HOW TO STREAM MUSIC with a RECORD PLAYER! YAMAHA Record Player REVIEW
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If you've been thinking to yourself what turntable should I buy, you won't find a more feature packed record player than the Yamaha MusicCast Vinyl 500. Arguably the best record player for the money if you are into vinyl records and streaming music. The Yamaha Vinyl 500 answers the question: can digital music be played on a record player?
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I acually think this could be a great item for those that want an nearly all-in-one solution. Pair this thing with say like an Andover Spinbase, and you have a one stop shop for all things music in your home.
Your not wrong, Matt. The great thing about it is that it easily can play with both modern and vintage set ups.
I received this turntable this past week as a gift. The timing of your review was perfect! I have it connected to a Marantz SR-4001 driving a pair of Ohm Walsh 2’s and a Klipsch RW-10D subwoofer. I haven’t been able to spend a lot time with it yet, but so far I’m impressed. I’m uncertain if I’ll invest in an MusicCast speakers yet. I was able to connect the turntable to a UE boom via Bluetooth to listen to an album on the patio. I thought that was pretty cool!
I really enjoy your channel! I’m getting ready to invest in a bigger TV and eventually a new receiver. Your reviews are the best I’ve found for someone who is looking to make an investment in home theater or audio.
You have a great channel, a lot of my audiophile knowledge has come from it and really its my goto place to know about great stuff on the market. Keep up the good work and your channel will get big someday.
I love this review, even though I already have 2 turntables, I love your inclusion of vintage gear (receivers mostly.) Thanks Andrew
Thanks for watching!
I found that the most effective ways to get good sound from a lifestyle TT is through using an elliptical stylus and a separate phono-stage. These two things improved the sound on my Sony LX-300USB tenfold.
The golden rule with Hi-Fi equipment is that the more features a product has, the more the product creates vibration and degrades the sound. This is particularly true with turntables which is why the more audiophile focused ones have as few features as possible.
I use a pair of vintage speakers (Castle Acoustics Richmond from February 1974) with a mid-90s amplifier (NAD 310) and I'm able to get streaming services (and a lot more) by having the TV hooked up to the amplifier through the RCA-Out port. I'm able to get music from a Blu-Ray player, a satellite TV receiver, a laptop and pretty much anything that connects through HDMI and it only takes one input slot on the amplifier.
Another awesome video! :) love all your stuff Andrew!
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Actually bought the Yamaha turntable. I agree at 700 dollar retail it’s best left on the shelf. I got mine at 495. Cartridge must be upgraded, onboard phono preamp works nothing to write home about, extra headshell impossible to find, can’t use available overhang gauges for cart setup. The thin platter rings, fixed with rubber platter mat. With rubber platter mat to dampen platter, nude stylus/cartridge it plays about as well as any turntable I have under 1000 dollar but that’s with over 200 dollar In upgrades. The music cast is cool. If I wasn’t a Yamaha fanboy, I’d probably pass on it even at 500 dollar.
Oh The little molded rubber bumpers molded into the plastic dust cover are a nice touch and sure to save the finish where the lid contacts the plinth.
I just noticed that I have bought this and the Klipsch rp6000 you reviewed 😄 you influenced my mind and I did upgrade tha stylus and cartridge
Love mine. For the few times we dig out the old records. And it connects wirelessly to our Yamaha AV amp (bonus) 🙂
Very interesting idea. I can see someone using this who wants to have a foot in the modern era, but maintain a certain minimalist look to their system. It would have been even more impressive if Yamaha made their streaming output route through the phono level output. That would have actually preserved an input on a vintage receiver, and also been great for pranking your friends about the latest "record" you just picked up...
Would you do a video on cable management? I think it would be entertaining and informative!
Great review! I was looking at this TT also. But want Semi-auto plus the streaming. Any suggestions?
Considering this as a part of a multiroom setup, as I could then play those records in any room of the house if I would build the multiroom audio system around the musiccast platform. What are your thoughts on the Yamaha multiroom system and the Yamaha WXA-50 streaming amp to connect other rooms?
