It's Giving...GAY! | Dailyrapupcrew Podcast Ep 35
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- On today’s episode we discuss,
0:00:00 - intro
0:00:50 - ladies introduce themselves
0:02:07 - Do you owe it to your significant other to stay in shape?
0:03:42 - It’s your partners duty to make you feel secure!
0:04:58 - if I met you one way, I expect you to be able to maintain yourself
0:06:46 - Guys are visual!
0:07:09 - Women are sensitive about their weight
0:08:29 - A person that’s defensive will block everything out!
0:08:49 - Dating is a competitive sport!
0:09:42 - If you have a type than your shallow!
0:11:22 - Women look at men for security and finances
0:12:52 - Do you owe a man that’s taking care of you to stay in shape?
0:18:06 - why is the blame always on men when a woman can’t get wet during sex?
0:18:46 - If a man can’t get hard it’s his fault and if a woman can’t get wet it’s also his fault
0:19:11 - If a man can’t get hard, he’s gay!
0:19:57 - If you’re doing everything as a woman and he still not getting aroused, it’s very much giving GAY!
0:20:37 - Its very much giving he’s GAY!
0:21:16 - It’s still giving he’s GAY or something is wrong with him
0:21:41 - No matter what a man is going to get hard even if his grandma just pasted!
0:22:08 - sex has a lot to do with mental!
0:23:57 - Reasons why a woman might not get wet
0:24:36 - Even with the 13 reasons why it’s still a man’s fault!
0:25:30 - Jew gives an example of why he didn’t get hard before
0:26:38 - It’s either we’re not doing enough physical to satisfy you or your gay!
0:27:15 - Some women’s walls been ran though!
0:29:09 - Communicating during sex
0:31:26 - Most guys are ready to go we’re not trying to waste 20 to 40 minutes on foreplay!
0:31:56 - just cause she’s wet doesn’t mean she’s ready
0:33:20 - Why would I spend 20 minutes forepaying with a woman when some women come ready?
0:35:00 - Why do women always attack a man’s sexuality when they disagree with him?
0:35:56 - She’s used to think if you want your butt licked your GAY
0:37:02 - If you want to hang out with the fellas its giving gay!
0:37:27 - She agrees!
0:39:57 - Women know that calling a man GAY is a trigger word!
0:40:42 - Are you putting your personal business on social media??
0:41:41 - I go Live on social media to vent
0:42:35 - Jew Keeps it real “you saying it on social media ain't going to ever help your Argument!
0:44:15 - One woman cannot change a man (Dababy situation)
0:48:48 - I had sex with my male best friend’s girl without him!
0:49:48 - Guy bestie loyalty test!
0:52:14 - Should a man/woman be performing married duties prior to getting married?
0:52:54 - Everything should be 50/50!
0:53:45 - Is there anything you wouldn’t do in a relationship?
0:54:29 - I’m not letting you 🥜 in my mouth!
0:56:08 - if you tell me you’re not eating pu**y its clip!
0:59:48 - You should be doing marriage duties in a relationship
1:03:14 - Men have to always show that your husband material wild women can selectively show that the wifey material
1:06:19 - outro
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Half way through the video..you guys need to make the women keep their phones in their pockets. It’s disrespectful to the platform. Clearly not listening or being engaged.
Bring in some older females to have this convo again(especially on the topic of being wet/hard)- these young ladies are too young and tutoring is very much needed - older women with experience and have grown up through the process would definitely respond differently...
Great topic tho!! And the conversation needs to be had
Don't have them back, they deflected and continuously used shaming language.
@@tarharqataseti9261 3 years from now...these women will be single like a Beyonce' 12" inch single with 4 different versions...let that sink in!!!
@@totalmrmeanor7586 🤔😅😉
I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like 🙃
It’s true that women are feeling, men are logic. That’s where there should be a balance 😊
@Jay Monae: Uncensored they both kept saying it
This statement is the dumbest shit ever! Especially, when they say it EVERY time that they open their mouths.
@@jetthrodavis6169 I just can't stand it ...its like the beginning of every damn sentence
MEEEEEERRRRRRRRRCH MERCH MERCH MEEEEEERCH
Omg the GIRL in the middle LISTEN for once 😂😂😂 we don’t care what “it gave”
Exactly 💗💗💗
😂😂😂 no cap
Wtf is "it was givin'"? It took me a minute to realize she wanted to feel special with that bs.
