I think they chrome plate those caps !! lol. Have used this myself, might try the gloss black underneath on something, could help make the chrome paint pop a bit.
@@lesskinner8588 That does sound like interesting to know advice that seems to help. If i dont get a proper chromium tank setup or that electroplated spray version, then i'll try the gloss black paint undercoat, however, it appears as if the first time a dot of gas or snotrockets that hit the surface of the dry chrome paint, its going to etch itself into place as some bubbling up was observed in the video when he tried putting a solvent based clearcoat rather than a waterbased clearcoat on it. To make chrome look more real, i've been using a method that was made popular in autobody shops in the 60's, i smoke copious amounts of the devil's lettuce and that produces a high gloss to the surface of the lenses of the eyes, and from the coughing it can really get a good coat of fluid on the eyes held in place with surface tension. Cheers and happy chroming!
A few tips if you're doing chrome paint. Always use black primer that will make for the glossiest most reflective chrome effect. And if you're using a clear coat the chrome paint must dry at least 24 hours and be fully hardened. At that point put the clear coat on in very light coats that way the solvent in the paint doesn't break down the chrome underneath.
@@KeepOnWrenching, A black primer base is not enough. The color of the primer does not matter, what matters is to use a first layer of very shiny black paint with a mirror effect as pronounced as possible for a better result. The chrome paint should generally be sprayed in light strokes, but it depends of the brand.
Goes dull soon has you touch it or when it gets wet. just get them plated or get a plating kit believe me you'll be going in circle's useing these replica crome paint's
@@KeepOnWrenching It isn't that bad. No one expects spray paint to look like actual chrome. It's better than rusty parts, and if you're on a budget why not do what you can to dress the bike up as best you can. The main thing is to get that bike out on the road.
I sand and prep the part, then i clear coat it, then i sand it just enough to break the glaze, then i spray the chrome paint, then i spray a final clear coat, the final results come out really nice every time, great video, thanks 👍.
The reason that clear reacted to the chrome paint is because the clear was lacquer based and the chrome paint was enamel based. You can put enamel over lacquer but you cannot put lacquer over enamel
I have a small oven that has a potentiometer type heat control. It can function down to 35-40C. When the paint or lacquer has 'gone off', the oven can be ramped up, to bake the coating. The lacquer becomes very hard. Due to the wide range of constituents, the best option is to research the coatings to discover the ideal temperature & time settings. The info is out there, because it's needed in a production environment. There's nothing better than a rock hard lacquered component.
Well presented ! Thanks Krylon is excellent spray bomb paint ! And I’ve had exceptional results for over 30 years touching up small stuff in my Body/paint shop.
If you use krylon or rustoleum clear over their paints, you either have to spray it while to base is still wet, or wait about 4 days. The clear "re-activates" the base until it's fully cured. You can also polish she base once it's cured. Also, SprayMax 2K clear for the win.
I was thinking same thing while watching. I did cringe a little when sprayed over grey filler primer. A gloss black undercoat would help with the reflection and brightness of the chrome paint.
Agreed. His punch and jab technique has me wanting to reach out and grab his arm. Sloooooooow down, smooth strokes back and forth. Start at one side and move across slowly. Let the paint flow on in thin, even strokes. Back away from the item as well.
OMG. I hate to see a heavy coat. What ever happened to the 1st flash coat. VHT paint has the best chrome like coating. I was f****** yelling at them through the TV
You got a 👍at the 11 minute mark. I'm doing a retro mod on my 81 CB900 Custom so my attention perked right up. Your bike is a beauty. And going for a ride beats watching paint dry every time!
First thing is that after cleaning and prepping the parts you should use a tac cloth to remove dust and oils from your fingers left behind. Then primer but always wear latex gloves to handle parts. Then scuff and use tac cloth again. Finally paint.... but always be sure that primer, paint and clear coat are all compatible with each other and all should be by same company (in your case, krylon). Also for small parts a clean uncluttered area is better and using a turntable makes everything so much easier.
I have used this chrome quite a bit , What I have found is it varies so much between brands to how ( chrome like ) it is , Also it makes a big difference if you spray it over white not grey primer .
Polyurethane will dry and can be recoated. Lacquer will always dissolve the coat below it. If you let lacquer dry a long time you can get lucky with some clear coats though.
spray the parts with a coat of gloss black, let them dry real good, then spray the parts with the Krylon Chrome spray. the chrome spray will have a deeper shine.
The spaztic i think its called does have a black basecoat for their chrome paint. Ive seen some videos of it and it doesn't look to far off from real chrome.
This spray actually did the best job i've seen from a spray can, although not a real chrome finish. For me, all the "chrome" rattle cans i've used in the past were JUST A SILVER paint!
Hi Brian, I've had no end of trouble with Rustoleum clear coat [even over Rustoleum Gold/Chrome paints] I switched over to VHT quick dry clear and the problems went away. I sometimes sprays cloudy but dries clear, and gives the base coat depth. Next time you try this , do 3 steps on top of the primer. 1: a base metallic for depth 2: the actual chrome paint applied thinly 3: VHT clear. And be Patient waiting. I had fantastic results spraying Gold Chrome onto Vases doing the above method [it was difficult to tell from plating]
I'm starting my 360T rebuild soon. Chrome is going to be tough. I think I'll do the chassis painting myself but the tank and side panels will need a professional touch. I expect the engine clean up and polishing will be tough. A few of the parts (mostly anything plastic) will need replacing. I decided to go with a laser printed side panels because it was just too hard to find the originals that weren't in bad shape. The slits just get too fragile and break. Last one I got I had to get from Sweden and was held together with hope and glue. The hope ran out when the glue gave way. Love the channel Wrench dude.
Another You tuber who also does spray paint videos, suggested allowing the paint to completely cure before applying clear coat. I haven’t tried it yet, but hey...it’s worth a shot.
I plan to spray my contact lenses with Krylon Chrome. I'll scuff them up with fine sandpaper and spray a coat of primer, of course. Can't wait to see how it works.
@@KeepOnWrenching , "Need a rug??" What? Why would I need a rug? I could use a rag and a dab of paint remover though. Hold on a sec. I think Elvis is at the door.
