Star Wars KOTOR 2 Atton & Bao Dur Starting Class vs Converting to Jedi | Should You Level Them Up?

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  • @hk-4886
    @hk-4886 3 роки тому +56

    I find bao-dur a lot better as a jedi. He won’t get as many skill points (but still more than enough) and he won’t be able to use many force powers but instead you can turn him into a melee monster as his hp sky rockets once he is a jedi guardian.

  • @Maniac742
    @Maniac742 3 роки тому +18

    You can get both Atton and Bao Dur up to Jedi status on Nar Shadaa alone if you run that planet first. That saves you a fair amount of heart ache, but it does still leave them as woefully underpowered all the way through Telos. Thankfully, Telos is short.

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому +4

      I usually hit Nar Shaddaa first for that reason. Get Atton and Bao Dur converted, get my 2 lightsaber parts and then bounce to another planet and come back towards the end of the game.

    • @Maniac742
      @Maniac742 3 роки тому +3

      @@CatDaddyGaming I just run Nar Shadaa all the way through to get Mira, who also requires Jedi conversion. If you hit the Ebon Hawk up before you get abducted by Visquis, you get Visas as well. That gives you a full complement of teammates. Nar Shadaa also has enough experience to get you to 17, which puts you in prestige range, and that's only one level away from getting the Handmaiden to become a Jedi.

    • @echoesvayne9790
      @echoesvayne9790 3 місяці тому

      I leave atton as a scoundrel until level 17 if I am playing consular because sneak attacks

  • @Oodelally
    @Oodelally 3 роки тому +44

    I always convert them into Jedi! I always prefer melee combat anyway, so I tend not to use blaster class characters. It is also canon to train your companions in your force, at the end on Malachor Kreia mentions that the real lost Jedi were “the friends you made along the way” and that your force sensitive companions will be able to rebuild the order!

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому +12

      I have also noticed it is canon for you to train them all. Read some wiki articles about them rebuilding the Jedi order. Very interesting stuff to read if you enjoy the story of that era.

  • @nanatoto5994
    @nanatoto5994 2 роки тому +10

    I think atton is much better if he is converted relatively late at lvl 17 as he doesnt have enough wis to consistently land force powers on his enemies

  • @user-qd9rg3wy2n
    @user-qd9rg3wy2n 2 роки тому +8

    I always convert Bao-Dur into Jedi it works better narrative wise it helps him cope with his past better

  • @t-machine3427
    @t-machine3427 3 роки тому +7

    Once again, a comment for channel stats. Your videos themselves are great, btw, but I'm kinda nerdy when it comes to game stats and maximizing the perks and all, so I don't believe I really NEED this info, but it's certainly interesting to cross reference my point of view with yours on the topic. :)
    P.S. Honestly, it's hard to screw up your build in this game, lol, but I usually level them up before converting. Atton's sneak attack can annihilate with force speed and Thon's Robe (grant's force jump, which is always considered a sneak attack), and Bao-Dur is, well... Bao-Dur. I usually just put some force and energy resistant armour and he becomes unparalleled when dueling with force wielders, while also retaining his buffed skills from earlier for all the crafting needs.
    P.P.S. May the 4th be with you, all of you, my friends.

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому +2

      As always thank you very much! I certainly agree with you on that. I have seen some playthroughs on UA-cam of people purposefully giving themselves the worst builds and still getting through the game. I rather enjoy the fact the made the game playable even if you have a shit build. It just gets so much more interesting when you build them a certain way and can see your planning and thinking paying off.

    • @rjramun
      @rjramun 2 роки тому +1

      "Bao-Dur is, well... Bao-Dur." Well put, he is definitely a distinctive personality.

