I'm grateful for this video and these recordings of number four on the Manitou and pikes peak railway. Now that the railroad had to rebuild and change the cog system set up for the railroad number, four will never operate again on these rails now. These are all just precious memories, but we're fortunate enough that we got to see this in our lifetimes.
As a kid with my parents I did the trip up and back in 1957. It was a lot of fun. That engine is now on display at the Colorado Railroad Museum. I am glad they still keeping #4 in operating condition.
My first and only ride was also in '57. The railroad was 66 years old back then. So I figured 2023 would be 66 more years since that '57 ride, and I wanted to get back out there, but life intervened. Maybe I'll shoot for 2089, 66 years from 2023, when I'll be 142 years old. Not holding my breath for that to happen, though.😂🤣😂 We should just be satisfied with memories of those fun times, I guess.
It takes a half a ton of coal And a blast or two of air A little spark to light it up Tender loving care Add a little water and a pinch or two of time And long before you know it, steam's a-comin' through the line
It gives away my age but as a kid we did the steam engine run and that engine is now in the Colorado Railway Museum. It would be fun to take grandkids there when they re-open.
I love steam engines as well as Colorado Springs and Pikes Peak. I think I rode behind #4. ,around 1956. I was born in Colorado Springs. Still ride steam trains when I can.
worked on the cog RR for 2 seasons in the early 80's. didn't pay shit but was a pretty cool job. Well tie season (removing rotted or otherwise bad rr ties and installing new, all by hand no machines to help. and at 10,000 ft oxygen was a tad thin)wasn't much fun!!! What they should have showed you was their massive v12 diesel snowblower in action !!!!
Too bad the railroad is shut down now, because the equipment was worn out. The official web page says it's expected to be reopened in 2021. Let's hope nothing keeps that from happening. It's such a great attraction.
gmaneis Sadly heritage operation is over. The historic Railcar and diesel engine have already arrived at Golden, and most expect 4 and her coach to follow in the future.
Yes, it reopened two or three years ago. No steam engines now, but super looking trains that appear to be filled to capacity a lot of the time. So great to see that. @@west_side_9
this is my favorite american tank engine of all time....I hope the engine gets to run somewhere....the drivers are directly connected to the pistons, so it could run on standard gauge track without the need of the rack rail
How do they go about going down the hill? I can't help but think they would leave the Johnson bar in forward and slowly give it a little steam for resistance, instead of using just the brake shoes.
Crazy Harry the Muppet Needs 2 water towers. I always thought it would be worse the investment for the reward from tourist money, but now they are regauging so likely the opposite, no runs.
That is just what those old boilers do when you're running them full speed ahead - shooting flames out the side is normal. Pretty impressive in person.
I think all of the locos are still in existence but on display except for No. 4. They were built by Baldwin Locomotive Works with the new Vauclain compound feature which uses steam twice before being exhausted up the stack for draft. The small cylinder is the high pressure one and the other( on top) is the low pressure one. Both piston rods share a crosshead which is connected to the main rod. Water is sprayed into the cylinders when coming down the mountain to create steam by the compression of the pistons to provide a cushion and control instead of just brakes. So far as I know, there has never been a passenger fatality on the railroad. Several people have died hiking up or down the mountain.
Well you're in luck pal, it's reopening this month, the railroad themselves confirmed it. No date has been announced yet at this time, but they're aiming for an opening date this month
@@microbusss As of right now, #4 is currently temporarily stored at the Grand Canyon Railway on display outside of their station, she's still serviceable from what I've heard, once the PPCR reopens, she should head back down there in no time at all and steam up again for the near future
Will Horowitz The halfway house and summit water tanks are long gone. The most economic way to remedy this would either be tank car bodies, or the bladder type tanks the California Western has used. Sadly now they are regauging or reracking the line so 4 will likely follow the 1935 diesel and its streamlined coach to Golden, sadly ending heritage operation at yet another line due to regauging.
No, it broke while we were filming it on a test run and I'm pretty sure this was the last time it ever ran. It was shipped to Grand Canyon Railway to be on exhibit in 2019 while they rebuilt the main cog railway train, and I believe it is still there.
@@rogerlollar4325 I don't think so. Its on display now at the Grand Canyon, so it would take a lot to get it running, and most importantly, there aren't many men left who know how to run it.
Actually, the city recently approved a pair of tax incentives to fund restoration of the entire railway. If all goes to plan, they'll restart operation in 2020.
Oh, women drive engines all the time! I met a nice woman driver at the Durango and Silverton who drove a K-36 2-8-2 mikado to and from Silverton! alot of times with heritage operations, its really about who volunteers at the railroad, and who is actually willing to drive the engines! There are more women getting interested in steam locomotives, it's just a matter of them wanting to drive....I would give anything to get behind the regulator of a steam loco lol
@@thomastsangthomas1616 Not entirely sure, It would be awesome if they did, though! Either way, in the modern era there certainly are women engine drivers!