I think the results especially from a rattle can are pretty good, if you you want mirror finish then more money is spent, you only get what you pay for.
@@KeepOnWrenching I am starting to despise that saying the longer I live...It's not even true. Sometimes you pay out the ass, and get junk. Parts or service that aren't even of high quality. Channels like Project Farm prove it, as far as actual items, as opposed to service.
Not bad. I was redoing a Camaro not long back. Same situation as you. I got ahold of a guy from a Google search. Mailed out the pieces. It was super reasonable, and they came back like new. Paint is good but you can always tell.
Well, that's better than I expected. Most spray-can "chrome" has a nicely chromed top, and plain ol' silver paint in the can. There's a company out there (Alsa) that claims to make paint that really does look like chrome, but they want about forty bucks for a spray can. That lets me out. Oh, by the way -- love the old 350! Great bikes.
I use that premium metallic and found if you do a gloss black first and let dry for a couple of days, then do the metallic over that it gives an even better chrome look. 🙂
Really liked the way the parts looked after they were painted, Also the way You took time to paint another piece of metal with the clear coat to check for runs,bubbling up,or dulling of the finish
Wait for the Chrome paint to Cure before attempting Clear Coat. Read the label on the Chrome can to see what the cure time, although I believe 5 to 7 days wait is best. It's also best to try the Chrome and clear coat combination on a piece of metal prior to doing the project to make sure everything is compatible. Sometimes cloudiness can also come from there being too much humidity in the air. Lots of good ventilation in the area where your painting will be helpful with all paint jobs. It doesn't have to be a wind tunnel just some lightly moving, exchanging, air. And of course take your time, have lots of patience, and that will most often give you the nicest finished project. It's all fun! Enjoy!
Tip for the future: when you're spraying chrome, to get a finish that REALLY mimics chrome, you want to throw on a high gloss black base coat first. It's a night and day difference!
@@TheDon5812 I always use 3 coats and it's given me the same effect as when I used the rustoleum high gloss black as a base coat. Is there something I'm missing?
You have to let the paint dry for at least 24hours before you put on the clear coat , and another thing, if those covers are engine covers the paint is going to peel off due to the heat , you have to use ceramic coating paint sold at your local auto shop.
There have been some serious advances in powder coating and with japanese brightwork and its peeling, pitting and corrosion being so common, there's new materials that mimic chrome as well or better than conventional spray enamels and have the added advantage of providing high fill capabilities for badly pitted pieces.An entry level setup for home use will pay for itself in a hurry.Its worth checking out.
Yes been yrs since I seen one at a friends house. Used to be nice big chrome kits in hot rod & biker mags many yrs ago but EPA laws knocked them out I believe cause I never see them anymore. Either no good kits now or simply no longer able to buy them by public idk but I dont see those real chrome/gold plating kits around? Call a nerd he'll piece a good one together no doubt..lol
That spray paint looks like it covered pretty well however in my experience chrome paint never actually comes out Chrome unless you clear coat it otherwise it just looks like brushed aluminum
Enjoyed video was debating between rustoleum metallic or krylon on a bowling ball fir my garden....recd. alot of good hints to add black gloss underneather first..thanks for video
Thank you for information, where I live right now both spray paints are out of stock but I they said they have order in will call ask if they have the supply u suggested also thank you again...
The reason you are having a reaction with that clear is because it is lacquer. You shot lacquer over uncured enamel. Multi layers of paints need to be compatible with eachother. I learned the hard way.
A little insight that may help in the future, “ANYTIME” you’re spraying over bare metal, use a metal etching primer or an epoxy primer. That buildable, filling stuff, can go on after. But you want it to stay attached to the metal and not lift. Flash times for rattle can paint jobs should be exaggerated between coats, like 30-40 minutes per coat! And once you get your base or topcoat sprayed on, wet sand, rinse, and tack, prior to clear coat applications. Remember to use primer sealers underneath before color and you’ll get results like it came out of a gun!!
Thanks so much for the info. That totally makes sense because the filler primer never really took. It was almost soft. I really appreciate the detailed response!
Sean is right, krylon makes a nice etching primer in a can, epoxy is usually a 2 part system in a can and has a very short shelf life once the components are mixed. I always use epoxy primer in a spray gun for bare metal and also a sealer when doing bodywork. Ollies has krylon etching primer in a can for $2.99 right now, if you have one in your area
This is paint to help look like chrome. Now gloss back may help as a base can change the chosen color. If you want all 8 parts chromed, it will run you about $230 - $280 with the 14 steps it takes to remove the chrome, wire wheel deep pitting, acid drip, clean, copper plate, buff (Repeat on deep pits like the points cover) re-apply copper, pickle, nickel plate, clean, 5 seconds in chrome, clean, polish, wrap & box plus tax. Don’t forget photos & tags. It is almost a cheap as 1 tooth extraction...as long as a root does not break off. What have you had chromed lately? (Chrome cotter pin not included) This is painting where chroming a part involved dozens oof chemicals that require a license to purchase and cradle to grave chain of custody if disposing, then pay for that cost. My brother has been doing 14 types of plating for 4 decades and is now a manager of second location. The degree of difficulty rather than size. He knows! He told me it’s easier to re-chrome an old Honda bumper. ASE Master Tech - Retired
Thanks for the video. I was looking to restore chrome table legs and saw this paint at Home Depot. It was going to be my last option. Your video made it my first choice.
L J Floyd - How do you restore chrome table legs? To polish, I use 0000 steel wool by hand. What power tool is best to first clean rusty chrome? A dremel or power drill or wire wheel or sand blaster? Thanks! P.S. I checked your videos but didn't see one for restoring chrome table legs. I need a tutorial! Thank you, Lena
You just mixed enamel with lacquer... You will definitely have reactions spraying over metallics! And try to lay down a light first coat to not oversaturate the piece you're painting! Always good spray a test piece and also work on your spray technique!
@@KeepOnWrenching Yep, lacquer over enamel is a great paint remover! But I've used enamel clear coats and it improved the chrome look quite a bit and protected it from wear. Good option. Next test is whether it will work on plastic dash bezels and trim.