  • @MrCosinuus
    @MrCosinuus 2 роки тому +5

    It's difficult to gain influence on Bao-Dur when you're going dark side. Of course you can just loose influence and make him a jedi that way. You can also do it on purpose and make him a designated healer: You're going dark, he's going light and gets cheaper healings.
    Atton has a solo part on Nar Shadda against the two bounty hunters. This fight is my main reason to make Atton a jedi. But you never need Bao-Dur in your party after Telos.
    For Bao-Dur, your own class is also important: If your main PC does not get many skill points, you might prefer keeping him as a tech-expert. You can use your companions for all the skills, but this requires some planing and is easily messed up.
    Also, during the Dxun Freedon-Nadd grave part, you probably want as many jedi in your group as possible. You always have Visas, but Kreia goes to Onderon with your main Charakter. Remaining possible jedi:
    -Atton
    -Mira/Hanharr
    -Brienna / Diciple
    -Bao-Dur
    So even if you went dark side and got Hanharr, you still have Visas, Atton, Brianna/Diciple. You don't need Bao-Dur as a Jedi.
    But you never need Bao-Dur in your party after Telos. Btw. the party leader during the Freedon Nadd part, has to be a Jedi. Maybe because of the two dark side spots you'll find in the grave.

  • @ctwhite6952
    @ctwhite6952 3 роки тому +3

    You have the best KOTOR content on youtube! I would love to see a video on cut items/gear if possible!

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  Рік тому +1

      Well thank you very much. I really appreciate the kind words! That would be a good topic! I will look into this!

  • @lylemoore3827
    @lylemoore3827 2 роки тому +4

    I discovered a fun glitch from an old video on another channel that lets other characters piggy back off of your converted Jedi companions when they're level 0. I converted mandalore with it. Kind of same problem as Bao dur since he can't remove his armor but it's fun to see anyway lol. You can also do it with hk47 but no point because droids don't get force points and still can't equip lightsabers or any melee weapon even with the glitch

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  2 роки тому +1

      I have seen that before back on the old school Xbox version. Fun to do with Han Harr. Yeah pretty weird about HK too cuz he has such crazy Strength it seems like they wanted him to have melee weapons.

  • @leovanhorn3303
    @leovanhorn3303 3 роки тому +4

    Can you make a video about different Mandalore builds? Melee vs ranged, where to put his attribute points, and how best to use his extra implant. You could also cover the best equipment for him similar to how you did HK.
    Thanks for making all these videos. I’ve beaten this game multiple times on vanilla and restored content, but I still learn stuff from your KotOR playlist.

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you very much! I am glad the videos are being useful and helpful. I myself still learn things about this game that I had no idea of. Truly is a masterpiece of a game. They don't make them like they used to lol I will certainly add it to my list and look into making a video like that. I think that would be a very good one to do. About time to move onto the non Jedi characters too. Mandalore is a really near character when you look into his story!

    • @logangustavson
      @logangustavson 2 роки тому +1

      I give Mandore 3 Gamorronean Cleavers because it looks so bad ass on him

  • @MizanQistina
    @MizanQistina 3 роки тому +5

    I do play with non-Jedi companions to the end long time ago, not one of them convert into Jedi...it is interesting :)

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому +4

      My first playthrough was like that until my brother taught me how to convert them. May have to revisit a no Jedi companion playthrough though!

    • @MizanQistina
      @MizanQistina 3 роки тому

      @@CatDaddyGaming They will not be much difference with the droids, but we can heal them with The Force if play as LS. The game could be more challenging because they can't deflect blaster bolts and suck against Jedi. They can melee with Jedi but need a specific build for that.

  • @PhilsAmazingBBQ
    @PhilsAmazingBBQ 3 роки тому +5

    I literally did not know you could convert bao dur to a jedi till now

  • @xriegle
    @xriegle 3 роки тому +4

    My high school had a counselor.. they weren’t a Jedi counselor though

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому

      Lol I made sure to pronounce it Con-sular this time instead of messing it. Maybe I still need more practice pronouncing it!

  • @thedevilhimself1728
    @thedevilhimself1728 2 роки тому +2

    Goddamn I loved Atton. Felt like a real best mate as a kid.

  • @faerielektra
    @faerielektra 3 роки тому +5

    Yes, please do Mira too! 🥺
    Oh, off-topic, did you know that there's a way to choose which are the best companion to go to Freedon Nadd's tomb, based on Kreia's response?

