The throne is a cold and lonely burden Or he's the descendant of Excellbum* King Marth who sent several dozen generic units, his mentor and his wife to...untimely deaths
I hope there are potential downsides for just simply recruiting all your enemies, like they do bad things, betray you, lower your approval, etc. It would also play into your ability to judge a person's character and talents, which is important for a leader.
Good alternative is forcing choices between units. "Pick this unit, you can't get that unit." And like, recruiting some enemies will bar you from getting a better unit somewhere down the line.
@@XellosNi Thats what I was kinda hoping would happen. Kinda like Dragon Age 1. I was half expecting someone to leave my crew when i spared the thief. Or hoping that later on there are consequences for my actions. Or if you dont get them you just lost access to any mage class.
I actually ended up losing out on Gammel and his archer friend once I got to Elheim because I didn't spare Gammel thinking there would be consequences for it. Kind of bitter in a way
I find it really interesting how varied the optional gains for denying/executing some characters are. Some give rewards that're arguably just as good as a whole ass character, some give marginally arguable rewards, some give stuff that'll be lesser in the longrun, and some just... give you nothing. looking forward to seeing how much this variation continues into the full game.
@@GloriousGEO It would be great if you could let us know any other benefits of recruiting a character. For example Auch can find Lapis Pendants in ruins. So it would be nice to know if we are missing out on anything like that by refusing to recruit.
It seems like there's no moral meter in this game. It's a shame. The Ogre Battle games had this and it directly affected who joins you. The ending was affected too.
I'm surprised Alain does not have a choice dialogue such as "Those who hath turned their cloaks hold no coin to bargain for mercy's breath." when asked to spare their men.
Two spots actually, if there's ruins he'll explore them and grab a lapis pendant at each one on the south part of cornia and one in the north near the church up there.
Even divine shards are a grindey but infinite resource from mining. Only strong argument for executions is if you’re doing a really min/maxed challenge or speed run, or a deliberate “execute everyone” run.
Mandrin is the only one I have executed because I was thinking that Angel would be angry and not join team anymore If I don't kill the man. Anyone did same?
Among these, Gammel is the only one I declined. I haven't met him again yet, but seeng as he's alive and I pardoned his buddy, maybe there's a second chance of him joining? Not too sure tho.
Is there actually any reason you shouldn't just recruit everyone you can? Like in the SNES Ogre Battle game, recruiting some characters will close the door on recruiting other characters that may have a grudge against the people you have in your army. Alternatively, killing some people would drops some powerful or unique items that might actually be more useful than having an extra character. Does Unicorn do anything similar to this?
@@GloriousGEO That's a bit of a shame. I've been doing a bit of research before buying, and it's quite a disappointment to learn there isn't any karma or alignment system, and that there is just one proper ending. Will probably still play it as it looks and feels stunningly beautiful... But man I was hoping for an modern update of the whole PR side of staging a rebellion...
Is there any actual benefit to doing this? Being lenient with everyone always works out in the end, so i never saw a reason to execute or refuse someone...
Im reminded of A Song of Ice and Fire "The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword." Guess its worth playing the game multiple times "Recruit everyone" "Mercs only" I wonder if mercs only might be slightly better due to choosing their growths
The only execution I would've done would probably be Gammel but Gammel and Mandrin joining you down the line is such a huge gain that it's tough to miss out on, particularly when you're trying to not use mercenaries.
@@GloriousGEO Gammel was the only one I turned down. I thought he'd go back to thieving no matter what I chose and I'd have to fight him again before truly recruiting him. I even let Mandrin go, but I was surprised I didn't get either of them after the Elheim encounter.
my first Execution/subjucating choice was Gammel and I loved the Idea of sparing people can lead to some future consequences and vise versa when you Execute them (Mordon with the bridge quest). I was ready to kill him in Elhiem when the story is scripted to just letting him go. at that point I Realized that there are no consequences of recruiting psycho paths or executing good people.
Canonically i cannot see Alain executing Mordon in any way. He may have been an enemy, but he was a standup guy and even the people of the town pleads for him to be spared because of this. Theres just no way He'd execute a Man like that, while just throwing a murderer in jail.
Monica and Mandrin giving a total of 45 divine stones make VERY compelling case to not get them. Specially Mandrin since he alone can get you Ochlys very early
Not really, in the early game the rewards you get from executing the black tallon members can somewhat help with your early game economy and makes one future side quest harder but long term it’s not worth it. The others are just straight up shooting yourself in the foot if you don’t recruit them. in fact not recruiting some characters locks you out of future side quests or recruiting other characters.
