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  • @anntreloar3053
    @anntreloar3053 5 років тому +462

    Thank you for uploading this footage. It was my family who immigrated to Australia. I’m the little girls in dads arms while he’s being interviewed. We have had a great life in Australia and I thank my parents for the decision to move but I still miss all my family in Ireland and Ireland will always be home.

    • @thebadloser
      @thebadloser 5 років тому +30

      Fantastic to hear after watching this documentary - I don't know how anyone who lived in those parts of the city then coped with the constant stress they were living under every day. Your dad looked after his family and took them to a safe place - a strong man.

    • @ricdavid7476
      @ricdavid7476 5 років тому +6

      wow that must be very sentimental looking at the film your dad looked like a really nice bloke glad that it all worked out well for you. was your dad a catholic or a protestant? Did your faith in Christ as your saviour survive the move to Oz?

    • @arfer
      @arfer 5 років тому +16

      Great to hear you're doing well Ann....You're Da made the right decision.

    • @ricdavid7476
      @ricdavid7476 5 років тому +8

      @@paulduffy4585 Sorry to hear that . Could you not go back now that things have calmed down a little. There are some lovely rural bits of NI

    • @BrendyNew
      @BrendyNew 5 років тому +8

      Glad it worked out for yas. I was actually wondering how he ever got on. My dad was a bus driver, had his 25 years service throughout the troubles. Your dad seems like a good guy

  • @StopDropandLOL
    @StopDropandLOL 6 років тому +201

    Mr. Gunn's story broke my heart. You could hear the sheer terror in his voice. I really hope he did well in New Zealand.

    • @stephensmith4480
      @stephensmith4480 6 років тому +23

      Hear Hear. That poor mans story is heartbreaking,i hope he went on to live a long and happy life with his family away from it all.

    • @monkeybubblessupperdude1016
      @monkeybubblessupperdude1016 5 років тому +5

      Is the irony lost on anyone that his name is Mr GUNn.. considering the situation.

    • @monkeybubblessupperdude1016
      @monkeybubblessupperdude1016 5 років тому

      @Mark Kenny 😎😃

    • @TICTACMANTIPS
      @TICTACMANTIPS 5 років тому +1

      I can assure you nothing has changed

    • @dulls8475
      @dulls8475 4 роки тому

      @@stevegreen9460 I have lived in New Zealand and they have the same problems we do.

  • @chrismccann9164
    @chrismccann9164 5 років тому +20

    Great little video.... My parents were also one of the families that ran away to NZ and Australia. I was always a wee bit resentful, I felt like an outsider over here growing up and always wished we were back in Belfast. Watching these films makes it ever so clear that there was no other option at the time. I can understand my parents fears and why they felt they needed to leave their homes and other family and friends behind. My mother and father are both still alive and loving life down under... we can all be truly grateful for this when so many lost their lives during the troubles

    • @svukusic3432
      @svukusic3432 5 років тому

      Did you go return to Belfast?

    • @chrismccann9164
      @chrismccann9164 5 років тому +3

      @@svukusic3432 Yes just recently. I ended up living and working in Belfast for a year... I admit it was tough to live there and a little crazy. I rented a house right near my parents old neighbourhood. The money was shite and my children missed Australia so we came back down under. was the best experience for me and I plan to go back ! Belfast today is awesome even with all its flaws and social issues. The people in Northern Ireland can be hard but I love them all.

    • @svukusic3432
      @svukusic3432 5 років тому

      Thanks @@chrismccann9164. Good to hear things worked out for you. I was born in Belfast in '69. Moved away in '72. Great to visit every year or so. Interesting to see this video, how it was back then.

    • @iamsoldierf8316
      @iamsoldierf8316 4 роки тому +3

      You’ve a lot to thank your parents for, fair play returning and working back in Belfast. ONLY the dinosaurs holding it back.

    • @OhEidirsceoil
      @OhEidirsceoil 3 роки тому

      Why didnt ye move to Donegal, Dundalk or Monaghan?

  • @bustertypsy
    @bustertypsy 5 років тому +78

    Full respect to Edward Gunn. A shortage of men like him in this world.

    • @nervesinapattern7261
      @nervesinapattern7261 4 роки тому +11

      Agreed, hard working and honest. I hope he got that peace he was looking for.

  • @subscriberswithnoVideos-yx3jf
    @subscriberswithnoVideos-yx3jf 6 років тому +95

    The man at the end,You can see the pain in his eyes and hear it in his voice. I hope he made it to NZ and the other families at the start who said the were going to Australia went, stayed and had a good life, for I too left for Australia and have never looked back! Protestant or Catholic god bless every single one of them !!!!!!

    • @rabby77777
      @rabby77777 5 років тому +2

      The guy you are talking about when him and his family were going to get the boat . The taxi they were travelling in to the harbour crashed and the man was left paralysed. Talk about bad luck

    • @rabby77777
      @rabby77777 5 років тому

      @l g of course its bullshit I'm just fucking about

    • @vonny10096
      @vonny10096 5 років тому

      I was hoping that it all went well for them too

    • @peteschneider7369
      @peteschneider7369 5 років тому +5

      @@rabby77777 don't be that fuckwit !

    • @rabby77777
      @rabby77777 5 років тому

      @@peteschneider7369 lololol don't be that fuck wit that takes life to serious . Relax and don't be so angry

  • @neilanblomee1922
    @neilanblomee1922 5 років тому +120

    He was not political and was hard working but was a catholic, so he was run out of a protestant area...really fell sorry for Mr Gunn and his family.
    I am an ex-soldier and a generally a unionist, but I am ashamed that he was chased out of the area...and the country...

    • @paulclarke171
      @paulclarke171 5 років тому +6

      Are you from Ireland or Britain?

    • @whitewolfo2715
      @whitewolfo2715 5 років тому +5

      @@torquemada3273 The I.R.A. are Marxist you numbty they are your enemy now they support your replacement through its support of the Globalist agenda.