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому +3

      I will certainly look into it! Thinking about doing her and Disciple together since they are both companions you COULD get and not for sure will get. I don't think I know what you are referring to. I am sure Kreia makes some good suggestions but that doesn't take into account how I have built the other companions skill and damage wise.

    • @faerielektra
      @faerielektra 3 роки тому +6

      Oh was referring to Kreia's response in The Mandalorian Outpost of Dxun. You know, each time you mention every companion's name to go to Freedon Nadd's tomb. Kreia said, 1) "Very well," to Visas, 2) "Ah... Good choice," to Bao-Dur, and 3) "Excellent," to Mandalore. I was curious and just went ahead with them. I always choose the Mira-Atton-XXX combination before, despite her disagreement. It turns out Bao-Dur has some code to neutralize the sensor (behind the land mines), Visas could gather more dark side/light side power in the tomb, and Mandalore, well, he helps blast away all hostiles.

  • @beauknergrage3341
    @beauknergrage3341 3 роки тому

    As always, well done and thank you !

  • @INCONTINENS
    @INCONTINENS 3 роки тому +2

    There's big things that'll happen with your channel in the future. Keep up the great work because It will definitely pay off

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you very very much! I really appreciate the kind words! I started a new job so I have been pressed for time lately but I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. I appreciate the support very much! It is all thanks to you guys in the end! :)

  • @kpcofvs911
    @kpcofvs911 2 роки тому

    Thanks for these videos! I appreciate it

  • @dyldobaggins333
    @dyldobaggins333 2 роки тому

    Please upload more kotor 1 & 2 content and just any Star Wars content. I just found your channel and I love it!

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  2 роки тому

      That's the plan, I am working on one now! Thank you very much for the comment, I am very glad you enjoy the content!

  • @kostazarikos3383
    @kostazarikos3383 11 місяців тому +1

    Wait what... oh no i might like these vids alot

  • @MrEntaray
    @MrEntaray 2 роки тому +1

    I Jedify Atton more times than not because I love his story. Maybe I'll do another playthrough soon.

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  2 роки тому +1

      Same here. I enjoy him having the hots for a female main character too. You totally should!! :)

  • @lololol924
    @lololol924 2 роки тому +1

    I like doing a half/half build for Atton. Not really min-maxed but a satisfying build because it allows him to somewhat benefit from his sneak attack while also having access to a few select jedi skills (i use stasis). I buff his wisdom with items, and pump dex and he's fairly self sufficient, the lack of a fully maxed sneak attack can be mitigated by having his lightsaber(s) uber upgraded to compensate.

  • @Aztechaemenid
    @Aztechaemenid Рік тому

    I think i must have 8 completed playthroughs of this game on multiple systems if not more. And to this day I still find it challenging to turn all my companions into Jedi

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  Рік тому

      Once you get the influence spots locked in you can breeze through it. Handmaiden always takes the longest cuz you need to be level 18. For me the hardest part is tip toeing around choices to not loose any influence

  • @imperialwyvern
    @imperialwyvern 3 роки тому +1

    If yer on PC there's a mod that removes the force power restriction for armor wearers. Meaning with that mod Having Bao-Dur wear armor is beneficial.

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому +1

      Oh really?? I haven't heard of that one. I have seen the one that adds Robes specifically for Bao Dur but not that one so I will have to look that one up and check it out.

    • @imperialwyvern
      @imperialwyvern 3 роки тому +2

      @@CatDaddyGaming Yep the mod is called TSL No Force Power Restrictions by Jessie Fett. Here's a link to it in case you can't find it. www.gamefront.com/games/knights-of-the-old-republic-ii/file/tsl-no-force-restrictions This is the mod I use the most.

  • @takeokl3161
    @takeokl3161 3 роки тому

    great video

  • @bestdude2540
    @bestdude2540 3 роки тому +2

    What mods r u using for KotOR 2?

