They always killed of good characters, they got cheap quick viewer spikes out of doing it. Steve Owen was another that shouldn't have been killed off either but they did it in such a cop out way as well.
@@soundcreeps5371 - Billy was the subject of child abuse himself, it was later revealed, puts into context that many who are abused go on to abuse others too.
Just as Billy softened, Phil turned hard.(2000) I remember Billy’s 50th birthday when drunken Phil made a speech “50 years of failure”, lol! Billy was the 2000s answer to Norman Wisdom!
Quality video mate been waiting for a Jamie vs the square for a while now glad you put this together sad he died could've been a gold character in later years
Thanks mate. I completely agree, I feel like they were taking Jay down a similar route as Jamie a few years ago but they've kind of wasted him. I think Keanu's becoming a similar sort of character now though.
Yh agree, Jay has changed alot since then definitely not got that hot headed mentality now, they needed to have upcoming people similar to Phil's status to keep the show interesting killing Jamie and changing jays character probably wearn't the wisest choices I like Keanu but again I don't think he's got that personality to be face of the square
I felt sorry for jamies character bk then he always got picked on but he found away to find the courage to stick up for himself against billy etc shame his character died
Why did they kill Jamie off? He could have been a more of a interesting character for the future. Trying to learn the hard ways and getting harder and harder as he gets older
Billy lost his bottle given he’s a dad now but still back in the day proper little Mitchell. It be nice to see how Jamie would have grown up and the rest of the square develops
To be fair, Phil smacked Ben once because he caught him torturing his little sister with a boiling hot spoon. I think Ben got off lightly. He should never have hurt Jamie though.
Good character , good acting from Jack Ryder. Underated, shouldn't have killed him off. Billy was an arse , people forget that , and then we're sorry for him when he gets loads of stick later from the Mitchell's!
The thing is no matter much Billy is portrayed as this decent guy he still hasn't redeemed himself for his neglect of Jamie, it would be nice to see him go yo Jamies graveside and be remorseful.
Ikr! I remember when Phil and Dennis were winding each other up in the Arches and when Dennis brought up Joanne, Phil went "An old dog like her must've suited you" 😂
Why do they get rid of all the best characters? I know some get real big and famous fast, and start acting like Hollywood stars, but if they didn't kill them off, all they had to do was wait a few years till they realise they were nothing without EE, they could get them to come back.
I would love to have had Jamie back now ....returning the same time as billy's dad who Billy will not forgive ..but sadly they killed Jamie off ...Jamie could now be putting Billy through it,not forgiving him ,the same as what Billy is doing now to his dad . storyline missed there .
Mark would of beat the crap out of Jamie, Jamie was quite tough for his age but mark was still just a kid, mark never lost a fight on the show except to Phil
@@stemple11100 He was barely able to move Jamie away from Steve, Steve being someone Jamie sent flying with a punch, and you forget Mark had a bit of trouble with Martin. Steve Owen also went toe-to-toe with a Phil in his near-prime and did pretty damn good... as far as their first fight goes anyway. Let's get this out of the way, Jamie was always way, WAY tougher and harder then every other dude his age on the square, whether we're talking Robbie, Martin, Ashley, he was tougher then ALL of them. You forget Jamie grappled with Dan Sullivan, or when it took Mark along with two others just to MOVE Jamie. Mark got injured just trying to move Beppe away from Jack Robbins, also thats not true, Mark lost to Nick twice and backed down to him after Nick pushed him down. Also when Jamie was pissed at Steve Owen, he was trying to hold Jamie back and Jamie pushed him away like he was nothing. Also, the part about Mark never losing is false, he got into a fight with some drunk and got his ass kicked, he's hard but imo he's not one of the hardest. I have him barely above Max Branning who I think Jamie would win against.
@@Darskul Mark did beat Billy easier than Jamie did and did manage to hurt Phil which Jamie never did. Yes was the toughest in his age group for sure but I think Mark would beat him. PS Nick also beat Mark a few times.
If Martin is as hard as he is now after all those years can you imagine how hard Jamie would be? Bet you any amount of money he'd be Jack-level at this point. Also, who is older, Ronnie or Jamie?
Cool addition to your name mate! It's interesting because I've thought that myself. It's hard to tell, judging by Jack Ryder he doesn't look that much harder than he did before, and some characters peak quite young I.e. Jay. I reckon Martin would be tougher now but it could be close. Which Ronnie mate? Or do you mean Robbie?
@@H.K.5 If Jamie was still around and was consistent as a hardman (aka still the toughest out of his generation) do you think he'd be Sean Slater-level?