    • @torquemada3273
      @torquemada3273 5 років тому +4

      @@whitewolfo2715 Was in the Falls Rd a few weeks back...didn't hear any Marxist keech and definitely no enemies...you are thinking of the so called officials with that marxist tosser at the helm...Cathal Goulding in the 60's/70's...but it's 2019 now so peace and love everywhere😄😄😄 You must be from Glasgow using that word numpty😉

    • @torquemada3273
      @torquemada3273 5 років тому

      @@whitewolfo2715 Who the fuck are you??? by the sound of ur user name you sound like a member of the UK...explain bud😉

    • @torquemada3273
      @torquemada3273 5 років тому

      Typo error...meant KKK ya numpty😆😆😆

  • @tomceltic5502
    @tomceltic5502 5 років тому +48

    Alot of comments for mr gunn. A hard working family man. The worst about it is there was so many like him and his family this happened too. I hope he found peace

  • @W.A.T.P...55
    @W.A.T.P...55 5 років тому +80

    These old news reports from the troubles are great to watch..very educational..they should be shown in schools

    • @tuxitalk1World
      @tuxitalk1World 5 років тому +7

      Agreed, and here in the US as well. Growing up we heard of the conflict in Northern Ireland but we didn’t understand everything. I have now been going back and reading books and watching videos to learn more about that time.

    • @ericskillen1914
      @ericskillen1914 5 років тому +3

      Agreed, might put off some of the wee arseholes in Scotland trying to emulate them, let them see what the troubles really meant

    • @chrisroger8774
      @chrisroger8774 4 роки тому +4

      Yes I born IN the UK part of Northern Ireland through Troubles was part of Norm BK IN 60s 70s 80s Until 1998 Ulster Agreement

    • @chrisroger8774
      @chrisroger8774 4 роки тому +1

      @@ericskillen1914 who IS

  • @yitzaklieberstein8126
    @yitzaklieberstein8126 4 роки тому +46

    Edward Gunn seems like a legend , New Zealand gained a great guy.

    • @tomweldon7608
      @tomweldon7608 4 роки тому +4

      Well said, many a men like him from that part of Ireland, good hardworking men

    • @goalltheway-pm8xs
      @goalltheway-pm8xs 4 роки тому +1

      Should have shot a couple off the bastards before he left.

    • @jacquiewalton1355
      @jacquiewalton1355 3 роки тому

      Yitzak Lieberstein Is this one taking a rest micky ?

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 2 роки тому +1

      Edward Gunn make good Irish Nationalist politician in SDLP he stop the violence

  • @steveperry8031
    @steveperry8031 5 років тому +64

    An example of an innocent person , irrelevant of religion , who just wants a decent life but had his home attacked and his family terrified . The silent majority who suffered . Very sad.

  • @danielr4774
    @danielr4774 6 років тому +58

    19:05 Such a nice man. Respect.

  • @davekiernan1
    @davekiernan1 6 років тому +32

    Mr Edward Gunn. A fine man and true community person. God has not made enough people like this. An insperation.All of the Belfast and more Love you sir.

    • @OrdinaryJoe12
      @OrdinaryJoe12 4 роки тому

      davekiernan1 perhaps his religion and second name led to some confusion among the dysfunctional low intelligence youth of the opposing side. ‘that guys ira i heard hes got a gun’

  • @That_Random_Bloke
    @That_Random_Bloke 6 років тому +125

    I’d love to know what happened to Edward Gunn after he left for New Zealand. I hope it went well for him and his family

    • @chrisconnollyofficial
      @chrisconnollyofficial 5 років тому +6

      Was thinking the same thing myself mucker

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 5 років тому +11

      Became rich in the USA after leaving NZ and forgot all about failed backward Northern Ireland.

    • @chrisconnollyofficial
      @chrisconnollyofficial 5 років тому +1

      Is that a fact or fiction?

    • @gerry5134
      @gerry5134 5 років тому +4

      Which area in belfast did Mr Gunn live??

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 5 років тому

      TORQUE MADA What?

  • @glenmiller272
    @glenmiller272 6 років тому +70

    Truly felt sorry for Mr Gunn, just a working jack trying to live his life, hope things worked out for him and his family...

    • @eboyle3797
      @eboyle3797 5 років тому +3

      Like most people

    • @monkeybubblessupperdude1016
      @monkeybubblessupperdude1016 5 років тому

      Considering this is about the trouble on the streets it's ironic that his name is Mr GUNn

    • @torquemada3273
      @torquemada3273 5 років тому +1

      @@monkeybubblessupperdude1016 Thanks to YT a lot of people will now see how feckin horrendous these times were....long long overdue that Britain's involvement in Ireland is on the history curriculum in all British schools.

    • @monkeybubblessupperdude1016
      @monkeybubblessupperdude1016 5 років тому +3

      @@torquemada3273 I'm Irish and one day the island will be United

    • @torquemada3273
      @torquemada3273 5 років тому

      @@monkeybubblessupperdude1016 Genuinely don't know if the RA's guns gave the Nationalist's equality or if the SDLP would have got there just as quickly re Sunningdale but my instinct tell's me it was the BON JOVIES fearsome response which has led to EQUALITY...fuck what is equality with those inbred dark ages doolally willie Frazer types...we are so much better than that....Billy Hutchinson their bonfire leader 😆😆😆

  • @davekiernan1
    @davekiernan1 5 років тому +13

    Mr Gunn is a treasure. God bless Mr Gunn and family. It makes me very proud , when I hear this man.

  • @paulbrowne6087
    @paulbrowne6087 5 років тому +34

    Edward Gunn's house looks pretty much the same as it did 40 years ago. It's 80 Ardoyne Rd, Glenbryn. Definitely no catholics living around that district to this day.

  • @sansoucci5394
    @sansoucci5394 5 років тому +17

    It was heartbreaking having to see a decent man and his family get chased out of a place he liked living in.We cannot go back to times like that.I hope everything worked out better for them.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 2 роки тому

      Ulster Unionists Loyalists do the windows so this how supposed to convince Irish Roman Catholics into staying part of the UK 9:48

  • @surbon514
    @surbon514 6 років тому +29

    I hope Mr Gunn had a happy life in NZ, I'll bet he did. Nobody could put up with all the nonsense he suffered, I would have done the same thing if I were in his shoes!

  • @gomey70
    @gomey70 4 роки тому +17

    It's all these individual stories that break your heart. Just normal people trying to live their lives.