It's giving, it gave, it's not giving, period THAT SHIT makes our head hurt 🤕
That one in the middle it pretty much gave “do you know words?”…..😂😂😂😂
As a Bronx guy, I love NYC whole heartedly. But I swear NYC woman are harder than the ground they walk on 😅😅
Same here BX STAND UP
Come to the SOUTH LOL
It's all a front, they're usually hurt and damaged. BX 241st yeeerrrr
Brooklyn
On god lol..
Shorty in the middle said “it’s giving” more times than I could count
She seems very Young minded
This is what happens when you get your personality from Tik Tok
It’s giving me a headache
@@blackandarmedfamily4905 lol 😂
@@TorressvsTyler 🤣🤣
Boy I thought Detroit had it bad New York yall got it bad bro ✊🏿 I'm sending strength your way
the worst
They in hell and they don't even know it
I’m from Philly we up there bro 🤦🏿♂️
@@kennylafortune63 New York, Chicago, Detroit and Philly sound like the worse of the worse. I'm in London, it's mixed but the women are 250lb and hairy
@@kennylafortune63 "I feel like..." repeatedly sounds like I'm watching an episode of the Jetsons where Jet Screamer asked George to play the drums on Epp Opp Ork Ahh Ahh and George said, "I feel, I feel I feel..." These modern women wants traditional men to talk to them as "women"...TALK TO ME NIIIIICCCEEE...nope!
1 thing I’ve realized growing up, women are more selfish than kids😂like they neva grow out of it
Lmao facts
Never, just ghosted a chick because of this
They are children. Point blank. The majority of modern women behave and conduct themselves like children until they run smack into the wall and their looks have faded. It's only then that their ears begin to work and they gain access to their frontal lobes. This when they start having all these epiphanies and saying they wish someone would have explained things when they were younger cuz they hate the outcomes of a lifetime of bad decision making🙄. But when they was younger they acted and thought just like these chicks on this panel
“It’s giving”
“It’s very much giving”
“It gives”
“It gave”
Girl in the middle def switches up how she talks with every social media wave 😂😂
I’m glad I’m not the only one that caught that vibe…
Definitely was “giving” annoying af
Facts
2022 articulation is sexy.
Shes easy to read lol odee
If I got a dollar for each time I heard “it’s giving…. It didn’t give….” In this podcast, Elon musk wouldn’t have nothing on me
How many time she gonna say “it’s giving”. Literally every sentence
Bro I wanted to cut it off so bad cause “its giving” me a headache
@@killer29209 lmaooooo
@@killer29209 100% makes you wanna shut it off
@@killer29209 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 like shit yung
That bihhh super annoying I think she popped a pill
“I don’t owe anyone anything” - Most Women
“Men need to provide for a woman” - Most Women
🤦🏽♂️🙄😆
Most*
@@bangbangboogy1771 I stand corrected👍🏽
these are female statements you have to work and be in order to truly earn the title woman.
Why does that sound like double standards?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
What I’ve learned from this podcast is all women use the “you should know me/your partner” when they don’t have an actual answer.
But those be the same women that ask social media what to get their man for their birthday or holiday….
You should know, you should know, you should know. Smh lol
No. They are saying the answer is different for different women. The answer may even be different for the same woman depending on her different partners.
I’ve learned that men generalize women on this podcast way too much. Every episode the women tell them “no that’s not all women it depends on the woman”. And they just ignore it.
@@beach_boy1141 You a goof. Stay away from content like this you’re obviously blue pill.
@@Tj-es4fi nah you sound blue pill….I’m telling u women are different and women are different for different niggas but u too blue pill to hear it. The women are even telling niggas that their answer is based off emotion so that’s why they can’t answer because the answer maybe different tomorrow based on a different person. But u niggas too blue pill to listen. STOP ASKING WOMEN THESE TYPES OF Questions BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW.
Watching men talk to women makes me realize that if women get asked a question they then ask themselves "what is the question I want to answer?" Rather than answering the question
Real talk wonderful comment wonderful point
These NY chicks are the strongest men that I know
Lmao a bunch of Pam's
😂😂
😂😂😂😂 I promise u it's them Bronx and Brooklyn chicks lol
@@fread51 dont say pam like its an insult. you must be really lost in the sauce.