As soon as he started getting chubby and finished puberty he lost all his looks. People only fancied him when he had the jaw and smooth face. He gets a double chin towards the end of this (around when he rescues Peggy from mugging) and you see he isn't a good looking guy at all, bet that's why they wrote him out since he was no longer a heart throb.
It's amazing how Billy has mellowed over the years!
EE really dropped the ball with Jamie killing him off he brought something unique to eastenders should never have died
They always killed of good characters, they got cheap quick viewer spikes out of doing it. Steve Owen was another that shouldn't have been killed off either but they did it in such a cop out way as well.
Both excellent characters.
He asked to be killed off coz he was married to Kim marsh, I be he regrets that now
It be better if they just made him leave the square or forced him away but killing him waste of potential.
Amen.
I forgot Billy was an arse back in the day lol now I know why Phil treated Billy as he does
Jamie wasn’t scared to to say what he thought however big the other person was. He had bottle.
Yeah + so many bullied him. Gutted got 'killed off' etc, but props storylineS with Owen & Sullivan.
“He’s just a kid!”
But has no problem attacking Ben constantly. Nice one, Phil.
Ben.’s always been an insufferable prick. That’ll be why.
Billy treated Jamie way worse than Phil treated Ben.
Billy used to think he was a hard man back in the old days but he got pushed around by everyone but deep down he's a decent guy.
hes not a decent guy at all, he only wised up because he got roughed up eventually, he was an full on child abuser
@@soundcreeps5371 - Billy was the subject of child abuse himself, it was later revealed, puts into context that many who are abused go on to abuse others too.
Yup, I HATED Billy then saw the bit about him being abused, and then he began to change his ways wanting to stop the cycle ❤
Steve:“You tell him I’ll be right here”! That line is burned into my memory!
Just as Billy softened, Phil turned hard.(2000) I remember Billy’s 50th birthday when drunken Phil made a speech “50 years of failure”, lol! Billy was the 2000s answer to Norman Wisdom!
I like it when Jamie Mitchell teaches Billy Mitchell a lesson
Jamie was such a decent young chap, destroyed by a whole bunch of selfish, evil middle aged ass-holes!
Then run down by a drunken teenager, no luck at all.
Quality video mate been waiting for a Jamie vs the square for a while now glad you put this together sad he died could've been a gold character in later years
Thanks mate. I completely agree, I feel like they were taking Jay down a similar route as Jamie a few years ago but they've kind of wasted him. I think Keanu's becoming a similar sort of character now though.
Yh agree, Jay has changed alot since then definitely not got that hot headed mentality now, they needed to have upcoming people similar to Phil's status to keep the show interesting killing Jamie and changing jays character probably wearn't the wisest choices I like Keanu but again I don't think he's got that personality to be face of the square
Billy's character development tho
I was thinking that myself earlier
Same thing has happened with Stuart as well.
And Vincent, they turned them into Pussies.
He went from the massive arse on the square to like one of the sappiest but now nice people around thanks too honey
Always annoyed me that we never got to see Jamie give the mugger a kicking
Brilliant upload, Jamie vs the Square needed to be done
Thanks mate and yes I agree!
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thats the Billy who loves Lola , Love his character Devoplement
Well he chose to change after he made his peace with Jamie. He became a good man then.
@@dynahvelvixin.8615 yes he did, but Jay loved to make him feel less of himself
If Jamie was still alive, him and Martin would have a really interesting rivalry
Jamie looks so cute X 💞 X
@Khabib cherrypicking Weight bully Shut the fuck up you twat how does complimenting a character on a TV soap make her a paedophile??
@@UltimatelyEverything haha this is made me giggle! 😂😂😂😂
@@seanporter5867 I'm just stating the truth
@@UltimatelyEverything Lmfao good on you bro
Also MB might not have been born by the time this was on or if so they were a kid so I agree with ultimate fuck off and do one
Hunter looks like a modern Jamie 😂
*looked
Nah pmsl jamie way better looking
I felt sorry for jamies character bk then he always got picked on but he found away to find the courage to stick up for himself against billy etc shame his character died
Matthew Rose always sounded like he’d swallowed a load of chalk, such a softie but a much more pleasant guy than Phil or Billy tho.
Poor Jamie was just too good for this sinful Earth.
Brillaint video mate!!
She’s a nice girl
Martin; yeah if your into teletubbies LMFAOOO😂😂😂
Didn't martin knock her up? 🤣
Billy was so nasty to Jamie. Such a bully
Why did they kill Jamie off? He could have been a more of a interesting character for the future. Trying to learn the hard ways and getting harder and harder as he gets older
I wish Billy was this way against Trevor.
