Italian Artillery in North Africa

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
  • Compilation of Luce Newsreel footage

КОМЕНТАРІ • 109

  • @schaerffenberg
    @schaerffenberg Рік тому +26

    Those 149 mm Cannone beauties gave the Brits the runs! The Italians in North Africa did FAR better than conventional historians admit. To find out, read "Mussolini's War" from The Barnes Review Press.

    • @TheGrenadier97
      @TheGrenadier97 6 місяців тому

      Noted. By the way, i just recently read "For God and Kaiser" by Richard Bassett about the austrian armies of the Habsburgs between 1619 and 1918. It also deals with a military unfairly downplayed by many.

  • @davidwormell6609
    @davidwormell6609 4 роки тому +33

    Thanks for posting this rare and valuable footage

  • @fedfra7928
    @fedfra7928 4 роки тому +56

    Ottimi mezzi, ma pochi di numero, i nostri eroicamente con quel che avevano han fatto faticare non poco i nemici

    • @michelangelobuonarroti4958
      @michelangelobuonarroti4958 4 роки тому +9

      Ottimi Mezzi? Sara` uno scerzo. Erano Pezzi antiquati, troppo vecchi per la guerra. Funzionali, certo, ma vecchi. Un altro problema era, che i colpi erano di bassa qualita` e per questo era difficile in tante occasioni di sparare precisamente. E i pezzi piu pesanti di 149mm erano rari.
      Tutto perche l'industria d'armi Italiana negli'anni 30 era debolissima, per esempio nell' 1939 solo 8% dei pezzi di artiglieria pesante desiderata era stata prodotta, semplicemente perche non c'era la capicita di produzione neccessaria.
      Questo fattore, insieme alla mancanza dell petroleo e` quello che costo` la guerra all'Italia. L'Italia era capace di giocare il gioco dei numeri (uomini), pero mancava l'equipaggo di tutti tipi....

    • @proarte4081
      @proarte4081 2 роки тому +17

      @@michelangelobuonarroti4958 Non tutti i nostri mezzi erano antiquati, è un po' un luogo comune che va avanti da 70 anni. Il problema principale non era l'incapacità di concepire buone armi, ma l'impossibiità di produrne in numero sufficiente e in tempi rapidi. Un problema di debolezza industriale certamente. Era più facile produrre un gran numero di armi obsolete, quelle buone richiedevano tempi più lunghi, per cui non ve ne erano abbastanza.

    • @karimtemri1664
      @karimtemri1664 2 роки тому +2

      @@michelangelobuonarroti4958 io mi ricordo che un Australiano raccontava che avendo combattuto in nord africa, aveva notato che spesso i proiettili italiani non esplodevano ad impatto. E anche quando lo facevano non essendo difettosi raramente penetravano i carri inglesi

    • @simonemassa5709
      @simonemassa5709 3 місяці тому

      Il cannone da 47/32 si è rivelato praticamente nulla contro i tank Britannici e Russi.

  • @gotterdammerung5527
    @gotterdammerung5527 2 роки тому +8

    Surprisingly recoilless for the time

  • @fritz1143
    @fritz1143 3 роки тому +9

    Written and directed by *ISITITUTO LUCE CINECITTA'*

  • @daveridge1151
    @daveridge1151 4 роки тому +17

    Could you show film of the Italian army on the eastern front?

    • @giovanniferrarini2784
      @giovanniferrarini2784 4 роки тому +2

      "I due nemici"? Italian army vs english... but i feel didn't exists english version

    • @proarte4081
      @proarte4081 2 роки тому

      @@giovanniferrarini2784 "I Due Nemici" was a film on the war in East Africa. For the eastern front (Russia ) I remember "Italiani Brava Gente".

    • @tetrapack.mantovano
      @tetrapack.mantovano 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/uSIwsLLl3JE/v-deo.html

    • @vorlons100
      @vorlons100 2 роки тому

      look alpinni tredintina julia 8th army on the don river also 30000 thousand wrer at stalin grad

    • @alfredopaganelli
      @alfredopaganelli 2 місяці тому

      Meglio di no! Sarebbe pietoso quanto questo!

  • @CarloBiondi
    @CarloBiondi 3 роки тому +15

    My grandfather served in the Italian army artillery during the war. He was sent to Greece when Italy invaded that country.

    • @koraistr.
      @koraistr. 2 роки тому +1

      Invaded is ridiculous to say that. It was a piece of cake for greeks your funny army.

    • @1legomaster
      @1legomaster 2 роки тому +8

      @@koraistr. Greece still lost, your military capitulated when the German Army arrived.

    • @koraistr.
      @koraistr. 2 роки тому

      @@1legomaster are you a nazi German? My father with others bleu up a train with Germans, he was proud of it. You lost time in Greece and so Erika became pregnant by sovietics or our allies. We belong to the winners, that's why we had back our islands of dodecanese. We won.

    • @1legomaster
      @1legomaster 2 роки тому

      @@koraistr. I am American, but these are the facts. Germany invaded to help Italy and they defeated Greece.