Absolutely correct! You cannot put lacquer over enamel. And you are also correct about putting a light coat first. I painted cars for 40 years and am now a service Technician for a automotive paint distributor. You are spot on!
I agree entirely except for the light first layer in concideration of the chrome paint. From what I have seen and from doing models when it comes to metallic paint you do one good layer of it. Not enough to get runs but multiple layers reduce the effectiveness of the metallic elements in the paint hence a gloss black undercoat to increase the shine and reflectiveness.
Some Chrome effect paints benefit from a spray of polyurethane clear lacquer but others react badly to it try on the hidden side first to see how it reacts.
Dude slow your roll on spraying the paint and watch your flash point before recoating it if you went from right to left in a steady motion you might achieve the look your looking for I got dizzy watching you back and fourth .
So much negativity in the comments here. I agree it wasn't like chrome but it didn't look bad. I didn't see anything wrong with your technique as the end result looked fine. On a budget it would have been just fine to me. Don't listen to the haters. Keep up the good work. Nice bike too btw
Never use lacquer over urethane nor enamel paint. Drying your parts in the oven @ 140 F for 20 minutes strengthens the paint unbelievably, works with rustoleum as well.
Use black for primer and The smoother the finish more reflection you get the more reflection the more chrome it looks and if you spray the paint on really thick so it makes like a puddle on it and let that fully cure it will be smooth and don't sand it cause it will take away the shine spray lots of gloss and let that fully cure and polish don't sand it will look good chrome is a actual metal and
I think you'll find you have better results with the chrome Krylon paint if you sand the primer with 600 grit and water first then with 1000 gritand water. Then remember to let paint flash between coats your pouring on too much too quickly, slow down and on use same brand clear (krylon) rustoleum should only be used with rustoleum primer and base color. Cant mix products. If you follow this you'll get much better results.
@@sp1068 letting the paint flash means to let it dry between coats, you are allowing the solvents to evaporate out of the previous coat. Usually at 70-75°F around 10-15 minutes. Touch the tape and if its tacky but not stringy your ready for the next coat.
Try another part. Spray on primer/filler (any colour), lightly sand smooth, add a good coat of full-gloss black (don't sand), spray with chrome over the black then spray with 2k clear coat. It should be difficult to tell from the appearance, if it has been sprayed or chrome plated. Always wait 24 hours for curing before the next application. Cheap, one part, clear coats are useless. They wash off when fuel is accidently spilled on them or they're exposed to fuel vapour. And yes, they sometimes attack the paint below. There is lots of brands of chrome spray on the market now. Some really good ones, some not so good. Trial and error I think.
When it comes to rusted chrome, soak your parts in vinegar for 24 hours, then rinse and dry, paint the part with high gloss black, then apply your chrome paint, after the chrome dries, finish the part with a coat of 4X high gloss clear coat. I found this method to give the best results
I have a 1974 Honda 350 Four sitting in my back yard it has 4669 original miles on it it's been sitting about 40 years some of the chrome is starting to flake I think I will try that method and see how it comes out on the chrome
No offense intended, but you sound a LOT like Jack Black! If you had said "ska-doosh" at any point in your video, I would have been completely convinced you were him.
I just bought a can of a similar brand, always laughable how the chrome lid to the spray can yields way different results. I accidentally damaged my scooter headlight factory chrome painter reflector by cleaning it with glass cleaner and the next thing I realize is I'm looking back at black plastic! All the reflective paint dissolved or easily came off! I repainted it with a similar chrome paint and my results was it was silver and not chrome.
Could electric coat it with nickel? My friend used to do gold plating I learn the process when he was doing but paint is fine to chrome don't get you home.
Nickel plating is very easy, but is a duller metal than chrome. It doesn't rust though! Silver plating would shine, but is soft. It's a shame the chrome plating process is so toxic, because I'd like to do it at home.
@@firstmkb yes I was in Stockton California at a chroming plant. My Brother in law was dropping off his bumpers to be rechrome plated. It looked like some serious chemical being used in that plant. We used to have a small rechroming plant in Richmond California, but I think they shut down that plant like all the rest of the foundries that once was in the bay area before they started shipping all are machinery over seas. There are very few left in Oakland California. That strip and refinish metal in different or treated chemicals. Now there going with painted or electric coating spray on. There using that spray on chrome just about everything these day's wheels, race cars, in many different colors of chrome. You are right nothing like the original chrome it just looks thicker and shines better.
The clear coat didnt look good because you applied way too thick of a coat on your test piece. It's supposed to be applied in thin even coats to get a nice transparent glossy finish
@@KeepOnWrenching The clear you were using is Lacquer, you cannot spray spray that on enamel there are different chemical properties. Try Rustoleum clear or a 2k for enamel and I think you'll have success.
I realize this is just a stop gap until funds are available for new parts, however, I have a couple of ideas/questions. A buffing wheel and some fine compound, might bring out a more Chrome like shine being careful not to heat up the part. Also, I wonder if Krylon makes a compatible clear top coat that is compatible with their chrome. Their website and/or technical data could help you there.
Problem with the clear was that it was lacquer. Learned the enamel vs lacquer lesson that day. I’m gonna try a few different way. I’m sure there are better ways. This was a pretty sloppy job.
Nowhere near chrome , it looks like silver frost we use to paint the old wood stove top with . I have tried several chrome paint's and they are all disappointing
You're never going to get a perfect chrome out of a rattle can but it's always going to look better than the rust pitted piece you start with. Really can't expect it to equal what it would be if it was rechromed professionally.
I watched a video where the lady had a chair with the chrome bottom nd was really rusted. She made a paste from baking soda nd water. Applied it lk et it sit then took like a sos pad 2 scrub it nd o promise it looked BRAND NEW... try it
Reminds me of back in the '80's. Every hot rod magazine was polluted with ads for a new and improved "chrome" paint. Scam. At least this stuff appears to do a better job. That old stuff was pure crap.
What did we learn....find a chrome shop and make friends. It shouldn't surprise you that a LACQUER based paint/clearcoat would destroy/lift/bubble whatever was under it. You got that part looking as well as you could with the way you worked it. When you use a filler primer, give the bad area a couple coats, hit it with a sanding block and repeat until it is filled, then prime the whole part. Overall, it turned out as well as one could expect.