Trevor was harder than Billy, he roughed Billy up more than once, the only time Billy got him was when he hired a massive heavy to give him a kick-in.
Phil in 2002/2003 must have been pushing 25 stone 😂
He looked good when he was at his peak weight loss in 2010
3:31 Imagining Dennis Rickman Jr. and Jamie Mitchell against Ian Beale!
Yeah and that is and will be awesome 😊
I love jamie
Me too
Why is Jamie getting choked,slapped,kicked or punched in eastenders!! Good character but someone always abusing him
Blimey! That 'Gut (less) punch' from Billy to Jamie would be after the watershed nowadays.
Billy lost his bottle given he’s a dad now but still back in the day proper little Mitchell. It be nice to see how Jamie would have grown up and the rest of the square develops
I love Jamie
Funny how the roles have changed. Later Phil was the one beating up Jamie who was ‘just a kid’
Ah I remember the Sonia Martin Jamie thing
Hold up!! Phil had a go at Billy for attempting to beat up a 16 year old... yet he didn’t mind beating up his own son at that age
Phil smacked Ben about when he was like 11 never mind 16 lol, Phil also beat Jamie senseless more than once
To be fair, Phil smacked Ben once because he caught him torturing his little sister with a boiling hot spoon. I think Ben got off lightly. He should never have hurt Jamie though.
@@hollywark2885yeah but there was other times Phil unfairly attacked him
Good character , good acting from Jack Ryder. Underated, shouldn't have killed him off. Billy was an arse , people forget that , and then we're sorry for him when he gets loads of stick later from the Mitchell's!
The thing is no matter much Billy is portrayed as this decent guy he still hasn't redeemed himself for his neglect of Jamie, it would be nice to see him go yo Jamies graveside and be remorseful.
Him & Jamie made peace with all that. Billy visited him at his bedside when he was dying & tearfully admitted his wrongdoing & Jamie forgave him.
Went to the grave the other day!
It’s a shame Jamie never met other characters like Max Branning, Jack Branning, Sean Slater, Bradley, Tanya, Abi, Jay, Stacey etc.
Jamie Mitchell is badass
Shame he didn't live for longer, I reckon he'd be tougher than Ben now easily!
Thank you for that Jamie Mitchell is badass
Lol 0:06 when billy almost deserved to be called a mitchell
Jim clapping 😅
beautiful man! like jack from titanic
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Phil: "Cause I don't wanna see your ugly face again"
Naw, Phil. Your face is uglier.
Ikr! I remember when Phil and Dennis were winding each other up in the Arches and when Dennis brought up Joanne, Phil went "An old dog like her must've suited you" 😂
Why do they get rid of all the best characters? I know some get real big and famous fast, and start acting like Hollywood stars, but if they didn't kill them off, all they had to do was wait a few years till they realise they were nothing without EE, they could get them to come back.
This should be renamed Billy starts on Jamie loads of times for no reason
Jamie Mitchell is good
Matthew fucking gorgeous
1:33 *Yeah, yeah, and im a tooth fairy.* 😂😂😂
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Is it possible you could do Phil Mitchell vs Derek Branning
Eastenders Videos200 has already done that video. Here is the link to it ua-cam.com/video/czqZ-uSR5vI/v-deo.html
He really was treated terribly by everybody especially Phil and Billy and I’m glad now that they regret that
Poe faced Sonia 🤣
Back in the day when East Enders wasn’t about shoehorning woke story lines into the show.
Oh FFS shut up
Agreed. It went woke and turned to 💩 like everything else.
Now nobody watches it. Used to be great tho.
Big mistake killing of Jamie good character and actor
I would love to have had Jamie back now ....returning the same time as billy's dad who Billy will not forgive ..but sadly they killed Jamie off ...Jamie could now be putting Billy through it,not forgiving him ,the same as what Billy is doing now to his dad . storyline missed there .
Sonia’s pathetic,why did Jamie love her ????????
Phil's face is literally like a balloon with a face drawn on
It totally does and I love the username mate 👍
They were all losers compared to Jamie.
Aye, Jamie was proper, but Billy's scumbag days seem to be forgotten! Probs because most of the legend's are now goners/left/or 'moved on'.
Does Phil do the same to Ben later on
Sonia even treats him badly
She’s a nice girl
I think Jamie and Mark would've been a decent fight, he'd have done way better then Martin did.