@@racksuprunway1979 I don't know about you but I don't like women who act like dudes
Sunglass girl: "if you only date one type of women, that ain't right! you need to see the beauty in ALL women"
Also Sunglass girl: "My man needs to be tall, ripped, super-rich with a swinging D or I ain't even talking to them"
She Garbo
Also sunglass girl :
🐸🤣
Delusional man
big yikes yo…
She ain’t even cute to be asking for all that 🤣
I hate when women say "I feel" when you giving them facts. Accountability is a woman kryptonite - Kevin Samuels
Lol small mf world 😂
No doubt
When someone starts a sentence by saying “ I feel “
I know that what they say next is probably going to be exaggerated or subject to error
I feel you lol but know…most feminine women tend to be more emotional. So that’s most of them that speak like that. It’s not logical but aye…that’s just what it is. So if you hate that…there is only one other option my guy…lol
Women are fueled by their emotions. They tend to react with feelings first, so when hit with logic and fact, they are going to naturally refute what you said with how they felt about what you said because feelings rule their world.
You didn't have to actually cheat, but if she feels like you did, that's a problem.
“It’s giving…it’s very much giving…it never gave”…ugh…shut up.🤦🏽♀️
I'm at work with the ear buds listening to this. A year late and I feel like this exactly. She sound so ignorant. She need some new filler words
Y'all completely maxed out the "I feel like..." 🎃
Guiness book of world records 😖😴
We have to do something about our community and it's ongoing issues with logic and literacy. This is indecipherable. An adult with the inability to formulate a well thought out response *is giving stupid*
Agreed!
At least we talking now
@@MrMoraltv talking in circles isn't really talking. It's just talking to talk.
YES! it is embarrassing.
My sentiments exactly.. these issues can't even be dissected properly bc people don't even know the definitions of terms and constructs they swear are an issue. Also, many people don't understand biology, psychology, spirituality, exchanges of energy, family dynamics, trauma, ROOT CAUSES etc.. All of which tie into these issues.. It's so draining
its crazy how women always have no problem telling men what they won't do but can never say what they will yet they want men to remain loyal and faithful to a person who won't do literally anything specially for you. everything is "its about me me me"
1st that a female not a woman, and 2 why in the world a man not a male would be with a female who is only concerned with herself?
Nyc has the most confident most heartbroken ran threw women in the world
They not even confident their confidence hangs on attention
Atlanta too
Love the interview 👏🏾👏🏾💯💯 🔥 🔥. There was some cappin🧢 lol 😂, especially from the finesser in the middle with the shades.
6am working early getting stuff done. Glad to see you guys posting this early too. Let’s get it
Indeed up early on this grind as well salute
I'm getting into this early morning thing aswell. Bless up to all of you guys 🔥
@@DragonFellowship respect 🙏
Yet another example of the modern woman displaying the inability to listen, not wanting to accept accountability and wanting everything but not wanting to give anything.
Never wife up those women.
Leave them alone.
They're gonna end up alone.
Take a shot every time she says it never gave.
bro do you want us to die?! lmao
Took out a whole gallon of crown fucking with her 😂😂
Yeah might as well swim in a pool of vodka if that's the case.
Just more proof that when black women are dating black men, they offer bare minimum, if anything at all. Y'all heard the lady "we don't owe anybody anything, if anything you owe it to yourself". But these same women will have ridiculous standards for the men that pursue them and this is why they are grossly overlooked.
FACTS!!
it’s why if she’s ever, swirled in the past i want nothing to do with her…them be the types to date out an give their all to them other races but be giving us the sassy bad attitude etc..
No one owes anyone anything is her point. It all comes down to if she “wants” to do it or if she “will” do it for you. It’s the same for men. I technically don’t owe a woman anything.
That’s a fact
If you dont owe your spouse anything, dont get married
Women do not want stipulations put on them for NOTHING. The very beginning conversation proves this. I get doing for yourself, but most women want a guy who’s of a certain physical stature and avoid the ones who don’t fit that look. They don’t feel like you should say anything to them about it. Just let them do what they want and accept it is what I heard.
