Bat Label Begins: Reviewing And Ranking Black Label Comics (2019)
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2023
- Hi. This is a video that reviews and rates every single comic released on the Black Label imprint during 2019. Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, The Joker and Harley Quinn (among others) all get their own mature miniseries.
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I do think the Black Label imprint would have had a more significant impact and kept high-end talent interested if they hadn’t reacted so cowardly to the very first pushback.
Lol "high-end" talent is still there 🤨
What do you mean?
@@thegmanofEAPHe's referring to batman's battarang
Dude, the fact your channel struggles when it is the best channel for in depth comic book discussion is sad. I love this. So much I've been recommended through this.
Thank you very much for the effort! And, I'm not exaggerating to struggle. It's for reals. Like I said in the video, getting one age restricted video HURT a lot. I'm not sure the channel will recover.
Please don’t give up.
This is by FAR the absolute best comics channel on this or other platforms.
Your stuff is totally top-notch, brilliantly presented + excellently/thoroughly researched.
No-one else even comes close to covering the things you do as well as you do.
Every video is a pleasure to watch + re-watch.
It’s criminal how little recognition you get, but truly, quality always wins out in the end, + you have it in spades sir !!!...
Please hang in there, it’s selfish I know, but those of us who watch REALLY love + appreciate your work.
Wishes for the best for you from the UK.
Commonwealth pride! Ha ha ha. I will do my best. That's all I can really do while hoping the fortunes of this channel finally turn around.
Yes
@S😊trangeBrainParts 😊
literally the best comic youtuber
Thank you very much. Now if UA-cam's algorithm would only agree. Heh.
It is no contest dude, he totally is.
I highly recommend The Last God or The Fellspyre Chronicles hardcover. The amount of world building and detail is unmatched and the book design itself is a total treat.
Total shame that it wasn't an oversized Deluxe Edition.
@@marcelo-ramos I just saw Phil at SDCC and he said they talked about it, but printing the map was like impossible at the deluxe size.
Because a full deluxe would have been too insane
I loved The Last God and am disappointed that it seems destined not to return.
Glad to hear you enjoyed WW: Dead Earth as that was one of my favorites from Black Label as well. DWJ's artwork goes really well with the oversized format and he was clearly having a blast drawing it. I'll admit DWJ as a writer kind of does the same thing over and over again with slight differences, characters dealing with grief or loss interspliced with insane action beats, but I think Dead Earth is probably my favorite execution of his formula (though I haven't read all of his stuff yet). If you liked Dead Earth I would recommend his other stuff, he's a master of really well executed action comics that also make you feel things. Not a revolutionary, but damn good at what he does
I fully intend to check out his other work. I have a feeling I'll like it.
@@StrangeBrainParts murder falcon and the recently eisner winner Do a Powerbomb are a blast
I will check those out first. Thank you.
@@StrangeBrainParts Murder Falcon is so good, great thrill ride that takes some turns you don't expect.
@@polaris_draws @StrangeBrainParts Extremity is also very good.
Poor man's Vertigo.
Poorer man's Marvel Knights
Pretty much. =/
@@allfinesunshine5184
Now that's more accurate 😂
Nah Strange and Mr. MIRACLE were great.
Sounds about right
I loved Last God as a dark fantasy work. The storytelling and worldbuilding is so intricate and intriguing without feeling impossible to follow. I really enjoyed it.
I only wish the hard fantasy genre appealed to me. Because Last God is not poorly done at all. I just couldn't get into it.
Especially for an original idea, there is so much the story gives. Absolutely one of my favorite comics ever
19:26 "if there is a net time..." damn, that hit hard. Not sure what you're going through but finding someone to talk to helps, best of luck
It's financial. Hard times have fallen.
Batman Damned seemed to me to be a follow up to the graphic novel Joker (by the same team), since it kind of ends where Damned starts.
“Yep. It sure is” BAHAHAHA
Brilliant hard cut, sir.
I hope there is a next time. I really enjoy your videos and analysis, thanks for making them.