It’s an acceptable compromise of solution. I like it. I like the Rustoleum “Metallic Finish” better, though. It’s funny that the cap shows an off-chrome representation nor does it call itself chrome, but it’s awesome.
I've picked up a number of different products since that I'm looking forward to trying out. Wouldn't take much to do better than that stuff. It was just for fun honestly.
When it comes to chrome spray paint, I want a can of the paint that they used to paint the spray can cap with!
Totally!
You get closer to a mirror finish when you lay down gloss black as an undercoat before the chrome spray. The gloss black acts as a mirror
I think they chrome plate those caps !! lol.
Have used this myself, might try the gloss black underneath on something, could help make the chrome paint pop a bit.
@@KeepOnWrenching +++
@@lesskinner8588 That does sound like interesting to know advice that seems to help. If i dont get a proper chromium tank setup or that electroplated spray version, then i'll try the gloss black paint undercoat, however, it appears as if the first time a dot of gas or snotrockets that hit the surface of the dry chrome paint, its going to etch itself into place as some bubbling up was observed in the video when he tried putting a solvent based clearcoat rather than a waterbased clearcoat on it. To make chrome look more real, i've been using a method that was made popular in autobody shops in the 60's, i smoke copious amounts of the devil's lettuce and that produces a high gloss to the surface of the lenses of the eyes, and from the coughing it can really get a good coat of fluid on the eyes held in place with surface tension.
Cheers and happy chroming!
A few tips if you're doing chrome paint. Always use black primer that will make for the glossiest most reflective chrome effect. And if you're using a clear coat the chrome paint must dry at least 24 hours and be fully hardened. At that point put the clear coat on in very light coats that way the solvent in the paint doesn't break down the chrome underneath.
Thanks! I do need to try again with black base. Surprised it doesn’t say so on the can.
I thought clear coats full the mirror effect indefinitely
@@KeepOnWrenching, A black primer base is not enough. The color of the primer does not matter, what matters is to use a first layer of very shiny black paint with a mirror effect as pronounced as possible for a better result. The chrome paint should generally be sprayed in light strokes, but it depends of the brand.
@@philippealain-art is exactly correct! Painting the piece gloss black first will give the chrome paint a more chrome like finish.
Really backyard mechanic style! Sprayed everywhere, even on his tools...
You know it! Zero fu**s given here.
and his drink lol
His car lol
Lol!!
Goes dull soon has you touch it or when it gets wet. just get them plated or get a plating kit believe me you'll be going in circle's useing these replica crome paint's
Love this video and that Honda was the first bike I learned to ride in 1974. 67 woman in texas
Love the way he's attempting to convince himself it actually looks good.
Truth. I just ended up getting new parts. Lol
@@KeepOnWrenching It isn't that bad. No one expects spray paint to look like actual chrome. It's better than rusty parts, and if you're on a budget why not do what you can to dress the bike up as best you can. The main thing is to get that bike out on the road.
He talks way too much.
@@berthadelone8544 I disagree
Bet that would make a plastic part or project look metallic though. What do ya think?
It’s about 90% better ,now that it’s is sanded primed and painted than before .l say you did a great job my friend.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Good ol Kentucky Chrome. Lol. That’s what we called that stuff back in the 80’s. Good to see it hasn’t changed much.
This type of paint didn’t exist in the 80s....🧐
@@LTV_inc it sure did. I used some on the bumper of my 64 Fairlane in 79-80.
I sand and prep the part, then i clear coat it, then i sand it just enough to break the glaze, then i spray the chrome paint, then i spray a final clear coat, the final results come out really nice every time, great video, thanks 👍.
I like that approach.
How fine do you go on sanding?
@@firstmkb i like 1000 grit wet \ dry sand paper to break the glaze with.
The thing about spray paint is depending on which brand you use, it takes 3-7 days to harden & cure. I always wait 10 days and then clear coat it.
Great tips. I appreciate it.
Your car is going to look really good!
Buahahahaha!
The reason that clear reacted to the chrome paint is because the clear was lacquer based and the chrome paint was enamel based. You can put enamel over lacquer but you cannot put lacquer over enamel
I have a small oven that has a potentiometer type heat control. It can function down to 35-40C.
When the paint or lacquer has 'gone off', the oven can be ramped up, to bake the coating.
The lacquer becomes very hard.
Due to the wide range of constituents, the best option is to research the coatings to discover the ideal temperature & time settings.
The info is out there, because it's needed in a production environment.
There's nothing better than a rock hard lacquered component.
Well presented ! Thanks Krylon is excellent spray bomb paint ! And I’ve had exceptional results for over 30 years touching up small stuff in my Body/paint shop.
Good to know. Thanks for the info!
If you use krylon or rustoleum clear over their paints, you either have to spray it while to base is still wet, or wait about 4 days. The clear "re-activates" the base until it's fully cured. You can also polish she base once it's cured.
Also, SprayMax 2K clear for the win.
Thanks for the info
You should try a gloss black after primer and before chrome paint
That seems to be important.
Exactly. And follow at least the minimum basic instructions in application
I was thinking same thing while watching. I did cringe a little when sprayed over grey filler primer. A gloss black undercoat would help with the reflection and brightness of the chrome paint.
Watching you paint had my anxiety trough the roof !!!
I’m sorry, Alberto. I obviously didn’t really care that day. Lol
😂😂😂
Agreed. His punch and jab technique has me wanting to reach out and grab his arm. Sloooooooow down, smooth strokes back and forth. Start at one side and move across slowly. Let the paint flow on in thin, even strokes. Back away from the item as well.
OMG. I hate to see a heavy coat. What ever happened to the 1st flash coat. VHT paint has the best chrome like coating. I was f****** yelling at them through the TV
He had me excited at first. I was ready to "Chrome" the wheels on my brand new Husqvarna YTH18542 riding mower. Then I saw how he sprayed paint !
I’d say go for it. Those wheels would shine like silver spray paint!
