Forward Pierre-Luc Dubois | 2023-24 LA Kings End of Season Exit Interviews

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  • @riccweeee
    @riccweeee 14 днів тому +7

    I REALLY want this guy to have a serious comeback season next year. I get that he had a really bad year this year, But the guy is so likeable and I just want him to be successful with us!

    • @Khorney
      @Khorney 12 днів тому +1

      The problem is that usually the team he plays for actually do better without him, points percentage wise. Winnepeg, Columbus and now LA have all improved when he wasn't on the team. I too want him to succeed, but if anything he has to put in the most effort of everyone in there. But usually he doesn't seem to be bothered :(

  • @BaBooneJenner
    @BaBooneJenner 16 днів тому +22

    "It's out of my control" It's literally not.

    • @jim3541
      @jim3541 15 днів тому +1

      Considering this interview was AFTER their season just ended it literally is lol

    • @normodb
      @normodb 15 днів тому +1

      ​@@jim3541you don't get it, do you

  • @chrislev1687
    @chrislev1687 15 днів тому +6

    PLD references his time with the Jets quite a bit, maybe some regrets on abandoning that top 6 stability, maybe

  • @mondaywar
    @mondaywar 15 днів тому +13

    If he was being paid 4 mil, he would have been a slight disappointment, but showing some glimpses of promise. The fact is he is getting paid over 8 mil a year. That’s so crazy

    • @s.b.3275
      @s.b.3275 15 днів тому +1

      The problem is not PLD, the problem is unrealistic expectations from fans and teams management with unreal expectations as a first line center when he'd be better utilised as a complementary dept scoring winger. He's clearly overpaid and overhyped since coming into the NHL. He's a decent player who's had unfair expectations since coming into the league.

  • @chrisr1881
    @chrisr1881 15 днів тому +3

    Great signing🤣🤣🤣 enjoy 7 more yrs of this guy 🤣

    • @zigfield723
      @zigfield723 15 днів тому +1

      Actually they traded 2 great players for him

    • @chrisr1881
      @chrisr1881 10 днів тому

      @@zigfield723 and signed him for 8 yrs

  • @WomakCDL
    @WomakCDL 16 днів тому +10

    Criminally misused

  • @tylerb3134
    @tylerb3134 16 днів тому +17

    I belive he will do better next year well at least i hope

    • @chrishahn841
      @chrishahn841 16 днів тому +4

      😂😂😂

    • @OrdoRellquist
      @OrdoRellquist 15 днів тому

      I guarantee, like the rest of us chumps, he'd work/play a damn sight better if he were only hoping to get paid 8 mill next year.

  • @Acyclistandhockeysnob
    @Acyclistandhockeysnob 16 днів тому +2

    I have faith in him. Playing with bottom 6 guys the majority of the season can’t help your confidence and or play. People don’t seem to recognize that. All of these experts keep saying he should have made those players better, yet it hard to make young players better when you are only as good as your line mates. He could have had a 60 point season if for not Laffy, Grundy, Lewis and even Kaliyv missing great opportunities to put the puck in the net from a nice setup from PlD.

  • @thefrozencrown9388
    @thefrozencrown9388 16 днів тому +6

    Put him with fiala and another decent forward for at least a half season then we can call him a waste of money

    • @hyepride23
      @hyepride23 16 днів тому

      Him and Fiala is a terrible combination. Two soft, no heart, defensive liabilities together. Both are not Kings and need to be traded or bought out.

    • @thefrozencrown9388
      @thefrozencrown9388 16 днів тому +1

      @@hyepride23 Educate yourself on the penalties of a buyout dude there's a reason you see less than 5 buyouts a year across the hundreds of players in the NHL. It's not a reasonable option for either of them with their cap hits. They're project players that the kings have to find a way to get value from. Like it or not, we have to find a way to get the most out of Dubois and we can't do that playing him with bottom 6 guys. He's demoralized and wants to be the guy. He was never really given that chance due to the teams structure and talent at C in front of him. Put kopitar on pp2 and with lewis and grundstrom and give him 15 mins per night and he'll put up points similar to Dubois this year.

    • @hyepride23
      @hyepride23 15 днів тому

      @@thefrozencrown9388 ok then trade him, and fiala.