@@GloriousGEO Refusing these recruitment usually grant some item likes if that's not for nothing, so it's fine enough if you don't want to build those unit or in generic only run. Well unless if the item you get is also the the item that unit come with and also unless that unit name is Melisandre (choose to execute 2 units for nothing which does sound anti-climatic to me)
Monica, Mandrin, Tatiana, Gammel, Mordon, Berenice, and Auch. All worth killing/refusing. But that's just my opinion. If you like a character, uh, don't kill them. Sharon gives you a lucky coin if she joins you which is super helpful. The rest give no rewards at all.
Is Mordon going to town with a different village girl every night? And thats why one of Mordons soldiers say another one my lord? And why a village girl begs for his life in his stead?
The only one I've left out of the picture on my first playthrough was jeremy. Kind of came off as an irredeemable scumbag. Didn't feel bad about that at all. That and the thief at the start. Thought handing him over was only right.
@@GloriousGEOI just completed Elhiem including Mandrin's quest, but I did not recruit Mandrin. The bandits went off to find medicine. Did I do something wrong to miss Mandrin's recruitment?
did you forget jeremy? where is that guy from the desert place, hes like one of the three dudes I think genuinely deserved to be executed in this game lol
Is this really all of them or it's demo only ? Also does the story get better ? I just hope that Galerius is not the only main antagonist and that we will have some interesting plot twist.
Picked all execute on my play through to threaten the kings life in battle deserves a good old execution if you are not being completely mind controlled if you ask me and excuses make me sick so got to get it done XD
I do hope there is greater impact and dialogue for these choices. So far its just Alain coping and gaslighting himself everytime he decides to kill someone. Even in actual war without self-righteous princes becoming a pow was still a prevalent result of capture rather than execution.
@@GloriousGEO Well, at least it should affect the ending (I mean that's a RPG standard)since this is just the demo. Would be interesting if Alain can "convince" everyone into a neutral good ending.
Watch part 2 here ua-cam.com/video/Wi4dSfDuqxM/v-deo.html
0:00 Auch
0:54 Mordon
1:26 Berenice
2:28 Melisandre
3:36 Monica
5:04 Nina
6:19 Mandrin
6:52 Sharon
7:44 Gammel
9:28 Tatiana
Honestly not that many and mostly in Cornia...
“Heartless bastards” Gammel says, after he murdered and robbed innocents.
what a hero
The fact that you chose Alain's color palette to resemble Zenoiran troops is a great touch, really fits with him executing everyone 😂
Hehe, yup
how do you change his colors
@@akitauma2387 here ua-cam.com/video/9YhIZkbNtcQ/v-deo.htmlsi=jbBhJW9lXPMtw5kC
Its more fo a Excelblem reference, he started using Red Marth when killing everyone
As a unit, you are… replaceable
I was expecting Alain to be a generic good guy lord at first. I didn’t expect how ruthless he could be.
He's based.
@@GloriousGEOIt’s a nice change of pace.
The throne is a cold and lonely burden
Or he's the descendant of Excellbum* King Marth who sent several dozen generic units, his mentor and his wife to...untimely deaths
@@lordgod9958 You’re thinking of Excellemblem
@@paladinslash4721 both fit the bill, excellemblem more than mangs but the joke still stands lol
I like how the final one, where Alain is arguably the most moral, is the only one where he doesn't have the red colour pallet.
very fitting mhmm
As an enemy, you are. Replaceable
100%
Farewell.
@@freudia9123 *gunshot*
@@dokutahhanze5319 *Unlocks gaiden chapter.
Acquired 🏆Honors x3
"sir! the enemy general is alive and willing to join our cause"
welp. death it is.
kek
I found it. The Unicorn Overlord Excelblem Timeline.
Iconic lol he is the only UA-camr who could make this game have permanent death
Man I had not refused Melisandre before. That was DARK, damn.
no rewards, too. Feels bad
How are yall playing the game
@@curupa66There's a free demo out
Interestingly, you DO get a reward of 30 Honors if you try to recruit her but fail (because you didn't use Alain in the battle).
“Rest in pieces bozo.” -red Alain
100%
I hope there are potential downsides for just simply recruiting all your enemies, like they do bad things, betray you, lower your approval, etc. It would also play into your ability to judge a person's character and talents, which is important for a leader.
That would be really cool. Sadly, the full-game does not have this.
Good alternative is forcing choices between units. "Pick this unit, you can't get that unit." And like, recruiting some enemies will bar you from getting a better unit somewhere down the line.