Wow, the box looks great
Lol
You got a 👍at the 11 minute mark. I'm doing a retro mod on my 81 CB900 Custom so my attention perked right up. Your bike is a beauty. And going for a ride beats watching paint dry every time!
Thanks for the like lol. Riding > watching paint dry
First thing is that after cleaning and prepping the parts you should use a tac cloth to remove dust and oils from your fingers left behind. Then primer but always wear latex gloves to handle parts. Then scuff and use tac cloth again. Finally paint.... but always be sure that primer, paint and clear coat are all compatible with each other and all should be by same company (in your case, krylon). Also for small parts a clean uncluttered area is better and using a turntable makes everything so much easier.
Thanks for the tips! That I definitely learned the lacquer lesson on enamel. Lol
Wow...you have a lot to learn.....
Don’t we all
@@KeepOnWrenching I am almost 70 years take your time, rush jobs look that way.
I have used this chrome quite a bit , What I have found is it varies so much between brands to how ( chrome like ) it is , Also it makes a big difference if you spray it over white not grey primer .
Noted. I’ve heard both black primer and white primer are the best. Might need to do some more tests. Thanks, Henry!
Polyurethane will dry and can be recoated. Lacquer will always dissolve the coat below it. If you let lacquer dry a long time you can get lucky with some clear coats though.
Lesson learned
spray the parts with a coat of gloss black, let them dry real good, then spray the parts with the Krylon Chrome spray. the chrome spray will have a deeper shine.
I need to try that! Thanks.
@@KeepOnWrenching i tried it on a couple miscellaneous pieces as a test, and saw a noticeable difference. let me know how it turns out for you.
The spaztic i think its called does have a black basecoat for their chrome paint. Ive seen some videos of it and it doesn't look to far off from real chrome.
This spray actually did the best job i've seen from a spray can, although not a real chrome finish.
For me, all the "chrome" rattle cans i've used in the past were JUST A SILVER paint!
Yup
Hi Brian, I've had no end of trouble with Rustoleum clear coat [even over Rustoleum Gold/Chrome paints]
I switched over to VHT quick dry clear and the problems went away. I sometimes sprays cloudy but dries clear, and gives the base coat depth.
Next time you try this , do 3 steps on top of the primer. 1: a base metallic for depth 2: the actual chrome paint applied thinly 3: VHT clear. And be Patient waiting.
I had fantastic results spraying Gold Chrome onto Vases doing the above method [it was difficult to tell from plating]
I’m going to try a black base one of these days. It’s worth experimenting with.
I'm starting my 360T rebuild soon. Chrome is going to be tough. I think I'll do the chassis painting myself but the tank and side panels will need a professional touch. I expect the engine clean up and polishing will be tough. A few of the parts (mostly anything plastic) will need replacing. I decided to go with a laser printed side panels because it was just too hard to find the originals that weren't in bad shape. The slits just get too fragile and break. Last one I got I had to get from Sweden and was held together with hope and glue. The hope ran out when the glue gave way.
Love the channel Wrench dude.
Go make it happen. It can be a struggle.
Hi Brian I think it turned out pretty good ,for a spray on chrome I was impressed with the results Thanks for sharing Dale
You’re welcome, Dale.
But did it last?
nice over spray on the car sitting outside the garage door !!
Yeah. I really don’t care.
Surprisingly well . Experiments take time to perfect . Thank ya for sharing
Not quite what I was looking for.
Another You tuber who also does spray paint videos, suggested allowing the paint to completely cure before applying clear coat. I haven’t tried it yet, but hey...it’s worth a shot.
It’s all about the journey! It’s been fun to give it a go. Getting better everyday!
What do I know,after 50 years of painting with cans,whenever I put many heave coats,it will eventually crack and peal off!!! Does look nice!!!!
That’s part of the test. Curious to see how it holds up. I think I did what I could to increase my odds.
The box looks great.
Thanks!
I was somewhat impressed with Rust-Oleum's Mirror Effect spray paint. Very close to that shiny chrome look.
Will check it out.
I plan to spray my contact lenses with Krylon Chrome.
I'll scuff them up with fine sandpaper and spray a coat of primer, of course.
Can't wait to see how it works.
Please don’t. Do you need a hug?
@@KeepOnWrenching ,
"Need a rug??"
What?
Why would I need a rug?
I could use a rag and a dab of paint remover though.
Hold on a sec.
I think Elvis is at the door.
I think the results especially from a rattle can are pretty good, if you you want mirror finish then more money is spent, you only get what you pay for.
Agreed
@@KeepOnWrenching I am starting to despise that saying the longer I live...It's not even true.
Sometimes you pay out the ass, and get junk. Parts or service that aren't even of high quality.
Channels like Project Farm prove it, as far as actual items, as opposed to service.
There’s truth to that for sure.
Not bad. I was redoing a Camaro not long back. Same situation as you. I got ahold of a guy from a Google search. Mailed out the pieces. It was super reasonable, and they came back like new. Paint is good but you can always tell.
Agreed
Well, that's better than I expected. Most spray-can "chrome" has a nicely chromed top, and plain ol' silver paint in the can. There's a company out there (Alsa) that claims to make paint that really does look like chrome, but they want about forty bucks for a spray can. That lets me out. Oh, by the way -- love the old 350! Great bikes.
Yeah it’s not terrible but not great. Thanks! These old bikes are amazing.
I use that premium metallic and found if you do a gloss black first and let dry for a couple of days, then do the metallic over that it gives an even better chrome look. 🙂
Definitely worth a try! Thanks for the tip.
Any time.
Rustoleum and Krylon are not compatible. Use Krylon clearcoat with Krlon paint or Rustoleum clearcoat with Rustoleum paint.
I let it dry for weeks and it still smudged. The smudges don't come off
All I have to do is close my eyes and I’m pretty sure jack black is doing an a review at times
People keep saying that. Lol
Well, JB was a known huffer, LOL
Really liked the way the parts looked after they were painted, Also the way You took time to paint another piece of metal with the clear coat to check for runs,bubbling up,or dulling of the finish
Thanks, James. I learned to never paid lacquer on enamel. Lesson learned!