    • @VincentLobster
      @VincentLobster 15 днів тому +1

      ​@hyepride23 Him and Fiala were a top 5 duo on the Kings for 5v5 Expected Goal Share. I wouldn't call that a terrible combination.

  • @paulzgonecrazy7140
    @paulzgonecrazy7140 16 днів тому +8

    Did he play all 82 games? That's big. He's taking a big chunk of the salary cap. Expectations are high. Deliver or not play. Those are the basics.

  • @pinga86
    @pinga86 16 днів тому +13

    lets hope next year he finds his footing, maybe he will be a beast next season , who knows.

    • @jaydee8864
      @jaydee8864 16 днів тому +3

      He had a full season to prove hes not worth the price tag. Team sisnt get bwttwr with him on the ice.

  • @TeamTipidis
    @TeamTipidis 16 днів тому +28

    I know there’s been a lot of negative discourse about PL lately, but I still believe in the person and the player. You’re setting him up to underachieve by playing him with guys like Carl, Lewis, and Laf for 3/4 of the season. He knows he has to produce with the price tag attached to his name, and with the right coach and system I believe he can get back to the two-way impact and 60+ points he was putting up previously.
    Guy made no excuses through a lot of tough questions and handled the buyout question graciously. Still need to see the intensity ramp up as he was frustratingly passive most of the season. Honestly believe learning a brand new system and trying too hard to limit mistakes can do that. Have a great off-season and we’ll see. But as Kings fans we MUST support our players!!!

    • @lonelycake4114
      @lonelycake4114 16 днів тому +1

      New coach, new system, different pld. I’m a bit surprised he didn’t flat out say he’s a top line player, what the hell does he have to lose.

    • @zebehm
      @zebehm 16 днів тому +5

      He set himself up by playing his way down to third/fourth line. With his history in Columbus, Winnipeg, and now this first awful year in LA, he shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt about needing the right coach/system/linemates. A career high of 63 points isn't worth $8.5M. His utter lack of effort should be shipped out before it becomes the new identity of the Kings. A buyout should be plan B if a trade isn't found.

    • @hockeyhead35
      @hockeyhead35 16 днів тому

      I agree with your comment. I still believe in him as well.!!

    • @TeamTipidis
      @TeamTipidis 16 днів тому

      @@lonelycake4114 I mean, he knows he can’t say that after the season he had. But I love that he said he has to earn Top-6 minutes.

    • @TeamTipidis
      @TeamTipidis 16 днів тому +1

      @@zebehm I hear you man. Especially about the production. I still think there’s a next level that can be unlocked with him. The front office saw it with Moore, and they were right. Then they saw it again with Danault, and they were right. Then Fiala, and they were right too. I sure hope they’re right this time around with PL, and I believe (at least in that regard) we owe both parties the benefit of the doubt.
      The talent and pedigree is there. 3rd overall pick. Dad is a coach in the AHL. 4/7 full seasons with > 0.7 PPG including his age-20 (!!!) season and the 2 years prior to this one. Still just 25. Kempe didn’t have his first 0.7 PPG season until literally last year, age 26, 6th full year in the league. Give him some actual linemates and we’ll see if we’re having the same discussion at this time next year. Hopefully not.

  • @johndouglas8971
    @johndouglas8971 12 днів тому

    Resign long term 10x8 mill ! Heart and soul of LA love the guy .... sincerely Edmonton

  • @LegacyProductionsOrg
    @LegacyProductionsOrg 15 днів тому +1

    he avoids questions off the ice the way he avoids effort on the ice.

  • @Volvo21S70
    @Volvo21S70 16 днів тому +7

    PLD was set up to have a subpar/mediocre season. Throwing him on the third line with multiple players with barely 100 games of experience (JAD, Laffy, Kaliyev, etc)
    Did we expect him to takeover and carry? Look who he was paired with in Winnipeg. Ehlers, Copp/Connor
    The only way to go is up. If PLD scores 30+ or 60+pts here on out, everyone suddenly forgets the first disaster season of a hot streak, road trip record breaking streak, to falling completely off the rails & our coach getting fired

    • @Ironclad6661
      @Ironclad6661 15 днів тому +2

      He was given plenty of games on top lines. He didn't produce and that's why he ended up on bottom lines.

  • @Ryan-pg7uo
    @Ryan-pg7uo 12 днів тому

    To summarize- "It's out of my control"

  • @terryduerks4008
    @terryduerks4008 16 днів тому +16

    Give him credit facing the media's dumb questions trying to cause conflict and I'm not even a kings fan.