@@XellosNi Thats what I was kinda hoping would happen. Kinda like Dragon Age 1. I was half expecting someone to leave my crew when i spared the thief. Or hoping that later on there are consequences for my actions. Or if you dont get them you just lost access to any mage class.
I actually ended up losing out on Gammel and his archer friend once I got to Elheim because I didn't spare Gammel thinking there would be consequences for it. Kind of bitter in a way
The only downside is that you don’t get the resources.
Sad, because gammel’s story sounds fake af.
THANK YOU for doing what I’m too much of a baby to do
Haha np
I find it really interesting how varied the optional gains for denying/executing some characters are. Some give rewards that're arguably just as good as a whole ass character, some give marginally arguable rewards, some give stuff that'll be lesser in the longrun, and some just... give you nothing.
looking forward to seeing how much this variation continues into the full game.
Same here! Full-game executions next...
@@GloriousGEO 🙏 thank you for doing what I'm either too invested to do or too "I forgot to make an extra save before beating the boss" to do.
@@GloriousGEO neo hardmode
@@GloriousGEO It would be great if you could let us know any other benefits of recruiting a character. For example Auch can find Lapis Pendants in ruins. So it would be nice to know if we are missing out on anything like that by refusing to recruit.
@@sdtrawick sure. I can do that
Kim Jong Alain, the Grorious Lord. He uses warp and rides the pristine steed.
All hail!
executing melisandre feels so wrong omg
Very. Game practically punishes you for doing it by giving no rewards.
Alain can be merciful, merciless or some where in the gray. I love it. I can't wait to try different runs and see how it all turns out.
its awesome
Second guy: You shared food with the enemy? DIE!
lmao
LOL josef doing all the dirty work. I was wondering how he would react to us being bloodthirsty 😅
"I'm proud of you, son"
@@GloriousGEOIn short. Regardless of our Choices he's Proud 🥲
Alain with a gun lmao love that reference
hehe
Anime fantasy characters with modern, real-life guns are always funny.
Monica's was the only one that wasn't so bad. She can still help your cause, just not on the battlefield.
Yup.
The only character not on my roster on my first play, should have let her join...
It seems like there's no moral meter in this game. It's a shame. The Ogre Battle games had this and it directly affected who joins you. The ending was affected too.
yeah, there aint nothing like that in the game.
been wanting to see these lol 😂
more to come! heh
No scissors for Ochlys. She fights with less hubris for the rest of the game.
lmao
Joseph doing all the dirty work for Alain
Josef staining his hands for us 🥹
Thanks for doing what I didn't have the stomach to do 😂
Haha np
Alain : Every monster was man first.
kino
I'm surprised Alain does not have a choice dialogue such as "Those who hath turned their cloaks hold no coin to bargain for mercy's breath." when asked to spare their men.
Haha right
Please save Auch, there's a special spot where you can get a lapis pendant if you have him in your party. It's a net gain.
Two spots actually, if there's ruins he'll explore them and grab a lapis pendant at each one on the south part of cornia and one in the north near the church up there.
Even divine shards are a grindey but infinite resource from mining. Only strong argument for executions is if you’re doing a really min/maxed challenge or speed run, or a deliberate “execute everyone” run.
Yup. Executions for speed-runs and lazy people (me)
Auch is hilarious when you do try to recruit him. “…Come again?”
Seeing people execute auch hurts because you just dont gain anything
How is your Alain red in certain scenes?
If these are all the results of those we deny of, then the hell with it. I'm saying yes to everything.
I feel ya
Yeah, the made refusal have no gain, while no consequences for letting anyone join
It’s like watching excelblem trying to unlock gaiden chapters
haha totally
If you turn the characters down where you don't execute them, can you still like talk to them in the map to recruit them or not anymore?
Cant recruit. They just become npcs on the map
Gawd damn, Melisandre hurt, looking forward to the full release, cause I ain't doing it
The fact that you get nothing for doing it too, is a real kicker.
Mandrin is the only one I have executed because I was thinking that Angel would be angry and not join team anymore If I don't kill the man. Anyone did same?
She gets mad when u dont. so its understandable
How did you make Alain Red? He looks better then his original appearance!
Watch this ua-cam.com/video/9YhIZkbNtcQ/v-deo.html
So which ones join your party if you spare them since i know auch does
All of them.
If you refuse sharon, did you just miss out the whole cemetary questline?
Yup. And ochlys, too
question, what these black iron weapons do exactly?
Just have high base damage and 5% crit. nothing else
@@GloriousGEO I see
Among these, Gammel is the only one I declined. I haven't met him again yet, but seeng as he's alive and I pardoned his buddy, maybe there's a second chance of him joining? Not too sure tho.