More often than not, its a matter of volunteers and who is willing to participate...the time I rode on the Pikes Peak railroad I had a woman conductor on our train and she did a GREAT job of making the ride enjoyable! She told jokes and pointed out interesting things along the route...I hope to one day return and ride again!
I'm grateful for this video and these recordings of number four on the Manitou and pikes peak railway. Now that the railroad had to rebuild and change the cog system set up for the railroad number, four will never operate again on these rails now. These are all just precious memories, but we're fortunate enough that we got to see this in our lifetimes.
@@RailsofMichigan thank you! I was very fortunate indeed to get to ride and film on that engine for what turned out to be it’s last run.
As a kid with my parents I did the trip up and back in 1957. It was a lot of fun. That engine is now on display at the Colorado Railroad Museum. I am glad they still keeping #4 in operating condition.
You're in luck pal, the railroad is reopening this month, no date has been announced yet, but they confirmed that they're aiming for a May reopening
My first and only ride was also in '57. The railroad was 66 years old back then. So I figured 2023 would be 66 more years since that '57 ride, and I wanted to get back out there, but life intervened. Maybe I'll shoot for 2089, 66 years from 2023, when I'll be 142 years old. Not holding my breath for that to happen, though.😂🤣😂 We should just be satisfied with memories of those fun times, I guess.
2:02 "We got a warzone going on in there!" (LOL)
I might be inclined to visit this railroad some day down the road.
I see what you did there lol
It takes a half a ton of coal
And a blast or two of air
A little spark to light it up
Tender loving care
Add a little water and a pinch or two of time
And long before you know it, steam's a-comin' through the line
Just keep on going
Well all be fine
It gives away my age but as a kid we did the steam engine run and that engine is now in the Colorado Railway Museum. It would be fun to take grandkids there when they re-open.
This is a steam locomotive of history that has been preserved for many years that is exactly what it is
I love steam engines as well as Colorado Springs and Pikes Peak. I think I rode behind #4. ,around 1956. I was born in Colorado Springs. Still ride steam trains when I can.
Maybe it was one of the GE diesels I rode behind, but.i sure remember seeing one of the original engines.
03:15 that kid with the hod over it's head at the right side of the screen nearly gave me a heart attack
worked on the cog RR for 2 seasons in the early 80's. didn't pay shit but was a pretty cool job. Well tie season (removing rotted or otherwise bad rr ties and installing new, all by hand no machines to help. and at 10,000 ft oxygen was a tad thin)wasn't much fun!!! What they should have showed you was their massive v12 diesel snowblower in action !!!!
Man they actually get moving along at a pretty good clip up the hills
Not being able to slip certainly helps :P
The rods are very interesting
Too bad the railroad is shut down now, because the equipment was worn out. The official web page says it's expected to be reopened in 2021. Let's hope nothing keeps that from happening. It's such a great attraction.
gmaneis Sadly heritage operation is over. The historic Railcar and diesel engine have already arrived at Golden, and most expect 4 and her coach to follow in the future.
@@jacobwoods8738 At least it won't be scrapped if it's there, even thought it's not the same as being at its first home.
They recently reopened,
Yes, it reopened two or three years ago. No steam engines now, but super looking trains that appear to be filled to capacity a lot of the time. So great to see that. @@west_side_9
Steam locomotives on every railroad are part of History to
I agree each railway is a part of history.
I did the Mount Washington one last week.
this is my favorite american tank engine of all time....I hope the engine gets to run somewhere....the drivers are directly connected to the pistons, so it could run on standard gauge track without the need of the rack rail
Wheels float on bearings on the axle, the rods will move but you won't go anywhere.
this hybrid seems nice
Great video
The whole RR is always down for repairs or refurbishment when we visit. Never been able to ride it.
I was there in June of 2018 ans it's closed indefinitely for repairs!!
That engine sounds much quieter and looks faster than the mount tom cog railway.
What country is that in?
Colorado, USA
@@finleyholiday I've been in Colorado
Ces fabuleux trains a crémaillères
Eux aussi font partie du monde MAGIQUE DES CHEMI'S DE FERS
JE LES ADORES CES CHERS CHEMI'S DE FERS
What!? When do they use this engine? I went on the diesel one but it was still a awesome ride either way.
Very rare and special occasions. The last time I heard about it was in 2016.
2:02 GOOD GOD JUMP OFF THE LOCOMOTIVE BEFORE IT EXPLODES!!!!
great sounding whistle who makes it?
How do they go about going down the hill? I can't help but think they would leave the Johnson bar in forward and slowly give it a little steam for resistance, instead of using just the brake shoes.
They used to put water in the cylinders for resistance, but I'm not sure what they do these days.
4%???? The slauda grade witch was a mainline was 5% and cass runs trains at better then 10% yall are much steeper or course but saying 4 is inaccurate
2:03 That looks rather terrifying.