Here we are in 2020, still talking and listening to vinyls and turntables 😂. Honestly I think it's cool some of this retro tech is coming back with a bit of modernization. About 4 years ago I seen one at Walmart and was like "WUUUUT" followed by about 30 seconds of me like "I can't believe these are coming back, COOOL"
I personally like to have as many things separate as possible, for the reason if one dies, you can replace just that one component. Also I find something gorgeous about a full stack of matching components (working on my marantz stack over time). But, thats just how I am. Some people like a minimalist approach, and this would definitely appeal to them, add a yamaha MCR-N560BL, and you have all your music bases covered, and looking sleek. Some people are not audiophiles, a certain headphone brand has proven that, some, just enjoy the music.
Great review, good sir. 🙌 I really hope Yamaha makes a more highend “normal” turntable that is NOT as expensive as the GT-5000. 🤞😊
Interesting product. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
Regarding the Line Out and Phono Out quibble you have.
Maybe this is Yamaha acknowledging that although this turntable will still operate in 20 - 30 years from now it's not intending to support the music streaming function with updates for longer than a decade.
Or maybe not?
I bought this turntable I upgraded the cartridge and added a power amplifier to my system I am getting great sound out of it
Simple question.. Will it work with airplay with sonos speakers? Just the turntable streaming directly to sonos speakers?
This was fun. If I was in the market for one, this would be a great option. BTW - The outtakes keep getting better and better!
Thanks! 😃
Thank you!
Yeah but no Kadie! I only watch to see her & I'm disappointed once again. He knows shes th star & will upstage him😅
Anyway, great review on a very interesting product!🍻🍸
Will try and include her soon. Funny thing is she is often sitting in the far corner behind me during A-camera filming. While you might not see her, she's often there!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews oh that's funny! Maybe shes camera shy. Everytime I catch my little, furry guy doing something unbelievably crazy & he notices me pointing th camera @ him, he'll stop or take off. I think he hates th flash though
The best thing about this review is Andrew's opinion about the cartridge, because the AT 3600L is extremely cheap (10$ on Ebay) and I use it everytime when I refurbish an old turntable. Amazing quality for the price. Stylus can be upgraded also. May be a good option if you purchase this turntable rather than buy a new 100$ cartridge. Great video ! Thank you Andrew !
What type of stylus fits on that one? AT91R?
I use the AT3600L on crappy mono records, conical styli work well on those.
But IMO, the ATVM95E is much better value for money (~40 bucks), much less sibilant, harsh but more clarity.
That Yamaha is gorgeous
Not going to lie the there is something about seeing a flawless example of an older piece. It has the same feel good vibe as seeing a classic car.
If I could add the compatibility of a pc with a purpose built audio product for streaming and DAC. Close I have come is Volumio and Raspberry pi + DAC.
I should add that I would love it if I didn't have to get a mortgage to buy it too.
That yamaha amp is a beauty.
It's really is. Thanks for watching!
Wicked cool
It is actually. Thanks for watching!
Can you play vinyl and stream over the wifi /lan to an MusicCast amp ?
Yes, you can stream vinyl via MusicCast to other MusicCast devices, though we were unable to test this directly as we were not sent MusicCast speakers/receivers, but according to Yamaha you CAN do this. You can also pair it with BT.
It has all those features but no auto off......................i have this tt and it sounds super, but the lack of auto off bugs me! I chose this tt because the rest is yamaha aswell ( S700 ) klipsch speakers.
A turntable combined with a good cd/blue ray player would be kinda neat
All In One physical media player.
Thank you
Is there a wireless receiver or a gadget that I can plug in my turntable's RCA into, and send wirelessly to my Yamaha V6A receiver? Thanks!
your V6A and this turntable both use musicast. if they are both hooked up to the same wifi and you phone with the app you can wirelessly hook up both.
Hey, just curious as to what speakers are those that you have in the back? Thank you for you great content btw, I bought the fluance rt85 after seeing your review on it
That's awesome! It's a great table. You'll find the speakers here amzn.to/35U87bb (coming soon!)