    • @koraistr.
      @koraistr. 2 роки тому +1

      @@1legomaster ok my friend we were a small country of 7 millions who defeated Italy and fought against nazisme, at the end we had back our islands from Italy, this is a win.

  • @rocksteel44
    @rocksteel44 22 дні тому

    ...MAGNIFICO!!!!!

  • @madmattdrummer5487
    @madmattdrummer5487 3 місяці тому +1

    Italian artillery men weren’t to be messed with in WW2

    • @alfredopaganelli
      @alfredopaganelli 2 місяці тому

      In giro no, a cannonate si! I nostri cannoni avevano gittate più corte di 1/3 rispetto agli avversari.

  • @mypussiehurts
    @mypussiehurts 3 роки тому +5

    My Zio was an artillery officer in north Africa very cool to see this video.

  • @richardcurry4912
    @richardcurry4912 2 роки тому +2

    The Italians were doing OK for some time.

  • @DavidMarkovic646
    @DavidMarkovic646 2 роки тому +1

    Damn no model 34?

  • @flavioric
    @flavioric 3 роки тому +6

    Ci sarebbero stati utili più pezzi da 149 che centinaia di pezzi leggeri della prima guerra mondiale... era da fondere tutto quell'acciaio e fare armamenti decenti

    • @utenteantimoralismo8549
      @utenteantimoralismo8549 3 роки тому +6

      L'avremmo fatto perché il patto d'acciaio prevedeva l'inizio della guerra nel 43, ma Hitler la iniziò nel 39 e questo fu uno dei principali fattori per cui eravamo impreparati.

    • @brunocostantini9854
      @brunocostantini9854 2 роки тому +3

      @@utenteantimoralismo8549 Visto come eravamo messi credo che in quattro anni ben difficilmente si sarebbe fatto quello che non si è fatto in venti.

  • @maurocozzone8352
    @maurocozzone8352 3 роки тому +3

    Bel video!

  • @lupoalberto8384
    @lupoalberto8384 6 місяців тому

    E il pezzo da 90 mm ?

  • @uglibich4807
    @uglibich4807 4 роки тому

    Why did i put this in 2x speed...

  • @donatobartolo7657
    @donatobartolo7657 Рік тому +1

    Todas eran armas de la 1ra guerra mundial muy bien conservadas pero ya era artillería vieja

  • @rodrigocarlos7027
    @rodrigocarlos7027 2 роки тому

    Por pouco não conquistaram o Egito

    • @FarnesV
      @FarnesV 2 роки тому

      aunque lo consiguieron

  • @marcoamaral2606
    @marcoamaral2606 3 роки тому

    De rir🤣😂🤣😁

  • @kirkstinson7316
    @kirkstinson7316 4 роки тому +4

    Ah, the Italians . So desperate to show that WWI vintage weapons were still viable in the 1940s

    • @michelangelobuonarroti4958
      @michelangelobuonarroti4958 4 роки тому +29

      Wrong. The Industry simply couldn't do better at all. Italy had 3 main problems: lack of good leadership, fuel, and equipment.
      The lack of good leadership could've been mitigated by playing the numbers game, which Italy certainly was capable of doing in 1940, with 250.000 in East Africa and 200.000 in Lybia (150.000 facing Egypt), but the lack of transport vehicles and fuel made it unsupplyable and unmovable in the desert, and the lack of equipment made it unfit for combat.
      They weren't trying to show anything. They were fighting a lost war from second 1, due to the opportunism of their Duce.

    • @valentinius62
      @valentinius62 4 роки тому +5

      I'd hate to be downrange and in front of a French 75 mm when it fires...or a Civil War Napoleon for that matter.

    • @blueshirt06
      @blueshirt06 4 роки тому +7

      Really? like the French didn't do that to and the Germans with their horse drawn carts

    • @piersp38
      @piersp38 3 роки тому +18

      Easy to talk , when the Yankees supplied illimited everything and the Russians did the dirty game on the main front also against the Italians while the brits used the colonial troops and Their raw materials . In a equal system the story would be remarkably different .

    • @NoirChat138
      @NoirChat138 3 роки тому +5

      @@blueshirt06 if it so in the early 40's the American still had Brodie helmets and 1903 Springfield rifles issued to their troops, the Russian went from SVT-40 to the mosin nagant, and of course the British still carried the ww1 vintage SMLE...

  • @eduardodavid1021
    @eduardodavid1021 3 роки тому +1

    Itália en la 2a guerra... 🤦

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc 3 роки тому +11

      Brazil in cualquiera guerra: 🤣

    • @eduardodavid1021
      @eduardodavid1021 3 роки тому +1

      Me Gusta Itália, Paolo Rossi en 82 e Totó Schillaci 90😁

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc 3 роки тому +1

      @@eduardodavid1021 ok.
      Brazil is a great country, great soccer too

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc 3 роки тому

      @Führer Whatever makes you sleep at night

    • @shrektheswampless6102
      @shrektheswampless6102 2 роки тому

      Probably better than Spain 😜

  • @dan_ita4693
    @dan_ita4693 Рік тому +1

    Chissa cose l'istituto Luce, chissà chissà anche chi l'avrà istutuita. Chissà