Strange Adventures and Dead Earth were really great. Daniel Warren Johnson has a very rough and emotive sketchbook feel to his art, and while I think his stories are more simple, I don't mean that in a bad way because it leaves so much room for the rawness of his art to express the heart of the characters, and he's just so good at that. One of my favorite people in comics over the last few years. Strange Adventures felt like a very introspective take on a golden age character I wasn't that familiar with admittedly, but it really reminded me of Black Hammer emotionally. King and Lemire are some of my favorites in the biz, and Lemire returning to Sweet Tooth is something that should excite me, but I love that book so dearly that I just don't think I want to be let down if the new material isn't good. Sometimes I think it's just better to let sleeping dogs lie, especially when what was put together originally is such a masterwork of storytelling. I still get emotional when I think about that ending.
I will let you know. right now that you should avoid Sweet Tooth: The Return. Especially if you really, really like the original series.
I love your videos. Keep up the great work!!
Your videos helped me when I was younger find interest in comics and even some level of obscurity or mature comic reads, but also analytical content. I shared several of your videos on forums and people love them. I'm glad to have found your channel and wish you the best.
Thank you very much! I hope you continue to enjoy the videos well into the future.
Informative as always
I’m glad you’re doing the Murphyverse separately. This label didn’t really appeal to me until 2021
It's not something I'll get to immediately. I just wanted it noted that I put aside all the side universe stuff to the, uh, side when it came to this review.
Let´s rank these 10:
These I like:
1. Harleen
2. DRK: The Golden Child (a rare post-2000 Miller book I like!)
3. Joker: Killer Smile
4. The Question
5. Batman: Damned
Ok to mid:
6. The Last God
7. Last Knight On Earth
8. Wonder Woman: Dead Earth
9. Superman: Year One (the insanity of issue 2 is kinda fun)
Borderline bad:
10. Criminal Sanity
Great Video! I can't wait to see your opinions on the next years of Black Label
Thanks for the content. Always entertaining and greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much!
Great video, I had thought to pick some 1 or more of these titles but not sure about the quality, now I an confidently grab a few
Good review on these old titles,gonna get a few of them too.LOVED the Bermejo art on Batman: Damned. It was detailed and had so many backgrounds:EXCELLENT. I may also get Wonder Woman: Dead Earth.I like the concept,but,the artwork isn't exactly a style I'd normally buy,but,may make an exception this time. Good video as usual,keep'em coming-PLEASE.🙂🙂🙂🙂
I really enjoy your channel - thank you.
I'd be interested in hearing your take on Elric comics - PC Russell stuff, the current Titan reimaginings, funny hat Conans, anything really.
loved the video, and hoping for a followup on the next years of black label releases.
You made me put "last knight on earth" on my buylist, had my doubts even though i loved Snyders batman run. Gonna pick up next time i buy comics, love the videos 😎
Awesome. It's just fun and entertaining. It's probably as good as his Batman run. Although, my memory of it is pretty foggy.
I love these type of videos from you! Very excited for you to continue on with this series, and hopefully the views warrant you doing more content like this :)
Thank you! I hope so too.
Underrated channel. Keep making videos and I’ll keep watching them.
Sounds like a deal. :)
I love you did a Black Label video! Admittedly I pick up a lot of Batman ones but I began exploring a lot of titles. If you cover more I can't wait for you to cover Rouges, Swamp Thing: Green Hell, Batman: The Impostor, Strange Adventures, Rorschach and Sean Murphy's White Knight.
I'm glad you put Last Knight On Earth on the top. Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo killed it in this title and I'm sad they said that was their "last" solo batman title but I hope they do another collaboration on Batman. Both of them are the reason I got into comics and I'll always pick up their collabs. Great video as always good sir, you need a million subs already.
Thank you very much! Hear that UA-cam? How about giving someone who doesn't rapidly produce shitty cringe videos a chance for once? How about that?
@@StrangeBrainParts unfortunately too many people are dumb. 🤣
Well, maybe I need to dumb things down for a while. :)
@@StrangeBrainPartsLove the bitterness
I thought i had the notification bell on but apparently not because i've missed like half a year worth of videos on here!
Good stuff, peak comics content on youtube
It might not be you. UA-cam has consistently avoided suggesting my content. But...good to see you back! Thanks.
