How to Fix Repair Clunky Keyboard Roland Fp30 Fp30x Digital Piano RHA-4
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Cluncky keyboard piano
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Roland Digital Piano
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It doesnt work dude ... I tried it a lot of times, but oroblem is actually deeper, I spent 4 month for research how to solve that problem and i finally did it! : D I though about grease and put it a lot everywhere, but clicking is not about grease .. problem actually solving very easily by small piece of duct tape in special place in aevery key. This little rubber "cup" where you put the grease, you have to remove it (its removable, don't be afrair you won't break anything) and put under it one or two layesr of small strip of duct tape
Thanks for your advise. I'll try next video if I can figure it out what you are saying... You have a point putting some slipiry dack tape on it... It makes a cushion so it will not tick sound
Can you show what part of the cup you put the duck tape. Or you put it on the cup?
@@MarkSomosoMusic yes! I just made some little photo instruction! =) photos.app.goo.gl/mtS2Mgvy2JL9qQQP6
@@donraccoon6316 thanks for the nice demo... I got it, but for me the problematic key is the black only. White is okay.... Maybe the black key I'll try to fix it.. Thanks for sharing
@@MarkSomosoMusic i had this problems on almost all keys, black and white😁 it started with black, but then spread to white too. I don't know why actually, maybe because rubber on black keys of this "cups" softer actually, have no Idea. But that works 😎
Lithium grease is not recommended for plastics, as it can deteriorate them. Better use silicon grease.
Yeh. If it's available use silicon grease.. Thanks for your positive response on the video ... Consider subscribing
Watch the pined comment someone share how he fix the clunky keys
What about the grease i use to my motorcycle
Thank you very much man!! I did it today after weeks that i was little bit afraid to do it by my self, its woking now like a charm! Thanks! (And anyone else that are planning to it don’t forget to use ONLY silicone grease!!)
Can i use the grease that i use to my motorcycle
Also by puting the grease into a medical syringe its easier to dose it.
Try this beside the other methods: an another source of key noise when the key is returning to its original position an the top hits the plastic house of the keyboard. Right there where you see the red felt. That felt is so thin that it cannot reduce the rubmle created by those hits. An easy method to eliminate this noise is to put thin (about 2mm thick and 2 cm wide) sponge stripes on the keys. Place the stripes (it should not be one piece for the whole length) so that when you assemble the piano the sponges should not be visible below the red felt. So a little bit (3-4mm) further away from the edge of the felt. No need to use any glue as the felt will squeeze well it after assembling. As the sponge is thin it does not affect the action, but when you release a key quickly you will not hear that rumble any more. (btw: I have created the sponge stripes by cutting a larger dark grey sponge by a big and wide sharp knife. This way the thickness can be kept quite even. The sponge came from the packaging of a kitchen tool or something like that.)
Btw: taking out the keys for greasing is much easier if you use a pen. Using the conical end of the pen is a very fast method to take out keys. Not all pens are (thin pens are not) convenient of course, the only thing to be considered to be thick enough for stretching enough (but not too much) the key ends. After finding the proper sized pen you can take out all keys in about 3 minutes.
Thanks for sharing your insights.. Appreciated your support on the video
@tpatai1976 "an another source of key noise when the key is returning to its original position and the top hits the plastic house of the keyboard."
This.
I have that on a brand new FP-30x. Slightly annoying... :) Not sure if I will try what you suggest and... void the warranty or return it.
quality ,,,,roland...mhuahahaha ...seriously...you pay so much for these things and one has to go thru this
Once I opened my fp10, there was barely any grease on the black keys. I love this action but because of the noise, I was beginning to look elsewhere. Now I'm keeping my roland and I'm glad I can do this myself, thank to you! This was a big help! Thank you and our Father in heaven bless you!
God bless my friend. I hope this video helped your Digital piano... Consider following my channel. Thanks
hey i just wanted to see how the grease option is going, and how it worked. currently im looking between the p45 and the fp10 and i really want to go with the fp10 except the sound is a big turn off. after a month how is it going?
And how did it go?
@@yonatanlgard1761 Honestly, I don't even grease it anymore and Im no longer bother by the noise. In fact, I don't even notice it anymore. I truly enjoy playing this instrument and I have to say it has a very satisfying feel.