    • @bgutierrez6613
      @bgutierrez6613 16 днів тому +2

      only a non-Kings fan would say that

    • @chrishahn841
      @chrishahn841 16 днів тому +3

      Not trying to cause conflict. He literally was terrible all season and lazy. They just said it much nicer. He’s so lazy and can’t wait for the day he is no longer allowed to wear a kings sweater!

    • @terryduerks4008
      @terryduerks4008 16 днів тому

      @@chrishahn841 well that will be about 7 more years

    • @Ironclad6661
      @Ironclad6661 15 днів тому

      Are you even a hockey fan? LOL. You're most certainly aren't a Kings fan or you'd not say that.

    • @Traumawarrior77
      @Traumawarrior77 7 днів тому

      He did have a terribly uninspiring season!
      It is on him to sit and deal with this.
      It’s no secret that his work ethic might not be what it needs to be.

  • @matthewmcmaster4985
    @matthewmcmaster4985 15 днів тому +3

    All these stupid fans let the guy play he moved from Canada to the us new team new everything and he played with rookies and without him laf wouldn’t be as good it’s not just numbers but he’s helping young players cause he was one of them

  • @jaredpowell4108
    @jaredpowell4108 15 днів тому +1

    He'll be better.

  • @michaellanderholm9430
    @michaellanderholm9430 16 днів тому +4

    He just didn't produce for the amount of money he's being paid. Period. This is the guy we got who is going to help us beat the oilers in years going forward and win playoff series? This guy has zero juice, zero passion.

  • @KptKrunch9481
    @KptKrunch9481 15 днів тому

    I do agree with that 1 - 3 - 1 question. Some players do better with certain systems. I'm not a PLD fan, but I can understand him struggling in a system that does not work with his game. The Oilers have torched the 1 - 3 - 1 consistently, but teams that play this way do so because they cannot compete any other way. IMO - you're better off adapting to the strength of your players and and taking your lumps (i.e. missing the playoffs for 3 or 4 years, trading off old(er) assets for prospects and pick and getting high picks yourself). That's the formula in a 32 team league as no matter what you do you will not be competitive every year - it just doesn't work like that

  • @johndesousa7379
    @johndesousa7379 7 днів тому

    $1,130,952 for 14 years is the buyout. They would be making a massive mistake not buying him out before july 1st. It more than doubles after July 1st.

  • @TheRedDevil_NC
    @TheRedDevil_NC 16 днів тому +8

    I’m glad he’s with us. Not a good start but I’m giving him next year before I decide

    • @chrishahn841
      @chrishahn841 16 днів тому

      Hilarious sounds like you’re a loser like him.

    • @arkrazor354
      @arkrazor354 15 днів тому +1

      He will be unmovable after this season b/c of his contract structure. That's the problem.

  • @xWESTICLESx
    @xWESTICLESx 16 днів тому +21

    Useless player. BUY HIM OUT before we are stuck for the next 7 years!

  • @hassanahmad3463
    @hassanahmad3463 13 днів тому

    I feel for the guy TBH. Yes, he is making a lot of money. Also, I've been in that spot where you can get in your own head after years of strong/elite performance. This is prob a combo of issues. The system and line arrangements have sucked all year (not just his linemates). He got a massive contract and prob feels the heat for it and I suspect he is prob lacking confidence now after his own performance and being on the third line all year. Fingers crossed for him to turn it around.

  • @Leafer55
    @Leafer55 14 днів тому +1

    His body language says he's scared the buy out is coming.

  • @ardavansarraf2973
    @ardavansarraf2973 16 днів тому +7

    Excuses excuses excuses…he had a full season to show his impact. The ONLY game he made an impact was vs Winnipeg in Winnipeg, he had 2 goals. Other than that, he’s invisible for 82 games

    • @scottaguirre1145
      @scottaguirre1145 16 днів тому

      Calm down. He's not the reason we got bounced round 1 again.

  • @Local_Yeti
    @Local_Yeti 15 днів тому

    A lot of time and so many chances, but he strikes me as a guy who is really difficult to form relationships with. Especially as a teammate. Like, this feels like a tennis interview.