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Cool I thought they looked like their reference loudspeakers, but had to make sure! I can't wait to hear about them 👍
Hi Andrew, can the Vinyl 500 connect with Homepod? I mean can I play a Vinyl record and the output sound is on Homepod?
did you sort this out? can be streamed to the homepod?
@@nfpvids No my friend - I didn't get the information if it does. I called a retailer and they said it doesn't support homepod - I am left with no insights atm.
Hi Andrew, I have just Oder one of these, not sure if I have done the right thing, I purchased another model quite a bit cheaper found it auto stop didn’t stop when it was supposed to stop before the end of the record/music is playing and I found the speed was incorrect it was turning to fast so I took it back to the shop where I purchased it from this is in France for him to say that they do not give refunds which I thought was very strange but did offer me to purchase a different model so I went for this one instead of yet to pick it up hopefully Tuesday Wednesday of next week, I do have another record deck Linn LP 12 dated back from the early 80s the problem with it the motor and the electronics has packed up and I have been quoted €1700 roughly for it to be repaired but the present that is out of my price range this is the reason why I went out and purchased another record deck, some what Very cheap as compared with Linn. At least hopefully I’ll be able to pay my music not sure about the streaming part of it, As I am an old dude not into electronics as such but I do like listening to my music,
I have a very large pair of transmission line loudspeaker cabinets that I built back in the late 70s early 80s I just recently put a new driver here and it’s in them and they have changed completely, SEAS DRIVERS Units, 150w ,
I have listened and watched quite a lot of your tutorials on equipment and all sounds very interesting you do a great job keep up the great work I know this is from a few years ago so we probably will not read this never mind.
PHIL FROM THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOULIN FRANCE.
Andrew currently own a Fluance RT85 and as good as it is, seriously considering this turntable for 2 reasons..I have a Yamaha 803 receiver and a Yamaha CD player that would probably compliment the turntable...the other is the current turntable I own is the Fluance rt85 and the damn thing constantly vibrates no matter what I do...will I experience the same issue with the Yamaha 500?? and yes, I plan on upgrading the stylus if and when I purchase it....thanks Man, keep up the great reviews 👍
Hey Andrew! Just wanted to let you know that you're doing a great job and I hope your quality content reaches to as many people as possible.
Yours truly
A fellow audiophile
I appreciate that!
unrelated but have you ever heard of Dance Gavin Dance and their current frontman Tillian?
Although the AT-3600L cartridge can be bought for as low as $12 with shipping from China and I agree that it's pretty good. I could imagine the Nagaoka MP-110 to make great upgrade on this turntable. When it comes to streaming I still prefer to attach an external bluetooth transmitter, which I later can replace with something better.
A cartridge upgrade would definitely elevate this table. Our go-to is Ortofon blue/black. Can't say I've heard of the Nagaoka.
I did try it with the Nagaoka MP-110 and it's a great upgrade. Btw Andrew did you happen to try it with a phono stage? Can you remember the results? I know it doesn't make a lot of sense but I ended up streaming via other sources and I only use it as a turntable. Looking to possibly add a Rega Mini a2d.
@@polykarpospalainis847 When you replaced the cart. Did you also change out the headshell??
I wonder if the Music Cast feature connects to a Music Cast enabled Yamaha receiver like my RX-V1085? My only objection to the streaming features are that it adds to my source option overload. If you’re building a new system or a dedicated two channel build then this is a compelling option.
MusicCast is compatible with other MusicCast enabled devices. Should be a great solution! Thanks for tuning in!
Andrew Robinson I enjoy your reviews and discussions even if I’m really happy with all my current gear.
We hope that is the case for everyone! It's definitely the healthiest way to approach this hobby. Thank you so much for watching and for supporting the channel. It means a lot to us.
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Is the Streamer and DAC inside better or the same than the stand alone Streamer from Yamaha?
My guess is they're probably the same but without having it on hand to review, I can't be certain.
Slightly unrelated question: Do vinyl weights wear out your motor? Should I worry about them messing with wow and flutter?
I mean they can, it'd have to be a pretty awful motor though. See if the manufacturer of your turntable sells a weight for their product.
Just consider some „new” TT, Yamaha is on The list.