Guys. don't forget to clean your hands first before putting back the keys...
I live in the United States, do you happen to know if there’s any other type of grease to use to fix the clucky noise?
If this happens to my FP-30, I’m going to just buy a new one.
Yah.... buy rd2000. Thanks for visiting my channel... Consider subscribing
Is that normal on the Roland FP30X? I have the same problem. Is that bad?
I like the funked up version of Isn't She Lovely 👏
Thanks bro amazing tutorial! My piano sometimes plays at full velocity( some keys) even when i hit them softly. Do you have any idea as to why that happens?
It happens to me also... You just need to clean the contact ruber. The ruber underneath the keys. Contac ruber just remove and try to use vacuuming to clean dusty area. Somtimes I saw small hair that cause the problem of velocity... Or maybe the contact ruber needs To be replaced.. Don't put your keys on a hot surface.. Or direct sunlight.. It also course the contact ruber to get broken..
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Mark and Marj Thank you so much man I really appreciate all your tips and vids! I’d be veryyyy thankful and grateful if you upload a vid about the velocity thing of roland one day. You definitely deserve more subscribers!
btw. it is easier to take out a key using a pen, by pushing its conical part carefully to the gap and meanwhile lfting the key by your finger
. . . and finally: do not ever think of greasing the top of the rubber sensors! I thought that it also adds some noise when you hit the key and put silicon grease there too, but silicon gets into reaction with the rubber and you will end up in uneven keyboard sensitivities. Then the only solution can be to replace the tripple sensor rubbers. . . .
There is no such thing as rubber sensor... Lol.... There's no re action in the ruber.. It works fine with me... Theirs is a repair photo of puting some duck tape on the rubber it helps reducing the noise also.
@@MarkSomosoMusic I have meant the rubber button of the tripple sensor: it should not be handled with silicone grease!
@@tpatai most of expensive silicon lubricants are safe for rubbers (elastomer's). but to be sure you better avoid applying any lubricant on rubbers, in best case scenario they would become pasty, it would result in applying pressure on the piano key would become noticeably different. or in worst case rubber would become stiff and would need to be replaced, which nowadays almost impossible, at least for moscow russia, where they ask almost third of the piano price even for pair of white and pink grease
send it back to Roland on warranty ! WTF.
They will send you brand new keyboard than that will be again and again. I prefer save money and buy better one.
Thanks for the video! Havent bought the Fp10 yet but i think if this is gonna happen, this fix will also work for the fp10? Because i think roland is the best digital piano in this price range besides it getting clunky after a while. but happy to see that its fixable. Have a great weekend!
Yes man. Its normal that you need to have maintenence man
@@MarkSomosoMusic So you would still recommend the Roland?
Yes... Depends on your budget... Roland is more durable compared with yamaha
I have a problem, my middle E makes a squeaky noise when I press it in. Happens 9/10 times and I only have my Yamaha P125 for 3 weeks. It really sucks and I can’t find any video with the same problem
I have that problem.. Open the board. Change the keyboard or switch with different octave... Watch my p125 opening tutorial
Mark and Marj One thing I discovered is when I blow in between the keys, the squeaky noise decreases. So I’m really not sure what the problem is.. I will check your video out. Thanks!
Although, my FP30X doesn't make any noise and this was sloppy and amaturish, I will keep it in mind for the future.
That is going to be one hell of a dust and dirt magnet! Why not try some of that WD40 Specialist dry lube silicon spray?
Every time you go to the gas station don’t forget to grease your piano after you come back home.
Lol
If I wanted to completely seprate the top front plastic once screws are off, would that be an easy and safe thing to do? Are there any conections to the board to be cautious about? I’m planning to paint the top so first need to remove it out of the rest of the keyboard. Thank you
There's a wire conection to the keyboard keybed.. Just carefuly remove the flexboard wire so you will not destroy the wire connection...
Has such great actions, but they're all faulty and eventually start making clicking noises.
isnt she lovely tralalalalala
without fail, every keyboard video I watch I can hardly hear past the unnecessary loud background music
Hello.
On my roland fp30x, tone c2 is much louder than the other tones. It has a dynamic response but is different from other tones.
I made reset. Installed new system program version 1.02 but no change.
Same repair process for clunky Yamaha PF1500?
