190 More Watts!! GoPower Solar Expansion Install
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- We already had one 190 watt GoPower solar panel on our 2020 Lance 1985 RV but we wanted to add a 2nd panel and double the potential watts. The GoPower system allows you to have up to 3 panels on the GoPower solar controller that we have. In this video, my brother in-law Darrin and I install an additional panel on the roof of the RV.
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I came across this video today. I like the way you get your info across.
I have an Adventurer 910DB slide in truck camper that came with a 100w GP panel and 2 lead acid batteries. After 2 nights in 20 degree weather running the heater, we woke up the third morning to an absolutely freezing camper. Time for change.
Took the single 100w panel off the roof and installed 3 GP 190w panels. Upgraded to two BB lithium batteries and we were good to go (with the battery box vents sealed and the camper heat running the box only got down to 42degrees while it was 16f outside). All this ran through the GP control panel and WPM controller.
Zfffpptt… converter died. Instead of a direct replacement I further upgraded the system. Still the 3 GP 190w panels, cut the plastic battery box out and that gave a ton of room for my new Victron mppt charge controller, battery monitor shunt, Victron Lynx Distribution and appropriate busbars. Then I was able to put three LiTime mini 100ah batteries in there with room for a fourth if I want to later. A 3000w Victron Multiplus II was installed in another space within 4’ of the battery box.
All ran perfectly for two weeks offgrid in Washington last month, even put out power through two days of foggy drizzle. Coffee in the morning with no generator noise.
Have one 190 watt GoPower and will be installing a second tomorrow. Thanks for the helpful video.
As usual a really good video. I appreciate how thorough you are without boring and unnecessary detail. It’s nice to have a cooperative and skilled brother-in-law.
Thank you! Yes...Darrin is the best! He's always willing to help me tackle projects.
We have a 2014 Forest River Flagstaff travel trailer with 1200 watts of solar from Renogy and 5 100 ah Battle Born batteries. We have had no problem with them and usually end up with 90-95 percent power at bedtime. We might have gone overboard on power and capacity but it works for us.
Watched your video on Easy Start ac install. Followed your instructions and both ac units work great. THANX.
Patrick, I do have solar system on my small 2019 Geo Pro 12SRK RV. There is a 100 watt panel on the roof, installed at factory and I purchased a suitcase 90 watt system that plugs directly into my trailer that supplies 2 Lead acid deep cycle batteries. So between the 2 batteries I have 170 AH. The 2 solar panels give me 190 watts total and they are both GoPower systems. I don't have an air conditioner, just a Max-fan in the roof as I live in northern Canada, Alberta and during the night, heat is the more important concern. The trailer, as small as it is, has a 20k BTU furnace, way over kill but I'll take it, lol. I have had the trailer going into my 3rd summer and have had no issues with the GoPower system. Thanks for the video and stay safe.
That sounds like a great setup for your trailer and especially since you are not trying to run AC.
Great install - thanks 👍
Thank you!
We have the same Gopower system. We just added two additional 190W GoPower Panels. I really like how they are made.
I have been very happy with ours and we may eventually add the 3rd panel. I like how they make it easy to upgrade.
Always enjoy your videos, I just put my deposit on a 2022 Lance 1985, it came with with two 190 Watts solar , lithium and 1500 inverter plus the truma water heater.
Congratulations on the the new trailer. We really like having the solar and inverter on ours.
@@TravelswithDelaney Sir what size of max air covers fit the 1985? Ours come with three fans one fantastic and two little ones i will up grade those later. they seemed to be all 14 inches.
Great video good useful information Still waiting our 2021 Lance 1995 July 20 delivery date (hoping)
We have 2 - 190 watt solar panels manufacture installed but following your suggestions thank you We will stay tuned for further updates Thank you!!!!
Just bought an expansion kit to add to our two 190W panels. We have 6 volt battery in series for a 12volt output with 350 amps of stored power we also have a 3000 watt inverter to use with our fridge and microwave. We plan on boondocking for 6 months next winter.
Good video. If we boondocked I think Solar would be a must. Thanks for sharing.
Solar and lithium is really something that is only needed if you are doing multiple nights off the grid. For many RV owners, it really isn't necessary.
thanks for the video!
Thank you!