Good video, hope you go through the other years of Black Label because this is a pretty entertaining overview
Thank you! If it gets a lot of feedback and attention I will definitely put out more.
Thank you for your insights. Black Label had so much promise at the start, but then DC back-peddled. Why create an adult imprint then censor it?
Indeed. That seems very weird and contradictory.
I really enjoyed this episode. I loved that original Question series and it would feel weird to read a Question story by anyone else. But yeah, I do know traditional comics pass through many hands, and your praise of LeMire is acclaim enough.
I've read a few other titles in this review. There's even a prequel of sorts to the Dark Knight Returns saga called The Last Crusade that I've never heard mentioned in connection with those.
Thank you for all you do!
Very good! Would like more Black Label stuff.
Thanks for this. I'll definitely look at picking up those top 4 titles.
please make more batch reviews like this, really appreciate hearing what all these books are about in a specific group format like this. I want to hear your thoughts on Nice House in particular
Nice House is coming up soon! Well, I guess it would be in the 2021 video. Unless 2020 runs short, then I might combine the two.
Love how you manage to distinguish between analytical points and personal preference points. It’s refreshing to see someone so analytical yet also so self-aware and unpretentious. Especially, in our current era of media illiteracy and motivated bad faith readings
I appreciate your analyses! I cant wait to see your views on the murphyverse. I adore the white knight books
Éste es uno de mis canales favoritos acerca de comics. Espero que puedas seguir adelante con él. Saludos desde Argentina.
Another great video
I was happy to hear once more the iconic phrase of the channel, only to by crushed within seconds.
Another great youtuber killed by corporate misunderstanding of the media they acquired, pretty much like the comic books he analyzed. It seems everything good, everything we gave for granted is coming to an end. Life is becoming less and less worth living.
Fare thee well. You will be missed.
Best comics channel on UA-cam!
Thank you very much. Spread the word!
I'm doing my part to boost your channel by sharing it with my friends! Glad I discovered you after that age restriction kerfuffle because the algorithm is still occasionally on your side
Thank you! I appreciate the effort. Everything helps, that's for sure.
I'm a sucker for these kind of videos, so I hope you have fun making them!
Ever considered going back to do more Young Animal ones?
Yeah, I do enjoy making compilation videos around one theme too.
There's not a lot left to Young Animal that I haven't covered. But it's one I wouldn't mind going back over and maybe updating or refining what I did before. And, of course, to add anything that I might have missed in the original.
Black label has the potential to become a successful "ultimate" line of comics. Im a huge fan of the disconnected series from the main line. Cant wait till you hit house on the lake.
Such a great channel.
Thank you!
Good overview of Black Label’s first year. Honestly, the only one I read/had any interest in was Harleen. While that is a more surface-level retelling, it was the one that appealed to me the most. I think the label’s over reliance on Batman characters turned me off very quickly to checking out the other titles, although after this video, I think I might seek out a couple others.
Side note: Damn shame on Joker/Harley having a dud ending because from the art alone, I was actually kind of excited to check that one out the most 😂. Oh well, maybe I’ll get to it eventually after some others.
First and foremost: I really love this channel and everything about it. Please don't give up! My own situation is rather dire at the moment, otherwise I'd throw a few dollars in the proverbial jar, to help keep the lights on. All I can do to help right now is like, comment, and subscribe!
I'm actually really glad you did this video! I'd taken a peek into Black Label a while ago, but backed off. I wasn't sure if the titles were connected in some way or not. Plus, as much as I love the various iterations of Batman and his universe, I'm a bit burned out at this point. Last God looks promising! I do love fantasy, especially gritty fantasy. On the surface, it looks like the sort of thing that would have been serialized in Heavy Metal back in the day.
Hey, all I can ask is that you subscribe and watch the video. If you can do more that's excellent. But just getting the damn algorithm to notice this channel again is really what I need. So all that sweet, sweet engagement and watch time helps a LOT. Thank you for that.
Glad that you tackle the imprint as there is a lot to be said about Black Label being propped up and Vertigo to be pushed aside. No idea why but I think that deserves a video of it's own.