Mark would of beat the crap out of Jamie, Jamie was quite tough for his age but mark was still just a kid, mark never lost a fight on the show except to Phil
@@stemple11100 He was barely able to move Jamie away from Steve, Steve being someone Jamie sent flying with a punch, and you forget Mark had a bit of trouble with Martin.
Steve Owen also went toe-to-toe with a Phil in his near-prime and did pretty damn good... as far as their first fight goes anyway. Let's get this out of the way, Jamie was always way, WAY tougher and harder then every other dude his age on the square, whether we're talking Robbie, Martin, Ashley, he was tougher then ALL of them.
You forget Jamie grappled with Dan Sullivan, or when it took Mark along with two others just to MOVE Jamie. Mark got injured just trying to move Beppe away from Jack Robbins, also thats not true, Mark lost to Nick twice and backed down to him after Nick pushed him down.
Also when Jamie was pissed at Steve Owen, he was trying to hold Jamie back and Jamie pushed him away like he was nothing.
Also, the part about Mark never losing is false, he got into a fight with some drunk and got his ass kicked, he's hard but imo he's not one of the hardest.
I have him barely above Max Branning who I think Jamie would win against.
@@stemple11100 Jamie would win
@@stemple11100 Nick beat Mark a few times too but yes Mark would deffo win.
@@Darskul Mark did beat Billy easier than Jamie did and did manage to hurt Phil which Jamie never did. Yes was the toughest in his age group for sure but I think Mark would beat him. PS Nick also beat Mark a few times.
who's Jamie's parents? I've never heard of him since I'm a 2007's kid.
I was Born in 2003
@Khabib cherrypicking Weight bully that makes her about 13 so she should actually. You arnt her family are you so you don't decide
Phil Mitchell was his dad.
@@wolfgang7812 no he wasn't you fool
You never saw them they died and he ended up living with Billy
Kat's face 19:58 🤣
Leonardo Dicaprio vs. The Square
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If Martin is as hard as he is now after all those years can you imagine how hard Jamie would be? Bet you any amount of money he'd be Jack-level at this point.
Also, who is older, Ronnie or Jamie?
Cool addition to your name mate! It's interesting because I've thought that myself. It's hard to tell, judging by Jack Ryder he doesn't look that much harder than he did before, and some characters peak quite young I.e. Jay. I reckon Martin would be tougher now but it could be close.
Which Ronnie mate? Or do you mean Robbie?
Jack is one of the worst 'hardmen' I've ever seen in Eastenders. Terrible actor too. Jamie as a hardman is even more laughable.
Jamie would be one of the toughest on the square if he was still around. I reckon he’d be around the same level as Mick but definitely not Jack.
@@H.K.5 If Jamie was still around and was consistent as a hardman (aka still the toughest out of his generation) do you think he'd be Sean Slater-level?
@@Darskul Not even close. I think he’d be slightly tougher than Martin.
Wow Billy was horrible back then
Jamie Mitchell beats up with Billy Mitchell because they are Family of Mitchell
Why did billy disliked Jamie so much?
Yh I don't think he disliked him, was just a power thing
@@RandomUploads-ch3bh Jamie used to sell drugs in Billy's house
@Gold Rose I'm sure he was quite a bad kid growing up but Billy just used it against him to bully him
@Gold Rose I think his dad died a few months before he debut on eastenders
@@DavieCooper-zz4kh Did not know that! 😞
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I don’t like that smug grin Kat makes after Sonia hits Jamie.
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old billy is so pathetic trying to act hard and throwing his wate around and bullying his nefeuw am glad billy has changed
Billy such a coward and a nasty bully picks on a kid jamie but won't stand up to phil big man not what a joke actually
They all treated jamie like crap 😒 even phil he was voice of reason and nobody likes that specially Mitchell's
You're right actually, Jamie is probably one of the most poorly treated characters in the show!
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Who is Jamie beating up there?
Why was Billy so horrible very different to what he is now.
As soon as he started getting chubby and finished puberty he lost all his looks. People only fancied him when he had the jaw and smooth face. He gets a double chin towards the end of this (around when he rescues Peggy from mugging) and you see he isn't a good looking guy at all, bet that's why they wrote him out since he was no longer a heart throb.
He decided to leave but they chose to kill him off. He might have put on weight he still good looking
Happens to us all eventually
He was better looking when he put on weight in my opinion.
That was a detailed breakdown
So, he was still good looking, and Jack Ryder has aged like fine wine.
Hated this character…always giving the big one when spud head was about😂..
Little rat basically
Brilliant comment! 😂😂😂😂
Louise had a supportive ankle
Uncle...? 😜
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