Great video! 😀👍
Thank you very much!
Patrick great video and glad you had your brother-in -law help you. Can’t wait until you test it out when you go camping. If you didn’t already. Tell Patty hello. Can’t wait until you go live again it was so fun the last time with the Brady Bunch meets Hollywood Squares. I loved it. Thank you Abdul. Patrick. Have a great day at work and see you and Patty soon!
I meant have a great day at work tomorrow and all.
We used it on our trip to Alabama and works great! Batteries were always full. It was a good decision to add it.
I have the Go Power with 190w panel that was part of a solar package from Rockwood on 2021 which includes 1000w Inverter and 11CF 12V refrigerator.
1 plan to add another panel and change from AGM to Lithium batteries (have 200AH).
Put some bricks or similar on top of your cables and apply dicor in several places to hold down your wires.
No holes for hold down. Don’t forget to remove the bricks after it dries.
Good video. Never have to much solar. I bbn have 3 / 100 watts of renogy panels oh, and 1 200w of Rich solar. 500w with 3 lionengery ut1200. Thanks Don
I keep watching solar panel installs so I might get the courage to put holes in my roof L)
Bawaaaaahhhh me too! 😆
@@suave3330 got the jitters myself with my Forest River Rockwood fifth wheel ultralite 2442 BSW. Been on the roof once seem quite sturdy waking on it 😆
Thank you for this video, I am looking to add to our travel trailer that already has GO Power panel. Just wondering what type of batteries you are using to store the power? Looked so easy to install thanks to your video.
I would like to get some solar for the RV, but it's a down the road thing. Thanks for sharing! Steve
It’s nice to have especially if you are going to do any off the grid camping.
My 2021 Jayco Jay feather came prepped for solar so I had a panel installed on my roof at time of purchase. I was told that it would keep my battery charged but I don't fully understand how this works?
I have not invested in a second battery or even considered switching over to lithium. My thoughts were to add another roof panel and a suitcase type for boondocking. Mr Delaney you are the most succinct conveyor of information with true empathy for the unknowing viewer. Help me understand the best route to take.
( I haven't even considered inverters yet but I am considering a generator...
Nice video. I have an Entegra Vision motorhome on order (unknown when I will get it), and it will be a 2022 model and it will come with a GoPower 190 watt panel like your trailer. I was thinking of also adding another panel so this video was helpful. Thank you.
Congratulations on the new Entegra!! That will be an awesome unit
We have the same solar setup on our T@B 400 as you had on Carl. It's worked for us so far, but we don't get out nearly enough to test it! Our best test so far was last fall at the Finger Lakes when we stayed at a no hookup state park. We easily made it through 4 days with minimal conservation and partly cloudy days. We probably could've gone a 5th day, but we were running out of gray and black tank space. I'm interested in hearing your Bluetti review...
That solar system we had on C@rl worked really well for us especially after we upgraded to the lithium batteries. Our AGM battery was failing which was causing a lot of the issues we were having with C@rl.
We bought our Lance with two solar panels and just upgraded the batteries to go power lithium batteries. We are excited to see how they do when we are in the Teton’s this summer with no hook ups.
You should have no problems. We boondocked in the Tetons last summer for 3 nights with no issues with just the 1 panel and had no issues.
we waiting our 1995 Please keep updated on your panels and boondocking
We have 400 watts of solar on our trailer, and 1 suitcase 100 watts. 3 lithium batteries....went camping this weekend....no problems, could run everything but a/c...also have a xantrex 3000 watt inverter. Did we tell you we like camping! 👍🏻🇺🇸 I agree with vinny mozzarella....bust out the turn tables... lol
That sounds like an awesome setup with 3 lithium’s and the 500 watts of solar!
We just had a custom build Taylor Coach built and it has GoPower Solar! We only have the 95watt, and lead acid battery. Newbie solarites😜🤣😘🇨🇦‼️
I’m looking to install an inverter or make a portable backup system, not sure which. Thanks for the videos
Patrick we love your channel. Your a valuable resource to the RV community. We are getting our new Tab 400 Boondock in two weeks. We saw your video on the tireminder I10. We want to get it but the repeater needs to be connected to the battery which is under the bed on the Tab 400. What is our option & did u use a TPMS when you had your Tab 400. Thanks again for your informative videos safe travels this summer.