Watching as I’m getting ready to teach my kids on this Friday! Great discussion!
NYC girls are truly battle rappers
My husband and I had TWO kids together. I had the second by surgery so he definitely understands but I definitely feel that I owe it to him to get back in shape instead of getting complacent. There’s literally no excuse if it’s not a medical condition.
I just wish the women would stop talking over the men and each other 🤦🏽♀️ literally can’t understand anything the women are saying !! Come on now.
I agree. The last couple of podcasts, the women are always talking over the men, instead of listening-they just waiting to respond.
Totally agree. It makes it a hard listen. They have to at one point get control of that.
If its weight from having the kids then most men would be cool with that
Fellas, if you're in a relationship and you plan to have sex at any point of the day start EARLY. Yall wake up, give compliments and flirt. Yall go off to work send flirty texts. It's like putting a roast in a croc pot.
By the time you get home and yall eat and the kids are gone to bed... shit will be little caeser pizza hot and ready. Lmao it works every time
Lol you clearly ain't married 🤣🤣🤣
@@goldrays4862 oh but I am with 3 kids. Speaking from experience it's either spontaneous bc the kids went to sleep early but im mostly working on it the entire day bc we have most the day away from each other.
@@goldrays4862 only a married man would discuss this topic in this manner. Single guys don’t plan or even talk like this. #PayAttention
Great advice 👍
Need so much more information.
Are you Black
Is your wife Black
I'm just going to assume you have a government jobs
How long you been married
Saw you guys on Flawdzilla podcast, and I've watched a hand ful of your vids. Love the content! Keep doing you!
As far as the weight thing goes it’s a matter of health too, if I see my lady looking unhealthy I’m gonna say something.
As you should. No funny shit, I was big as hell at one point (me and an ex of mine gain a lot of “love weight”) and to be honest, not only were there insecurities between us, but the sex was MAD uncomfortable. I get it, two bigger people can love each other but I vowed after experience that I’ll never get that comfortable again. A lot of times people get comfortable with their circumstances once they find “the one”
And that's the reason why I talked to women who were athletes even after they're done with their sport they still want to stay in shape because it's a discipline thing
Neither 1 of the females R adult enough, they deflected through out the entire convo, get em out of here
Made my head hurt listening to them.
@@TSwin abso-GD-loot-ly. Listening 2 sum wmn talk I rather hit my head against the damn wall
Facts
All I hear is "I feel like", reality is, both partners should strive to being healthy. Unless you have a medical condition. There isn't many excuses not to try! Attraction on both sides is essential.
Wait so you don’t hear “it’s giving”? Maybe I’m hearing shit
@@solessmusic285 lmao, i dont know what i heard. These chicks said nothing the entire time
These men are telling her the reason a man won't get up and she's saying he's wrong and its 95% physical- even tho the female would drop her clothes and it's not what he taught 🤦🏽♀️
Why can't what the men say is what it is
she takes off her shirt and he wig comes off too! LOL
Females talking over each other: 🦃🦃🦃🦃🗣🗣
Me trying to listen: 🤔…..huh?!
These were the pits
😂😂😩
they need to moderate the podcast better.
😂😂😂
Typical Gen Z nyc females. lol
I heard "i feel like" a good 20 times five minutes into the podcast
EVERY TIME this show come on I think I’m bout to watch a SAY CHEESE interview lol y’all got the same damn intro!! 😂😂
Turkey = Thanksgiving bird
Shawty = "It's giving" bird
😂😂😂😂😂
What’s wrong with doing something(like staying in shape or making sure you’re visually appealing) for your man? Thats a woman’s main asset, men are very visual. If a man started slacking financially women gone trip.
They really be killing me with this don’t do it for him, do it for yourself bs. If yourself was enough motivation you would have been did it
Facts. Women hate saying "I do this for my man etc to keep him happy". If he has to keep you happy, then you have to keep him happy as well. A relationship is not a one-sided, it's an equivalent exchange.