G’day Andrew & Kristi! Great video as usual. Just curious to know if this turntable is automatic or at least, semi automatic? Thanx in advance 👍🏼
It's not. You can read more about it here: bit.ly/YamahaCast
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thanx for that info Andrew! All the web pages i visited didn’t mention anything about manual or automatic functionality, they mainly focused their information towards the MusicCast operation. 👍🏼
@@andrewrobinsonreviews does it have autostop and height-adjustable tonearm?
I would get rid of pre-amps. OMG please build in a output that does not require a pre-amp. It's lazy in my humble opinion.
Hey at some piont everyone farts out something.
Own it.
Use it.
Be proud . . .
Another exalant review!
😂 😂 😂 I'm with you! I've been saying for years that the best receiver you have is already built into your TV so why not take an ARC connection directly into an amplifier? We appreciate you watching.
I would totally try this turntable out and would swap the cartridge to see if it can provide more oomph.
If I were to combine any two components it’s pre-amp/amp for the integrated.
I really like everything to stay modular.
Truly hate active speakers.
A cartridge swap WOULD improve things a bit here. Why no love for active speakers?
@@andrewrobinsonreviews You completely forgot to mention the DLNA feature for playing all your digital files from your home server. Some of us have lots of FLAC files...We don't really hang around paying for Qobuz/tidal every month.
@@wa2368 apologies. I cannot cover every aspect of every component, especially given the fact that I do not use DLNA nor store my own music locally, so I did forget to mention it, but that is also because I didn't use it. Thanks for watching!
I’m just not a fan of all the integrated parts. I like to keep lots of different speakers for a long time.
If I have a solid set but the amount goes out I have to hope the manufacturer will still be supporting the speaker.
The original Sonos are no longer supported and Mu best friend has 20k worth of them throughout his house.
It’s just a losing investment in my mind.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews The argument I've heard is that the amp inside an active speaker "must" be inferior to a separate b/c the amp can't "breathe." Never seen any evidence that proves this, though. Are amps akin to opening a bottle of wine?)
andrew needs to start reviewing cd and sacd players.
No, Andrew does not 😂
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Agreed. I can't figure out why anyone would buy a $3000 CD player that's the size of a tank these days, other than to mitigate stuff that is inaudible.)
Even though I’m not need to buy vinyl player right now, this was interesting to watch. But I would still like to see videos where you go with your wife to record store and try to find intetesting music with small money.
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Andrew Robinson Yeah I understand. During last half year I have visited once in record store and couple times at fleemarket. Stay safe!
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Seems strange to me that this product didn't have some sort of auto-switching between 'Out' and 'Phono Out.' The fact that you have to manually switch it, AND that said switch isn't easily accessible on the front confounds me. It seems obvious to me that when you switch the source to phono, it automatically outputs at that output. If you need to have everything output via the main out, you could have a setting that disables the switching. Maybe I'm missing something obvious?
Totally what I was thinking. Have the streaming portion always use the line out, but the switch on the back is for the record portion. So if you have a phono pre-amp that you like you can use that without having to use the switch outputs when you switch sources.
Wouldn't it be cool if it would rip your vinyl and make it available to stream afterwards. Just pick your format, storage location and let the streaming app pull in the artwork, track list and metadata (just need a bit of Shazam) and a prompt to confirm...or imagine just using Google Image search to identify the album...just sayin' ;-)
Hmmmm... interesting product....there is a market I think but I`m not sure its going to be a big seller, but as you say Andrew, if someone has some vintage amplifier or receiver this may well be the ticket. I personally would not have a streamer built into a turntable, but thats just me being a fussy old hifi queen :o) thought the review was extremely well balanced as always
Oh, just to add, if you replace that standard AT stylus with the Rega Carbon version it is a stunningly good upgrade, normally costs about twice the price of the generic AT stylus (£20.00 in the UK) but you will not regret it
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Nice turntable but would go with the Fluance over this. Streaming from a turntable is none use case for me. Kudos to those who could use it, but the options are all over. Sure I like the old Turntables, but it needs to be right. New turntables have a warranty and needs no worry. If you tinker like me, than you can buy what you like. $599.00 is spendy for most of my friends, but others maybe just right. I like this turntable, but not the I must have based on my music playback case. No room, don't need another collection. I am happy with Tape and Digital. Done.
i can't believe this can't stream TO airplay or the google equivalent (as an option). as a home user with a bunch of airplay capable gear, given this has wifi/ethernet and obviously a computer with a DAC inside of it - adding ability to stream output to something seems like a no brainer (control via the app) to me?