How exciting….congratulations!!! You can actually tie the repeater into any 12v supply. I’m sure there’s a line somewhere near the front you could tie into or maybe the dealer could do it for you. I believe the new 400’s have a light by the step so that might be an easy one to use. We did not have a TPMS but looking back, we should have.
Thanks very much for the video on the solar panel install. We are also owners of a Lance RV and were wondering how to drill into the roof structure/framing rather than just the insulation. Do you have any tips you can share on how to make sure you drill in the right place? Thanks!
We were justing saying that Patrick has a DJ voice...lol.
Lou & Angie
LOL! I actually did some voiceovers years ago for both a couple of TV commercial and Radio commercials.
@@TravelswithDelaney it makes complete sense. Your voice is buttery.
Lou
Thanks for the video. I'm a Lance 2375 owner and am considering a second 190w panel on my roof. I keep going back and forth on installing it directly to the roof as you did or using the roof rack to avoid additional holes in the roof. Do you know what type of joists or cross members Lance uses in their roof systems? I want to make sure I can properly mount the panel to something other than block foam.
Looking into getting solar and watch the video to see how easy the hook up would be
I’m hoping it is fool proof. I kind of wish you could see him connecting everything up, but as you said, I think when you have the 2 to 1 adapter, you can’t mess up? Let’s hope so for my sake, lol
Hey Patrick. Great video as usual. I have the same set up and want to add a second panel. My question is. Did you pre-drill your holes before bolting the panel down. Thanks
We did not predrlll the holes. We just put down the butyl tape and then drilled directly into the roof. It worked fine that way on the Lance. Not sure if if might vary by trailer.
We have a Lance 2285 and added a 190 watt Go Power panel, just to keep the 2 group 27 AGMs charged. If we decide to add an inverter some day, then we’ll most likely add 2 more panels. Have a generator for the ac though.
The 190 worked really well for us last summer. Hoping the 380 will allow us a bit more flexibility in our daily usage.
@@TravelswithDelaney I may just go ahead and add that 2nd panel anyway. The more I think about it, it will help the charging when we're camping under the pine trees (shade). Appreciate all the helpful videos!
We have a 200 w Renogy suitcase solar panel.
We actually have a 100 watt Renogy suitcase panel as well although we don’t use it much.
I think your 19 Amps is reasonable. Given fixed mounted panels and a PWM controller, 10 amps per panel is about the best you're likely to see. I have a single panel factory installed with a newer version of the same PWM controller. I will be adding a second panel soon. I just wish Go Power didn't charge so much. I want to match the existing panel, otherwise I'd go with a 200 watt Renogy panel for less.
Excellent video. Do you know if you have to stick with the same brand? It seems Renogy are more reasonable and seem to have a good reputation? I’m thinking of buying the portable panel and when I park, plug it in, I can face it towards the sun, adjust the angle, etc. It may be a pain but going to try. If that doesn’t work out, will put on another panel.
We have 2 panels but haven’t Boondock Ed yet with this unit.
Great video, need some advice. Going out to yellowstone in July. I saw your video on camping at flat Rock and lower Teton. Do you have GPS locations for these locations? There are no reservations to be had else where. Any suggestion on how to best see sites at each park. Thank you.
Glenn
You can find it on Allstays. It’s on FR 30310 off 191.
I have one of these panels on my trailer and noticed only a few things in the trailer are powered. I'm wondering what is the benefit from adding a panel? Were you running your batteries low before adding this panel?
I’m getting ready to do the same install on my 1995. I’m assuming the roof frames are the same as yours. Did you hit metal on all 8 of your screws? Did you connect in parallel or in series? Self-leveling dicor? Thank you
Yes, I use Solar, Just got installed on my roof on my house, with Generac PwrCell Battery Wall, (3 -3kw Batteries for storage) and 19 Q-Cell Panels, 320W each.) Able to supply the excess power to FP&L and liking that so far. I like the off-grid videos, so cool. Good Video
I want to use solar and when I get the GD 17MKE, that I ordered. I order a solar kit for 300w solar panel. I am not sure the brand right now. But RV should be at the dealer with in the next 2 weeks. I can tell you that the dealer was pushing AGM batteries, but I went out got a Battle Born Lithium, plus aBlue Smart IP65 Charger 12/15 120V NEMA 5-15 and
The lithiums are so nice. You don't have to worry about damaging them like you do with AGM's since the have the built in BMS system plus they have a 10 year warranty.