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do they still operate the locomotive? when i went in 2012 it was on display
we still operate it on special occasions.
oohh ok
There are many of the locomotives. #4 is the only operational one. There are a couple on permanent display, most likely the one you saw.
Shame it cant go all the way to the summit, but I understand that there is no longer the infrastructure required to allow it.
Crazy Harry the Muppet Needs 2 water towers. I always thought it would be worse the investment for the reward from tourist money, but now they are regauging so likely the opposite, no runs.
What's the latest on number 4?
It’s on display in Williams AZ. At the Grand Canyon Railway hotel and depot.
2:04
It's funny, no.4 is very similar to the Snowdon Mountain Railway's no.4 Snowdon
R.J.P. & Shinning Time Station and Culdee fell Railway
2:04 that don’t look good😂 what’s going on?
That is just what those old boilers do when you're running them full speed ahead - shooting flames out the side is normal. Pretty impressive in person.
so did all the engine's survive the scrap yards
I think all of the locos are still in existence but on display except for No. 4. They were built by Baldwin Locomotive Works with the new Vauclain compound feature which uses steam twice before being exhausted up the stack for draft. The small cylinder is the high pressure one and the other( on top) is the low pressure one. Both piston rods share a crosshead which is connected to the main rod.
Water is sprayed into the cylinders when coming down the mountain to create steam by the compression of the pistons to provide a cushion and control instead of just brakes.
So far as I know, there has never been a passenger fatality on the railroad. Several people have died hiking up or down the mountain.
Roy Reynolds thanks
number 3 crashed on the mountain.
I HOPE this railroad gets reopened soon!!
Well you're in luck pal, it's reopening this month, the railroad themselves confirmed it. No date has been announced yet at this time, but they're aiming for an opening date this month
@@shanewalters4171 yup I been watching
cost $100 million to rebuild
they started from the top down rebuilding it
@@microbusss Indeed they did, it just shows how dedicated they are with their work, always puts a smile on our faces:)
@@shanewalters4171 yeah! fun would be to get a steam loco on the track hehe
@@microbusss As of right now, #4 is currently temporarily stored at the Grand Canyon Railway on display outside of their station, she's still serviceable from what I've heard, once the PPCR reopens, she should head back down there in no time at all and steam up again for the near future
Why not go all the way to the summit with her?
Will Horowitz The halfway house and summit water tanks are long gone. The most economic way to remedy this would either be tank car bodies, or the bladder type tanks the California Western has used. Sadly now they are regauging or reracking the line so 4 will likely follow the 1935 diesel and its streamlined coach to Golden, sadly ending heritage operation at yet another line due to regauging.
@@jacobwoods8738 Golden? where is that?
Do they still use this locomotive in 2022?
No, it broke while we were filming it on a test run and I'm pretty sure this was the last time it ever ran. It was shipped to Grand Canyon Railway to be on exhibit in 2019 while they rebuilt the main cog railway train, and I believe it is still there.
@@finleyholiday will she ever run again
@@rogerlollar4325 I don't think so. Its on display now at the Grand Canyon, so it would take a lot to get it running, and most importantly, there aren't many men left who know how to run it.
@@finleyholiday 😔😪
@@finleyholiday Last operations of #4 occurred in October of 2017, it was actually under steam the day the railroad announced closure for the rebuild.
Whats very sad for the pikes peak railroad is that its permanently closed:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
It's reopened.
holy shit its 911 in a firebox
Sigi strasser
Shame they thinking about canning it
Too bad the entire railroad had to shut down.
Actually, the city recently approved a pair of tax incentives to fund restoration of the entire railway. If all goes to plan, they'll restart operation in 2020.
BNSF1995 it better or I am going to cry
This looks like a cool locomotive
I wonder if they will allow woman touch the control of these steam locomotives?
Oh, women drive engines all the time! I met a nice woman driver at the Durango and Silverton who drove a K-36 2-8-2 mikado to and from Silverton! alot of times with heritage operations, its really about who volunteers at the railroad, and who is actually willing to drive the engines! There are more women getting interested in steam locomotives, it's just a matter of them wanting to drive....I would give anything to get behind the regulator of a steam loco lol
@@EpsilonR_ so did woman drive trains back in the 1930s?
I certainly hope they did♥️
@@thomastsangthomas1616 Not entirely sure, It would be awesome if they did, though! Either way, in the modern era there certainly are women engine drivers!
@@EpsilonR_ okay
@@EpsilonR_ let me tell you something amazing. Would you like to hear it?😃
I request this railway should have more female conductors, for the sake for feminist.
More often than not, its a matter of volunteers and who is willing to participate...the time I rode on the Pikes Peak railroad I had a woman conductor on our train and she did a GREAT job of making the ride enjoyable! She told jokes and pointed out interesting things along the route...I hope to one day return and ride again!