Your video is helpfull and the comments section is has another solution. But, this problem is happend in most of digital piano? I'm not follow your adviced yet, let me hear if you have another best solution. Thanks
painful to watch
Its really painful my friend
Awesome !! Thank you very much !!
Your welcome... Thanks for watching my video.
Hello. Just wanna ask. Only black keys po? Thanks for taking heed....
Yes. But the quick fix is just a greas... You can check also my repairs without opening the board
ang tiyaga nyo sir mark; sakin takot ako buksan ang keybed; baka di ko maibalik, puro alikabok na loob, clunky na rin kasi 6 years old na roland fp4f ko eh
Good thanks for the video! BTW, my FP30 also have a speaker problem, only right side is working now...have you encountered any problem like that?Thanks again.
No... . But just get a technician Somtimes loose wire inside due to transporting of the instrument.... Try to conect the wire inside the amplifier
I was told by a Sales person in the shop that the FP10 and FP30X use the same PHA4 action but the FP30X has a felt strip where the cheaper FP10 doesn't, I've asked Roland this question and they have come back with an answer that they didn't know??
When you opened this keyboard was there a layer of felt where the keys hit the keybed?
Felt strip is just like a soft foam to prevent louder mechanical noise.. the felt was inside the hummer... by the way thay do have same action. but for me the fp10 is more noisy keybed ..
Anyone from the Philippines that can recommend a safe silicone lubricant? I’m worried that I’ll get the wrong one.
you can Buy on a Electric store in your place .. tell them your looking for Electronic grease.... you may use Vaseline also
hey hey. thank you very much for your videos! I have a question. I broke the usb port of my fp 30x. do you probably know if it is easy to change? what would have to be done? thank you and have a nice day!
if it broke.. call a computer technician friend who can patch / solder or replace a broken part..... it would be easy fix... dont worry. its repairable
My FP30's left speaker has stopped working, right one sounds perfect. Is it repairable at home or I should approach Roland's service center? Thank you.
Its repairable. Check the wire conection first.. Maybe a lost connection is causing the problem. If you know to check you can save so box... Or a regular technician can check the wire inside
@@MarkSomosoMusic I see, thank you Mark.
Did you fix it man?
Sir Why my roland E-09 the tone automatically running?
has a bad botton or dirty board. . open and clean it
Awesome i have the fp 80 but will be the same thankyou
An MRI is needed first as the keyboard might have arthritis
lol
Nice one Mark
Thanks sir.. . Hehehe. Kani akung Gina buhat Karon Aron MA search Nila sa yt...
Mine has begun clicking after just 6 hours of playing over the course of one day. Disappointing but thanks to your video I will be able to go in and fix it. Thank you.
The greas may help..
looks messy, i can bet that grease would at some point degrade plastic rubber on a sensor or make it stiff, better to clean those random lubricant stains out of the rubber part that is located on a sensor, very dangerous. and also, never mix 2 different lubricants, remove the old one, and apply a new one, consequences could be unpredictable
It fixed.... No problem on my keyboard over 3 years now... that grease has no harm....
Hello ! can you do it for a roland GP607 (mini grand piano) ? thanks
Yes you can put some grease on the ruber of the Gp607. But the action is different. More primium pha50 like roland Rd2000
I just received my new FP-30X and there are at least 6 keys with a very loud clicking noise. I will return it for a new one and if I have the same issue I will ask for a refund and buy a Yamaha or another brand. I wanted to open the box and enjoy playing, not thinking about grease, screws, loose parts, etc. What a shameful quality control from Roland, I'm very upset
watch my video on how to remove clicking noise without opening the board
check it on my chanel... fp30x is more durable than yamaha
@@MarkSomosoMusic I already tried and it did not work, or the noise spread to other keys. It's a shame that I have to do this kind of things with a new keyboard. Very upset with Roland
@@MarkSomosoMusic by the way all my issues are in the white keys
@Mark Somoso Music what do you mean by more durable than yamaha pls expand a
Fantastic tutorial! Thank you so much for this video ❤️
Thank you. How about the white keys?
The white key is not too much a problem... Black key is the noisy when you pull off..
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Just bought fp30 last june. So far, its not yet noisy. It is the closest digital piano in its price range that feels like an acoustic. I was worried when i saw your video. How many months after you bought your fp30 does the noise starts?