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому

      Check out my Steam Mods and Non Steam mods videos. Have about 40 or 50 mods between all my different versions so don't want to list them all lol but I will list some ones you should definitely check out. TSLRCM, M4-78, Retextures for every planet, Retextures for Visa, Handmaiden and other characters. Movie Mandalorians is really good. Better Blasters, Restored Hsiss Glitch, Revans Robes. Too many good ones to pick just a few lol

  • @gabrielalexander7119
    @gabrielalexander7119 3 роки тому +1

    Can you do the same for Handmaiden and Disciple? I really like Handmaiden and want to know how to best balance her unarmed feats

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому

      I certainly will add it to the list! I think I will do Disciple and Mira together since they are both companions you COULD get and won't for sure get. Handmaiden is definitely one I wanted to cover though. She is quite unique as a fighter so it should be pretty fun to dive into her abilites!

  • @rinaldoman3331
    @rinaldoman3331 Рік тому

    I always make all companions jedi. Hardest is Mira cause if you play recomend planets you can convert Mira only after Onderon.

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  Рік тому

      Same here! It's an awesome feature almost every other Star Wars game lacks. I tend to do Nar Shaddaa first always. Usually a struggle due to level and what not but you can convert Mira off the bat if you save the influence gains around for her.

    • @rinaldoman3331
      @rinaldoman3331 Рік тому

      @@CatDaddyGaming I play Mira with base 6 level to save level up before I convert here to jedi. It's hard at 6 level agains Ubese but you only need to find Exit at left side. Same I do to Handmaiden.

    • @realBatman-89
      @realBatman-89 10 місяців тому

      You can convert Mira before leaving nar shadda

  • @supremecommander4311
    @supremecommander4311 2 роки тому

    I personally would just jedify all companions i could as soon as possible not even lvling them but since i now use a mod that let me just max lvl instantly i lvled those same companions to 15 then made them jedi but next run imma just max them out just to see how different they are

  • @kiantayeb1514
    @kiantayeb1514 2 роки тому

    NICE

  • @matthewbray764
    @matthewbray764 3 роки тому

    I recently played through the game for the first time once in the non restored version got slightly confused got very far with that playthrough i.e the 3rd jedi happened to be the duxnon part 2, then I heard about the restored content mod so decided to do another playthrough, in that one I tried to gain influence on hk47 but my choices were not the best so I heard all of his dialog apart from the last one as I did not have enough influence, I also foolishly spoke to visas and handmaiden did not want to talk to me ever again. In both of my playthroughs I was a male character.
    I will do another complete playthrough this time as a female which I want to get all possible characters to be jedi but Bao Dur as it seems its better to leave him as a tech specialist, I also want to be max lightside so I can get to the vision place on korriban.

  • @ridgecabernet1933
    @ridgecabernet1933 Рік тому

    I usually take them to lvl 10 in their class. Then go full jedi.

  • @deliverancegaming6652
    @deliverancegaming6652 3 роки тому +1

    I don't even think I have ever done a sneak attack, does Atton have to have a stealth field generator?
    I also have never been able to covert Bao Dur to a jedi, do you just got to have him in the party a lot?

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому +1

      For sneak attack you have to the sneak attack ability. Scoundrels and Jedi Sentinels get that attack. It only works when the enemy can't defend itself. So either for the first attack when the enemy doesn't notice you, or if you can stun the enemy like with Force Wave. Stealth Field Generator helps but isn't required. As for Bao Dur, you have to keep gaining influence with him and you will unlock dialogue with him and be able to convert him. Happens when you are on the Ebon Hawk. 3 or 4 influence gains should do the trick if you don't have any influence losses with him.

  • @DarthBodya
    @DarthBodya 2 роки тому

    I every time got Bao Dur bugged...or something...never got dialogues. Only appear after Dxun. So I don't know how to make him as jedi.

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  2 роки тому

      Are you getting 3 or 4 influence gains with him?

  • @gamertimefuntime4245
    @gamertimefuntime4245 2 роки тому +1

    I’m a little disappointed that Bao-Dur has so many restrictions. I don’t get why the designer don’t allow him to wear Jedi robes or certain types of armor. It’s beyond me.