I would also say that Americans really do have a weird thing with sex and violence where both exist in a paradox that it can never be too much but also not so little for people to cry out prudish or overt exploitation, also oddly by the same groups of people.
I think the outcry seems to happen more often when it comes to superheroes. That's my observation, anyway. It seems like the perception is superheroes are strictly for children, so they must be sexually sanitized...even when the comic is intentionally made for adults.
I think it's a damn shame because it sort defeats the purpose of black label being this new spicy mature line of DC books, I mean it mind as well be in the main imprint if the characters are still cursing with symbols and their naughty bits being off screen or even being afraid to cover dark subject matters with in the DC universe, but that is just my opinion.
Keep on doing what you do. I love your content.
I'll do what I can!
Didn't realize Rorschach came out the year after, looking forward to if you ever cover that year of DC's black label catalog.
Yup. There are three Tom King miniseries that came out the following year. Strange Adventures, Rorschach and Batman/Catwoman.
@@StrangeBrainPartsI really enjoyed Rorsarch. Much like the HBO series, it used the Watchmen comic as a foundation to tell a story that still held true to the original.
I hate Rorschach for the ditko slander
@@paulakroy2635 funny you mention that, I actually thought the "The Citizen," section was really funny because of how dead on it satirized Mr. A
Can’t wait for Pt. 2
Hey, if this gets enough attention there will definitely be a continuation.
@@StrangeBrainParts sweet! Batman the Imposter is a favorite of mine and I’m looking forward to your thoughts on it.
I’d really enjoy seeing an “underrated WildStorm” series looking at overlooked titles from that imprint/publisher
Great video
Thank you!
At last, I was curious about your opinion on black label. I already heard comicpop's and the historician's
I hope you go through some of the other Black Label titles, particularly your take on Swamp Thing: Green Hell. I'm not sure how to feel about it, myself.
Your comparison of Black Label to Elseworlds seems appropriate. As I recall, Batman's presence dominated those 90s books as well.
In my opinion, Black Label has been an underwhelming effort following the late great Vertigo imprint.
Some of the stories have been really great. I personally enjoyed Wonder Woman: Dead Earth and some of the others. But, overall, I'd say this editorial experiment didn't live up to what the intentions where.
Great video as always, Overlord. Really hope the channel gets the support it needs. 🙁
I hope one day you'll talk about my comic on your channel lol. Keep up the great work.
What comic might that be? And thanks!
@StrangeBrainParts it's a scifi space opera about aliens, prophecies, love, and bloodshed. It's called Star Crossed. I'll be sure to send you a copy of issue one once I finish it!
Awesome! I look forward to it.
You're amazing dude
Thanks! I have my moments.
Sometimes I feel like DC's motto should be "Our only goal is to break our toys to prove how grownup we are." Black Label is the leading line for that. Every single time I've read something from them, the characters are broken in some way. Superman. The Question (I literally don't know what the point was of that story, it felt like there was supposed to be a fifth issue.) Adam Strange (please, Tom King, just stop). Then there's all the "I don't know how to tell this character's genre of story, so I'll do a post-apocalyptic story instead." The only books in this year that worked for me were Batman: Damned (because DC has kept throwing weird background stuff at the Waynes and Gotham for so long that there's no reason the Enchantress couldn't be part of Batman's origin story at this point) and Harleen (because it did exactly what it promised in telling the sketched-over story of Harley Quinn's origin, showing how she could see the Joker as a misunderstood person because of the way he acted around her -- if telling a simple story simply is wrong, then what's the point of comic books at all?).
Mind you, Marvel's been breaking its own heroes in their own way. Back in '84-'85 Marvel had Secret Wars, a fun tale of bashing their superhero toys together, and DC had their first Crisis, a heavy event with the fate of worlds and histories in the balance. Now Marvel bashes their toy soldiers together and pretends the results had a point beyond selling magazines, and DC pretends to profound, adult ideas wrapped around characters meant to instill hope and virtues in children. It's all just depressing -- the last thing superheroes should be.