Wait for the Chrome paint to Cure before attempting Clear Coat. Read the label on the Chrome can to see what the cure time, although I believe 5 to 7 days wait is best. It's also best to try the Chrome and clear coat combination on a piece of metal prior to doing the project to make sure everything is compatible. Sometimes cloudiness can also come from there being too much humidity in the air. Lots of good ventilation in the area where your painting will be helpful with all paint jobs. It doesn't have to be a wind tunnel just some lightly moving, exchanging, air. And of course take your time, have lots of patience, and that will most often give you the nicest finished project. It's all fun! Enjoy!
Yeah that whole day was a complete mess.
Interesting video. This might help on some of the old bikes I work on. Don't listen to the haters, good job!
Thanks, Rick. I appreciate that.
Tip for the future: when you're spraying chrome, to get a finish that REALLY mimics chrome, you want to throw on a high gloss black base coat first. It's a night and day difference!
Yup. That’s where I mucked up.
@@KeepOnWrenching no worries. we can't know these things until we know them, if that makes sense lol
@@TheDon5812 I always use 3 coats and it's given me the same effect as when I used the rustoleum high gloss black as a base coat. Is there something I'm missing?
@@TheDon5812 About as much sense as 'looking good from a galloping horse" ! lol.
I've tested this extensively. There is a difference.
Awesome job 👏 👍🏿 🙌
I tried at least.
You have to let the paint dry for at least 24hours before you put on the clear coat , and another thing, if those covers are engine covers the paint is going to peel off due to the heat , you have to use ceramic coating paint sold at your local auto shop.
For sure. This part didn’t require high need like engine parts but a valid point. It couldn’t hurt!
Hmm, jack black reviewing paint, way to go!!!
People keep saying that. Lol
i have "never" seen chrome spray paint that didn't fade and become dull in a short period of time.
Yeah. Not the best.
Find an aircraft polyurethane shop to paint them or do it yourself . use silver it will be way shinier and last 100 years or more
Noted!
More silver than chrome but on a cost basis I'd give it a thumbs up for a cheap improvement. Let us know how it lasts.
Needs gloss black undercoat
Works for me gonna get some for old Schwinn I'm working on, good video man thanks
Yeah...it’s better than a kick in the ass but definitely not chrome.
@@KeepOnWrenching lol, no worries, won't hold you to it, thanks again bud
There have been some serious advances in powder coating and with japanese brightwork and its peeling, pitting and corrosion being so common, there's new materials that mimic chrome as well or better than conventional spray enamels and have the added advantage of providing high fill capabilities for badly pitted pieces.An entry level setup for home use will pay for itself in a hurry.Its worth checking out.
Yes been yrs since I seen one at a friends house. Used to be nice big chrome kits in hot rod & biker mags many yrs ago but EPA laws knocked them out I believe cause I never see them anymore. Either no good kits now or simply no longer able to buy them by public idk but I dont see those real chrome/gold plating kits around?
Call a nerd he'll piece a good one together no doubt..lol
Like the bike and the paint job.
Thanks, man! That one came out so well. Really pleased. Better than the chrome spray paint. Lol
That spray paint looks like it covered pretty well however in my experience chrome paint never actually comes out Chrome unless you clear coat it otherwise it just looks like brushed aluminum
Exactly
I'm new to this. Do you mean clear coat it after applying the chrome paint or before?
Enjoyed video was debating between rustoleum metallic or krylon on a bowling ball fir my garden....recd. alot of good hints to add black gloss underneather first..thanks for video
Gloss base is key!
Thank you for information, where I live right now both spray paints are out of stock but I they said they have order in will call ask if they have the supply u suggested also thank you again...
The reason you are having a reaction with that clear is because it is lacquer. You shot lacquer over uncured enamel. Multi layers of paints need to be compatible with eachother. I learned the hard way.
I believe I did too. Yup. The lacquer lesson was learned.
@@KeepOnWrenching enamel has critical drying time. If you wait too long or too soon it can wrinkle and lift on you.
Thanks, Roy.
Good job I'm learning good skills from people like you GG now I definitely overspray I'll keep that in mind light spray
It’s all about always getting better and helping people out.
The overspray on the car will match !
Totally! 2 birds with one stone.
Results are pretty decent for a spray can. I like the license plate delete on the Subaru’s
Need to try again with black primer.
A little insight that may help in the future, “ANYTIME” you’re spraying over bare metal, use a metal etching primer or an epoxy primer. That buildable, filling stuff, can go on after. But you want it to stay attached to the metal and not lift. Flash times for rattle can paint jobs should be exaggerated between coats, like 30-40 minutes per coat! And once you get your base or topcoat sprayed on, wet sand, rinse, and tack, prior to clear coat applications. Remember to use primer sealers underneath before color and you’ll get results like it came out of a gun!!
Thanks so much for the info. That totally makes sense because the filler primer never really took. It was almost soft. I really appreciate the detailed response!
Sean is right, krylon makes a nice etching primer in a can, epoxy is usually a 2 part system in a can and has a very short shelf life once the components are mixed. I always use epoxy primer in a spray gun for bare metal and also a sealer when doing bodywork.
Ollies has krylon etching primer in a can for $2.99 right now, if you have one in your area
Good video , I am amateur when it comes to spraying and allways get runs and if I got a finish like you would be happy.
Thanks, John.
you're right, I think he actually got overspray on my screen
Sorry about that. Gas on a rag will take it right off.
Lmfao
Lolol
This is paint to help look like chrome. Now gloss back may help as a base can change the chosen color.
If you want all 8 parts chromed, it will run you about $230 - $280 with the 14 steps it takes to remove the chrome, wire wheel deep pitting, acid drip, clean, copper plate, buff (Repeat on deep pits like the points cover) re-apply copper, pickle, nickel plate, clean, 5 seconds in chrome, clean, polish, wrap & box plus tax. Don’t forget photos & tags. It is almost a cheap as 1 tooth extraction...as long as a root does not break off.
What have you had chromed lately? (Chrome cotter pin not included)
This is painting where chroming a part involved dozens oof chemicals that require a license to purchase and cradle to grave chain of custody if disposing, then pay for that cost. My brother has been doing 14 types of plating for 4 decades and is now a manager of second location. The degree of difficulty rather than size. He knows! He told me it’s easier to re-chrome an old Honda bumper. ASE Master Tech - Retired
I was just curious about the chrome spray but yeah I don’t want to pay to rechrome. Easier to buy replacements on eBay.