    • @ActualInsanity™
      @ActualInsanity™ 2 роки тому +2

      Probably because of model issues of his arm. And it could overwrite the actual Jedi robes. They would have to specifically make special robes/ armor for him such as the Charged armor for Bao Dur mod.

  • @nathaniel_pardue
    @nathaniel_pardue Рік тому

    I always give Atton a viridian blade

  • @theg2165
    @theg2165 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the tips do more on kotor 2 thank you question light side or dark side

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому

      I plan to here soon!! I enjoy Darkside most but that probably cuz I'm too nice in real life so it's good to play out being evil and rude lol!!

  • @lilamil.
    @lilamil. 3 роки тому

    I think Atton is way better with sneak attack so I leveled him up to 11. Dunno about Bao-Dur though

  • @acethegray
    @acethegray 3 роки тому

    ❤️

  • @reiiz9942
    @reiiz9942 3 роки тому

    Im so early 😂

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому

      And much appreciated! Usually post vids on the weekend but was saving this one for today since it's Star Wars day!

  • @imahaloguy
    @imahaloguy 3 роки тому

    You ever look into the cross class glitch to turn mandalore or hanharr into jedi? Especially interested if it’s possible on mobile.

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому

      I know what you are referring to but I don't know if it is possible on mobile due to lack of buttons. Perhaps if you had a controller connected you could since you have to over load the button and menu switching to get the glitch to work. Just speculation though.

  • @darrellmurray4928
    @darrellmurray4928 10 місяців тому

    Bao-Dur has a pretty simple build. Take one level to 7, putting points into his non-Treat Injury and Stealth skills to max them out. Convert him at level 8, allocating the stat point in Intelligence to even it out. This will give you enough skill points at level-up to keep his core skills topped off throughout the game. He'll now have all of the benefits for his starting class with better health and feat progression.

  • @demiteliv3066
    @demiteliv3066 2 роки тому

    Sorry, I don’t know where to address my question - does it make sense to invest points to INT, CONST to companions so that they can wear implants and get more skill points? Or is it better to just invest points in the "class" stat (for example, DEX)? Thanks in advance.

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  2 роки тому

      Tough to say which one is better. Depends on your play style. Both are good routes. If you think implants and higher skills will benefit you more than higher DEX then do that and vice versa. I would say it really depends on your main character. If you main character is a Strength or Dexterity beast, then go with implants and skills. If you main character is more for skills than damage then go with the higher class stats. No wrong choice, just try to balance your party.

  • @imahaloguy
    @imahaloguy 2 роки тому

    You gonna make the same video for the female companions and Disciple?

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  2 роки тому +1

      Yes I sure am! Been slammed at work but working on a project now so maybe the next one or the one after that but I certainly plan to!

  • @Rayzizii
    @Rayzizii 3 роки тому

    Hey u know how to fix this on samsung when I play kotor 2 on samsung I was going to the polar academy and it's keep crashing my game on the samsung phone u know how to fix it?

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't know the exact issue as to why your game is crashing in a certain location. Maybe if your game was crashing on start up, but not crashing at certain parts. I would suggest backing up your saves and trying to uninstall and reinstall the game and see if that helps. Sorry I couldn't be of more help!

    • @Rayzizii
      @Rayzizii 3 роки тому

      @@CatDaddyGaming it's works thank you for helping!

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  3 роки тому

      @@Rayzizii Yay! Very glad yo hear that did the trick :)

  • @analothor
    @analothor 4 місяці тому

    I think for both of them the truth lies somewhere down the middle let them level up around 12-15 times then convert them
    Maybe less so with bao dur due to the fact you have T-3 means the techy stuff can be left to him

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  4 місяці тому +1

      It's fun to mess around with. They did a fantastic job balancing pros and cons of both. Super crazy to see in games released a decade or more ago.

  • @ThePawcioRavage
    @ThePawcioRavage 3 роки тому

    Do you made any mods?

    • @CatDaddyGaming
      @CatDaddyGaming  Рік тому

      Unfortunately not. I would really love to but I have hardly anytime as it is. I enjoy playing video games too much! They lied to us about being adults lol