montipora also hate it.
I noticed both my torches started slowly closing more and more each day until brown jelly set in 😭
IMO minimum ratio of NO3 to PO4 is 10:1 but even all the way to 100:1 is fine, I would fix the nutrient ratio asap
I'm literally going through the same thing, my phosphates are sitting at 0.40 and my torches aren't looking too good😭 slapped on my gfo reactor hoping things go back to normal
@@imranzaman5938 test also your salinity, torches do not like high salinity, gfo is probably the best course of action but I wouldn't bring it below 0.10 for now, I stopped having any negative effects as soon as po4 got around 0.20. Now my fuge is growing well so po4 is at 0.05, good times, high phosphates are definitely not good for coral
High PO4 maybe related to cloudy water/snail or coral spawning event you had recently? That’s a lot of protein released at one time... 🤔. That’s what she said...🙄
I like nitrates at 5-10ppm, and phosphates 0.03 to 0.10. I dose nitrates to keep them there. I use RowaPhos to keep phosphates low, and when they are too low I change some of my meat feedings to pellet/flake feedings to introduce more phosphates. When my nutrients go undetectable, that's when I get DINOS!!!
Great, I love Dinos. Can I have some?
It’s all about Ratios - being too concerned with an exact number is pretty foolhardy from my own personal experience. Take this with a grain of salt I just service tanks for a living.
Hobby grade test kits are just not accurate. Even worse they can be drastically inconsistent from time to time. Im sure your icp test will show that. The tank looks good that’s the true test.
i would say a 1 time high isn't an issue as disasters happen slow and steady in tanks
what did the ICP say
My friend tank po4 is 0.8 and doing well. Sps are growing is crazy
If you're dosing sodium silicate and using a Hanna checker then it will give you a falsely high reading because of the silicates.
For what i understand the higher the nitrates the better the coral is same with phosphate the need nutrients
0.5 😱 wow that's crazy! Corals look great considering. Did you try a fresh packet of reagent just to double check?
yup checked twice
Realize this is a few year old video, but i have noticed no matter the level of my phosphates, if they shoot up quickly say from .15 to .3 withing a few weeks, torches gree/gold ones in particular suffer. I will see peeling and tissue recession. Sps, other lps, even other fimbriaphyllia don't seem to mind.
Same!
I would say no more than 0.1 for phos and nitrate from 2-20.
O.25 is the sweet spot nitrate 5ppm dkh 9.5 pH 8.4 sps dominate and mushrooms plus hammers
Try a different test kit and let us know.
You are familiar with the Redfied Ratio?
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I aim for .05-.08, but currently after cleaning out some hidden algae my phosphates have shot up to .14. NO3 is steady @ 3.08. I was researching algae reactors efficiency in PO4 reduction, but according to this video your refugium only seems to eat up NO3. Hmmm....
Hi i have po4- 1,0 nad no3- 60. Aquarium si looking good
What’s the update on the high phosphates?
Im struggling to find definitive study on how much nitrate mixed reefs consume.i dosed upto 8ppm yesterday & today down to 3ppm.that seems high consumption?reefer 170 mixed reef with euphyllia, monti & large kenya tree predominantly & some zoa's & chalice
What ever came out of this? My tank is running .3 po4 and 3 no3 been trying to lower phosphate to get into sps corals and everytime I start running GFO I start losing euphyllia. Im at a loss don't know what to try next...
My phosphates are at 1ppm not .1 or .01. 😂 everything looks happy in my tank though
What was the results after you sent the water sample off?
Any update?
Any update?
Smh. Variance could be .9 or .1. Hanna checkers suck. Whole market strategy is a little egg and everyone falls for it
I don’t believe this. My friends tried to convince me of the same so I bought a different kit and got the exact same reading. I’ve double checked them as I reduced and both test kits followed the Po4 down.
0.5 phosphate is way high. Judging by the look of your Corals, I would say the reading is inaccurate. I would guess 0.05 it's most likely the actual reading again Judging by the look of your corals.
I would leave it alone as long as there is no algae the corals will eat up that phosphate.. I’m going to run a higher nutrient tank this time around with my new nano .. seems like that’s the direction the hobby is headed... too clean is no good. And I would trust the Hanna if you checked it twice.
exactly everything doing well , what made us test was the smaller size of the torches
@@fragboxcorals gorgeous tank. Looking forward to the rest of the expensive nano build because I’m on the same path lmaooo
I stay dirty. .2. To .5. Imnatn.44. Corals in mixed 35x18x14. Are nuts.
Any update? Was it high phosphates?
Did you double check it or use a different test kit? I've heard of people getting crazy phosphate readings with the hanna checker.
I keep my phosphates at idk. Lol
going to open new phosphate checker today just to make sure
@@fragboxcorals any updates on if the checker was off?
This is my problems at the moment and I said the same thing about the hannah
My PO4 is running at 3ppb what does that read in ppm ? Is it .003 or .03 thanks everyone !!
Goes to show you not every problem is the same
So... what was the cause of the cloudy water?
still a mystery, thinking snail ?
What caused the cloudiness
never figured it out but cleared up in one day with carbon
@@fragboxcorals The tank you put in Chemclean connected to the full system? I used Chemclean and next day, clowd and than cleared up one day after on its own
I wouldn’t say that is really hi , yes it’s hi but not super hi
1.78 ??????
I have the same issue in my tank atm phosphates are 0.46 and 0 nitrates
Same here! 0.47 and 0 nitrates but coral look great and torch started splitting 🤔
same here but SPS took a dump
bro said i dont trust the hanna tester !!!!! ,.....woowwwww...... thats a first
Hey March ,did an icp test with you guys with icp analysis and phosphorus is 455.19 ppb but my phospate reads zero with Hanna checker.no clue what to follow lol 🤷♂️
Where's the little side track of the day?
lol this entire video was a sidetrack, picked up the camera to shoot a video about a new product when these readings came back
@@fragboxcorals love the sidetracks keep them coming :) p.s. can you ship corals to the UK?
They sneak up on you
just like weight gain :D
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If it looks good leave it alone
very good advice
.5 not high😆😆
I have 3ppm :D