Man you really sound intelligent
@@iswitchedsidesforthiscat I apologize, and promise to present myself more accurately in the future. 😁
@@SingularityOrbit It was a compliment
@@iswitchedsidesforthiscat I'm sorry, that was meant to be a joke. I guess it doesn't quite work printed on a screen.
Absolutely love how you didn’t even bother reviewing Superman Year One lol
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
White Knight I was not a fan of originally then I learned to appreciate it more and more.
Curse of the White Knight however was an absolute knockout from beginning to end and one of the greatest Batman stories I've ever read
Take a tour of 'The New Statesmen' of 1988. These were all going for the 'darkest sketch' awards Miller had won pretty fairly by 'Give Me Liberty'. I have no idea how 'Martha Washington Goes To War' came out. Heavy criticism of the 'Superhero' conceit, deep post-human threads. I couldn't get it out of my head till at least 10 years later.
The Last God is insanely well written and just so good. I highly recommend, especially if you like Phillip Kennedy Johnson's Warworld Saga in Action Comics
I think Linkara put it best with Superman Year One when he says at the exact midpoint of the series, editorial wasn't looking and Frank Miller just sorta went at it like no one was watching.
black label should have been a single adult anthology modeled after Heavy Metal with the main stories being Superman batman and wonder woman ones and the smaller and more experimental stories as backups because, at the end of the day, that is what it is
That's actually a pretty great idea.
tl;dr: "Frank Miller has been phoning it in for the past two decades. Yep, he sure does." 😏
I figure the alcohol troubles ruined his mind and he just kept writing anyway.
Black Label's (and Dc's) overreliance on Batman, Joker and Harley is borderline unbearable to me. The Question book was my favorite on that account
Ps: I Hope There is a next time! This is my favorite comic book discussion channel.
in my opinion it was great idea making this imprint, not as a new Vertigo but just like you said as a darker superhero content... In fact, it really sucks that they don't think about it back on 80', maybe series like Lobo, Demon, Deadman, Spectre, Question, Shadow, Sandman Mystery Theatre, Starman and few more would be right now more noticed by comic fans. In fact there's not even proper edition of this runs or they are out of print like Starman series.
The Golden Child art has a lot of Paul Pope in it too
That was a perfect analysis of Superman Year One lmao
I actually laughed out loud at that one😂😂
be really interested to see you go through all the black label comics they seem to be DC best work as of late and kinda let the writers do whatever they want with their properties
The art in golden child is amazing, I want more of his work.
Me too. I intend to check out more of his work in the future.
Mesmo Delivery is what you're looking for.
The last God is my favorite comics of red a long time all the material included in the hardback deluxe edition or whatever you want to call it is fantastic. Worth every penny.
I don't know why comments so far are surprisingly hyped for this video, but so am I lmao.
I could use the hype. :)
Because it is a good damned video ;)
I feel like it was implied that the more adult themes and such would give the writers more freedom, just for them to immediately self sensor the creators. Unfortunate.
All because of a Bat-dong. I mean, that's pretty ridiculous, in my opinion.
@@StrangeBrainParts I completely agree! I mean, is editorial's stance that he is a eunuch?! If he has a member, what's wrong with showing it? Like you said, "brightening the image" exposing his junk assumed the artist took time to draw it despite it not planning on being showed hahaha
Exactly. The excuse was a ridiculous. I mean, come on...just admit you were fine with the Batarang until people complained about it. It wasn't a printing error.
What disappointed me about Black Label was how tame it felt. Barring the Bat-dong controversy, none of the titles felt radically different from what DC was already publishing to warrant an entire label. They were just minis that were slightly more violent and dropped a swear hear and then.
Vertigo felt countercultural and offbeat. Black Label feels like a gimmick to sell graphic novels.
I think you put it well.
I think Black Label is fine for the most part, but I’m not on board with all of the titles. At the moment the ones I like right now are Wonder Woman Dead Earth & Tom King’s The Human Target. I am excited for Batman Gargoyle of Gotham.
¡Gracias!
Thank you very much!
I do not like the premise of apocalyptic world plus Batman, but just this once, and because of this review, I'll give it a chance!
It was quirky and weird and had a lot of ideas in it. Normally, *just* having good ideas in a story isn't enough to tell a story, but they come at a quick enough pace to make it worthwhile.