  • @shirleyannex
    @shirleyannex 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for uploading this documentary, I hope all the people that left have done well for themselves, I wish they would teach our troubles in our schools as younger generations haven't a clue, it's so they don't make the same mistakes and learn from our past and treat everyone with the same respect they deserve themselves, I remember these times thankfully my children haven't to a certain extent, many thanks ☺

  • @keithkeegan9776
    @keithkeegan9776 5 років тому +17

    Bad dat a man born and bredd in Belfast and works hard doesn't botther any one has to leave his country. Hope he made a good go of it in New Zealand.

  • @paulphilipempey1
    @paulphilipempey1 6 років тому +40

    Interesting documentary on Belfast.
    I am a firm believer that the majority of people during 'the Troubles' simply wished to go about their own lives, work hard and look after their family, like any other family in the United Kingdom or Republic of Ireland. Only a very small minority of people created the divide on both sides. I was particularly perturbed by the circumstances of the hardworking man nearing the end of the documentary, who had been forced to emigrate to New Zealand as a direct result of youths stoning and damaging his home. How helpless he must have felt for having committed the 'crime' of 'being from the other side'. How very sad!
    Belfast is a very different place now. However, will it last? Only time will tell.

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak 6 років тому +6

      Always takes one bad apple to spoil it for the bunch.

    • @StopDropandLOL
      @StopDropandLOL 6 років тому +12

      They all just slag each other off on Facebook now. The root of the problem really hasn't changed.

    • @geedee1264
      @geedee1264 6 років тому +5

      No the terrible political situation created the divide, ands it is different thankfully, but not as different as you like to think. My girlfriend lives in an estate controlled by the UVF and since I have an Irish name that could put my life in danger.

    • @edmund184
      @edmund184 6 років тому +5

      @@geedee1264 I had heard the paramilitary groups still control their communities. Very bad thing indeed but sadly predictable. Situation far from solved.

    • @Krass.Estranged
      @Krass.Estranged 5 років тому +3

      @@geedee1264 Not really your life in danger. Your jaw maybe, but thats standard NI.

  • @davidhynes1805
    @davidhynes1805 3 роки тому +5

    My dad was brought up in East Belfast and lived in Scotland the rest of his life when he married my mum, we all went 'back home' to visit and I always remember he would have a year in his eye, when he seen how his beloved city had been ruined by hatred and bigotry , we cannot ever go back to those dark days ever again!!!

  • @mindfixer4you
    @mindfixer4you 6 років тому +21

    I see from Google maps that this area has been redeveloped and Thistle Street is now a Court but with Union Jack's still flying! Would love to know what happened to those interviewed all those years ago.

  • @davidsmith2356
    @davidsmith2356 5 років тому +15

    Soldiers knew these people personally, we felt sorry for those we were unable to help.. We tried!

  • @zezet0ni594
    @zezet0ni594 2 роки тому +7

    Brave Bus drivers, who were often targeted and many killed or injured.
    The elderly gentleman boarding his windows . My heart melted when he was talking.
    Throughout ALL the years of The Troubles, the innocent communities, shoppers, children, workmen, they were all targeted by cowards on either side, and paid the ultimate price.
    God Bless them one and all, and bless this great island.
    I am an Irish descendant and I am, and always have been, proud to say that 🇬🇧 🇮🇪 🇬🇧

    • @cocksure8430
      @cocksure8430 Рік тому

      Why? I'm Irish/English myself.
      I know why I'm proud of my English heritage, but Irish? Nah, not proud of stories about victimhood and death cults.....
      (The knowledge saved and shared by priests throughout history , fantastic....but the vatican has other historical habits that aren't so positive... .🤦🏻‍♂️)

    • @zezet0ni594
      @zezet0ni594 Рік тому

      @@cocksure8430 I share your anger. They were hideous atrocities.
      That notwithstanding, I'm proud of my Irish ancestry for many reasons.
      I'm proud of the strength each and every Irish person had. To stand strong and believe that one day the awful nightmare of The Troubles they were living through would end, and that peace would come to Ireland.
      I am in my late 60s, and remember clearly the stories my grandfather told me of the struggles he and his family had, just to eek out a meal from the land in Ireland and to fight just to stave off hunger and illness.
      I am a proud English person.
      But I will always be proud of my Irish heritage.

    • @cocksure8430
      @cocksure8430 Рік тому

      See? Youre proud of what great victims the Irish are, never giving up not winning...over the body of the last revolutionary (whos death they sing about with glee)...who also lost.
      Not the best I'm afraid.

    • @zezet0ni594
      @zezet0ni594 Рік тому +1

      @@cocksure8430You're wrong. I disagree.
      I acknowledge the strength and bravery of the Irish who have long suffered. If not from religious bigotry then from political crimes carried out by both sides, which blighted that land with blood for decades.
      Now peace is surviving there, I don't understand why you're happy to make sweeping statements about 95% of honest, hard working people, as if they don't deserve it?
      I'd be interested to know what you're views are of 'your own' Irish family and their struggles.
      Hopefully, you have studied their lives and know something of your Irish genealogy.
      But, anyway. Let's just agree to disagree here.
      My feelings for the land of my fore fathers is strong and I AM proud. Always will be.
      Have a nice day.

    • @cocksure8430
      @cocksure8430 Рік тому

      @@zezet0ni594 No, I asked you what youre proud of, and all you can come up with is being proud of being victims.
      Thats exactly what I said is their identity. Also, folk like you who know nothing about Ireland (you couldnt even give me one single achievement to be proud of) but for some reason love the idea of being Irish, like a child who wants his life to be a little more interesting than it really is.
      Lip service.
      So no, we wont agree on anything. I said what you were going to say about pride in victimhood, and then you said it....exactly.
      If you wish to be proud of something then at least have the courtesy to know something about a place before you steal an identity for yourself.
      Or you could find some pride in who you actually are rather than some mythical freedom fighting ancestry....its really fukin lame.

  • @steveperry8031
    @steveperry8031 5 років тому +21

    Sad story of Edward Gunn , hard working man .....and subjected to that , and no protection from the army or police ...