Yes if you're heavy handed like me... . It will make noise after several month.. .. My country is hot.. So it also affects the grease inside.. Just watch my ... Repair video it will help ua-cam.com/video/nVaTDzB7q7I/v-deo.html
@@iRiaph how is it now?
hi teacher mark its me sheabby
thanks for watching my videos
You shouldn’t HAVE to grease these keys like that! I am seeing many people online experiencing this problem with this model of digital piano. Seems to me this is a manufacturer’s defect! I think I’ll keep looking for a piano.
EDIT: I bought the Alesis Recital PRO. No issues so far, and I love it!
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My Alesis Prestige Artist thumps like mad. Light playing for one year.
My Alesis Recital thumps also. Woke my husband up in next room (despite headphones).@@tlp1085
can it also be done on the fp60x?
yes
Hello, it occurs to me that a small piece of thin foam could be glued to the top, instead of applying the grease, and this may work as a more permanent fix? Let me know what you think.
Thanks.
Yes nice idea... Yes it will help also. Just do both things It will lessened the mechanical noise when you release the black keys..
Iv done that on my old Yamaha p80 keyboard. I put foam on it so It will not make noise.
Thanks for giving some input. About my tutorial video... Your comments will help other fp30 or fp10 users
can i use car grease?
No. Get grease that is safe for plastic. Not bearing grease.
I'm returning my fp 30x exactly for this reason. Does someone now if this also happen in a fp 90x?
It happened in all digital piano.... On my experience. Roland is keybed is more durable compared with yamaha
@@MarkSomosoMusic thanks for the comment, but I haven’t seeing a video like this in a Yamaha p515 or a Kwai es920. I was thinking in getting a fp90x, but I don’t know anymore because apparently this problem also happens on that specific model. Between the three models I mentioned, which one will you choose and why? I just looking for a piano that could last a couple of years without these problems, but I guess that this is not possible :/
@@MarkSomosoMusic one other thing. I watched a video about keybed, but my issue is not key producing a sound when touching the bottom of the piano, but when the key goes up again and touches the top of the piano.
Thats the problem of Roland Key action the bounce back will have a clunky noise on the black key. My recommendation is to put more Grease on the plastic so when it bounce back it will not make noise..... Kawai is great.. Try kawai... In my experience i love the sound of kawai realy sounds like the shigiro concert grand. I compared it on the grand piano and the digital piano side by side specialy their stage piano
I have purchased Roland FP 60X just one month back and within two weeks the same problem got started on different keys and its now gradually but randomly spreading throughout the keyboard.
And this piano is how much?
800 usd. Depending on your tax. 700-900. O
Can you do one for roland fp10
Fp10 and fp30 has the same key action
Is the same in roland fp-10?
Same keybed action... So if you have a problem on clunky keys on fp10. Just open and follow steps
@@MarkSomosoMusic thanks man
You are very skillful Sir, thank you for sharing
Thanks for visiting my channel.....
very useful, i have the same problem with my new fp30x too.
Check my other video. You can fix it without opening...
I just got my third FP10, same shit for the 3rd time. Roland has become a joke. Great video!
It doesnt work dude ... I tried it a lot of times, but problem is actually deeper, I spent 4 month for research how to solve that problem and i finally did it! : D I though about grease and put it a lot everywhere, but clicking is not about grease .. problem actually solving very easily by small piece of duct tape in special place in aevery key. This little rubber "cup" where you put the grease, you have to remove it (its removable, don't be afrair you won't break anything) and put under it one or two layesr of small strip of duct tape
@@donraccoon6316 please make a video on it.
Hi mate, which keybed is better: Korg D1, Kawai Es110, Yamaha P125 or Roland FP10?.
@@ferdearmas8732 I think the Kawai. But it doesn't last either, from what I have read.
@@Pe6ek Thanks!, and what about Yamaha P515, Roland FP90 and Kawai ES8?, which is your favorite and why?...
Do they really feel like an acoustic piano(the keys)?
Yes... But not so responsive compared with kawai digital piano
What grease are you useing
I returned the Roland FP30 after 3 month and bought a Yamaha P-125.
With a Yamaha you will have better piano voice and a quality piano.
You mean you returned the roland fp30?
@@MarkSomosoMusic oooh yes, sorry.