Thanks for the video. I was looking to restore chrome table legs and saw this paint at Home Depot. It was going to be my last option. Your video made it my first choice.
According to some of the comments a black primer will help a lot.
L J Floyd - How do you restore chrome table legs? To polish, I use 0000 steel wool by hand. What power tool is best to first clean rusty chrome? A dremel or power drill or wire wheel or sand blaster? Thanks! P.S. I checked your videos but didn't see one for restoring chrome table legs. I need a tutorial! Thank you, Lena
Gloss black first coat...chrome spray...let dry for 2-3 days then alight sand with 4000 grit and buff out. Shiney as ya gonna get
Thanks, Frank
You just mixed enamel with lacquer... You will definitely have reactions spraying over metallics! And try to lay down a light first coat to not oversaturate the piece you're painting! Always good spray a test piece and also work on your spray technique!
Yup. Lesson was definitely learned here. Always getting better.
@@KeepOnWrenching Yep, lacquer over enamel is a great paint remover! But I've used enamel clear coats and it improved the chrome look quite a bit and protected it from wear. Good option. Next test is whether it will work on plastic dash bezels and trim.
Absolutely correct! You cannot put lacquer over enamel. And you are also correct about putting a light coat first. I painted cars for 40 years and am now a service Technician for a automotive paint distributor. You are spot on!
I agree entirely except for the light first layer in concideration of the chrome paint. From what I have seen and from doing models when it comes to metallic paint you do one good layer of it. Not enough to get runs but multiple layers reduce the effectiveness of the metallic elements in the paint hence a gloss black undercoat to increase the shine and reflectiveness.
I’m gonna try again. I’ve picked up a few different chrome paint options too. Look for another video in the near future! Love the suggestions.
Great video the old Honda looks fantastic stay safe 🇬🇧👍🏻
Thanks, man. I really love that bike. That candy gold just sings to me. :)
I think you could have gotten a similar result from just regular silver spray paint.
Agreed
Some Chrome effect paints benefit from a spray of polyurethane clear lacquer but others react badly to it try on the hidden side first to see how it reacts.
The silver chrome is enamel I believe, the clear you shot on the test piece is lacquer. You can spray enamel over lacquer but not lacquer over enamel.
Yup. Learned that lesson that day.
Dude slow your roll on spraying the paint and watch your flash point before recoating it if you went from right to left in a steady motion you might achieve the look your looking for
I got dizzy watching you back and fourth .
I apologize.
Great job regardless! Keep up the great work!👍
@@michaelcardenas989 Go slower and can not cut corners! If want a rush it it turn out it will show!!
So much negativity in the comments here. I agree it wasn't like chrome but it didn't look bad. I didn't see anything wrong with your technique as the end result looked fine. On a budget it would have been just fine to me. Don't listen to the haters. Keep up the good work. Nice bike too btw
Thanks, Jayer. All good. Comes with the territory!
Never use lacquer over urethane nor enamel paint. Drying your parts in the oven @ 140 F for 20 minutes strengthens the paint unbelievably, works with rustoleum as well.
Great info! Never thought of baking the rustoleum! Thanks!
@@KeepOnWrenching just an idea, paint with both, the chrome and the laquer at the same time
that is a beautiful bike my goodness
Thank you so much! I’m really excited about how far it has come.
Give us an up date on how you polished them up to get more of a reflective look like chrome finish
Can do!
then show getting the overspray off that car.............lol
Use black for primer and The smoother the finish more reflection you get the more reflection the more chrome it looks and if you spray the paint on really thick so it makes like a puddle on it and let that fully cure it will be smooth and don't sand it cause it will take away the shine spray lots of gloss and let that fully cure and polish don't sand it will look good chrome is a actual metal and
DAM I HAD ONE OF THOSE WHAT A GREAT LITTLE FUN BIKE !!!!!!
Love that bike!
I think you'll find you have better results with the chrome Krylon paint if you sand the primer with 600 grit and water first then with 1000 gritand water. Then remember to let paint flash between coats your pouring on too much too quickly, slow down and on use same brand clear (krylon) rustoleum should only be used with rustoleum primer and base color. Cant mix products. If you follow this you'll get much better results.
Thanks for the tips! Will definitely give it a go.
Idk what "letting the paint flash" means. Keep seeing it.
@@sp1068 letting the paint flash means to let it dry between coats, you are allowing the solvents to evaporate out of the previous coat. Usually at 70-75°F around 10-15 minutes. Touch the tape and if its tacky but not stringy your ready for the next coat.
@@hildysworld Thanks. Have been looking at anything that gives a decent chrome look without the expense of plating.
Try another part.
Spray on primer/filler (any colour), lightly sand smooth, add a good coat of full-gloss black (don't sand), spray with chrome over the black then spray with 2k clear coat.
It should be difficult to tell from the appearance, if it has been sprayed or chrome plated.
Always wait 24 hours for curing before the next application.
Cheap, one part, clear coats are useless.
They wash off when fuel is accidently spilled on them or they're exposed to fuel vapour. And yes, they sometimes attack the paint below.
There is lots of brands of chrome spray on the market now. Some really good ones, some not so good.
Trial and error I think.
Thank you. Will give it another try.
My eye glasses go overspray!!! My wife got mad at me watching this video without goggles !! LOL!!!
Ha! I’m the king of overspray.
Hahahaha
When it comes to rusted chrome, soak your parts in vinegar for 24 hours, then rinse and dry, paint the part with high gloss black, then apply your chrome paint, after the chrome dries, finish the part with a coat of 4X high gloss clear coat. I found this method to give the best results
Vinegar can work wonders!
Hopefully you don’t mind that chrome look on your van.
I don’t own a van
So, what happens when you try to polish it ?
Not much. Complete failure.
I prefer not to have overspray on everything in my garage.
Luckily, I don’t really care.