Good point
Right
Lol Ace be killin em wit the intros 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Another great episode. I just wanted to say this as I’ve been following your podcast for a while and this is just my 2 cents from a brother from across the pond. The guests you have on seem to constantly talk over you guys and cut you off in order to get their piece of their chest. This gets very annoying because you come with good points and they just cut you off. I’m not saying you should turn to Kevin Samuels😂 but you should certainly become more assertive with these women and let them know not overtalk a host. You guys are doing great and I watch every episode. Keep it up chaps💯🎯
I'm loving what y'all are doing with this podcast. I like how y'all pull back the pressure to keep the conversation going. Y'all really could be crushing every group because feelings take over logic A LOT. I have a question for y'all to present. Women often say "I'm willing to let a man lead." I even had a male friend say his girl won't "let him lead." My question is when a man is a good leader is it really a choice or does the submission come naturally due to his assertiveness? I'm a therapist by trade and I often find that women who try to "let a man lead" have no success because he doesn't deliver leadership that she feels. Keep up the good work gentlemen. I'll stay tuned in. Peace.
A man’s leadership is not based on what a woman wants. A man’s leadership is based on his own program. His leadership is based on what he thinks is their or the family best interest.
@@BjtheLawyer_ I completely agree with this statement. Feminism even has some men thinking they need to be allowed to lead. I say you lead and the one's who follow are for you. Cut off those who don't.
I've dated one woman that let me lead and some that weren't willing to let me lead. Women that aren't used to being led may actively resist about letting others lead. I've had to go further out of my way to make it happen in the resistant cases, and trying to beat her to the punch feels like I'm competing with her for my role; it's unnecessarily exhausting. While I agree that your skill as a leader is based on you, someone's willingness to be led is also based on themselves.
@@typhlosionisbest Resistance to your leadership means that individual doesn't see you as a leader. Your only real choice is to step aside and let her find someone she does see as a leader.
@@antoinejacksonadj not necessarily, most bw for generations now have never been around male leadership. So, they don’t know what it looks like.
I counted… she said “it is giving” or “it gave” 142 times in a one hour time span
Really ?
Lo❤your channel great content love the satire humour at times shout out from uk
I’m 15mins in and I feel like they trying to Jedi mind trick these questions
Totally dishonest, typical of these types
Girl in the middle would definitely put personal business on social media
I wasn't satisfied with their non-answer to the "selectively feminine" topic. 😭
Only real answers they gave was the hard dick topic
Shorty on the left giving me bird lady on home alone vibes 😂
Great discussion
You should be healthier after the relationship starts than at th beginning. Not for just attraction but longevity of the relationship. Healthy people live longer and happier.
This episode need to be called “The Given”
43:43
“ Dumb itches…. That’s giving dumb itches “ 😂😂😂😂 She literally called a her a dumb itch in the middle of her story 😂
thanks for the timestamps
The talking over each other is insane…
The introductions…🤣
How the lies got longer and longer.
Vanity and self absorbtion.
Y’all have to stop talking over each other. 🥰
1:05:58 “It’s giving” I can only stay on top for two minutes before my knees start to hurt. 😂😂
First off give these women a round of applause. Great show and conversation.
Nah…these girl dudes too masculine
Shorty in the middle irritated me the whole show wit that “it’s giving” shit
The guy in the middle inspires me to smile more lol. Thanks bruh
that’s wonderful. i love seeing men smile.
It’s giving….shut up!!😂 take a shot everytime she said “it’s giving” or it “it gave”
this is my favorite episode, LOL ever!
NY chicks sound like they ate 10 Newport’s for breakfast.
20:37 The SIGN language is strong. Why you gotta shame a man and call him gay if he don't get hard? If he's having a lot of sex, it isn't the same thing for him as it is for a dude who doesn't have a lot. The dude who may not have a lot may anticipate it more.
It could be physical, mental, or maybe he just isn't into you like that. Maybe she's a bad kisser, maybe she gives terrible hj's, maybe her head game is trash, maybe her box stinks, maybe her house is dirty.
There's a lot of factors that go into it, it's not just, "I did all I could do he must be gay."
Bob in the middle is a Kii 😂😂😂
Good video
First question is reversible with what women want for a man to improve-financial stuff/goals.
Man wants a woman that looks good.
Women want a man with a good looking lifestyle.
They both want improvements!
Every episode I notice and maybe it's just the fact it's yall podcast but when yall talk it's usually one at a time but when the women talk it's constantly over one another like Jesus after the first or second time youd think they learn to wait till one of them finishes.