  • @BobSacamano226
    @BobSacamano226 15 днів тому +2

    He has now been on three teams and lacked heart on any of them. Luc and Blake should be fired for this trade alone. Gave up three players and a pick to give this guy a max eight year deal at 8.5. He even talks bad. Seems it’s out of his control

  • @gonephishing100
    @gonephishing100 16 днів тому

    What else is he going to say in regard to his performance? His contract is an issue for the GM to address, not the player.

  • @michaeltilley9143
    @michaeltilley9143 16 днів тому +1

    8.5 million

  • @jaydee8864
    @jaydee8864 16 днів тому +7

    PLD had a full season to prove his worth and failed. Cut ties now before the team is stuck.We need hard working players and he did not show much promise.

    • @wyzmann32
      @wyzmann32 16 днів тому

      Completely stupid post. The system was trash. Players should not be in position where they always have to think. The Kings need to put in a better system where players can just play and not think.

  • @emptonik2437
    @emptonik2437 11 днів тому

    Not the biggest PLD fan but it’s not really his fault for making 8.5? What is he supposed to tell Blake “you know what don’t pay me that much I’m not worth it?” Disappointing season for sure but let’s not act like he has control over how much $ he makes

  • @petertaylorson9
    @petertaylorson9 15 днів тому

    Give the guy time

  • @user-tc6be1yr9x
    @user-tc6be1yr9x 16 днів тому +5

    You internet trolls, who have never played, are what is wrong with the world. PLD answered like a man. He'll be better next year.

    • @aggressivelychad
      @aggressivelychad 16 днів тому

      He played with bottom six or even bottom three forwards most of the season. When he got run with Arvidsson or Fiala, he ramped up. Better luck next year, PL.

    • @BobSacamano226
      @BobSacamano226 15 днів тому +1

      Are you his mom? Not a troll if you speak the truth, just because you have a different view. The guy had 16 goals and took bad penalties because he’s lazy. Period. I say he does worse next year.

  • @BobSacamano226
    @BobSacamano226 15 днів тому +1

    The best place for him is LTIR.

  • @johndesousa7379
    @johndesousa7379 7 днів тому

    Dubois (of wood) only got 16 goals, 24 assists and played all 82 games this year. He makes 8,500,000 a year on a 7 year contract. He's not even worth 3 million with those numbers. In his entire career he hasn't scored over 28 goals. Why would any team give him such a huge contract. He hasn't proved himself. Talent means nothing if you don't have the work ethics.

  • @SJSharks37
    @SJSharks37 15 днів тому

    If He gets bought out come to San Jose sharks we will take a risk

  • @ManAcadie
    @ManAcadie 16 днів тому +2

    His "not in my control" bullshit is such a poor excuse...."I can't control how my summer will be"? Wtf is that supposed to mean. Such a loser attitude. He doesn't deserve to be in the nhl.

  • @garyelder4610
    @garyelder4610 15 днів тому

    Just needs to get to June 26 and then he really has no reason to perform.

  • @Beatzerrr
    @Beatzerrr 14 днів тому +1

    Not a lot of talk about the team… lots of talking about himself. This guy is so self centered😭😭

  • @derianespinosa5727
    @derianespinosa5727 16 днів тому +1

    I think if we can get a coach who instills discipline in the team and has him work, he’ll excel but it’s up to him to get the best out of himself. Not happy about his contract but if he can be better next season and really use his physique, it’ll be a different story!!

  • @chrisjets-fan6505
    @chrisjets-fan6505 13 днів тому

    Sorry but he doesn’t seem right… agree with comment above that he needs to go on LTIR. Hoping the best for him.

  • @billonbass2286
    @billonbass2286 14 днів тому +1

    He had ALL SEASON to "play like he can play." Lying copout. Dump this guy ASAP.

  • @paincorp2
    @paincorp2 16 днів тому +10

    All due respect from just "A Fan"...Sorry, but those 'Things you can control" you did NOT control all season. For 8.5M/yr you should be able to produce anywhere on any line at any time. That's LEADERSHIP money and you needed a "Point System" from the coaching staff?!? Your cap and term are on Rob Blake. He'll pay for that. Your Laissez-faire attitude toward this game and this team is something you should pay for, not the team or its fans. In 44 years of watching Kings hockey, I have NEVER seen a more shiftless, lazy player take the ice this season than you. Have some pride and dignity in your game for crimeny sake! Someone's gotta say it. Happy to volunteer. Grow a set, prove me wrong and change your attitude. There are a lot of guys in that room you can learn that from, start with Mr. Danault. Buy him lunch when you talk with him and make it expensive. He's worth it.