    • @spm36
      @spm36 4 роки тому +1

      What should they have done? Sat outside his door 24/7? Blame the cretins who do this to a decent man instead of blaming others

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 2 роки тому

      @@spm36 Bigoted Ulster Scots Presbyterians

  • @sarapatricius8473
    @sarapatricius8473 6 років тому +9

    Thank-you for uploading this video

  • @donnataylor5673
    @donnataylor5673 5 років тому +19

    Read many books on the troubles!!! Done a lotta research too it was a horrible time where many innocent lives were lost through catholic and Protestant fight 😭😭😭
    I love coming ova to Belfast from Scotland beautiful country fave place in the world

    • @paulcarolan8646
      @paulcarolan8646 5 років тому +3

      Hello from royal hill of Tara county Meath Ireland☺

    • @Normalguy1690
      @Normalguy1690 5 років тому +4

      donna taylor ahh a good Scots man always friend to us loyalists in Northern Ireland

    • @careyscates5504
      @careyscates5504 5 років тому +1

      Scottish love to party in Belfast

    • @iamsoldierf8316
      @iamsoldierf8316 4 роки тому

      liam mellows1916 Lolol. If you can’t beat ‘em, JOIN ‘em.

  • @petergreen2552
    @petergreen2552 5 років тому +9

    Where I lived back then,there was little or none of this. I pitied the poor people of Belfast having to endure that shit for over 30 years. Thankfully,those times are passed.

    • @dowling1981
      @dowling1981 5 років тому

      They haven't gone away

    • @petergreen2552
      @petergreen2552 5 років тому +1

      @@dowling1981 ok,there's still a little bit of internal feuding over territory and possible drug distribution,but the bombs that paralysed Belfast at one time aren't going off anymore. Police and Army aren't being shot at. It's just the never ending marches and flags nonsense that won't go away

  • @juliemcleod9869
    @juliemcleod9869 5 років тому +9

    Thank god things have changed..
    I went to Belfast about 3 years ago .
    I found it to be a modern vibrant city..which was busseling.
    The people were kind and helpful.
    It's worth a visit.
    Lots of history!

    • @johndillinger8424
      @johndillinger8424 4 роки тому +1

      Yes everyone goes to Belfast these days. So much night life I'm still amazed any time I go.

  • @JerzyFeliksKlein
    @JerzyFeliksKlein 4 роки тому +3

    That last interview was the most touching all of I've seen in those Thames documentaries about Belfast. I knew a guy who left a protestant area even though he was a protestant, simply because he didn't want to get entangled in the conflict in the early 80s. He spent 10 years in RSA and eventually returned.

  • @s871-c1q
    @s871-c1q 6 років тому +15

    thank youuu! tough topic, love it from a historical not political POV

  • @David-nm4yc
    @David-nm4yc 4 роки тому +11

    "an average day in Belfast" well that would send you to the other side of the world.

  • @darraghwalsh8534
    @darraghwalsh8534 5 років тому +12

    14.10 is the problem. Protestant feels better because no Catholics nearby. She wasn't scared was she.... just didn't want them near her. That smile on her face when she quotes her husband saying it hasn't started yet.

  • @RobertK1993
    @RobertK1993 5 років тому +17

    Sickening behaviour by both sides the youth should have been kept on leech.

    • @endzm05
      @endzm05 5 років тому +5

      That would just suck the life out of them

  • @robertplatt1379
    @robertplatt1379 4 роки тому +6

    what a real man and gentleman that farther was .......

  • @ravenhill_of_yore_1968
    @ravenhill_of_yore_1968 5 років тому +11

    good old thames tv giving us clips of yesteryear, so long ago now.

  • @stephenholmes1036
    @stephenholmes1036 8 місяців тому +1

    Mr Gunn , I hope you all had a good life.

  • @johnboy3377
    @johnboy3377 5 років тому +9

    would love to know what happend to the fella at the end said he was moving to NZ, did he and his family make it and a good life for them selfs??

  • @eboyle3797
    @eboyle3797 5 років тому +14

    To think it could go back to this because our precious peace process isn't being looked after 😞😠

    • @Normalguy1690
      @Normalguy1690 5 років тому +1

      E Boyle because of the scum IRA and this brexit shite and the failure of our government

    • @decclaws
      @decclaws 5 років тому +4

      @@Normalguy1690 and the drug dealing loyalists poisoning the youth

    • @Normalguy1690
      @Normalguy1690 5 років тому +3

      decclaws fuck off more drugs come in on the Catholic side than the loyalist side. But why even mention either side they both deal to kids moron.

  • @dvrn86
    @dvrn86 4 роки тому +8

    Absolutely shameful the way that hardworking Mr Gunn was treated. No doubt in my mind he done well in New Zealand.

  • @a81758
    @a81758 10 місяців тому +1

    20.55 This man Mr Gunn. He was too good for the area as it was at that time. Moving was a blessing in disguise. New Zealand is a lovely place.

  • @stephenholmes1036
    @stephenholmes1036 8 місяців тому +1

    Some of our relatives left the North in December 1971 they came down to us around Midleton and Waterville Co Kerry.
    They came for the children sake due to the breakdown in behaviour at schools.
    It was the best thing they did the children settled well.
    They have never been back, They never wanted to got back.
    I hope it worked out for the other emigraes too

  • @1969sdh
    @1969sdh 5 років тому +10

    Bless mr Gunn

  • @markmay184
    @markmay184 4 роки тому +13

    Very sad story, and I hope Edward Gunn and his family are doing well in NZ. Like Edward Gunn, my grandfather (except a Protestant) “cut his losses” and left Belfast. Only he emigrated to Australia - in 1914. Where he met and married my grandmother (a Catholic).

    • @iamsoldierf8316
      @iamsoldierf8316 4 роки тому +2

      I married a nice lady from the Ballymurphy area. Prod, proud and paratrooper. 😎

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 2 роки тому

      @@iamsoldierf8316 Sure you did solider F a lost cause his banged to rights Ulster Loyalists need stop defending British Security Forces disgrace themselves

  • @monkofmayhem1373
    @monkofmayhem1373 4 роки тому +2

    15th feb '71 decimilization was introduced, this film was 30th sep '71 so when I see a house @£20000 which in todays money would well north of £1M it makes me think that these house prices have not inflated in line with currency.