I like ya show a lot but my only gripe is that when everyone is talking it’s hard to understand the convo at times. But great job guys keep it up my brothers!!
We definitely trynna fix that for everybody we appreciate you watching us
These jawns be funny y’all gotta really bring some these women back for a second time lol
My wife blamed me for allowing her to gain weight. I'm truly under the belief that if u really love someone, the looks should become less important. But I also know that if it was brought up, she would've taken it the wrong way. She has since really taken control of her weight loss journey. She doesn't owe me anything, but I know she is definitely proving something to herself and has gained tons in self love
Sounds like you are about to get cheated on sorry bro.
The one in the middle gave me a headache. Blood runs down to the meat. And its a muscle. 10 mins of foreplay is gonna lead to an early dismissal. If the connection is relationship worthy there needs to be an oral exchange within that 10 lol
This was fing hilarious 😆
Damn tune squad fine as hell 😍
You owe it to your partner especially if they mention it to you. If you don't change it leaves the doors open for someone else. I don't accept my partner not being willing to make themselves healthy. I am shallow because I have standards and I'll maintain that. I want you around for a long time. If it's not health reasons for being too big then you are just lazy. Again, if the partner(husband, wife,, fiancee or fiance') mentions it, you owe it.
These girls ooze street walker stench. All this partner talk if I pay for everything we ain't partners you work for me. So do what Is required of you or get replaced.
Thank you for saying this. I wish more men lived by this creed and more women see this comment.
yup i’m definitely getting a “no walls” vibe from them
35:32 ...."We give no fux about dat 😐" PRICELESS!!!😆😅🤣😂
That girl in middle is super shallow and doesn’t make sense with majority of topics
Girl in the middle talks the most but knows the least...
But she look good tho so there’s that
@@ulquiorra3104 she's average at best...
Crazy how many times those two things correlate.
Cali in the Building, Y’all need to get some Cali Wmen on there💯💯💯🍻
My Lord if I never hear, “it gave” again in life it will be too soon. Good episode tho
If i hear "its giving" one more time...
We all under 30 right now so if she require you to have 7 figures right now that’s crazy lol but we all should be working towards our best self in this stage in our lives . To me it’s all about growing with someone and putting your resources together to build the best life together feel me
They be talking over each other for mad long 🤣 😒 😂
The one in the middle needs a podcast called "IT'S GIVING" cus she says that be saying just about everything 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Its like every girl group yall bring out loves not to let other people talk..like it aint just u boo
Yeah....It's tough to get through these vids! I be lookin like yo guys control your set!! I wonder if they discuss show etiquette before it starts. Its mad weird and disrespectful!!
They do but it ain't workin lol
Because women don't like to listen everyone tells them that they're always right so what would you do
PS: if y’all out here not getting foreplay y’all just a jump-off👀🤷🏽♂️
I fw with this show heavy 😂🤙🏽 yall bulls blowing up fa sho
Thank you somebody said it!!! It’s also “mental”
Smh.... Just goes to show that women want us to learn them but they don't have a clue about us and how we function.
They don't even know how their own body works
They dont even km=now themselves
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE MISSED THIS: At 21:03 The modern black woman: It’s about us, it’s not about ya’ll. The topic was relative to pleasing a black man sexually.
That is why they say their orgasm matters more than a man nut.
I peeped that too.
"We don't already know, that's why you need to tell us" for the ones who say "you already know..."
After Ace found out where ol girl live, he started smiling at her like yeah I can't wait to do that to you too😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂damn Ace
@8:45 They are basically saying that their partner should walk on egg shells around them. A Person should know their partner sure.... But their partner should be able to openly communicate with them without fear of reprisal, otherwise it's just living/being in a hostile environment where their partner has to be a psychic.
Man y’all sure know how to pick these guests I trust everything these women were saying just as much as I trust our justice system 😂 deep down inside I feel like they know they ain’t ish
At the 32:00 😂 she definitely didn’t understand the question
S.I.G.N(need to be right)
“ It’s giving its giving its giving its giving its giving “ she be in IG comments heavy lmao
You owe it to yourself to stay in shape. If you're only doing things for others, then you will lose the drive once these people are gone.