    • @chrishahn841
      @chrishahn841 16 днів тому +1

      Couldn’t have said it any better.

    • @arbor-sq4jk
      @arbor-sq4jk 16 днів тому +1

      tell us how u really feel

    • @daveyoung9484
      @daveyoung9484 15 днів тому

      True 💯facts

    • @daveyoung9484
      @daveyoung9484 15 днів тому

      Your loosing it dukes

    • @arkrazor354
      @arkrazor354 15 днів тому +2

      Bullseye. This is leadership money and term. Fiala and Danault got term and $$$ and had no problems with any of these coaches or systems. PLD was put on the 4th line b/c unlike Danault and Fiala, he didn't perform. BO is possible at 1/3rd of the AAV for this year only. 2/3rd's after that.

  • @hyepride23
    @hyepride23 16 днів тому +4

    48 year old Kopi > Prime PLD

  • @hyepride23
    @hyepride23 16 днів тому +6

    Chump couldnt even produce playing against other teams 4th liners and he thinks he can produce vs 1st liners?! Gtfo here.

  • @mchunkyadrian9560
    @mchunkyadrian9560 14 днів тому +1

    He needs to go

  • @Tombauer97
    @Tombauer97 16 днів тому +14

    Get this guy off this team.

  • @turdferguson5723
    @turdferguson5723 16 днів тому +14

    PLD=locker room cancer

  • @user-nj2wm6gw6s
    @user-nj2wm6gw6s 6 днів тому

    Joke of a hockey player

  • @KevinEricMcCarthy
    @KevinEricMcCarthy 16 днів тому +30

    BS…don’t believe him. He’s got no heart, he’s got no stamina. Buy him out before his birthday for 1/3 the cost of his contract or trade hime before July 1st, before his No Movement clause kicks in for the next 4 years

    • @hyepride23
      @hyepride23 16 днів тому +3

      Agree 100%

    • @Willsmith547
      @Willsmith547 16 днів тому +1

      100% a Winnipeg jets fan

    • @paules0099
      @paules0099 15 днів тому

      Wow! You guys are brutal! I believe he can rebound. If you buy out his contract, you will be paying him till 2038! Think logically, not emotionally. Keep him and see if he gets better. If he doesn't, you can trade him for assets down the road. It's better than doing something irrational! I'm betting on him getting better.

  • @maxwellchurchill8211
    @maxwellchurchill8211 16 днів тому +13

    Please leave pld

  • @dungeree7292
    @dungeree7292 16 днів тому +8

    What a bum hahahahahaha

  • @zachv2933
    @zachv2933 10 днів тому

    gawd, exit interviews being filmed and uploaded to the world.. dreadful. I like PLD, I would even say I'm a fan of his, I like his style, he's a great hockey player. It's like moving to a new school and expected to run for class council immediately ..and win, and if you don't, people wIll HATE you for it. Leave the man alone lol

  • @dv8online
    @dv8online 15 днів тому +1

    Bad system for PLD to play in, he wasn't the only one who didn't show up for the kings... 12,22,24,55,33 all no shows- penalty kill was also a no show. Not his fault. New coach new system with speed and aggressive forecheck will help, NOT with AHL linemates. IE- Dallas, Colorado, Edmonton, Carolina, Florida. Blake is going noplace neither is Luc-

  • @RubenGabriel-wt8gs
    @RubenGabriel-wt8gs 15 днів тому

    Definitely not impressed by him. Hopefully next year he steps up. Gkg

  • @billonbass2286
    @billonbass2286 14 днів тому +1

    This guy is just a waste. So many of his answers are cop outs. This guy CAN control how hard he tries, he CAN control giving Blake Lizotte-type effort EVERY SHIFT. This guy is a lazy, gutless, bum. BUY THIS GUY OUT before his birthday - it's the cheapest way out of this disaster.

  • @CassieReimer-qm6yu
    @CassieReimer-qm6yu 14 днів тому

    Umm, umm, umm, hopefully he plays better than he talks. Too much hype on this guy, the problem is he’s full of himself. Had a problem in Columbus and in Winnipeg with attitude. He would be a much better hockey player if he could come back down to earth and play the game.