Nope
@@GloriousGEO Sad. Guess I'm not completing the character list then. I just really thought he was B.S.ing me with his sister story.
Having a ruthless day I take it? The red was a nice touch LOL!
They were simply... replaceable.
Is there actually any reason you shouldn't just recruit everyone you can?
Like in the SNES Ogre Battle game, recruiting some characters will close the door on recruiting other characters that may have a grudge against the people you have in your army. Alternatively, killing some people would drops some powerful or unique items that might actually be more useful than having an extra character.
Does Unicorn do anything similar to this?
You get the rewards shown in the video and thats it
@@GloriousGEO That's a bit of a shame. I've been doing a bit of research before buying, and it's quite a disappointment to learn there isn't any karma or alignment system, and that there is just one proper ending.
Will probably still play it as it looks and feels stunningly beautiful... But man I was hoping for an modern update of the whole PR side of staging a rebellion...
Is there any actual benefit to doing this?
Being lenient with everyone always works out in the end, so i never saw a reason to execute or refuse someone...
The rewards are shown in the video
Im reminded of A Song of Ice and Fire
"The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword."
Guess its worth playing the game multiple times
"Recruit everyone"
"Mercs only"
I wonder if mercs only might be slightly better due to choosing their growths
Mercs is way better from my experience. custom growths are everything
You can change a story unit's growths after a certain point and growths are fixed and will change retroactively if altered
Oh, good. Because I don't want to deal with this. I will say I felt cheated out of that thief one.
ye
Well we don't know if there might be a benefit later down the line for sparing the thieves
Mandrin...damn the lot of you.
Me : 15 Crystal is 15 Crystal
The only execution I would've done would probably be Gammel but Gammel and Mandrin joining you down the line is such a huge gain that it's tough to miss out on, particularly when you're trying to not use mercenaries.
True
@@GloriousGEO Gammel was the only one I turned down. I thought he'd go back to thieving no matter what I chose and I'd have to fight him again before truly recruiting him. I even let Mandrin go, but I was surprised I didn't get either of them after the Elheim encounter.
I unlived Mandrin because I thought you wouldn't be able to recruit Ochlys if you spared him.
Ochlys is based
my first Execution/subjucating choice was Gammel and I loved the Idea of sparing people can lead to some future consequences and vise versa when you Execute them (Mordon with the bridge quest). I was ready to kill him in Elhiem when the story is scripted to just letting him go. at that point I Realized that there are no consequences of recruiting psycho paths or executing good people.
A shame
Can you create All character if they accept too? thanks
You mean a recruit characters? I can do that.
Mandrin was the most deserved execution. (Probably the only deserved one, IMO.)
Ye
Is there anything that comes out of executions?
a lot. You can see the rewards right after the executions in the video.
@@GloriousGEO Sorry. Should have specified. Anything GOOD that comes out of these. Usually in other games the rewards aren't worth it.
@@nikoladedic6623all very good
Canonically i cannot see Alain executing Mordon in any way. He may have been an enemy, but he was a standup guy and even the people of the town pleads for him to be spared because of this.
Theres just no way He'd execute a Man like that, while just throwing a murderer in jail.
He's weird like that
Would never in a million years execute good girl Melisandre
Shes too good
This time Alain is making Josef proud
Very!
It bothers me how you can kill Auch of all people, but not Gammel
its messed up
Monica and Mandrin giving a total of 45 divine stones make VERY compelling case to not get them.
Specially Mandrin since he alone can get you Ochlys very early
agreed
What gameplay benefit is there in refusing help?
The rewards are shown in the video
@@GloriousGEO I meant narratively. Do you get storyline opportunities or different quest line branches?
Not really, in the early game the rewards you get from executing the black tallon members can somewhat help with your early game economy and makes one future side quest harder but long term it’s not worth it. The others are just straight up shooting yourself in the foot if you don’t recruit them. in fact not recruiting some characters locks you out of future side quests or recruiting other characters.
This is what they call the "painful decision"
Aye
@@GloriousGEO Refusing these recruitment usually grant some item likes if that's not for nothing, so it's fine enough if you don't want to build those unit or in generic only run.
Well unless if the item you get is also the the item that unit come with and also unless that unit name is Melisandre (choose to execute 2 units for nothing which does sound anti-climatic to me)
So which are worth executing or whos worth sparing?
Monica, Mandrin, Tatiana, Gammel, Mordon, Berenice, and Auch. All worth killing/refusing. But that's just my opinion.