  • @lesliestobbart1386
    @lesliestobbart1386 5 років тому +7

    Good for him he’s a hard working man wanting a normal life

  • @doloresfisher596
    @doloresfisher596 5 років тому +16

    How sad that a man born and bred in the city of Belfast with both sad and happy memories felt he could no longer stay had to move to other side of the world.and fact he said he would rather not see it again sad to have to be made to feel that way.yes we have come on to some degree but there is a long way to go.the vast majority of people here are great and feel exactly as Mr.Gunn did back then it is only a handful of people on both sides now that want to keep this nonsense alive cos they don't know any other day to live but I am confident with next few generations it will eventually die off because people are travelling more outside of northern Ireland they are widening their horizons more and educating themselves more so we will get there it's just going to take but longer than we had anticipated because future generations are not going to be put in a box Catholics.protestants.dissenter will all mix together and become more integrated with one another and if two people come together in love no one is going to worry where you were christened or indeed even if you were because love and mutual respect will always win the day in the end and I firmly believe it will here too.

  • @georgedeathe4683
    @georgedeathe4683 5 років тому +5

    My best friend 42 yrs ago NI Catholic married an English protestant they moved over to Craigavon and we run out by both sides, they settled back in England.

    • @thornbird6768
      @thornbird6768 5 років тому

      george de'athe How childish !!!!

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 2 роки тому

      Ulster Unionists hate English Protestants for selling them out who could blame English Protestant they are Anglicans think Presbyterians are freaks weirdos😂

  • @Harley.Davidson
    @Harley.Davidson 2 роки тому +3

    My Mother's family left this insanity and took the entire family to the United States.
    My Father's family got the entire family out if Poland and also emigrated to the United States for obvious reasons.
    I graduated from High School in 1976 and wanted to go to Belfast to help.
    My Irish Mother stopped me. 😶

  • @LurganGoon91
    @LurganGoon91 5 років тому +11

    The bus driver, what a legend 😂

  • @tomratican6345
    @tomratican6345 4 роки тому +4

    I hope Edward Gunn and his family are doing well and are happy that they got away from those idiots. What a nice man

  • @patrickcrowther9195
    @patrickcrowther9195 4 роки тому +7

    I honestly think this type of clear, factual programming is way superior to the over loud, frenetic nonsense that so often fills TV screens. The early ‘70s was a golden age for television in many ways.

  • @dellahicks7231
    @dellahicks7231 2 роки тому +2

    I've watched several documentaries on The Troubles etc, as I grew up in Canada in the 70s, and remember seeing fighting on the nightly news every day. I was too young to understand it at the time, and frankly, (And I am ashamed to admit this) it was so far removed from us, most adults just ignored it.
    This brings up some interesting perspectives I actually have considered while watching the turmoil. Like how did the buses keep running, civic facilities, or shops? The take from the suburbs was fascinating, very informative!

  • @killakristian7084
    @killakristian7084 6 років тому +9

    my god,,i grew up in Belfast,, memories , fuck ,,,we were a crazy bunch in west Belfast back in the day.

    • @decclaws
      @decclaws 5 років тому

      @@adrenalinpump7601 the billy bum boys are worse

  • @michaelbritton9778
    @michaelbritton9778 5 років тому +6

    It's just a shame that the whole population of northern Ireland can't get together and forget about their religious beliefs and remember that they are all decent human beings and get on with one another it must be awful I feel sorry for them all.

  • @jamesoneill1087
    @jamesoneill1087 5 років тому +8

    @1.44 “you see with me being on holiday I forgot all about it. Lol

  • @paulallaway3690
    @paulallaway3690 4 роки тому +6

    Strange to see Beechfield St in East Belfast opened up the way it used to be, now split to divide the communities.

  • @NeilVanceNeilVance
    @NeilVanceNeilVance 6 років тому +5

    Very good footage of our old town and folk ... thank you!

    • @jimmcferran6213
      @jimmcferran6213 6 років тому +6

      If only we all lived our lives like this man and hurt no one .true family man

  • @gordonseales3278
    @gordonseales3278 4 роки тому +4

    I don't care that I'm a prod but what that gentleman said makes him a diamond and I respect him and he and his family shouldn't have to leave Belfast's nice places,that is what wee need more of and so feckin what I don't care wee need feckin peace because I grew up up there then so don't try and tell me because you are either English or member of my familie so I'm not bloody interested.

  • @demolik2003
    @demolik2003 5 років тому +8

    23:30 What a brave man

  • @donaldstewart9827
    @donaldstewart9827 5 років тому +18

    The loyalist thugs and layabouts drove that hard working man and his family out of their home and it was all for "God and Ulster" LOL!

    • @ToldAlthea
      @ToldAlthea 5 років тому +2

      @ Donald Stewart. no matter which side utters “ X drove Catholics/Protestants out of their homes” --- you will always have the Catherine Teszke’s of the world ready to pounce. I am an American who has NO place in the centuries old battles in Ireland. I am the son of a mixed Catholic/Protestant marriage. We were raised Protestant. But what the loyalists perpetrated in Northern Ireland , especially from 1969 to 2000, needs to be FULLY REVEALED AND NEVER FORGOTTEN. Serial killing sanctioned by government. The Republicans are guilty of same crap.... but it was the brutal repression of the centuries which created them as a unit. Much like Germans under Hitler, these people who perpetrated (post the war) must come out and f’n apologize for what they have done. Now let those who disagree speak...🙂

    • @jdcoffey6
      @jdcoffey6 4 роки тому +2

      Dirty prods

    • @hiddenknowledge2012
      @hiddenknowledge2012 4 роки тому +1

      @Jadey Xx That's utter lies. Everyone knows it was the protestant majority government oppressing fuck out of civil rights marches and catholics which forced people to fight back. Proddie bastards have the same arrogant attitude as the British establishment, forgetting that Ireland as a whole was once united until British forces occupied the north and then claimed it as their own.

    • @jordanhicks5131
      @jordanhicks5131 4 роки тому

      @Jadey Xx yeah that's a bunch of lies.