  • @3verythingLAKings
    @3verythingLAKings 16 днів тому +2

    Any kings fan despising this man is completely fake and wrong. Yes he didn’t have the greatest season but it’s one season. He still has other seasons to prove himself. He isn’t the only reason we played as poor as we did throughout times in the season. Coming to a new organization isn’t easy and nobody knows what that’s like. We’re all just fans. Giving threats and just trashing him after one season is stupid and unfair for him.

    • @garyelder4610
      @garyelder4610 15 днів тому +1

      Wow, after 50 years as a Kings fan I now find out I’m fake and wrong. He didn’t even try. If he was giving 100% every night and just didn’t have puck luck I would agree, but he didn’t even try

    • @3verythingLAKings
      @3verythingLAKings 5 днів тому

      @@garyelder4610 yes I get that it seems he doesn’t care but if your defining him after one season then that’s stupid. It’s not easy to go from one organization to the next. He isn’t the only reason our team didn’t take the next step. Everyone had something to do with it.

  • @mickhoddy
    @mickhoddy 16 днів тому

    I mean listen he’s not entirely wrong… PLD is the 2nd most skilled Center on this team by a long shot. And Phil Danault is a 3rd line center on a deep Stanley Cup contending team. Period. So what the F is the problem?!! Pull our heads out

  • @user-hn9tn5tm2z
    @user-hn9tn5tm2z 16 днів тому +3

    Obviously PLD doesn’t want to play hockey anymore. His body language and facial language shows an indifference and apathy. He was biting his fingernails and playing with his mustache and beard. What adult almost 26 behaves this way on public TV and media outlets in hockey world. Something is missing upstairs. He had 82 games to prove his skills, energy, and toughness, all of which awfully flunked out. Dump him for sure, bite the bullet and take the losses and move on with this dud.

  • @Fluery
    @Fluery 15 днів тому +1

    Everything's out of his control yet everything's on "him" and he needs to do better? He seems so nervous and NO confidence in this interview... he needs to be let go he's not going to get better. HUGE disappointment this season. I wasn't sure about him at first then I started giving him the benefit of the doubt and now I know, he's an on ice coaster non-compete player.

  • @raiderj32able
    @raiderj32able 15 днів тому +1

    Dump truck, huge mistake picking this guy up.

  • @fredtaylor6079
    @fredtaylor6079 16 днів тому +1

    What an epic failure this guy is. He didn't answer the questions. More fire, no compassion.

  • @FeedMeMedia
    @FeedMeMedia 16 днів тому +3

    I feel like it's a marriage where your wife doesn't prove she can take care of the house and the kids because of adversity, but you can buy her out and get a divorce and get a 50% discount within the first year oppose the stuck with her until your kids 18! I know it seems crude but I don't trust this guy

  • @hyepride23
    @hyepride23 16 днів тому

    🗑️

  • @Gaylel1
    @Gaylel1 16 днів тому +8

    Your contract should be bought out. A waste.

  • @s.b.3275
    @s.b.3275 15 днів тому

    LA f'd up, now they're crying, they overrated the player and panicked because Kopitar is at the twilight years of is career and they're trying to buy themselves a team the last few years acquiring Arvidson, Fiala, Gravikrov and Danault and overpaid for everyone in the process, just too bad. This is not on PLD, this is on management. PLD can't control other peoples expectations, all and all he's a fine top 6 forward with size that can score and complement a line, he's not supposed to be the top player on his line and never was and would probably be better utilised as a winger in the NHL but everyone so far as placed unrealistic expectations on him and now they're paying the price. Just f'n do him a favor, buy him out so he can sign a low cost deal and reestablish himself in the league as more of a complementary piece then being the guy you build around. Play him like Dallas plays Mason Marchment and you'll have a good player on your hands but don't expect him to replace Kopitar, that's f'n dumb. Fans where dumb, Columbus and LA had unrealistic expectations of him and showed they are incompetent when ot comes to evaluating players and now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Columbus as done the same with Leine, another player that as dealt with unrealistic expectations, both cursed because teams drafted them top 3. That wasn't there fault, Dubois was a reach when they drafted him a 3 and the same happened with Kotkaniemi in MTL. All decent players with unfair expectations by coaches, fans and management.