How can the Pacific Northwest meet the growing need for electricity?
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- With climate change progressing, the Pacific Northwest is "woefully behind" when it comes to building the infrastructure needed to keep up with the growing demand.
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Kick out the data centers until you build more power plants for the people
Our apartments have solar panels. My bill this month is $17! It was $23 last month. It's awesome.
Data centers can and should shutdown when demand demands it. They should always take a back seat to residents.Additionally, residents need to have battery storage to deal with peaks.
Mandate data centers supply the equivalent average solar or wind power to offset their average power usage over each year.
Fortunately hydro power is plentiful in NW winters, and our geograply would allow for more pumped hydro long term energy storage.
Power utilities need to replace some old pylon power lines with newer cables that have twice the power capacity.
More solar systems in desert regions, with big LFP battery storage and buried high-voltage DC lines to population centers will help.
You need to build huge solar farms, especially in eastern Oregon and Washington. In California two huge solar farms came online in February, 2024. One near Monterey, the other in the Mojave desert next to Edwards AFB. It's so large it can be seen from space. They also have backup battery modules the size of shipping containers which contain used electric car batteries which are still useable. The batteries charge during the day and come online around 5:00 pm. We have just gone through two weeks of 114 degree heat with no rolling blackouts and no flex alerts issued. First time this has ever happened. I think more solar farms are in the works since this has proven so successful.
Nuclear? Hydrogen?
Can we please think of some source for energy that we don't literally have to burn things or create million year waste piles?
Like how about the several wave energy fields being put up off the Oregon Coast? How about everyone just generate energy in the best way they can in the location they are in - the wind is almost always blowing in NE PDX, the hot springs are always hot in the mountains, there are so many ways to collect energy from around us it's starting to seem ridiculous to invest in these overarching huge bloated slow solutions that can't react to changes in needs or environmental impact.
Boost home storage and power return incentives and people will respond. We all like clean air, we all like our power, we can have both.
Why is this piece even existing when it's basically FUD, and bad FUD at that because I can't even tell what they really want - what was the point of this?
Zero Axis wind generator. Better than windmills by far. That and hydroelectric power from the fluctuations of the tides.
Get rid of the Damages that Dams do. True sustainability from nature with little impact's
Use less. Most new power stations on the western grid (WECC is its acronym) run on natural gas, which is a finite resource. Conventional nat. gas peaked in 1973 and is in sharp decline. Fracked gas has been a big boom in the past decade and a half, surpassing the 1973 peak, but fracked wells deplete faster than conventional wells. Conservation and reduction of demand is the only way forward.
Nate Hagens fan, too?
Build solar with the more sunlight we are getting with our “weather changes”
Hydro power is the cleanest energy use..
How about not tearing out all the dams...just sayin
Stop trying to get rid of fossil fuel!!!’ Drill baby drill!!!!!!
how much coal power has to be used for residential so green energy can run the data centers and EV's?
Slow down the shift to EV's, since the infrastructure isn't even close to being ready for widespread adoption, and focus on emissions standards for ICE vehicles and SULEV hybrids. At the same time, incentivize living close to high density cities and living close to work or public transportation. Then, push the breaks on the AI mania, since there's ABSOLUTELY no critical need for this frivolous stuff until society has solved more fundamental issues like inflation, cost of living, housing affordability, homelessness, addiction crisis, chronic health issues, etc. Why do we just take as a given that demand for electricity needs to outstrip supply just because of the whims of tech oligarchs who have their own selfish ambitions about where they should misallocate their ill begotten capital. It's time for Americans to wake up and push back against the oligarch overlords and insist on prioritizing real life issues rather than BS like cryptocurrencies, space exploration, autonomous robo-taxis, flying taxis, the metaverse, AI chatbots, etc. We're all being duped. Our government created policies that sent all the wealth to a tiny elite, and now they are in control of the narrative. Time for average folk to take back control of the narrative.
Make all the illegsls petal generators.
You would need about 500 billion pedal generators. Start rounding them up!
Cut off Path 26 & 66, which exports up to 7800 MW of our power to Los Angeles! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_66
Then you've got eight million people coming your way wondering what was wrong and they're angry.