    • @hilarioushen4164
      @hilarioushen4164 4 роки тому

      wuss81 🎱⚽️⚾️🏀🎱⚽️s

  • @MrBettyfisher
    @MrBettyfisher 5 років тому +5

    Heartbreaking

  • @mactoirdealbhaigh7624
    @mactoirdealbhaigh7624 5 років тому +8

    Charles Stewart Parnell, Wolfe Tone, Erskine Childers, Billy Leonard, Ernest Blythe, Robert Barton, Ivan Cooper, Kathleen Lynn, Issac Butt, William Smith O Brien, Darrel Figgis, Stephan Gwynn, Horace Plunkett, Thomas Addis Emmet, Thomas Davis, James Napper Tandy, John Gray, Lord Edward Fitzgerald, all Irish Protestant IRA members. It's an Irish, British thing not Catholic, Protestant as a lot of arseholes would have you think.

    • @merseydave1
      @merseydave1 5 років тому

      Its a Nationalist issue, the vast majority of catholics have that outlook ... On the other hand, its a Unionist issue ... the vast majority of protestants have that outlook . So regrettably its a political-religious issue.

    • @mactoirdealbhaigh7624
      @mactoirdealbhaigh7624 5 років тому

      @@merseydave1 Your talking about the black boxes in the north, that's not true for Ireland as a whole.

    • @merseydave1
      @merseydave1 5 років тому

      @@mactoirdealbhaigh7624 You are talking nonsense

    • @mactoirdealbhaigh7624
      @mactoirdealbhaigh7624 5 років тому

      @@merseydave1 Right I just live here, what the fuck would I know?

    • @wingnut71
      @wingnut71 8 місяців тому

      Didn't know Ivan Cooper was an IRA member. I think his family might have something to say about that.

  • @mabbrey
    @mabbrey 4 роки тому +5

    heart breaking

  • @afroliciouspresents3603
    @afroliciouspresents3603 3 роки тому +3

    Mr. Edward Gunn is a true man, protecting his family.
    His face is very similar to that of the actor Daniel Day Lewis.

  • @patrick_dy3r
    @patrick_dy3r 4 роки тому +3

    Northern Ireland fell into chaos and terror (from both sides) because there weren’t enough men like Mr. Gunn.
    Moral of the Troubles: Be like Mr. Gunn.

  • @billiardball9650
    @billiardball9650 3 роки тому +3

    the wee man with the windows godbless him and in the end of the day its only innocent decent people that suffered and continue to suffer

  • @polmacdhomhnaill3021
    @polmacdhomhnaill3021 5 років тому +5

    24:45 The words of those in the Clann MacDonald's of Glencoe back in late 1690's.

  • @polmacdhomhnaill3021
    @polmacdhomhnaill3021 5 років тому +7

    15:20 three years later at the Mulberry Bush Birmingham. Support for the UDA spread across the Midland's, even today 2019 you'll see the link on football pins to the UDA.

  • @jwf1964
    @jwf1964 Місяць тому

    I'm an Irish-American. You could fill a book with all the things I don't know about the troubles. But I feel for all the innocent people who suffered, including the British soldiers, the vast majority of whom were brave decent men. I empathize with their feelings of being hated for trying to help. I served in the Balkans and Middle East, so I know the feeling. What a God awful mess. Nothing justifies losing one's sense of decency.

  • @kevinlynch9438
    @kevinlynch9438 4 роки тому +4

    I hope that man & his family had a great life in New Zealand !! I'm sure he did as he was obviously a hard working man!!
    And I hope the young lads who chased him out of Ireland (just like my own parents were , for the crime of being Catholic's) are still alive when Ireland is united once again (or if they are dead, almost as good) because a United Ireland is now as inevitable as the sun coming up in the morning!! God Bless The UNDEFEATED P. IRA 🇮🇪✊🏻🇵🇸

  • @IrishTechnicalThinker
    @IrishTechnicalThinker 6 років тому +25

    Remember the Ballymurphy massacre. British forces murdered 11 innocent people including a mother of 4 children, they shot her 12 times and once in the face trying to help the wounded.

    • @joeoreilly1479
      @joeoreilly1479 6 років тому +3

      Strange white stupid protestant person more like it and get rid of your hatred and maybe you will some sense

    • @liammellows-hz3pf
      @liammellows-hz3pf 5 років тому +4

      You are very one-sided.I think your off a very low I.Q..You spout hatred on a load of videos without evidence..Where you even born when the "Ballymurphy Massacre" happened.? Do you know anyone that was shot dead?.Never discredit if you know nothing about it.

    • @peterkirk123
      @peterkirk123 5 років тому +4

      @Straight White British Protestant Straight Black Irish Republican They were as innocent as Lee Rigby , and none had ever joined an army .

    • @edwardtanner6393
      @edwardtanner6393 5 років тому +5

      Did u remember bloody friday, la mon , enniskillen .Or have u sellected memory ?

    • @rock07879
      @rock07879 5 років тому +3

      Load of bollocks. Ballymurphy residents/IRA were shooting into Protestant houses. You just whine when someone shoots back at you.

  • @matty6848
    @matty6848 2 роки тому +3

    So in 1971 you could buy a mansion out in the posh suburbs for 20K. 20k won’t even buy you a bed sit now. Crazy how house prices have exploded. Even though people earned less back then it wasn’t relevant to todays house prices and peoples wages. No wonder so many live in rented accommodation or have 30 year plus mortgages.

  • @keeperlit.leterrip7722
    @keeperlit.leterrip7722 2 роки тому +1

    A typical day indeed. I remember the news reports on tv were similar every day for years.

  • @mlindsey2956
    @mlindsey2956 5 років тому +3

    15:16 Her husband was 100% right.

  • @edwardalexander9486
    @edwardalexander9486 5 років тому +2

    Yup as many have said, that outstanding man (i.e., someone normal looking out for his family) starting at 19:00 said it all about the ongoing stupidity of NI and, well, just us generally as a species. PS - there is no god.

  • @dylanj.wadham5103
    @dylanj.wadham5103 3 роки тому

    Am I going mad or is that Bernadette Devlin who walks by in the yellow jacket at 2:00?