I think Yamaha have totally missed a niche there - customers who have a bunch of old or inherited vinyl that they want to play through their existing modern setup. in terms of cost to add via software.... probably minimal and possible via a firmware update.
what's more... looking around, haven't been able to find a generic line-in -> airplay device other than using a Mac or PC yet either. Which seems overkill....
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I wouldn't by a streaming turntable. Its bastardization of the delivery source. It's like using ocean water from New York's Gawanas canal (which btw, is deadly toxic) as dipping sauce! Politely disgusting, "..dirtier than a hotel mattress." Love the analogy and visual!
Agreed, blasphemous
I don't know why you compare this to the Alva which is 2 or 3x the price. Of course it's going to be on another level.
I'm not convinced that those of us with vintage amps or receivers are desperately short of inputs, Andrew. They all have a tape I/O at a bare minimum, often two, and anything above entry-level has an aux in. Amps also have a tuner input which, if you're streaming, is redundant and can be repurposed. A streaming turntable seems to me to be a mismatch.
As for modern vs. vintage turntables, the wow & flutter figures tell a story. At 0.2%, this Yamaha can't hold a candle to their old P-220's score of 0.04%. Even my humble little Panasonic SL-H350 delivers 0.045%. Today's motors are, as we say in the UK, pants!
Nice review, but is it just me, or is a turntable review usually 90-95% a review of the cartridge?
A lot if, yes. Besides build quality, the cartridge and the inclusion of a pre-amp most heavily influence any turntable. This one is unique since it has features that goes well beyond any typical turntable.
Thanks for tuning in!
Yup, yup, that's what they did all right....
Just a warning because it’s not clearly stated anywhere: this turntable cannot stream to Airplay speakers. It only has support for Airplay in for some reason. Really missed the mark here!
I saw your Taylor Swift lover record..... nice choice 😂
Nice catch. Thank you! It's actually a pretty good album.
Andrew Robinson agreed! Love your videos by the way, keep up the good work!
Hahaha I was wondering if anyone else caught that! And yes, good album indeed.
My spins too fast, a song by the end be finished 2seconds faster
My only problem with turn tables is, never liked them and when they were the only show, there were no choices for me: don't like 'em; never did and am ecstatic with CDs, streams, server streaming amps, internet compatible amps, preamps, Sirius, Pandora, etc. ...
If I still had my turntable, I'd send it to you but you can't have it 'cause I burned it when I bought two SONY 300 disc interconnected CD players, a Marantz amp, and 4 JBL Studios ... I was fat for about 7 years or so ... now am using streams and a server DAC ... Marantz and two JBLs (two were stolen - grrrrr)
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Okay, I'm sorry, but if even a turntable gets it's own app, it's very disappointing.
What a gimmick.
A lot of features included you'll use once or twice when the turntable is still new... then forget about it.
Yep.
So a couple of weeks back I stumbled across your channel and since then, based on your recommendations, I've jumped on board the 'budget vinyl revolution' and bought this turntable and the Yamaha RX-V4A (I did say 'budget!) :-)
I haven't set these up yet, but am I ok to stick with the supplied cartridge, or will the Ortofon 2M Red you suggest make a real difference? (or is there a similarly-priced option that is a better choice?).
I'm really enjoying going through your back-catalogue of videos and I'm picking up a lot of really helpful information, so thanks!
I do really appreciate the fact you speak plainly and don't talk-down to non-audiophiles. :-)
All the best.
I would recommend that you test out the supplied cartridge before spending more money. An upgraded cartridge will make a difference but if you are happy with the sound "as-is", then I see no reason to change right away. Enjoy the ride!