Hi, Pat. not knowing anything about solar I had solar adapter put on the 400 at time of purchase. they have it hooked up to my 2- 6 amp batteries = 12 amp. they put in a Zamp hook up and I thought I was told only zamp could hook up to it . so I have one 45 watt solar and 140 watt zamp solar panels and they are heavy glass framed. have a 25 year warentee.
That sounds like a good setup for the 400. You can use other solar panels with the Zamp solar port....you just have to verify the positive and negative terminals are correct on the panel as Zamp wires their’s opposite of most others.
This is a pretty cool setup. We are still considering the Lance 2465 but trying to figure out how it would work best for us. Also looking at some mid bunk 5th wheels but really not sure. lol Great job on this install. I do like the GoPower stuff. They do a real good job. Question on your rig do all your outlets work on 12 volt or do you have to be on 110 for them to work? For your question at the end we have 1350 watts of solar. I had to beat what Russ had. lol
LOL!! Poor Russ! Yes...all of our 110 outlets are wired into the inverter. When Princess Craft installed the solar/inverter, they wired the entire trailer into it which is great. Just flip the switch for the inverter and all outlets work.
@@TravelswithDelaney Ok so from the factory it did not come that way correct? Princess Craft set you up? Sorry trying to learn as much as I can about Lance. You are my direct source. lol They are very hard to find to look at anywhere close by.
What screws did you use to fasten the z brackets to the roof? Many Thanks
We have 100 watt panel on our new Winnebago Hike H210RB.
What type of batteries do you have in the Hike?
Great video. I’m planning to add at least another solar panel. I had sent a question last year tgat never got a response so here we go again. I wonder if it matters what brand panel we use for an upgrade? Renogy is about 1/2 price of those panel
That is a question I do not know the answer to. We just used the same brand on our install. You may want to reach out to Renege to see what they say.
I have 220 AH lithium and two 190 panels. And I still want more. Lol.
I know....I am the same way....More Power! LOL
@@TravelswithDelaney now I need to upgrade to a 2000 or 2500 inverter to run the AC.
Hey Patrick I have the same trailer, ( prewired ) how did you locate were the charge controller goes above the stove to the right of the microwave ? Thanks 😊
Actually Princess Craft RV installed the charge controller and the first solar panel. I am not sure how they knew that is where it was wired for.
did you have luck finding the crossmembers in the roof? Some people have missed
We have the 190 watt Go Power panel with two BattleBorns on our new 1685. I'm still trying to figure out if our 120 watt Zamp suitcase panels are compatible with the Go Power "Solar on the Side" plug. Maybe we'll see you guys around New England this summer.
I believe Zamps are wired backward. I'd reach out to GoPower and see how their plugs are wired. You can always switch them to work with the Zamp.
@@TravelswithDelaney Thanks! I'll look into that.
Patrick,
I ordered a 1985 in late February and it will be here in "late May" (quit laughing) or June. I ordered it with the Factory installed system with two 190 panels and the two Lithium batteries, so I'm very interested to see what your experiences will be. I plan on boondocking quite a bit. See you out there.
Be well and stay safe,
bf
I have a 2075 with Lion 105 AH batteries and two 190 panels. Even when it's mildly overcast it fully charged the batteries by 3:00 in the afternoon. And my trailer is between two homes so only getting full sun for 6 hours. I ran the fridge on 12 volt overnight and by the next evening the batteries were fully charged. The most important part. If you have a battery monitor make sure it is set up correctly
@@boonelipsey5393
Thank you for the info. Sorry that I don't know if your name is Boone or Lipsey or if that is a UA-cam handle, but I really appreciate your info. I am going to be a brand new newbie, so I need all the help I can get, and that is why I follow LoLoHo and KYD because they are a great source of information. AND good people like you help too. Bonus!!
Be well and stay safe,
bf
We were really happy with the 1 panel so 2 panels should be that much better. And we have found they will still get some power even on cloudy days. Hopefully your trailer will get to you sooner rather than later so you have more time to enjoy it this summer.