    • @ThePlataf
      @ThePlataf 3 роки тому

      No, it's not Bernadette

  • @matthewarmitage6681
    @matthewarmitage6681 3 роки тому +1

    I was born 12/08/71 it's crazy to think this was happening

  • @BreakerBreakerYeo
    @BreakerBreakerYeo 4 роки тому +5

    Can a good honest Catholic and a good honest protestant tell me how the troubles started? I would like to hear from the 2 different sides ? houses don't get burnt like that for nothing so tell the truth, please.

    • @Chubbstain
      @Chubbstain 4 роки тому +3

      Garry Creighton NI was made after the rebellion in South of Ireland by Protestants that wanted to stay British and feared repercussions from staying in the South, I know various friends who’s families were from the South but moved North due to violence against them. Naturally that turned a lot of Protestants sour to Catholics in the North and made them restrict their lives unfairly with it only getting more so as IRA activity ramped up, a positive feedback in a way. The divides were small things from the past, Ethno-Religious became Ethno-Political in the modern era, this divide was only increased as more events happened.

    • @grettajoyce3204
      @grettajoyce3204 4 роки тому +3

      The Civil Rights movement gives a clue. It was seeking one man one vote and was beaten, bullied and defeated by Unionist intransigence.

    • @meyou-gi8xq
      @meyou-gi8xq 2 роки тому

      @@grettajoyce3204 just about sums it up in one sentence. Catholics treated unequally in all aspects of society pre 1969 i.e housing, employment, education, etc. and then 'given the stick' when they protested. NI government created the circumstances for what happened.

    • @seanbarrett2629
      @seanbarrett2629 2 роки тому

      If the protestents who migrated to the north of lreland in the 16 th and 17 th centuries educated their children that they lived in a different country, and had some sympathy for all the wrongs perpatrated on the lrish people maby they might have intergrated more over time, education is the key.

  • @RUDI-UK
    @RUDI-UK 4 роки тому +7

    Mr Gunn's story is my family story multiplied by three. We were put out of the Glen, Gobnascale and Strathfoyle in Londonderry, for being British citizens.

    • @jacquiewalton1996
      @jacquiewalton1996 4 роки тому +1

      'Rudi' I'm SO sorry to hear that !

    • @RUDI-UK
      @RUDI-UK 4 роки тому

      @@jacquiewalton1996 I'm sure you are you dirty taig bitch

    • @jacquiewalton83
      @jacquiewalton83 4 роки тому +1

      @@RUDI-UK Temper, temper 'Rudi' ...are you a little bit miffed ?

    • @meyou-gi8xq
      @meyou-gi8xq 2 роки тому +1

      When did you emigrate to Ireland from GB?

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 2 роки тому

      All about Ulster Scots Presbyterians Unionists and Loyalists not about Mr Gunn story isn't bigot

  • @monkeybubblessupperdude1016
    @monkeybubblessupperdude1016 5 років тому +2

    Who the fuck in their right mind would want to live in that environment.

  • @mcp1228
    @mcp1228 3 роки тому +1

    the fact the troubles started over a civil right campaign is crazy

  • @gremlinuk1968
    @gremlinuk1968 3 роки тому +3

    Born 23rd May 1968, from northern Ireland UK, ♥️🇬🇧🤝 , have family from both sides, & we all want to stay in the UK, ♥️🇬🇧🤝

  • @georgebrowne5935
    @georgebrowne5935 3 роки тому +4

    The Partitioning of the Six Counties from Ireland in 1921 was a disastrous Mistake from the British Government, it placed a Land Border on Land, and in the Mindset of both People's living there.
    Catholics and Protestants live side by side in the Republic of Ireland as Equals with no violence.

    • @radicallyrethinkingrailwaysina
      @radicallyrethinkingrailwaysina 11 днів тому

      The mistakes was the Normans right through Cromwell and the 1700s and right up to 1922 people from the larger island in the archipelago trying to dominate the smaller ones.

  • @Alex-gn2rb
    @Alex-gn2rb 2 роки тому +2

    Wasn't this a major factor that moderates on all sides fled with their families leaving behind those who could not or would not therefore entrenching sectarianism even deeper and into the open arms of the paramilitary ideologies.

  • @saaversteen
    @saaversteen 3 роки тому +2

    interesting to hear folk were actively segregating themselves before the walls went up. the footage from bryson street and thistle street was obviously pre wall yet folk were saying they felt safer by moving just a street along. i felt bad for mr gunn and equally bad for others that must've tried to hold on and refused to be intimidated by the mob. how many found themselves on the 'wrong' side post partition? i'm not from there so have no idea but can surmise not many. nobody could expect to live like that for any length of time.

  • @primark3901
    @primark3901 5 років тому +4

    You’d never imagine in a thousand years think that this stuff could happen on British soil, on our front door step in the place we call home!

    • @patrickconnors4602
      @patrickconnors4602 4 роки тому +1

      Irish soil. That's what all this shite is over. Its our country, you would not like it if we divided and partitioned your country after invading it.

  • @amanb8698
    @amanb8698 5 років тому +2

    Religion is so ridiculous. The fact they harassed him over being Catholic is so stupid. Heck, I'm an American who is the product of a Protestant father and a Roman Catholic mother. I'm Secular and Socialist. We as Socialists don't care about organized religion. We don't discriminate based on your religion. We just want a strong secular state. We also don't discriminate based on race or ethnicity or gender. We actually view all religion as a distraction ultimately. Protestant or Catholic it doesn't matter. Both are to be kept in private domains and out of government. Socialism is about equality.

    • @greglyons2526
      @greglyons2526 5 років тому +2

      Has nothing to do with religion. Its nationalism.
      Catholics want to be part of the republic as they see themselves Irish and protestants seeing themselves as British want to stay part of the UK.
      There have been protestants in the IRA and INLA. It's a war over land and not something eing fought on theological grounds.Im from Ireland by the way.

    • @Super241946
      @Super241946 4 роки тому +1

      Secular and socialist.......worse than being either Catholic or Protestant. You sir are very dangerous!!!