I have a 1974 Honda 350 Four sitting in my back yard it has 4669 original miles on it it's been sitting about 40 years some of the chrome is starting to flake I think I will try that method and see how it comes out on the chrome
It’s not the best chrome paint for sure. From a galloping horse it looks just ok.
No offense intended, but you sound a LOT like Jack Black! If you had said "ska-doosh" at any point in your video, I would have been completely convinced you were him.
Jeff Vader_Head_Of_Catering none taken. I have actually heard that before. Lol.
Holy shit you are right lol
That was also the first thing I noticed!
Sorry, but he doesn't sound like Jack Black at all.
Thank you!
After primer& sanding, paint them gloss black, then apply the chrome paint.
I’ll try that next time
I just bought a can of a similar brand, always laughable how the chrome lid to the spray can yields way different results. I accidentally damaged my scooter headlight factory chrome painter reflector by cleaning it with glass cleaner and the next thing I realize is I'm looking back at black plastic! All the reflective paint dissolved or easily came off! I repainted it with a similar chrome paint and my results was it was silver and not chrome.
Yeah it’s not chrome at all. I’ll probably keep experimenting though. Maybe get some better results.The cap sure looks nice! Lol
I use Molotow chrome markers for my RC restorations and it looks like actual chrome. Works on large surfaces if you're patient enough.
I owned two cb 360,s and cb550 four. awesome machines.
Beautiful machines indeed.
Could electric coat it with nickel? My friend used to do gold plating I learn the process when he was doing but paint is fine to chrome don't get you home.
That’s definitely an option. I got better parts from eBay eventually. Worth a shot.
Chrome dont get you home always trust in rust!!!
Nickel plating is very easy, but is a duller metal than chrome. It doesn't rust though!
Silver plating would shine, but is soft.
It's a shame the chrome plating process is so toxic, because I'd like to do it at home.
@@firstmkb yes I was in Stockton California at a chroming plant. My Brother in law was dropping off his bumpers to be rechrome plated. It looked like some serious chemical being used in that plant.
We used to have a small rechroming plant in Richmond California, but I think they shut down that plant like all the rest of the foundries that once was in the bay area before they started shipping all are machinery over seas.
There are very few left in Oakland California. That strip and refinish metal in different or treated chemicals.
Now there going with painted or electric coating spray on.
There using that spray on chrome just about everything these day's wheels, race cars, in many different colors of chrome.
You are right nothing like the original chrome it just looks thicker and shines better.
I use this paint all the time for best results you have to apply one fast heavy wet coat, multiple thin coat just leaves a dull finish paint look.
Thanks for the tips!
The clear coat didnt look good because you applied way too thick of a coat on your test piece. It's supposed to be applied in thin even coats to get a nice transparent glossy finish
Alex Cardenas agreed! I’m super paranoid about paint reactions after a tragic day of messing up all my parts. Thanks! Will keep your advice in mind.
@@KeepOnWrenching The clear you were using is Lacquer, you cannot spray spray that on enamel there are different chemical properties. Try Rustoleum clear or a 2k for enamel and I think you'll have success.
Not bad, it looks more like polished aluminum. I'll play with it myself. A clear would help also
Try a black gloss base coat. That’s been a very common piece of advice in comments.
Yeah , it's like watching paint dry 🤔🤔
That can be exciting, right?!
I realize this is just a stop gap until funds are available for new parts, however, I have a couple of ideas/questions. A buffing wheel and some fine compound, might bring out a more Chrome like shine being careful not to heat up the part. Also, I wonder if Krylon makes a compatible clear top coat that is compatible with their chrome. Their website and/or technical data could help you there.
Problem with the clear was that it was lacquer. Learned the enamel vs lacquer lesson that day. I’m gonna try a few different way. I’m sure there are better ways. This was a pretty sloppy job.
dont buff or compound chrome paints, from my experience it completely ruins the chrome effect
Nowhere near chrome , it looks like silver frost we use to paint the old wood stove top with . I have tried several chrome paint's and they are all disappointing
Yeah. Totally agree. Not chrome at all.
You're never going to get a perfect chrome out of a rattle can but it's always going to look better than the rust pitted piece you start with. Really can't expect it to equal what it would be if it was rechromed professionally.
I watched a video where the lady had a chair with the chrome bottom nd was really rusted. She made a paste from baking soda nd water. Applied it lk et it sit then took like a sos pad 2 scrub it nd o promise it looked BRAND NEW... try it
Interesting! Who knew!?
Reminds me of back in the '80's. Every hot rod magazine was polluted with ads for a new and improved "chrome" paint. Scam. At least this stuff appears to do a better job. That old stuff was pure crap.
It silver spray paint. Gonna try a few things to see if I can get better results.
What did we learn....find a chrome shop and make friends. It shouldn't surprise you that a LACQUER based paint/clearcoat would destroy/lift/bubble whatever was under it. You got that part looking as well as you could with the way you worked it. When you use a filler primer, give the bad area a couple coats, hit it with a sanding block and repeat until it is filled, then prime the whole part. Overall, it turned out as well as one could expect.
Learned that lesson that day with the lacquer
Great review by Jack Black himself.
People keep saying that! Lol
Doesn't sound like Jack Black.
Thank you lol
Sometimes it looks cool to just paint parts a flat black rather than trying to replicate a chrome finish.
Very true I’m trying to restore this bike to original but yes that’s an option for sure. Might try that on a future project.
Where I'm from that's called Mexican chrome !!!!
Yep! Here too! MexiChrome!!
That's funny, here in florida we call it. "chicano chrome "
i spit my coffee!!! :)
@RobXbox63 Native thats why they are called Mexicans! King of customs before barris.
Lol I'm Mexican
It’s an acceptable compromise of solution. I like it. I like the
Rustoleum “Metallic Finish” better, though. It’s funny that the cap shows an off-chrome representation nor does it call itself chrome, but it’s awesome.
I've picked up a number of different products since that I'm looking forward to trying out. Wouldn't take much to do better than that stuff. It was just for fun honestly.
Nice Bike Dude
Thanks, man!
Thanks for the clear coat test. I would be so pissed if I got a decent coat and the clearcoat ended up gumming it up or dissolving
Never mix types. Lacquer over enamel is bad news.