Funny stuff, we have 560 amp hours of prismatic lithium iron 110 watts of solar on the roof and 800 watts on the ground. We can run our ac on the solar system. Can't make it over night.....need more amp hours
Great Video. Question 🙋♂️ R Slide out topper worth the Money. Yes they keep leaves 🍃 and tree branches off the top of the slide. But do you still have to get up there on the roof and clean 🧽 off the Debra anyway. Bird 🦅 💩 🍃 and tree branches .What is your input and this would make a great 👍 video.
We feel that they are absolutely worth the money. They help keep water off the slide roof preventing leaking issues. We bought a used trailer once that did not have a slide topper. We eventually found that water was leaking down from the slide roof and resulted in a portion of the slide floor being rotted.
You might have said this in an earlier video, but where did you install the 2000 watt inverter? Picture?
It's in the rear outdoor storage compartment where you access the water heater.
Multiply the amps and volts so you know how many watts! If you get 19 amps and I presume you have a 12V system, then you are getting 228 Watts.
We have a 1995 model with the single panel. Do you use solar just to keep your batteries charged, or do you have an inverter for 110V while boondocking? I only ask, because if your batteries were staying charged with just one panel, why add the second?
We have a 2000 watt inverter wired into the whole trailer so the 2nd panel will allow us to use that inverter more without worrying about the batteries.
So, have you added any more solar panels since this video?
No. We still have 2 but are considering adding a 3rd
I have Lance 2016 2295 with 1 solar panel (160 watt). I've been wanting to add a 2nd panel. At times the 1 panel is not capable of keeping the 2 batteries charged on a cloudy day.
I'll show my boyfriend your video maybe he can learn to install a 2nd one. Should I install a 160 or a 190? No sure if I would go with a 3rd panel. I would love to but would have to see the cost.
I enjoyed your video.
Is your 160 watt panel a GoPower Panel? I know the current kits are 190 watts. The more power the better. We have already noticed that the 2 panels is doing a better job of keeping the batteries fully topped off.
The panel that I already have is the 160 watt was install from the factory. Also the Go Power Monitor was install from the factory also .In 2016 the 190 watt panels was not available on the build sheet.
I forgot to mention I special ordered my camper
stud finder ??
Solar great. But does anybody want to hear Patrick with his MC voice when he was a DJ?
LOL! That seems like a totally different lifetime. We DJ’d a lot of wedding receptions for a few years.
Patrick, Any concerns that the A/C unit will cast a shadow on your solar panels?
Yes....I do think that can affect them but with such a small trailer, the space on the roof is pretty limited for options. The good news is now with one on each side of the AC, I feel like we can maximize the sun regardless of where it is in relationship to the AC unit
Not sure how GoPower justifies charging that much for a 190 watt panel. I just installed 4-100 watt Newpowa Panels and a Victron Solar Controller. I received a message a couple days ago from customer they have been getting over 500 watts in peak sun from those panels so surpassing their expectations. I got them those 4 panels for $320.00 with shipping.....
Nice!
Seems extremely expensive for what it is. Can't you just buy a $200 190 watt solar panel and connectors for much less?
You might be able to. I am happy with this brand and wanted to keep them both the same.
I wish you would have e come by. Would have installed a mppt victron. That i think you would really Love. There's a lot lagging with go power. But I get its place. And why lance choose this. And careful people need to understand the roof is Styrofoam. On my lance I could rip off the go power 190 panel factory installed with one hand. Lance is a great igloo cooler for temp but Carfull how anything is tried down. A lot of things on the lance is kind of glued down versus screwed down. Pull a couple screws you will get the picture
Yes....Victron is wonderful. We had it on our T@B 400. Princess Craft installed the GOPower because it’s what Lance prewired the trailer for. We may someday upgrade to Victron but its always a money issue with a lot of this stuff....we have to pace ourselves.
The wrong guy was doing the installing....🥸
It's outrageous what Go Power charges for their panels! Very good panels are typically selling for $1.00 per Watt.
Don’t know about other providers but I needed help with my GP system and I called GoPower 1-800 and the tech spent two hours helping me at no extra cost. And it turned out just a switch had not been turned on in the system. I’ll pay a little extra for that kind of service thank you very much.