    • @amanb8698
      @amanb8698 4 роки тому

      @@Super241946 Dangerous to Capitalists, Imperialists, Fascists, and Racists

  • @sineadnichoirbin7232
    @sineadnichoirbin7232 5 років тому +5

    "The children are defying the British army". 😂🤣😂🤣

    • @rock07879
      @rock07879 5 років тому +3

      Interesting point - these houses were burned out by rampaging catholic mobs venting their sectarian hatred. But then that is how you spread your equality and kkkulture isn't it.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 5 років тому

      @Paul Nolan that's what the reporter said

    • @pauladee3506
      @pauladee3506 5 років тому

      @@rock07879
      That is completely untrue.
      Tell me this, how's that bitter wee Frazer bastard doing the day, any word of him fucking off yet, surely he can't have much longer.
      *SATAN'S WAITING*

    • @caleb4790
      @caleb4790 4 роки тому

      Sinéad Ní Choirbín they cant take authority that’s what’s wrong with the world, they should be hit a smack like any bad child

    • @Piarás.Ruairí.McGroggan.420
      @Piarás.Ruairí.McGroggan.420 3 роки тому

      @@rock07879 your a header mate 😂

  • @chrisroger8774
    @chrisroger8774 4 роки тому +1

    I am preparing for next place

  • @johnny450gf
    @johnny450gf 5 років тому +4

    i hope the man at the end got his wish

  • @BreakerBreakerYeo
    @BreakerBreakerYeo 4 роки тому +4

    6 attacks at the end of this video and it all came from the Catholics, blowing up a bar,rocket attack,gun attack,

    • @irishboer7124
      @irishboer7124 4 роки тому +8

      The oppressed fight back- what a surprise...

    • @JuneJarka
      @JuneJarka 4 роки тому

      There was economic, political and social inequality operating across the board by the Protestant majority towards the Catholic minority which had been happening since the time of Elizabeth I. I have put these links in for educational purposes only. See: www.jstor.org/stable/24457590?seq=1, and www.jstor.org/stable/42857929?seq=1, journals.openedition.org/etudesirlandaises/1743?lang=en.
      The way that some members of the Catholic population was treated affected of their attitudes towards Protestants and the British Army. See: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/23/families-troubles-victims-vexatious-northern-ireland, www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/03/troubles-uk-failures-good-friday-agreement-law-un, www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/18/dismay-over-uk-plan-to-close-unsolved-troubles-cases, www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/oct/26/troubles-legacy-mps-condemn-downing-street-plans-close-cases, www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/20/northern-ireland-suicides-troubles-death-toll.
      www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/22/why-were-troubles-so-bloody-this-helps-explain/.
      There is a great deal of unresolved inter generational and trans generational trauma in northern Ireland due to the violence of those years of conflict. See also: www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/dec/12/david-cameron-pat-finucane-murder, www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/14/troubles-psni-northern-ireland-police-accused-of-loyalist-collusion.
      Unfortunately, political motives and aspects come into play in tragedies like this. It’s unavoidable. Both sides suffered in the conflict, and people were harmed. See: www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/world/europe/paramilitary-attacks-northern-ireland.html. With Brexit and high unemployment figures in some deprived areas, some people are turning to crime to establish control over others in their own communities. And that’s sad.

    • @mog2134
      @mog2134 3 роки тому +1

      @@JuneJarka same in the south against the Protestants

    • @JuneJarka
      @JuneJarka 3 роки тому

      @@mog2134 Thank you for your reply. I do NOT condone violence of any kind, nor terror by anyone, regardless of their political views. I feel that the IRA never had a chance against the British Army or MI5. See: www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/jun/26/northernireland.northernireland. See: www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/08/pat-finucane-mi5-destroyed-investigation-files-into-alleged-collusion, www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/30/pat-finucane-murder-a-pitiless-act-and-a-political-storm, www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/feb/26/northernireland.ireland and www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/oct/15/uk-arms-northern-ireland-loyalist-massacre. I feel that the IRA couldn’t compete with that level of assistance. Also see: www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/jun/14/northernireland.rosiecowan.

    • @meyou-gi8xq
      @meyou-gi8xq 2 роки тому +2

      @@mog2134 no it wasn't.

  • @Nonnachella
    @Nonnachella 6 років тому +9

    What a mess and for what?

    • @johndouglas5712
      @johndouglas5712 5 років тому +1

      Because Ulster will always be British

    • @johndouglas5712
      @johndouglas5712 5 років тому

      @Paul Nolan The DUP stood for Brexit . Good enough for me

    • @johndouglas5712
      @johndouglas5712 5 років тому

      @Paul Nolan We did'nt bloody fight to stay British to be ruled by useless cunts in Brussels

    • @corkboy4523
      @corkboy4523 5 років тому

      john douglas you’d rather destroy your economy and your children’s future

    • @johndouglas5712
      @johndouglas5712 5 років тому

      John Mulcahy sheep

  • @sineadnichoirbin7232
    @sineadnichoirbin7232 5 років тому +7

    Justice for Ballymurphy. Absolutely horrendous almost 50 years later!

    • @rock07879
      @rock07879 5 років тому +5

      Why? They fired at innocent Protestants and at soldiers and were fired at in defence. Maybe justice for La Mon, or Darkley, or Claudy, or Teebane, or Kingsmill, or Abercorn, ???? Or Paul Quinn? Or Robert McCartney? Or does that not suit your fascist ideology or kkkulture?

    • @01HILARYKEEGAN
      @01HILARYKEEGAN 5 років тому

      @l g *You're, as in 'you are '. Peace to you from Derry City!!

    • @johngreen6567
      @johngreen6567 5 років тому +5

      Ronnie the people who died or injured were innocent, it has been proved for god's sake.

    • @aviationiceman9549
      @aviationiceman9549 5 років тому +2

      Sinéad Ní Choirbín justice for all the IRA murder victims!

    • @aviationiceman9549
      @aviationiceman9549 5 років тому +2

      Thurman Merman pretty simple, they murdered women children and unborn babies didn’t they?

  • @Micker375
    @Micker375 3 роки тому +1

    Edward seems to be the smartest person in Belfast. If only they all had his cop on.

  • @ULHIS
    @ULHIS 4 роки тому +2

    What did we do to ourselves.

  • @john-ducky
    @john-ducky Місяць тому

    Neil Edward Gunn - 13 Oct 1946-17 Aug 2001. R.I.P.

  • @demoror5585
    @demoror5585 2 роки тому +1

    “20.000 pound house” then shows a big ass house