Finally figured out the best way to describe The Last God: it's Berserk for a western audience.
12 issues that are so completely accessible in terms of lore, that it can just take the reader for a ride into the deep zone.
It sucks that this type of fantasy isn't your type because this narrative takes you for a ride
Ah! That is a good description. I do agree...I wish this was a genre that I could connect with.
I do have a question if you don't mind, with the deaths of Vic sage do you find it to be beginner friendly. I checked some of the reviews out and it doesn't seem to be, I was hoping to get into it because I read the first few pages and really liked it
I think you can read it without reading the original series. I don't think it heavily relies on the prior continuity and it is self-contained.
The Black Label stuff I've read so far were Harleen, The Deaths of Vic Sage, The Last Knight on Earth and Batman Damned.
The first one is decent. The second one is very great, reminiscent to the glory days of the 80s run by Denny O'Neill. The third one is entertaining, way better than the author's Batman run or even Metal. The last one was pretty meh for me story wise, but I love Bermejo's artwork.
Currently, I'm following the imprint only for the White Knight stuff and the Sandman Universe comics.
LETS GOOOO
YESSS
Will the next video be 2020's Black Label books? And what about 2021 and 2022?
If there’s enough demand I’ll do everything from 2020, 2021 and 2022.
Haven't read any black label books, so I'm using this as a catalogue to see if I'm actually interested in any of them. Batman Damned is gorgeous, but I don't have any interest in the story. Hoping for a video on year 2!
It's really well-rendered sand-paper. I don't wish to scrape my eyes against it.
I’ve heard some people call this label “Bat Label” due to how played out the Batman characters/concepts are
An exploration of other ideas or characters should be encouraged, especially for lesser known characgers
It definitely relies HEAVILY on Bat characters, that's for sure.
@@StrangeBrainPartsAn Inferior Five Black Label series could be frikkin cool
Thanks
Thank you very much! That is rather kind of you!
@@StrangeBrainParts You are welcome.
Reminds me of Marvel's MAX line. The name is just an excuse to tell "adult" stories that aren't really very adult.
It's eye-rollingly bad actually. "Adult" as used when describing comics *only* means:
·T*ts
·Gore
·Cussing
and not "complex social topics well thought-out".
Honestly the imprint has had some really amazing comics coming out of it.
The White Knight universe and Sandman Universe are great.
Wonder Woman Historia and Dead Earth are epic
The Last God, Nice House on the Lake, Human Target, Strange Adventures, and many other series are just amazing as well
Would you ever like to cover Paul Chadwick's Concrete and/or the late Drew Hayes' Poison Elves?
Concrete is a definite maybe. And I already did a Poison Elves video. :)
@@StrangeBrainParts Then I just have to look for it! :-) Thank you so much for your great work! :-)
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!
The problem with Bat lab... I mean, Black Label, it just felt focused on Batman. And the other comics got sidelined.
Dead Earth was far and away my favorite of year 1. Damned has been added to my 'Art Books' collection.....the story, meh. The rest of year 1 that I read were disposable. Looking forward to a year 2 installment if you're so inclined.
I am inclined if everyone else is. :)
I've been seeing a lot of these books come through lately.
First, the shade thrown at Frank Miller was hilarious. Second, do you believe this was worth DC closing Vertigo?
No, I don't. I think Vertigo should have continued and maybe Black Label should have become Vertigo Black Label.
@@StrangeBrainParts Yeah. What kinda hinders Black Label (for me, anyways)is that they're just copying Marvel Max with their characters. What made Vertigo unique was that they were able to reinvent obscure dc characters and push creator own content. Having R Rated Batman stories kinda defeats the purpose. If there was one story from this list that would fit right at home with Vertigo, it would be Question
Womder Woman Dead Earth was the best of the selected titles
Is the death of Vic Sage what started Renee Montoya as the question?
That's right. But this miniseries isn't about that at all. Vic Sage dying happened way back in the weekly 52 series, I think?
Have you read Suicide Squad: Blaze ? Would you put it on the list ?
That title would be in the 2002 video when it gets made.