If you like a character, uh, don't kill them. Sharon gives you a lucky coin if she joins you which is super helpful. The rest give no rewards at all.
It's difficult to say, since we don't know what the final outcome will be.
@@GloriousGEO you can get multiple lapiz with Auch so at the long run it doesn't worth it.
Man, those options feels more like a lose.
Monicas a net gain tho
Is Mordon going to town with a different village girl every night?
And thats why one of Mordons soldiers say another one my lord?
And why a village girl begs for his life in his stead?
giddity
Why would you obliterate Melisandre?
No rewards. No reason lol
Alain with red hair... Alain The Red.
Red man
People of Fevrith will miss the gentle ways of Zenoiran Empire.
Truly
Gammel had no remorse. He gets the axe.
Rip
The only one I've left out of the picture on my first playthrough was jeremy. Kind of came off as an irredeemable scumbag. Didn't feel bad about that at all.
That and the thief at the start. Thought handing him over was only right.
good ol jeremy
I would pay for a fully animated execution DLC.
that would go hard
They should have at least made these death scenes a bit similar to Valkyrie Profile Lenneth.
Great game
Where was Jeremy?
See the pinned message
@@GloriousGEO caught that just after I commented lol
The screen fade to black? No death animation? Boring...
Very
I really see zero benefits of executing or refusing anyone in this game so it was cool to see what happens.
Ye its neat
Had the game had consequences, I'd play the bad options first just so the good ending feels better when replaying it.
That would be a good idea. Too bad choices dont matter
Is there any benefit to keeping Mandrin alive?
if u want to recruit him
@@GloriousGEO Oh, I spared him and he did not recruit. Do you recruit him later?
@@sdtrawick later in elf region
@@GloriousGEOI just completed Elhiem including Mandrin's quest, but I did not recruit Mandrin. The bandits went off to find medicine. Did I do something wrong to miss Mandrin's recruitment?
@@sdtrawick You have to spare Gammel as well: the two are a package deal.
Now do it again but full game version
Will do
Noooooo how could you execute Melisandre 😭😭😭😭
Instant regret
Proof there is a genocide run like undertale
All of them were great except Milesandre. I liked her a bunch
Yeh rip
did you forget jeremy? where is that guy from the desert place, hes like one of the three dudes I think genuinely deserved to be executed in this game lol
This video was made before the game was fully released
赤い髪の少年は誰ですか？
主人公
@@GloriousGEO
そうなんですね！
日本の主人公は髪の色は青です
国によって色が違うとは思いませんでした
Is this really all of them or it's demo only ? Also does the story get better ? I just hope that Galerius is not the only main antagonist and that we will have some interesting plot twist.
demo only. Have to wait until release to post full-game stuff, of course.
@@GloriousGEO ok I was not sure, because I heard that the game leaked.
wtf? Executions? I was expecting a Fire Emblem story with your average good guy Lord.
Heh nope
@@GloriousGEO well damn. Ow I have to buy it… After Persona 3 Reload and Final Fantasy. Damn Dragons’s Dogma 2 is coming out too.
Doesn't Jeremy or whatever his name is have one?
Yup
Executing Melisandre hit me hard ~_~
It hurt
I see you hesitated for best girl Melisandre.
Haha, it hurt...
Should this game give me fire emble vibe?
As a friend your are replaceable, farewell.
a lil bit heh
Sharon refusal is prolly the MOST pointless. Girl has a ehole ass multi continent side quest with excellent rewards
Very!
0:56 - I didn’t know Alain is the prince of Ukraine!
Lmao
Picked all execute on my play through to threaten the kings life in battle deserves a good old execution if you are not being completely mind controlled if you ask me and excuses make me sick so got to get it done XD
haha nice
I killed Mandrin; he seemed sketchy, but some of the others live.
Ochlys approves of this message.
I do hope there is greater impact and dialogue for these choices. So far its just Alain coping and gaslighting himself everytime he decides to kill someone. Even in actual war without self-righteous princes becoming a pow was still a prevalent result of capture rather than execution.
nah. this aint that type of game. kill or recruit. thats it
@@GloriousGEO Well, at least it should affect the ending (I mean that's a RPG standard)since this is just the demo. Would be interesting if Alain can "convince" everyone into a neutral good ending.
What a milk toast game, not showing any of the executions, no option to just torture your enemies. Yuck.
It's pretty lame
no slavery choice?
this aint palworld lol
@@GloriousGEO I mean, its free workforce, could also trade prisoner of war for more goods if they are noble/important figure
I could definitely put melisandre to work ;D
English dub sounds dumb.
Sounds fine to me